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Re: Today
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2014, 11:28:00 PM »
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Thanks for the support, guys. Already feeling the love and am super pumped about being here right now. I've gotten more out of this group in two days than I did in 100 days with my group last summer. Looking forward to being a support for each of you. Fucking quitters. Mahalo.
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Re: Today
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2014, 04:50:00 PM »
Thanks for the support, guys. Already feeling the love and am super pumped about being here right now. I've gotten more out of this group in two days than I did in 100 days with my group last summer. Looking forward to being a support for each of you. Fucking quitters. Mahalo.

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Re: Today
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2014, 03:01:00 PM »
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Quote from: Alohabp
I joined killthecan.org a few days into my quit last summer. I hated the site immediately and found it difficult to post so I ended up at quitsmokeless.org, which wasn't any better in the end but that is where I ended up managing my quit under the name BP1. I posted roll almost everyday and made it to the Hall of Fame with my group. The mistake I made was quitting my quit at that point. I had no interest at all in dipping but I stopped posting immediately after reaching 100 days. I thought the 100 day Hall of Fame was the end and it isn't. Its merely a milestone to celebrate for one day and then get right back on your quit. Learning that is going to be the difference for me this time.

When I quit last summer, it was at gun point. My wife was taking out a life insurance policy on me and I had to test for all drugs. A positive for nicotine would send my monthly premium through the roof and ultimately cost thousands of dollars over the term of the policy. I knew I was going to quit "someday" but this was really the type of motivation I needed. I passed the test about 40 days into my quit and could have returned to the can that day if I wanted but decided to stay on board. I had endured too much to that point and it was getting easier. I wanted to see it through.

Fast forward to September, so maybe 120 days into my quit. I am a golf professional and went to the island of Oahu for a pretty heavy tournament (winner takes home $10k). Growing up in golf, chew was always part of it. When I needed a friend, that is where I would go. My friend in a can. I went to the store to load up on drinks and other stuff for my hotel for the week and bought a can. I remember two false starts....I was about to open it and didn't out of fear of losing my battle. I like to think I was curious about how much control I had over myself and that stuff at the time but addiction plays dirty tricks and can never be trusted. I was called back in and threw away several months of being free and clear of nicotine. The first couple of dips weren't enjoyable at all. I so wish I would've pitched the can after that first one and never looked back. It should have been easy but I forced myself essentially to chew again. I had that can for almost a month, just lurking in the workbench in my garage. Once a week maybe I would "treat" myself to a chew. Again, it just wasn't the same. I have no idea why I persevered into a full fledged dipper again after that but it happened and here I sit in day 2 of my quit....starting all over.

So hopefully that answers how and why. Here's what is different about my quit now:

1) It's on my terms. I'm not quitting to pass a drug test or to please my wife. I'm quitting for me because I know I have to and I know I can.

2) I know I can do it - The worst part of my quit last summer was the early days obviously and not knowing how much worse it was going to get. Not knowing for sure if I can do it. I don't have that doubt anymore. I simply know I can get through the worst of this and have learned my lesson about putting my guard down when it starts to get easy.

3) Support - I didn't really feel support from the group last time. It was there for me but I just didn't feel like I was part of it all of the way. And I certainly wasn't in a position to support anyone else. I was struggling way too much on my own to truly support someone else too I thought at the time. Not the case now. I know I'm going to do this without a shred of a doubt and want to be active in supporting my group in achieving our success together.

So there it is. I may have mentioned that I live in Hawaii which is 6 hours behind EST. I'm an early riser and will post roll first thing in the AM but I will likely be the last guy to post every day due to the time change.

BP
This may be the best answer to the three questions I have ever read. Don't ever forget a single word. Don't forget that ktc works. Don't ever stop posting. Support your brothers and sisters. Build a network that supports not only yourself but others as well.

Aloha brother!
big time wisdom here from a guy that helped me see my way this far. I like your answers too- refreshing to see the reality. I'm backing you. You know what to do. Go balls out as deep as you can man! Let "Aloha" mean all out! Look at my signature lines below-- and at Pinched's quote- that explains how it works. I'm glad to quit with you today. For me and for you.
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Re: Today
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2014, 02:56:00 PM »
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Quote from: Alohabp
I joined killthecan.org a few days into my quit last summer. I hated the site immediately and found it difficult to post so I ended up at quitsmokeless.org, which wasn't any better in the end but that is where I ended up managing my quit under the name BP1. I posted roll almost everyday and made it to the Hall of Fame with my group. The mistake I made was quitting my quit at that point. I had no interest at all in dipping but I stopped posting immediately after reaching 100 days. I thought the 100 day Hall of Fame was the end and it isn't. Its merely a milestone to celebrate for one day and then get right back on your quit. Learning that is going to be the difference for me this time.

