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Re: The time has come
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2016, 09:58:00 PM »
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Today marks one week of quitting, each and every day. I'm keeping my eyes on this site, and I've begun counting up how much money I'm saving. A roll of skoal xtra was close to ten bucks, so I've saved about 14 bucks. That adds up. In my ten years of chewing, averaging the cost and how much I chewed, I've pissed away probably close to $5,000. And for what. Spending money to slowly kill yourself, that's real smart. I finally got a good sleep last night, so we'll see what other sneaky little tricks the nic bitch is gonna try on me now, I'm sure it will be something. Yesterday I had to fill my truck, so I just paid with my card at the pump. I had no feelings of caving at the time, just didn't feel like going in and looking at all those cans on the rack. Not yet. I don't wanna get careless about this. Two nights ago it was a dream, not that I used, but a withdrawal issue. I dreamed I was covered in hives from head to toe, on top of my head my hair was falling out from the hives, because I didn't have chew. (I used to actually get hives from my allergies) So I woke up, no hives, just a damn dream. Anyway, today I quit. This weekend I quit. Every day one day at a time.
Josh, what changed this weekend? This post should remind you of all the reasons why you knew better and yet you still threw it all away. This post is all the stuff you think others want to hear, but you weren't living it. There's a big difference and it's up to you to get over that hump. You choose to quit so that you don't have a choice whether to cave. Quit today instead of just not using today.
You're right. Something changed in me on Sunday. Maybe it was not going to work, or being busy all day like I was on Saturday, more idle time for the addiction to trick me. I made it a week and threw it away. I've now exchanged numbers with a handful of folks, and texted a few of them today while I was at work and couldn't put my nose on this site. I trashed the dip from last night, and I got smoky mountain fake dip today, adding to my forces against this addiction. I hate the fact that I caved yesterday. But I can't take it back, all I can do is learn and move forward.
Glad you're starting over. You've got a fantastic resource here to help you get quit.

It does need to be made clear that this resource is not unconditional. You post roll, you keep your promise, you get involved and you will find this place to be full of support and camaraderie. If you fail once, you come back humbly, own your failure, thoughtfully  fully examine it, learn from it and make a plan to avoid it happening again. You follow that plan and you have the chance to earn back some trust.

If you fail twice, that's it for you. I'll wish you luck, but no way in hell am I expending one iota of mental energy or emotional investment in your quit. It's not personal, I'm sure you're a nice person, but I'm not going to let a serial failure waste my time.

So you've taken a mulligan. Get your head right, dust off and quit for real. Don't romanticize that shit, don't cave to peer pressure. GET ANGRY! Next time someone shoves a can in your face, take it and launch that shit as far as you can.

You now have to do some work on your plan and then live it.
Dude toughen the fuck up! You are going to have a reason to cave everyday for the rest of your life. I have yet to hear one reason that makes sense. You breaking your promise to stay quit cheapens all of our promises. Quitting is a tough grind, so put your big boy pants on and make this quit for real.
Amen to that !!

Cmon man. You can do this but you have to be strong enough to make it past 10 days. I think you can do it. Get angry is right.

I got straightened out by a few vets for missing 2 of my first 6 days on roll call. Didn't cave, just didn't post.

Well it clicked for me, and there is no way I will cave after I give my promise that day. No way in hell.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2016, 09:18:00 PM »
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Today marks one week of quitting, each and every day. I'm keeping my eyes on this site, and I've begun counting up how much money I'm saving. A roll of skoal xtra was close to ten bucks, so I've saved about 14 bucks. That adds up. In my ten years of chewing, averaging the cost and how much I chewed, I've pissed away probably close to $5,000. And for what. Spending money to slowly kill yourself, that's real smart. I finally got a good sleep last night, so we'll see what other sneaky little tricks the nic bitch is gonna try on me now, I'm sure it will be something. Yesterday I had to fill my truck, so I just paid with my card at the pump. I had no feelings of caving at the time, just didn't feel like going in and looking at all those cans on the rack. Not yet. I don't wanna get careless about this. Two nights ago it was a dream, not that I used, but a withdrawal issue. I dreamed I was covered in hives from head to toe, on top of my head my hair was falling out from the hives, because I didn't have chew. (I used to actually get hives from my allergies) So I woke up, no hives, just a damn dream. Anyway, today I quit. This weekend I quit. Every day one day at a time.
Josh, what changed this weekend? This post should remind you of all the reasons why you knew better and yet you still threw it all away. This post is all the stuff you think others want to hear, but you weren't living it. There's a big difference and it's up to you to get over that hump. You choose to quit so that you don't have a choice whether to cave. Quit today instead of just not using today.
You're right. Something changed in me on Sunday. Maybe it was not going to work, or being busy all day like I was on Saturday, more idle time for the addiction to trick me. I made it a week and threw it away. I've now exchanged numbers with a handful of folks, and texted a few of them today while I was at work and couldn't put my nose on this site. I trashed the dip from last night, and I got smoky mountain fake dip today, adding to my forces against this addiction. I hate the fact that I caved yesterday. But I can't take it back, all I can do is learn and move forward.
Glad you're starting over. You've got a fantastic resource here to help you get quit.

