Here we go..new here.

[mapper01]

Thanks Zam, will do.

[zam]

mapper, welcome from me as well. Nice job recognizing you are were a slave, and resolving to fix it.

Other than to add my support, I have nothing to add that 30 hasn't covered. Re-read his posts, take his advice and follow his lead. 30's advice kept me quit, and it will keep you quit if you listen hard.

PM me if I can help.

[mapper01]

I hear you flyingfree, it's the nicotine that's got me still :) I'm only less than 48 in...thanks for the tips guys, it's nice to hear feedback from you guys.

[30yraddict]

Thanks for the clarification... I get it now.

Couple of things that I would like to point out.

The only reason you "need" dip is to deliver the dose of nicotine your body requires to temporarily end your withdrawal.. That is the only thing nicotine is good for- filling the void created by the addiction to nicotine. That's also what makes it "reliable"- it is a reliable delivery of toxin into your bloodstream.

Dip/nicotine causes far more stress than it resolves. Thanks to nicotine, your body is in a nearly perpetual state of withdrawal all day.... except the times when you stop to relieve the withdrawal with more delivery of nicotine. In short, you were a puppet on a string.... Big tobacco's marionette.

As far as success stories my own reads like this:

Active chewer from the age of 10 to the age of 43. I quit Feb 13, 2011 after finding this site. The program here works, I am proof of that. It was the first time I have seen nicotine addiction treated like any other addiction- right down to the one day at a time approach. It was exactly what I needed.

So the program as written goes as follows:

1. Post Roll

2. Honor Your Promise

3. Repeat.

The roll post is more than just putting your name on a list- it is a promise to every quitter here that you will not use nicotine in any form today. We do not think about tomorrow, we deal with tomorrow when it comes.

Welcome to the freak show...

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[mapper01]

Hey guys, thanks for the feedback. So here is the reality, I'm a no bullshit person. I understand that there are some people who either get scared and quit, or have a close call and quit, or maybe know someone with cancer. But I haven't come across one single person in 35 years who just say, well, I just felt like quitting. We all have reasons to quit. So with that, I don't want to quit cause I like it, but I AM going to quit because I value my life, my money, my wife and my family. It's for me and for them that I do this, it's just time to man up and let go of the nicotine.

So, to answer your questions 30 yr..

I enjoy it b/c I can rely on it, it doesn't talk back, it's there when I need it and it tastes/feels good. But I also hate it b/c it's gross, I depend on it, it's killing me and it steals my money..and I also depend on it.

"It's time" refers to specifically that, it's time to quit before it kills me.

I'm guess I'm looking to read stories, hear about others success and failures and join a group of people who have struggled and are still struggling with similar issues.

Thanks guys, hope I wasn't to much of an ass, but I'm just under 48 hrs with no nicotine and a little grumpy :) Cheers!

[flyingfree]

I've tried as many have to quit in the past, even tried using things to help like medication, organic chew, etc...but nothing is like the real thing.  Just figured, I'm 35 and it's time, except I don't really want too...not sure I ever will like they tell you.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but none of us can help you quit if you don't want to. It's the exact reason why you keep failing. I can give you no more compelling reason to quit than This


Then tell me: what is it about chew that you think you enjoy so much?

What do you mean when you say "it's time?"

And - given that you don't want to quit, what is it that we can do for you?

Mapper,

Listen to 30yr, he's helped many an addict get their shit together, including this one.

I understand what you're saying. You realize that you should quit, that there's all these great benefits and tobacco is an awful substance. Your rational brain can process the logic, and when examined logically, quitting is such a clear winner that its a joke and sad you didn't realize it before.

But there's another part of you that doesn't feel like that. That wants to use, and keep using, despite and sometimes inspite of everything else.

I felt like that the first time I quit, and I caved. For a lot of reasons I failed, but that, I think, is the source.