When I quit last summer, it was at gun point. My wife was taking out a life insurance policy on me and I had to test for all drugs. A positive for nicotine would send my monthly premium through the roof and ultimately cost thousands of dollars over the term of the policy. I knew I was going to quit "someday" but this was really the type of motivation I needed. I passed the test about 40 days into my quit and could have returned to the can that day if I wanted but decided to stay on board. I had endured too much to that point and it was getting easier. I wanted to see it through.

Fast forward to September, so maybe 120 days into my quit. I am a golf professional and went to the island of Oahu for a pretty heavy tournament (winner takes home $10k). Growing up in golf, chew was always part of it. When I needed a friend, that is where I would go. My friend in a can. I went to the store to load up on drinks and other stuff for my hotel for the week and bought a can. I remember two false starts....I was about to open it and didn't out of fear of losing my battle. I like to think I was curious about how much control I had over myself and that stuff at the time but addiction plays dirty tricks and can never be trusted. I was called back in and threw away several months of being free and clear of nicotine. The first couple of dips weren't enjoyable at all. I so wish I would've pitched the can after that first one and never looked back. It should have been easy but I forced myself essentially to chew again. I had that can for almost a month, just lurking in the workbench in my garage. Once a week maybe I would "treat" myself to a chew. Again, it just wasn't the same. I have no idea why I persevered into a full fledged dipper again after that but it happened and here I sit in day 2 of my quit....starting all over.

So hopefully that answers how and why. Here's what is different about my quit now:

1) It's on my terms. I'm not quitting to pass a drug test or to please my wife. I'm quitting for me because I know I have to and I know I can.

2) I know I can do it - The worst part of my quit last summer was the early days obviously and not knowing how much worse it was going to get. Not knowing for sure if I can do it. I don't have that doubt anymore. I simply know I can get through the worst of this and have learned my lesson about putting my guard down when it starts to get easy.

3) Support - I didn't really feel support from the group last time. It was there for me but I just didn't feel like I was part of it all of the way. And I certainly wasn't in a position to support anyone else. I was struggling way too much on my own to truly support someone else too I thought at the time. Not the case now. I know I'm going to do this without a shred of a doubt and want to be active in supporting my group in achieving our success together.

So there it is. I may have mentioned that I live in Hawaii which is 6 hours behind EST. I'm an early riser and will post roll first thing in the AM but I will likely be the last guy to post every day due to the time change.

BP
This may be the best answer to the three questions I have ever read. Don't ever forget a single word. Don't forget that ktc works. Don't ever stop posting. Support your brothers and sisters. Build a network that supports not only yourself but others as well.

Aloha brother!
big time wisdom here from a guy that helped me see my way this far. I like your answers too- refreshing to see the reality. I'm backing you. You know what to do. Go balls out as deep as you can man! Let "Aloha" mean all out! Look at my signature lines below-- and at Pinched's quote- that explains how it works. I'm glad to quit with you today. For me and for you.
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Re: Today
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2014, 02:44:00 PM »
Quote from: Alohabp
I joined killthecan.org a few days into my quit last summer. I hated the site immediately and found it difficult to post so I ended up at quitsmokeless.org, which wasn't any better in the end but that is where I ended up managing my quit under the name BP1. I posted roll almost everyday and made it to the Hall of Fame with my group. The mistake I made was quitting my quit at that point. I had no interest at all in dipping but I stopped posting immediately after reaching 100 days. I thought the 100 day Hall of Fame was the end and it isn't. Its merely a milestone to celebrate for one day and then get right back on your quit. Learning that is going to be the difference for me this time.

When I quit last summer, it was at gun point. My wife was taking out a life insurance policy on me and I had to test for all drugs. A positive for nicotine would send my monthly premium through the roof and ultimately cost thousands of dollars over the term of the policy. I knew I was going to quit "someday" but this was really the type of motivation I needed. I passed the test about 40 days into my quit and could have returned to the can that day if I wanted but decided to stay on board. I had endured too much to that point and it was getting easier. I wanted to see it through.