It does need to be made clear that this resource is not unconditional. You post roll, you keep your promise, you get involved and you will find this place to be full of support and camaraderie. If you fail once, you come back humbly, own your failure, thoughtfully  fully examine it, learn from it and make a plan to avoid it happening again. You follow that plan and you have the chance to earn back some trust.

If you fail twice, that's it for you. I'll wish you luck, but no way in hell am I expending one iota of mental energy or emotional investment in your quit. It's not personal, I'm sure you're a nice person, but I'm not going to let a serial failure waste my time.

So you've taken a mulligan. Get your head right, dust off and quit for real. Don't romanticize that shit, don't cave to peer pressure. GET ANGRY! Next time someone shoves a can in your face, take it and launch that shit as far as you can.

You now have to do some work on your plan and then live it.
Dude toughen the fuck up! You are going to have a reason to cave everyday for the rest of your life. I have yet to hear one reason that makes sense. You breaking your promise to stay quit cheapens all of our promises. Quitting is a tough grind, so put your big boy pants on and make this quit for real.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2016, 06:44:00 PM »
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Today marks one week of quitting, each and every day. I'm keeping my eyes on this site, and I've begun counting up how much money I'm saving. A roll of skoal xtra was close to ten bucks, so I've saved about 14 bucks. That adds up. In my ten years of chewing, averaging the cost and how much I chewed, I've pissed away probably close to $5,000. And for what. Spending money to slowly kill yourself, that's real smart. I finally got a good sleep last night, so we'll see what other sneaky little tricks the nic bitch is gonna try on me now, I'm sure it will be something. Yesterday I had to fill my truck, so I just paid with my card at the pump. I had no feelings of caving at the time, just didn't feel like going in and looking at all those cans on the rack. Not yet. I don't wanna get careless about this. Two nights ago it was a dream, not that I used, but a withdrawal issue. I dreamed I was covered in hives from head to toe, on top of my head my hair was falling out from the hives, because I didn't have chew. (I used to actually get hives from my allergies) So I woke up, no hives, just a damn dream. Anyway, today I quit. This weekend I quit. Every day one day at a time.
Josh, what changed this weekend? This post should remind you of all the reasons why you knew better and yet you still threw it all away. This post is all the stuff you think others want to hear, but you weren't living it. There's a big difference and it's up to you to get over that hump. You choose to quit so that you don't have a choice whether to cave. Quit today instead of just not using today.
You're right. Something changed in me on Sunday. Maybe it was not going to work, or being busy all day like I was on Saturday, more idle time for the addiction to trick me. I made it a week and threw it away. I've now exchanged numbers with a handful of folks, and texted a few of them today while I was at work and couldn't put my nose on this site. I trashed the dip from last night, and I got smoky mountain fake dip today, adding to my forces against this addiction. I hate the fact that I caved yesterday. But I can't take it back, all I can do is learn and move forward.
Glad you're starting over. You've got a fantastic resource here to help you get quit.

It does need to be made clear that this resource is not unconditional. You post roll, you keep your promise, you get involved and you will find this place to be full of support and camaraderie. If you fail once, you come back humbly, own your failure, thoughtfully  fully examine it, learn from it and make a plan to avoid it happening again. You follow that plan and you have the chance to earn back some trust.

If you fail twice, that's it for you. I'll wish you luck, but no way in hell am I expending one iota of mental energy or emotional investment in your quit. It's not personal, I'm sure you're a nice person, but I'm not going to let a serial failure waste my time.

