Intro at day 41

[Diesel2112]

Congrats on 100 days, brother!  Good stuff.  As for constipation, drink a glass of orange-flavored Citrucel at night.  Add one cup of strong coffee the next morning and get to a toilet.  Try to find one with a seat-belt, too cause you're gonna need it. 

I swear it works.  I could get into a 3 pt stance and fire a turd 20 yards...maybe 30...if I wanted to.  I bet the exit velocity exceeds 1200 fps because I thought I heard a sonic boom one time.

Stay quit, stay strong, brother!!!

The friction would probably cauterize your asshole shut.

A pot of coffee and a bag of prunes???

Surprised you didn't achieve lift off when your ass hit the seat.

[Mjollnir]

Congrats on 100 days, brother! Good stuff. As for constipation, drink a glass of orange-flavored Citrucel at night. Add one cup of strong coffee the next morning and get to a toilet. Try to find one with a seat-belt, too cause you're gonna need it.

I swear it works. I could get into a 3 pt stance and fire a turd 20 yards...maybe 30...if I wanted to. I bet the exit velocity exceeds 1200 fps because I thought I heard a sonic boom one time.

Stay quit, stay strong, brother!!!

The friction would probably cauterize your asshole shut.

[Evil_Won]

Congrats on 100 days, brother!  Good stuff.  As for constipation, drink a glass of orange-flavored Citrucel at night.  Add one cup of strong coffee the next morning and get to a toilet.  Try to find one with a seat-belt, too cause you're gonna need it. 

I swear it works.  I could get into a 3 pt stance and fire a turd 20 yards...maybe 30...if I wanted to.  I bet the exit velocity exceeds 1200 fps because I thought I heard a sonic boom one time.

Stay quit, stay strong, brother!!!

'crackup'

Contratulations on hitting the HOF Jim. It is one hell of a milestone.

It's funny how the human body tells us when we need something: sleep, food, water, etc. On Sunday, when I woke up, I have a odd craving for fiber, sugar, and caffeine. The caffeine is not unusual at all, but the fiber and sugar sure as fuck are.

Anywho, without blinking I made a full pot of coffee instead of the usual Sunday cappuccino. I grabbed the paper and a bag a prunes and started my morning. Exactly six hours later, while dropping my daughter off at a birthday party, I was squeezing cheeks and in a damn near fetal position.

How I drove I don't know, but I made it home clean. Within seconds I was screaming "I Believe!" and "Hallelujah!" while wondering if I had still had that box of rags in the garage and a few gallons of bleach.

[Evil_Won]

I found this site at the beginning of my quit. I found and received a lot of information, inspiration, and motivation to help me quit through the info articles, HOF speeches, and Words of Wisdom section, and just reading other peoples intro's and subsequent postings in those intro's.

So, here is my intro:

I am 54 yrs old and have been dipping Skoal since I was 16 yrs old. As I am approaching my birthday coming this May and thinking of my mortality and just recently having my salivary gland removed (not due to dipping) but what about next time...and having a lot of dental work done last year (not due to dipping but due to teeth grinding) but why continue something which can and will negate all the dental work...and then thinking of the money, when I started dipping Skoal was 30 ish cents a can, now it is over 5 dollars a can...I decided to quit.

Now the intersting story of how my quit went down, readers digest verion: Our plan was to wean off to two dips a day, no longer than one hour dips, with no refreshes, do this for an non determined period of times then quit. Well, I made it to day two of weaning and guess what happened, so much time elapsed between my last dip and my next dip, when I put it in I felt everything that happened, the increase in my heart rate, my hands getting cold, my neck getting cold, hand shakes, the nasty taste, everything. I said to myself what the f u c k  are you doing? I spit my dip out and walked to my wife and flung the can to her and said I am done.

My quit overall has been going OK, some ups and downs but doing good, until this weekend. Don't know what happened, craves, the voids (what I call them), depressed, unhappy, boredom.

Here are my interpretations of what I am feeling, I may be right I may be wrong...

Boredom - I am not used to doing one thing at a time. I always did two things at a time, I watched TV and dipped, I read the paper and dipped, I sat with my feet up gazing out the window and dipped. Now I am watching TV with no dip, reading the paper with no dip, and gazing out the window with no dip, borrrinngg...My mind has to get used to doing only one thing at a time...

Craves - I believe in time these will be less in number, less in frequency, and less in intensity. And they are. My craves are very seldom and pass quickly.

Depression - I was under the influence of nicotine, a stimulant, an upper, for 38 yrs. I just stopped, I have crashed. Of course I will be depressed, have a feeling of unhappiness, feel down...makes sense.

