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[Larry Drummer]

There's a lot of light in the room. There's no escaping it.

Nicotine is not a crutch, it's a limp. Accountability is a crutch. Use it to get stronger.

Nicotine doesn't help you concentrate. Your quit mind is nimbler, more curious, more alert and more focused. Inability to concentrate is a side-effect of nicotine use - the fact that you most keenly experience this side-effect only when you quit should not deceive you.

Nicotine is not a drug, it is a toxin. This is what the tobacco companies mean when they deny that tobacco is "addictive". It doesn't make you want to use it, it keeps you from wanting to stop. It's only a collosal mind frack that makes you confuse "keep me from feeling worse" with "make me feel better" - a mind frack that you'll fight against for long after nicotine is out of your system.

You are sucking on insecticide, ammonia and carcinogens. The parts of your brain and body that it attacks make you feel sick, and you realize how sick it's making you only when you try to stop using it. It does not make you feel better to use it. It only dulls your realization of how much damage is being done.

My guess is that these things are also true of nicotine's contribution to your life as a student:

Nicotine has kept you awake when you needed sleep.

Nicotine has disrupted your healthy eating habits, which hurts your ability to think clearly.

Nicotine is gradually sapping your energy. You're exhausted when it's time for bed. You feel like crap when you wake up. You don't want to do much during the day.

You've emerged from your shell of self-delusion, turtle, and into the light. Slow and steady, walk this way.

"Collosal mind-frack"

Got to try to use that in a sentence sometime today!

Great to have you quit Turtle.

Excellent Pulitzer material Nine!

[jaygib]

Posted roll...thanks for keeping on me. It's what I needed to make the leap...Know the next three days will be nasty, but I'm ready...

Thanks for all the inspiration and support!

I was hoping you'd stick around a while turtle, glad to have you. The initial misery of the quit ain't easy, it ain't fun but it also ain't forever.

[ninereasons]

Posted roll...thanks for keeping on me. It's what I needed to make the leap...Know the next three days will be nasty, but I'm ready...

Thanks for all the inspiration and support!

No. Thank you!

Nothing's more refreshing than fresh quit.

[Turtle24]

Posted roll...thanks for keeping on me. It's what I needed to make the leap...Know the next three days will be nasty, but I'm ready...

Thanks for all the inspiration and support!

[Peterm821]

There's a lot of light in the room.  There's no escaping it. 

Nicotine is not a crutch, it's a limp.  Accountability is a crutch.  Use it to get stronger.

Nicotine doesn't help you concentrate.  Your quit mind is nimbler, more curious, more alert and more focused.  Inability to concentrate is a side-effect of nicotine use - the fact that you most keenly experience this side-effect only when you quit should not deceive you.

Nicotine is not a drug, it is a toxin.  This is what the tobacco companies mean when they deny that tobacco is "addictive".  It doesn't make you want to use it, it keeps you from wanting to stop. It's only a collosal mind frack that  makes you confuse "keep me from feeling worse" with "make me feel better" - a mind frack that you'll fight against for long after nicotine is out of your system.

You are sucking on insecticide, ammonia and carcinogens.  The parts of your brain and body that it attacks make you feel sick, and you realize how sick it's making you only when you try to stop using it.  It does not make you feel better to use it.  It only dulls your realization of how much damage is being done.

My guess is that these things are also true of nicotine's contribution to your life as a student:

Nicotine has kept you awake when you needed sleep.

Nicotine has disrupted your healthy eating habits, which hurts your ability to think clearly.

Nicotine is gradually sapping your energy.  You're exhausted when it's time for bed. You feel like crap when you wake up.  You don't want to do much during the day.

You've emerged from your shell of self-delusion, turtle, and into the light.  Slow and steady, walk this way.

Good Stuff 9. Turtle read it and weep. Winning.

[cubs204]

There's a lot of light in the room. There's no escaping it.

Nicotine is not a crutch, it's a limp. Accountability is a crutch. Use it to get stronger.

Nicotine doesn't help you concentrate. Your quit mind is nimbler, more curious, more alert and more focused. Inability to concentrate is a side-effect of nicotine use - the fact that you most keenly experience this side-effect only when you quit should not deceive you.

Nicotine is not a drug, it is a toxin. This is what the tobacco companies mean when they deny that tobacco is "addictive". It doesn't make you want to use it, it keeps you from wanting to stop. It's only a collosal mind frack that makes you confuse "keep me from feeling worse" with "make me feel better" - a mind frack that you'll fight against for long after nicotine is out of your system.

You are sucking on insecticide, ammonia and carcinogens. The parts of your brain and body that it attacks make you feel sick, and you realize how sick it's making you only when you try to stop using it. It does not make you feel better to use it. It only dulls your realization of how much damage is being done.

My guess is that these things are also true of nicotine's contribution to your life as a student:

Nicotine has kept you awake when you needed sleep.

Nicotine has disrupted your healthy eating habits, which hurts your ability to think clearly.

Nicotine is gradually sapping your energy. You're exhausted when it's time for bed. You feel like crap when you wake up. You don't want to do much during the day.