So you've taken a mulligan. Get your head right, dust off and quit for real. Don't romanticize that shit, don't cave to peer pressure. GET ANGRY! Next time someone shoves a can in your face, take it and launch that shit as far as you can.

You now have to do some work on your plan and then live it.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2016, 06:14:00 PM »
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Today marks one week of quitting, each and every day. I'm keeping my eyes on this site, and I've begun counting up how much money I'm saving. A roll of skoal xtra was close to ten bucks, so I've saved about 14 bucks. That adds up. In my ten years of chewing, averaging the cost and how much I chewed, I've pissed away probably close to $5,000. And for what. Spending money to slowly kill yourself, that's real smart. I finally got a good sleep last night, so we'll see what other sneaky little tricks the nic bitch is gonna try on me now, I'm sure it will be something. Yesterday I had to fill my truck, so I just paid with my card at the pump. I had no feelings of caving at the time, just didn't feel like going in and looking at all those cans on the rack. Not yet. I don't wanna get careless about this. Two nights ago it was a dream, not that I used, but a withdrawal issue. I dreamed I was covered in hives from head to toe, on top of my head my hair was falling out from the hives, because I didn't have chew. (I used to actually get hives from my allergies) So I woke up, no hives, just a damn dream. Anyway, today I quit. This weekend I quit. Every day one day at a time.
Josh, what changed this weekend? This post should remind you of all the reasons why you knew better and yet you still threw it all away. This post is all the stuff you think others want to hear, but you weren't living it. There's a big difference and it's up to you to get over that hump. You choose to quit so that you don't have a choice whether to cave. Quit today instead of just not using today.
You're right. Something changed in me on Sunday. Maybe it was not going to work, or being busy all day like I was on Saturday, more idle time for the addiction to trick me. I made it a week and threw it away. I've now exchanged numbers with a handful of folks, and texted a few of them today while I was at work and couldn't put my nose on this site. I trashed the dip from last night, and I got smoky mountain fake dip today, adding to my forces against this addiction. I hate the fact that I caved yesterday. But I can't take it back, all I can do is learn and move forward.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2016, 03:31:00 PM »
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Today marks one week of quitting, each and every day. I'm keeping my eyes on this site, and I've begun counting up how much money I'm saving. A roll of skoal xtra was close to ten bucks, so I've saved about 14 bucks. That adds up. In my ten years of chewing, averaging the cost and how much I chewed, I've pissed away probably close to $5,000. And for what. Spending money to slowly kill yourself, that's real smart. I finally got a good sleep last night, so we'll see what other sneaky little tricks the nic bitch is gonna try on me now, I'm sure it will be something. Yesterday I had to fill my truck, so I just paid with my card at the pump. I had no feelings of caving at the time, just didn't feel like going in and looking at all those cans on the rack. Not yet. I don't wanna get careless about this. Two nights ago it was a dream, not that I used, but a withdrawal issue. I dreamed I was covered in hives from head to toe, on top of my head my hair was falling out from the hives, because I didn't have chew. (I used to actually get hives from my allergies) So I woke up, no hives, just a damn dream. Anyway, today I quit. This weekend I quit. Every day one day at a time.
Josh, what changed this weekend? This post should remind you of all the reasons why you knew better and yet you still threw it all away. This post is all the stuff you think others want to hear, but you weren't living it. There's a big difference and it's up to you to get over that hump. You choose to quit so that you don't have a choice whether to cave. Quit today instead of just not using today.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2016, 11:52:00 AM »
Today marks one week of quitting, each and every day. I'm keeping my eyes on this site, and I've begun counting up how much money I'm saving. A roll of skoal xtra was close to ten bucks, so I've saved about 14 bucks. That adds up. In my ten years of chewing, averaging the cost and how much I chewed, I've pissed away probably close to $5,000. And for what. Spending money to slowly kill yourself, that's real smart. I finally got a good sleep last night, so we'll see what other sneaky little tricks the nic bitch is gonna try on me now, I'm sure it will be something. Yesterday I had to fill my truck, so I just paid with my card at the pump. I had no feelings of caving at the time, just didn't feel like going in and looking at all those cans on the rack. Not yet. I don't wanna get careless about this. Two nights ago it was a dream, not that I used, but a withdrawal issue. I dreamed I was covered in hives from head to toe, on top of my head my hair was falling out from the hives, because I didn't have chew. (I used to actually get hives from my allergies) So I woke up, no hives, just a damn dream. Anyway, today I quit. This weekend I quit. Every day one day at a time.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2016, 12:03:00 AM »
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Welp, mowed the lawn this evening. That was one of those things that went with chew like milk goes with cookies. So, I packed a big cheek full of... Sunflower seeds, hopped on the mower, and went to town. It was all good. I think that fresh cut grass might have smelled a little fresher this time. How long do sleep issues usually last? I'm getting sleep, but I wake up 2 or 3 times at night, roll around a little, then go back to sleep.
Be careful here Josh...we all went through that stage of quitting where our addiction starts whispering bullshit about our health....your stomach will feel better, your teeth will stop hurting, you'll be able to sleep better, if only you start dipping again. Please believe me when I tell you that is a siren song of crap. You are, and will be, fine.
The truth is, Make any major change to the way you live....stop eating meat, take large amounts of vitamins, cut out carbs, etc....any major change can have the same side effects you're having. Dipping, and nicotine abuse is what your body is used to...give it time and it will become used to living clean.
The rule of thumb I have seen time and again from quitters is 10 days. Usually it takes 10 days or less for a stage of withdrawal to run its course. It may be replaced by something else, but that too will probably last 10 days or less. I like what I've read so far. Keep it up.
Josh, if you really want to know, read my intro, from start to finish. That will take you 130 or so days into my quit. There is a lot of shite associated with quitting this shite. All of it is worth it.

