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Re: 21 days quit - 2nd time!
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2017, 06:40:00 PM »
Larry,

Just read your intro....like reading mine all over again, to include the life insurance part. Man, I wish KTC had been around back in 94. instead of 3 years quit, I'd have like 23!!! Glad I stumbled across your intro on the main KTC page.....made me look for you in the forums. Quit with you today.

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Re: 21 days quit - 2nd time!
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2017, 12:28:00 PM »
I’ve struggled over the years with a nicotine addiction. My mom smoked. My dad chewed loose leaf. Most of both sides of my family also used some form of tobacco - some smoked it, chewed it, dipped it, and some even snorted it. I guess there was a greater chance I would than there was I wouldn’t, and when I was sixteen I put a dip of Skoal in my lip and didn’t look back. I graduated to Copenhagen, then at some point I moved to long cut Skoal so I could chew it. In 2000, I got tired of it and instead of taking a dip I threw the can out the window and didn’t touch it again for about 10 years, when at a time of great personal and professional upheaval I picked up a can and remembered the soothing comfort it provided (or I thought it provided) and in no time I had let the addiction back in to my life. Over the next 7 years or so I’ve tried to stop several times, but never made it past a few days. Even when I was diagnosed with prostate cancer I kept dipping right up to the morning of surgery. I went a week without it after the surgery, but the moment I could drive again on my own..... yep, you guessed it. I was buying a “tin”. Ugh.

Fast forward to 69 days ago. May 1st. No particular reason - no sores, no reason to think I might have a problem. I just simply decided again IÂ’d had enough and havenÂ’t touched it since. The brain is a powerful thing - it can make you do all kinds of silly things, but it can make you overcome huge things too if it really wants to. This time I wanted to. The first 3 days sucked hard, but it was manageable with lots of water and exercise. At that point the nicotine was out of my system and the mind games began. I just got up every day and promised myself I wasnÂ’t going to do it today - and I would worry about tomorrow when it got here. (If youÂ’ve overcome a nicotine addiction you know EXACTLY what IÂ’m talking about.) Slowly, with time the daily fog began lifting and it got easier each day. I still have to make that daily promise, but keeping that promise grows easier with each passing day.

I’ve learned some things this time though. The biggest thing is I never really quit in 2000 - I just stopped dipping. I would smoke the occasional cigar - usually about 3 or 4 times a year - keeping the sleeping nicotine addiction going in my brain. I also learned that there is no such thing as “I can handle it now - I know how to do it”. I can never handle it. That’s the thing about addiction - it knows you better than you know yourself, and it knows exactly what to say to hook you when you least expect it. You have to fight it every single day and not get complacent. Had I known that in 2010 I would be quit now for almost 6,400 days instead of 69 days. This time I will remain quit, and I know I will because I have help now and will not be doing it alone, and this brings me to the point of my post here.

If you have read this far and are a new quitter, you are my target audience. This is the best place for you but you have to buy in completely. You can't dick around and post something "when you get time". You have to make this a priority and post roll 1ST THING EVERY FUCKING DAY. It's so very simple to do and there is no fucking excuse for not doing it unless you're in prison or something. Even if you are off somewhere remote you can still have someone post it for you.

Doing this is - simple: if you are a person of integrity and can keep a promise, make that promise every fucking day before you do anything else at all. That's it.

Good luck, and I quit with you today.

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Re: 21 days quit - 2nd time!
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2017, 12:33:00 AM »
From my perspective it is interesting, because I relate in that I too quit dip but used to dip.
Parputt "One is one too many
One more is never enough"

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Your addict brain is going to try to convince you otherwise.
But you know better.
Addiction is beat one day at a time by the power of NO. "

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Re: 21 days quit - 2nd time!
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2017, 09:43:00 AM »
Quote from: gottadoit3
It's awesome that you chose to quit! Recognizing something you need to change and doing something about it is infinitely greater than doing nothing. It was really interesting hearing your story - 10 years is a long time!
Interesting? Sad is a better word, I think. LOL

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Re: 21 days quit - 2nd time!
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2017, 03:21:00 AM »
It's awesome that you chose to quit! Recognizing something you need to change and doing something about it is infinitely greater than doing nothing. It was really interesting hearing your story - 10 years is a long time!
Parputt "One is one too many
One more is never enough"

30yraddict "Doing it for one day proves that you are capable.
Your addict brain is going to try to convince you otherwise.
But you know better.
Addiction is beat one day at a time by the power of NO. "

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Re: 21 days quit - 2nd time!
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2017, 11:01:00 PM »
Day 58. Day one seems like such a long time ago but at the same time it seems like just yesterday. I've worked through the cravings, and continue to do so, and with the support from all you guys here I've been able to stay strong. I think I post pretty consistently first thing in the morning every morning, and I've been doing what I can to get involved with other groups. This has been a good experience, and today I talked to my first "recruit". We'll see if he wants to do it.

If you are new here, this works but you have to totally buy into it. As I say above, I threw away a ten year quit because I was stupid. I have no doubt had I known this website was available in 2010 I would be celebrating a huge number of days quit right now. As it stands i'm on day 58, and damn proud to quit with all of you!

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Re: 21 days quit - 2nd time!
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2017, 02:05:00 PM »
Thanks RDB. I appreciate everyone's support, and you are right - 100 days, though important and worth celebrating, is just one milestone in a lifelong commitment. Thanks for that clarification!

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Re: 21 days quit - 2nd time!
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2017, 11:35:00 AM »
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I'm looking forward to making it to day 100!
Welcome. KTC has a lot to offer. Read as much in these forums, and in the main KTC as your schedule allows. Also, get to know the members in your home quit group. They will be going through the same things you are.