Fast forward to September, so maybe 120 days into my quit. I am a golf professional and went to the island of Oahu for a pretty heavy tournament (winner takes home $10k). Growing up in golf, chew was always part of it. When I needed a friend, that is where I would go. My friend in a can. I went to the store to load up on drinks and other stuff for my hotel for the week and bought a can. I remember two false starts....I was about to open it and didn't out of fear of losing my battle. I like to think I was curious about how much control I had over myself and that stuff at the time but addiction plays dirty tricks and can never be trusted. I was called back in and threw away several months of being free and clear of nicotine. The first couple of dips weren't enjoyable at all. I so wish I would've pitched the can after that first one and never looked back. It should have been easy but I forced myself essentially to chew again. I had that can for almost a month, just lurking in the workbench in my garage. Once a week maybe I would "treat" myself to a chew. Again, it just wasn't the same. I have no idea why I persevered into a full fledged dipper again after that but it happened and here I sit in day 2 of my quit....starting all over.

So hopefully that answers how and why. Here's what is different about my quit now:

1) It's on my terms. I'm not quitting to pass a drug test or to please my wife. I'm quitting for me because I know I have to and I know I can.

2) I know I can do it - The worst part of my quit last summer was the early days obviously and not knowing how much worse it was going to get. Not knowing for sure if I can do it. I don't have that doubt anymore. I simply know I can get through the worst of this and have learned my lesson about putting my guard down when it starts to get easy.

3) Support - I didn't really feel support from the group last time. It was there for me but I just didn't feel like I was part of it all of the way. And I certainly wasn't in a position to support anyone else. I was struggling way too much on my own to truly support someone else too I thought at the time. Not the case now. I know I'm going to do this without a shred of a doubt and want to be active in supporting my group in achieving our success together.

So there it is. I may have mentioned that I live in Hawaii which is 6 hours behind EST. I'm an early riser and will post roll first thing in the AM but I will likely be the last guy to post every day due to the time change.

BP
POW. let this be a lesson to other on the fence about being active in their group. I quit with you today man.
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Re: Today
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2014, 02:27:00 PM »
Quote from: Alohabp
I joined killthecan.org a few days into my quit last summer. I hated the site immediately and found it difficult to post so I ended up at quitsmokeless.org, which wasn't any better in the end but that is where I ended up managing my quit under the name BP1. I posted roll almost everyday and made it to the Hall of Fame with my group. The mistake I made was quitting my quit at that point. I had no interest at all in dipping but I stopped posting immediately after reaching 100 days. I thought the 100 day Hall of Fame was the end and it isn't. Its merely a milestone to celebrate for one day and then get right back on your quit. Learning that is going to be the difference for me this time.

When I quit last summer, it was at gun point. My wife was taking out a life insurance policy on me and I had to test for all drugs. A positive for nicotine would send my monthly premium through the roof and ultimately cost thousands of dollars over the term of the policy. I knew I was going to quit "someday" but this was really the type of motivation I needed. I passed the test about 40 days into my quit and could have returned to the can that day if I wanted but decided to stay on board. I had endured too much to that point and it was getting easier. I wanted to see it through.

Fast forward to September, so maybe 120 days into my quit. I am a golf professional and went to the island of Oahu for a pretty heavy tournament (winner takes home $10k). Growing up in golf, chew was always part of it. When I needed a friend, that is where I would go. My friend in a can. I went to the store to load up on drinks and other stuff for my hotel for the week and bought a can. I remember two false starts....I was about to open it and didn't out of fear of losing my battle. I like to think I was curious about how much control I had over myself and that stuff at the time but addiction plays dirty tricks and can never be trusted. I was called back in and threw away several months of being free and clear of nicotine. The first couple of dips weren't enjoyable at all. I so wish I would've pitched the can after that first one and never looked back. It should have been easy but I forced myself essentially to chew again. I had that can for almost a month, just lurking in the workbench in my garage. Once a week maybe I would "treat" myself to a chew. Again, it just wasn't the same. I have no idea why I persevered into a full fledged dipper again after that but it happened and here I sit in day 2 of my quit....starting all over.

So hopefully that answers how and why. Here's what is different about my quit now:

1) It's on my terms. I'm not quitting to pass a drug test or to please my wife. I'm quitting for me because I know I have to and I know I can.

2) I know I can do it - The worst part of my quit last summer was the early days obviously and not knowing how much worse it was going to get. Not knowing for sure if I can do it. I don't have that doubt anymore. I simply know I can get through the worst of this and have learned my lesson about putting my guard down when it starts to get easy.

3) Support - I didn't really feel support from the group last time. It was there for me but I just didn't feel like I was part of it all of the way. And I certainly wasn't in a position to support anyone else. I was struggling way too much on my own to truly support someone else too I thought at the time. Not the case now. I know I'm going to do this without a shred of a doubt and want to be active in supporting my group in achieving our success together.