You've got the wrong friggin fishing rod in your avatar. The reel should be on the end of the rod, packed with fly line and backing.

Spend time on this site, searching for answers. Most of them are here. There are links to the answers that lie elsewhere. Get involved with those who have quit within days of you. They are your brothers. They are going through the same thing, at the same time, as you.

Grab your sack, scream, and hang on as if your life depends on it. It does.
Good stuff in your intro. Gives a good perspective on the road ahead. And I like my live bait fishin- something else I'm looking forward to doin without thinking I need a pouch of chew stuffed in my lip the whole time

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2016, 12:01:00 AM »
Nice work today Josh87 with your quit. I am proud to be quit with you!

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2016, 11:56:00 PM »
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Welp, mowed the lawn this evening. That was one of those things that went with chew like milk goes with cookies. So, I packed a big cheek full of... Sunflower seeds, hopped on the mower, and went to town. It was all good. I think that fresh cut grass might have smelled a little fresher this time. How long do sleep issues usually last? I'm getting sleep, but I wake up 2 or 3 times at night, roll around a little, then go back to sleep.
Be careful here Josh...we all went through that stage of quitting where our addiction starts whispering bullshit about our health....your stomach will feel better, your teeth will stop hurting, you'll be able to sleep better, if only you start dipping again. Please believe me when I tell you that is a siren song of crap. You are, and will be, fine.
The truth is, Make any major change to the way you live....stop eating meat, take large amounts of vitamins, cut out carbs, etc....any major change can have the same side effects you're having. Dipping, and nicotine abuse is what your body is used to...give it time and it will become used to living clean.
The rule of thumb I have seen time and again from quitters is 10 days. Usually it takes 10 days or less for a stage of withdrawal to run its course. It may be replaced by something else, but that too will probably last 10 days or less. I like what I've read so far. Keep it up.
I'm doin my best here to be super careful, from everything I've read this is gonna be a long road. I know, that inside I'm an addict, and one sniff of a can, hell probably just holding a can, would start it all over again. So, one day at a time, I quit.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2016, 10:28:00 PM »
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Welp, mowed the lawn this evening. That was one of those things that went with chew like milk goes with cookies. So, I packed a big cheek full of... Sunflower seeds, hopped on the mower, and went to town. It was all good. I think that fresh cut grass might have smelled a little fresher this time. How long do sleep issues usually last? I'm getting sleep, but I wake up 2 or 3 times at night, roll around a little, then go back to sleep.
Be careful here Josh...we all went through that stage of quitting where our addiction starts whispering bullshit about our health....your stomach will feel better, your teeth will stop hurting, you'll be able to sleep better, if only you start dipping again. Please believe me when I tell you that is a siren song of crap. You are, and will be, fine.
The truth is, Make any major change to the way you live....stop eating meat, take large amounts of vitamins, cut out carbs, etc....any major change can have the same side effects you're having. Dipping, and nicotine abuse is what your body is used to...give it time and it will become used to living clean.
The rule of thumb I have seen time and again from quitters is 10 days. Usually it takes 10 days or less for a stage of withdrawal to run its course. It may be replaced by something else, but that too will probably last 10 days or less. I like what I've read so far. Keep it up.
Josh, if you really want to know, read my intro, from start to finish. That will take you 130 or so days into my quit. There is a lot of shite associated with quitting this shite. All of it is worth it.