I had to sit down and take a hard look at myself to start a successful quit. You need to realize that the addicted part of your brain will ALWAYS want tobacco, and in some case will drive you to incredible lengths to get it. That is why you don't FEEL like quitting. Your addiction is in charge and running you like the nicotine slave you are.

A key for me has been acknowledging that the addicted part of my brain is sick, poisoned, and defective. I did awful things when obeying that addiction. I must NOT listen to that part of me. I must ISOLATE it from myself to allow non-impaired cognitive processes to take place, and when I do it makes it so much easier to quit.

Just like you wouldn't let a crazy person drive you around in your car, you shouldn't let your addicted mind make decisions. Because its going to FUCKING KILL YOU. In a slow, painful, horrifying manner while your family weeps and breaks and screams and struggles to survive without you.

So, do YOU not feel like quitting? Or is your addiction driving you around? Who's in charge here?

When you're in charge and ready to quit, post roll, and I'll quit with you.

[JJMARSHALL117]

Hey all, on day two of quitting. Guess it was just time, been doing the Grizzly Wintergreen for a while, Skoal before that. Wow, actually, nicotine started for me about age 16 (now 35) with cigarettes AND chew in high school. Then, after college, the cigarettes phased out, and chew took over full-time. So, about 13 years later, it's time to quit. I've got a wife of 10 years and 3 boys (4,6,8). I've tried as many have to quit in the past, even tried using things to help like medication, organic chew, etc...but nothing is like the real thing. Just figured, I'm 35 and it's time, except I don't really want too...not sure I ever will like they tell you. Anyway, I'm here, looking forward to reading all your posts about how you've stopped! Cheers, from Kansas City.

Mapper, welcome to the site. I"m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and guess when you say you "except I don't really want to" is a mistake/joke because you came here. If you actually don't really want to, then this isnt the place for you.

If you haven't already visit the welcome center, read up on posting roll, why we do it and what it means. Read the stories that are out there especially Tom and Jenny keen. If you don't want to quit now those stories sure as shit will make you want to especially having 3 boys.

Get over to the november quit group and post roll and do so every day. Use the vets, get numbers and drink from the KTC koolaid and commit to Quiting for today, wake up tomorrow and start all over. You have to take it one day at a time.

My story is not to far off from yours started at 16, have tried to quit a million times only to fall flat on my face. I'm only 29 so not as far along as you, however I have only been around this site for 4 days with 100% buy in and it has work wonders.

Join me and the rest of your november quit brothers. Post roll today and do so from here on out. Alot of people around here exchange cell numbers to get each other through those tough ass times. If you want to buy in I would love to be your quit brother and exchange numbers. We will have the vets to fall back on big we will both be in the day to day trench fight together. If your willing to buy in PM me and we can exchange.

[30yraddict]

I've tried as many have to quit in the past, even tried using things to help like medication, organic chew, etc...but nothing is like the real thing.  Just figured, I'm 35 and it's time, except I don't really want too...not sure I ever will like they tell you.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but none of us can help you quit if you don't want to. It's the exact reason why you keep failing. I can give you no more compelling reason to quit than This


Then tell me: what is it about chew that you think you enjoy so much?

What do you mean when you say "it's time?"

And - given that you don't want to quit, what is it that we can do for you?

[mapper01]

Hey all, on day two of quitting. Guess it was just time, been doing the Grizzly Wintergreen for a while, Skoal before that. Wow, actually, nicotine started for me about age 16 (now 35) with cigarettes AND chew in high school. Then, after college, the cigarettes phased out, and chew took over full-time. So, about 13 years later, it's time to quit. I've got a wife of 10 years and 3 boys (4,6,8). I've tried as many have to quit in the past, even tried using things to help like medication, organic chew, etc...but nothing is like the real thing. Just figured, I'm 35 and it's time, except I don't really want too...not sure I ever will like they tell you. Anyway, I'm here, looking forward to reading all your posts about how you've stopped! Cheers, from Kansas City.