I copied that one sentence from you intro. If the KTC community is guilty of one thing, it's over emphasizing the importance of 100 days quit. One hundred days quit is absolutely a milestone, and anybody who makes it 100 days quit should be proud as hell in reaching that milestone. Hitting 100 days quit is an accomplishment worth celebrating, and it is rightly celebrated here.

But 100 days quit is just one more day quit, just like all of them, and they are all worthy of a celebration, and they are all a day where any one of us can give in to our addiction.

What you will hear over and over again here is One Day At A Time (ODAAT). Take your quit one day at a time. At times take it one hour, minute, second at a time. Make your promise by posting roll early every day. Keep your promise, and make a new one tomorrow. The days will add up on their own.

Even though we all intend to be quit forever, the only thing we promise is to be quit for today. And, as you (and many, many others here) know, just one lapse in judgement. Just one "one won't hurt" will lead to months or years of slavery to a can.

I've been posting and keeping my promise for 486 days. And I'll do the same thing tomorrow, and many tomorrows after that. To hell if anyone things I'm going to let lapse the cheapest and most effective insurance policy I've ever had.

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Re: 21 days quit - 2nd time!
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2017, 07:06:00 PM »
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Hello everyone! I'm Larry, and I've been a nicotine addict since I was 16 (I'm 52 now). I quit the first time in 2000. It was on election day and after I voted I went for a dip and decided I was done. Threw the whole can out the window and didn't touch it again for 10 years - when I was fishing with a friend who had a can. Thought I could handle it, and you can probably figure out what comes next. Fast forward 7 years and I decided 3 weeks ago it's time to stop for good this time. I've read over others' experience here (and can I just say what a valuable resource this is? It wasn't around the first time I did this!) and I guess I'm just lucky. Both times it's been relatively beatable when I made my mind up. Don't get me wrong - I was a complete dick to everyone around me (even coworkers were like "WTF???") for a couple of days, but I knew enough about what was going on to remove myself from the situation to limit the collateral damage. Maybe it's because I was never a "pack a dip and leave in for an hour" chewer, but instead more of a "take wad, chew it hard for 15 to 20 minutes, and spit it out" so perhaps the addiction wasn't as strong?

I've heard mentioned on here drinking a good deal of water helps, and I agree. Exercise is big, also. I've chewed more gum than usual but aside from that I haven't needed any kind of oral fixation beaters, nor did I in 2000. It's just an every day, every hour, every minute mantra - I choose not to let this beat me, and I will control it. I'm now exactly 21 days since my last chew (Skoal LC Straight) and I'm feeling fewer withdrawals today than I have since I quit. I will do this - had one cancer scare already (prostate cancer) and don't need another - and I think my previous experience has helped me in 2 ways: 1) I had done it before so I knew I could do it again, and 2) I know now I can never "just handle one" ever again.

I'm looking forward to making it to day 100! I'll keep you all posted as I progress toward it.

Larry - Quit 2nd and final time 5/1/2017
Hey Larry, we have a lot in common, both in our early 50's, both had attempts at quitting that lasted several years (4 years for me), both failed at quitting for the same reason (thought we could have just one), and both found KTC three weeks into our quits.

You may think that you have this quit figured out because you have done it before for 10 years, (you only really quit once because quitting is forever, you just stopped for 10 years) but you will find a lot of knowledge and experience here in quitting for good. One important thing to remember is to never become complacent in your quit. Quitting is not as simple as not taking a dip, it is actively working at staying quit by making a promise every day to stay away from a forms of nicotine, and then keeping that promise. I think I could probably stay quit without KTC, but I know that as long as I am here posting my promise every day I will stay quit.

The pillars of KTC are accountablity and support. If you are willing to embrace these 2 things and want to put in the effort it takes to stay quit, send me a PM for my number.
Quit date: September 25, 2016
HOF date: January 2, 2017
Comma date: June 21, 2019

Become as addicted to your quit as you were to nic.

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21 days quit - 2nd time!
« on: May 21, 2017, 02:38:00 PM »
Hello everyone! I'm Larry, and I've been a nicotine addict since I was 16 (I'm 52 now). I quit the first time in 2000. It was on election day and after I voted I went for a dip and decided I was done. Threw the whole can out the window and didn't touch it again for 10 years - when I was fishing with a friend who had a can. Thought I could handle it, and you can probably figure out what comes next. Fast forward 7 years and I decided 3 weeks ago it's time to stop for good this time. I've read over others' experience here (and can I just say what a valuable resource this is? It wasn't around the first time I did this!) and I guess I'm just lucky. Both times it's been relatively beatable when I made my mind up. Don't get me wrong - I was a complete dick to everyone around me (even coworkers were like "WTF???") for a couple of days, but I knew enough about what was going on to remove myself from the situation to limit the collateral damage. Maybe it's because I was never a "pack a dip and leave in for an hour" chewer, but instead more of a "take wad, chew it hard for 15 to 20 minutes, and spit it out" so perhaps the addiction wasn't as strong?

I've heard mentioned on here drinking a good deal of water helps, and I agree. Exercise is big, also. I've chewed more gum than usual but aside from that I haven't needed any kind of oral fixation beaters, nor did I in 2000. It's just an every day, every hour, every minute mantra - I choose not to let this beat me, and I will control it. I'm now exactly 21 days since my last chew (Skoal LC Straight) and I'm feeling fewer withdrawals today than I have since I quit. I will do this - had one cancer scare already (prostate cancer) and don't need another - and I think my previous experience has helped me in 2 ways: 1) I had done it before so I knew I could do it again, and 2) I know now I can never "just handle one" ever again.

I'm looking forward to making it to day 100! I'll keep you all posted as I progress toward it.

Larry - Quit 2nd and final time 5/1/2017