You've got the wrong friggin fishing rod in your avatar. The reel should be on the end of the rod, packed with fly line and backing.

Spend time on this site, searching for answers. Most of them are here. There are links to the answers that lie elsewhere. Get involved with those who have quit within days of you. They are your brothers. They are going through the same thing, at the same time, as you.

Grab your sack, scream, and hang on as if your life depends on it. It does.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2016, 09:56:00 PM »
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Welp, mowed the lawn this evening. That was one of those things that went with chew like milk goes with cookies. So, I packed a big cheek full of... Sunflower seeds, hopped on the mower, and went to town. It was all good. I think that fresh cut grass might have smelled a little fresher this time. How long do sleep issues usually last? I'm getting sleep, but I wake up 2 or 3 times at night, roll around a little, then go back to sleep.
Be careful here Josh...we all went through that stage of quitting where our addiction starts whispering bullshit about our health....your stomach will feel better, your teeth will stop hurting, you'll be able to sleep better, if only you start dipping again. Please believe me when I tell you that is a siren song of crap. You are, and will be, fine.
The truth is, Make any major change to the way you live....stop eating meat, take large amounts of vitamins, cut out carbs, etc....any major change can have the same side effects you're having. Dipping, and nicotine abuse is what your body is used to...give it time and it will become used to living clean.
The rule of thumb I have seen time and again from quitters is 10 days. Usually it takes 10 days or less for a stage of withdrawal to run its course. It may be replaced by something else, but that too will probably last 10 days or less. I like what I've read so far. Keep it up.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2016, 09:20:00 PM »
Welp, mowed the lawn this evening. That was one of those things that went with chew like milk goes with cookies. So, I packed a big cheek full of... Sunflower seeds, hopped on the mower, and went to town. It was all good. I think that fresh cut grass might have smelled a little fresher this time. How long do sleep issues usually last? I'm getting sleep, but I wake up 2 or 3 times at night, roll around a little, then go back to sleep.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2016, 02:57:00 PM »
The hard days are behind you, now it's mind over matter. I quit with you today.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2016, 10:57:00 AM »
The GI tract isn't the only thing changing Josh. Put up with it all because you're becoming a better man for it. Remember how bad you feel in these first few days because it will motivate you when things start to get stale in a couple months. If you never forget how badly these first days suck, you'll remember why you never want to start over again.

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"today you dissided that shit wont control your life. and it wont. unless you let it." - drome
"Not thinking about nicotine is for people who've never used nicotine. We threw that option away with the first dip or drag on a cigarette. We are addicts, and cannot become un-addicted." - wildirish317
"You need to decide how much you really want to be quit." - pky1520
We are always at risk. And probably always will be. That is why I will never get "too quit" to post my +1. Every. Damn. Day. - geis2597

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Quit: 7/10/15, HOF: 10/17/15, 2nd Floor: 1/25/16, 3rd Floor: 5/4/16, 1 year: 7/10/16 4th Floor: 8/12/16, 5th Floor: 11/20/16, 6th Floor: 2/28/17, 7th Floor: 6/8/17, 2 years: 7/10/17, 8th Floor: 9/16/17, 9th Floor: 12/25/17, Comma: 4/4/18, 3 years: 7/10/18, 11th Floor: 7/13/18

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2016, 06:16:00 PM »
Nice job man the poison is out of your system at this point. Now its just mind games to stay quit. You and I are addicts we can't have just one more and quit tomorrow. You have a lot more bumps to come but just remember the last 3-4 days and how bad they sucked and how you don't ever want to feel that again