You've emerged from your shell of self-delusion, turtle, and into the light. Slow and steady, walk this way.

Nice work nine, Im stealing a portion of this for my signature line.


Turtle, the fucking excuses are pathetic. What are you waiting for, cancer?

[Smokeyg]

I don't know if this guy has the cajones. Just looking for a sounding board for his excuses.

If the next post isn't on roll call, good riddance....

[ninereasons]

There's a lot of light in the room. There's no escaping it.

Nicotine is not a crutch, it's a limp. Accountability is a crutch. Use it to get stronger.

Nicotine doesn't help you concentrate. Your quit mind is nimbler, more curious, more alert and more focused. Inability to concentrate is a side-effect of nicotine use - the fact that you most keenly experience this side-effect only when you quit should not deceive you.

Nicotine is not a drug, it is a toxin. This is what the tobacco companies mean when they deny that tobacco is "addictive". It doesn't make you want to use it, it keeps you from wanting to stop. It's only a collosal mind frack that makes you confuse "keep me from feeling worse" with "make me feel better" - a mind frack that you'll fight against for long after nicotine is out of your system.

You are sucking on insecticide, ammonia and carcinogens. The parts of your brain and body that it attacks make you feel sick, and you realize how sick it's making you only when you try to stop using it. It does not make you feel better to use it. It only dulls your realization of how much damage is being done.

My guess is that these things are also true of nicotine's contribution to your life as a student:

Nicotine has kept you awake when you needed sleep.

Nicotine has disrupted your healthy eating habits, which hurts your ability to think clearly.

Nicotine is gradually sapping your energy. You're exhausted when it's time for bed. You feel like crap when you wake up. You don't want to do much during the day.

You've emerged from your shell of self-delusion, turtle, and into the light. Slow and steady, walk this way.

[grimace8777]

Don't post roll soon post it today! Right now become accountable! You can and will do this, I used to think I had to have a dip to study, play video games, read a book but it's all just a crutch. Do it and do it now!

[Turtle24]

Thank you all for the welcoming support. It is inspiring. I think I'm building to be ready. Everything posted so far is true...and I know it's true...for godsakes, I'm in the healthcare field. How can I pretend to look out for others when I hypocrtically can't take care of myself. Greg5280, look for me to begin posting roll soon.

I must say, and I'm sure you've all experienced it, but even talking about quitting triggers some insatiable urge. Like the nic knows, and wants to get as much in as possible before I leave it...

[maineguy1313]

Hey Turtle-

In grad school here as well, to make matters worse I decided to quit right around the time I needed to hand in manuscripts. The first week was brutal, I couldn't focus on a damned thing. But, it is one week, you can catch up later. Plus one week now versus an early and unexpected death in...well you never know when...seems like a pretty good trade. After the first week it isn't so bad, I am back to normal work routines now (on day 34). Drink lots of water, chew lots of gum, and set small goals for yourself in the beginning for work. The marathon throwing in a dip and working for 8 hours without blinking isn't going to work, but you will get back in the groove. And I have been told my work has improved since I quit, go figure.

Good luck!

[jaygib]

I can't answer for your if it's the right time for you to quit turtle but looking back at my own college career the best time of performance for me was during the 2 years I didn't dip and during the times I did dip I had up and down performance but never close to those dip free times. I failed out of my dream university after transfering there, I'd rather sit in my car and have a dip on many days instead of going to class it seemed. And when I begin a new grad program in a couple weeks I'm glad I'll be doing it without having to fit studies in around my formerly rather busy schedule of dipping.

Shoot, truth is that it seemed kind of silly to invest time/effort into a degree program that would pave a better path for me in life when I was spending so much time and effort everyday in inviting cancer to come along and kill me, so I guess I was very half-assed in my academics for many years. I mean seriously who'd give a crap if I was eulogized for having a PhD or MBA if I was orphaning my minor children.

Easy for me to say but the risk of one bad sememster because you couldn't focus on your studies as well for 2 weeks for perhaps a lifetime of health is an easy choice. But then I put the can down 6 weeks ago and have a different perspective.

[KTM640]

I'm almost half way and it does get better. Don't wait. I had to start feeling like crap in order to make me quit every day. Don't have a health issue make you quit. The best time is now.

KTM640

[LaQuitter]

So, are you going to quit?

And I agree with the others....grad school is no excuse. Grad school or not, you will have to learn to live your life without nicotine.

[Souliman]

Turtle you will adjust. I know that feeling of apprehension with respect to school. You worry that the focus you have with a cancer plug in your mouth will be lost. Its a crutch. You're smart with and without that shit in your mouth. Difference is being smart and being smart and knowingly killing yourself daily.

You got to nut up bro. Its going to take a few days and its going to suck. You're routine is going to be messed up. Take it one day at a time. Fight it one day at a time. I dipped for 20+ years through undergrad and three graduate degrees. I'm 2/3 the way through a degree now and I chose to put my foot down and get my life back. It sucked but I think more clearly now than I did 6 months ago. And all those late nights staying up and leaning on nic to "keep me going" are 10x easier. You can do this.