So there it is. I may have mentioned that I live in Hawaii which is 6 hours behind EST. I'm an early riser and will post roll first thing in the AM but I will likely be the last guy to post every day due to the time change.

BP
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Re: Today
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2014, 01:51:00 PM »
Quote from: Alohabp
I joined killthecan.org a few days into my quit last summer. I hated the site immediately and found it difficult to post so I ended up at quitsmokeless.org, which wasn't any better in the end but that is where I ended up managing my quit under the name BP1. I posted roll almost everyday and made it to the Hall of Fame with my group. The mistake I made was quitting my quit at that point. I had no interest at all in dipping but I stopped posting immediately after reaching 100 days. I thought the 100 day Hall of Fame was the end and it isn't. Its merely a milestone to celebrate for one day and then get right back on your quit. Learning that is going to be the difference for me this time.

When I quit last summer, it was at gun point. My wife was taking out a life insurance policy on me and I had to test for all drugs. A positive for nicotine would send my monthly premium through the roof and ultimately cost thousands of dollars over the term of the policy. I knew I was going to quit "someday" but this was really the type of motivation I needed. I passed the test about 40 days into my quit and could have returned to the can that day if I wanted but decided to stay on board. I had endured too much to that point and it was getting easier. I wanted to see it through.

Fast forward to September, so maybe 120 days into my quit. I am a golf professional and went to the island of Oahu for a pretty heavy tournament (winner takes home $10k). Growing up in golf, chew was always part of it. When I needed a friend, that is where I would go. My friend in a can. I went to the store to load up on drinks and other stuff for my hotel for the week and bought a can. I remember two false starts....I was about to open it and didn't out of fear of losing my battle. I like to think I was curious about how much control I had over myself and that stuff at the time but addiction plays dirty tricks and can never be trusted. I was called back in and threw away several months of being free and clear of nicotine. The first couple of dips weren't enjoyable at all. I so wish I would've pitched the can after that first one and never looked back. It should have been easy but I forced myself essentially to chew again. I had that can for almost a month, just lurking in the workbench in my garage. Once a week maybe I would "treat" myself to a chew. Again, it just wasn't the same. I have no idea why I persevered into a full fledged dipper again after that but it happened and here I sit in day 2 of my quit....starting all over.

So hopefully that answers how and why. Here's what is different about my quit now:

1) It's on my terms. I'm not quitting to pass a drug test or to please my wife. I'm quitting for me because I know I have to and I know I can.

2) I know I can do it - The worst part of my quit last summer was the early days obviously and not knowing how much worse it was going to get. Not knowing for sure if I can do it. I don't have that doubt anymore. I simply know I can get through the worst of this and have learned my lesson about putting my guard down when it starts to get easy.

3) Support - I didn't really feel support from the group last time. It was there for me but I just didn't feel like I was part of it all of the way. And I certainly wasn't in a position to support anyone else. I was struggling way too much on my own to truly support someone else too I thought at the time. Not the case now. I know I'm going to do this without a shred of a doubt and want to be active in supporting my group in achieving our success together.

So there it is. I may have mentioned that I live in Hawaii which is 6 hours behind EST. I'm an early riser and will post roll first thing in the AM but I will likely be the last guy to post every day due to the time change.

BP
This may be the best answer to the three questions I have ever read. Don't ever forget a single word. Don't forget that ktc works. Don't ever stop posting. Support your brothers and sisters. Build a network that supports not only yourself but others as well.

Aloha brother!

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Re: Today
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2014, 01:30:00 PM »
I joined killthecan.org a few days into my quit last summer. I hated the site immediately and found it difficult to post so I ended up at quitsmokeless.org, which wasn't any better in the end but that is where I ended up managing my quit under the name BP1. I posted roll almost everyday and made it to the Hall of Fame with my group. The mistake I made was quitting my quit at that point. I had no interest at all in dipping but I stopped posting immediately after reaching 100 days. I thought the 100 day Hall of Fame was the end and it isn't. Its merely a milestone to celebrate for one day and then get right back on your quit. Learning that is going to be the difference for me this time.

When I quit last summer, it was at gun point. My wife was taking out a life insurance policy on me and I had to test for all drugs. A positive for nicotine would send my monthly premium through the roof and ultimately cost thousands of dollars over the term of the policy. I knew I was going to quit "someday" but this was really the type of motivation I needed. I passed the test about 40 days into my quit and could have returned to the can that day if I wanted but decided to stay on board. I had endured too much to that point and it was getting easier. I wanted to see it through.