The Voids - This is what I call the experience of time where I am not craving a dip, not really missing a dip, just cognizant of the void that not dipping has created. That something is missing creating a void. I believe in time this void will be filled in and smoothed over by life, by life in general or specific alternate activities.

For 38 yrs I got up every morning and made a choice, conscious, then subconscious, through my actions to dip for that day. Now I get up every morning and make a different choice, right now conscious and hopefully one day subconscious, through my actions to NOT dip for that day.

41 days ago I said today is the first day of the rest of my life, actually everyday is the first day of the rest of my life. I will also add that today could be the last day of the rest of my life, I try to remember that, and the last thing I want to do on the last day of my life is to be thinking of dipping, but it can be hard sometimes...I also have to be aware and accept that 41 days of not doing something is not going to wipe out 38 years of doing that something....

Jim
Utah

Congrats on day 41. That's nothing to sneeze at, especially since you are doing it semi-rogue. You said it yourself that this site, the intros, HOF speeches, etc. have really helped you. How about posting roll and getting involved to further help yourself and to "pay to forward" to some new guys?

Interesting. You didn't participate or pay it forward. Your 16th post was your HOF speech. To each his own. Stay quit and best wishes on your prostate.

[05wrxing]

Congrats on 100 days, brother!  Good stuff.  As for constipation, drink a glass of orange-flavored Citrucel at night.  Add one cup of strong coffee the next morning and get to a toilet.  Try to find one with a seat-belt, too cause you're gonna need it. 

I swear it works.  I could get into a 3 pt stance and fire a turd 20 yards...maybe 30...if I wanted to.  I bet the exit velocity exceeds 1200 fps because I thought I heard a sonic boom one time.

Stay quit, stay strong, brother!!!

'crackup'

Contratulations on hitting the HOF Jim. It is one hell of a milestone.

[Bean]

Congrats on 100 days, brother! Good stuff. As for constipation, drink a glass of orange-flavored Citrucel at night. Add one cup of strong coffee the next morning and get to a toilet. Try to find one with a seat-belt, too cause you're gonna need it.

I swear it works. I could get into a 3 pt stance and fire a turd 20 yards...maybe 30...if I wanted to. I bet the exit velocity exceeds 1200 fps because I thought I heard a sonic boom one time.

Stay quit, stay strong, brother!!!

[Jim1234]

100 day HOF posts. What makes 100 so special? Nothing really other that it is the first number with three digits.

My day 100 was no different than my day 99 and day 101 was no different than day 100. I contemplated whether to even do a 100 day HOF post, what decided it was this past episode of Elementary. Sherlock was balking at getting his one year pin, his sponsor said the pin was not for him but for the other people, to give new substance/drug abuse quitters encouragement that one year free is attainable, that they can do it just like Sherlock has.

So, without further ado, today is 104 days since I quit my Skoal habit of 38 years. Overall my quit in its entirety has not been that hard. It has not been a piece of cake or a walk in the park, had a slump around late thirties-early forties, but just not that hard overall as I thought it would be, which leads me to my biggest regret, not quitting sooner. But it is what it is and the important thing is I did quit.

When I started my quit and I was on day 5 I could not even imagine day 10. And when I was on day 10 I could not even imagine day 20. And when I hit day 21 (three weeks) I was thinking holy shit, I have to do double what I just did to hit 42 days (six weeks) and I will not even be half way to 100, hence the one day at a time philosophy. A new quitter cannot fathom being quit what to him is so far in the future but a new quitter can quit one day at a time, which will become one week, which will become one month, which will become one year, which will become multiyear, all one day at a time. I quit dipping the same way I dipped all those 38 years, one day at a time. When I (and probably you) was dipping I/we did not say to ourselves I wonder what it will be like dipping next year, we just dipped one day at a time and the next year came. That is how we quit, we donÂ’t wonder what it will be like not dipping next year, we just donÂ’t dip one day at a time and the next year will come.

Now, for my personal hurdles, just about the time I quit dipping my growing prostate must have hit a threshold and I have been living with the classical symptoms of an enlarged prostate, the worse being the numerous trips to the bathroom to take a leak, especially at night which really takes a toll on your sleep. In the beginning we were worried that it may have been prostate cancer and all I could think of was the irony, quit dipping after 38 yrs to hopefully live longer and healthier to then be diagnosed with prostate cancer, or any cancer for that matter, talk about the very definition of ironyÂ…but no cancer, my PSA in 2002 was 0.8 and in 2013 it is only 1.1. I am on meds for the enlarged prostate which has an odd side effect, I have had tests, which were painful and humiliating, I got an infection from said test with a 102 temp, which laid me up for a week. I have another humiliating procedure this Thursday, and then in the near future I will have an operation called a TURP using a procedure known as button vaporization, which may have that same odd side effect the rest of my life. My boss has made a comment to myself and my wife that he was surprised that I did not start dipping again, he figured most people would and said that he is impressed with my resolve. Why? Dipping Skoal will not do anything for my prostate nor will it help me in any way nor make me better in any way.