Fast forward to September, so maybe 120 days into my quit. I am a golf professional and went to the island of Oahu for a pretty heavy tournament (winner takes home $10k). Growing up in golf, chew was always part of it. When I needed a friend, that is where I would go. My friend in a can. I went to the store to load up on drinks and other stuff for my hotel for the week and bought a can. I remember two false starts....I was about to open it and didn't out of fear of losing my battle. I like to think I was curious about how much control I had over myself and that stuff at the time but addiction plays dirty tricks and can never be trusted. I was called back in and threw away several months of being free and clear of nicotine. The first couple of dips weren't enjoyable at all. I so wish I would've pitched the can after that first one and never looked back. It should have been easy but I forced myself essentially to chew again. I had that can for almost a month, just lurking in the workbench in my garage. Once a week maybe I would "treat" myself to a chew. Again, it just wasn't the same. I have no idea why I persevered into a full fledged dipper again after that but it happened and here I sit in day 2 of my quit....starting all over.

So hopefully that answers how and why. Here's what is different about my quit now:

1) It's on my terms. I'm not quitting to pass a drug test or to please my wife. I'm quitting for me because I know I have to and I know I can.

2) I know I can do it - The worst part of my quit last summer was the early days obviously and not knowing how much worse it was going to get. Not knowing for sure if I can do it. I don't have that doubt anymore. I simply know I can get through the worst of this and have learned my lesson about putting my guard down when it starts to get easy.

3) Support - I didn't really feel support from the group last time. It was there for me but I just didn't feel like I was part of it all of the way. And I certainly wasn't in a position to support anyone else. I was struggling way too much on my own to truly support someone else too I thought at the time. Not the case now. I know I'm going to do this without a shred of a doubt and want to be active in supporting my group in achieving our success together.

So there it is. I may have mentioned that I live in Hawaii which is 6 hours behind EST. I'm an early riser and will post roll first thing in the AM but I will likely be the last guy to post every day due to the time change.

BP

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Re: Today
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2014, 11:46:00 AM »
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Quote from: Done4Me
Quote from: Thumblewort
You were part of the August 2013 group before. You'll need to explain to that group, and your new group why you caved:

1. What Happened?

2. Why did it Happen?

3. What will you do differently again?
True dat. Looks like you only posted once and it was a day 8 in early May 2013. You didn't come back until today. What's gonna be different this time? How do you expect us to support you in January when you lied last year albeit for a day.

This site is built on honor, integrity, accountability and brotherhood, You need to answer the questions BP. Be honest in your answers and insightful. Dig deep
You can certainly join a group again, and this time succeed, but you'll need to answer those questions first friend. I want you to succeed, so please reply.
quit for good this time one day at a time and learn from you mistakes.

but first you must realize what they are. to figure that out the questions need to be answered. we got your back, we just need to know your in this
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so what my quit dates in September and im in the Ocotber HOF group? that makes me a SuliTan
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Re: Today
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2014, 04:40:00 PM »
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Quote from: Thumblewort
You were part of the August 2013 group before. You'll need to explain to that group, and your new group why you caved:

1. What Happened?

2. Why did it Happen?

3. What will you do differently again?
True dat. Looks like you only posted once and it was a day 8 in early May 2013. You didn't come back until today. What's gonna be different this time? How do you expect us to support you in January when you lied last year albeit for a day.

This site is built on honor, integrity, accountability and brotherhood, You need to answer the questions BP. Be honest in your answers and insightful. Dig deep
You can certainly join a group again, and this time succeed, but you'll need to answer those questions first friend. I want you to succeed, so please reply.

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Re: Today
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2014, 04:23:00 PM »
Quote from: Thumblewort
You were part of the August 2013 group before. You'll need to explain to that group, and your new group why you caved:

1. What Happened?

2. Why did it Happen?

3. What will you do differently again?
True dat. Looks like you only posted once and it was a day 8 in early May 2013. You didn't come back until today. What's gonna be different this time? How do you expect us to support you in January when you lied last year albeit for a day.

This site is built on honor, integrity, accountability and brotherhood, You need to answer the questions BP. Be honest in your answers and insightful. Dig deep

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Re: Today
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2014, 01:32:00 PM »
You were part of the August 2013 group before. You'll need to explain to that group, and your new group why youcaved:

1. What Happened?

2. Why did it Happen?

3. What will you do differently again?
Some of my fondest and clearest memories are peeing in places that aren't bathrooms.

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Today
« on: October 16, 2014, 01:30:00 PM »
Aloha Gang,

I'm here to quit. I've chewed Copenhagen since I was 16 years old and turn 40 in two weeks. Looking into my two year old son's eyes I realized that I am on a path to shorten my time with him. Thsi si serious. Glad to be here with y'all.

BP