Which brings me to is there anything I actually “miss” about dipping Skoal. YES. I miss being in control of my bowel movements. I ate, I dipped, I shit for the most part. Now I eat and I may or may not shit or I do not eat and I may or may not shit or I shit and soon thereafter I have to shit again. My bowel movements are all over the place. Of course that is no reason to start dipping again but it does get downright ridiculous sometimes. So, I try to find humor in it. Imagine how that would sound, why did you start dipping again? So I could shit at my leisure…when I want to. 'crackup' Hahahaha. Yeah, dumb…

Back to serious. Though everyoneÂ’s quit will have commonalities and have similarities, everyoneÂ’s quit will still be unique to that individual. Some individuals may be hit harder by certain things and some individuals may fly past certain things. Either way if I and the numerous people before me can do 100 days and beyond then you too can do it. We are not supermen, at least I am not, I am just a guy who dipped Skoal for 38 yrs and decided to quit, and realize that this is truly a matter of life and death. And I choose life. And when I die I will die free.

I want to thank Wt57 for PMÂ’ing me when I first joined and reaching out, my invitation still stands, if you make it down my way let me know.

[Its_Got2Happen]

Hey Jim, I like your intro. Cant believe you waited so long to post one. I just read alot of banter between you and some guys in your quit group. It was about posting roll and it grabbed my attention. I wanted to take a second to introduce myself and offer my 2 cents. I am Ryan, 61 days quit, just a few ahead of you. 25+ year dipper, Kodiac and Grizzly.

Here's my take. In the begining I was like, "yeah whatever". Had no plans to do it. I played along for a few days, then I decided to just keep doing it even if I really didnt agree or didn't think I needed to. After all, some of these bastards dipped a decade longer than me and somehow they were quit for good. Some of them for YEARS. Maybe they knew a little something about quiting that I didn't. Over time here are a few things I realized about roll posting.

1. Making an affirmation and a promise each morning is very powerful. Can the promise be made just to yourself. Sure it can, but is it as powerful? In my opinion it most certainly IS NOT.

2. Post rolling = accountability. I am assuming that you have accepted that fact that you are an addict.

FACT: An addict WITHOUT accountability is (or will become) A USER.

3. Are we making a promise to strangers or random avatars? HELL NO! Thats what I thought 61 days ago. Now I realize that these are people, just like you and I. They are people that you and I have alot in common with. We really understand each other and the impact that addiction has on our lives. I have gotten to know many of these people and they have played an enormous role in my quit. I never would have guessed it, but that's the truth.

4. I agree with you KTC is a great informational website. But if that is all you are using it for you are not taking full advantage of it. In fact you are missing out on the greatest and most powerful part. THE BROTHERHOOD!!!!!!! Posting roll is a promise not to use for that day. You make a promise, and your brothers help you keep it. If you don't make a promise, how the hell can anyone help you keep it. Perhaps you don't need the help??

Final point. If you don't need help, more power to you man. But for me, this is my life, and I will take all the help I can get. The method is tried and true, why mess around. Personally I have tried to quit 100 times, and ALWAYS failed. Something was always missing. I came here and found out what it was, THE BROTHERHOOD.

[Bean]

Jim,

Congrats on 41 days nic-free. Nic-free is the most important thing. And I'm glad that you have gotten inpiration from the geniuses on this site.

One thing I want you to do...post roll. If you've gotten advice from this site, then you know how important that is. I don't have the statistics. But, generally, people who post are quitters. People who don't are cavers. You're off to a great start. Don't throw it all away. In fact, fill one of those "voids" with something new...posting roll.

Just a suggestion. Glad you enjoy our advice and support. Wish we had yours.

[Wt57]

Jim you should post up in the April 2013 group. There are at least 2 guys in that group from your general area. Like evil one said pay it forward you will find great satisfaction and personal strength from doing so.

[Evil_Won]

I found this site at the beginning of my quit. I found and received a lot of information, inspiration, and motivation to help me quit through the info articles, HOF speeches, and Words of Wisdom section, and just reading other peoples intro's and subsequent postings in those intro's.

So, here is my intro:

I am 54 yrs old and have been dipping Skoal since I was 16 yrs old. As I am approaching my birthday coming this May and thinking of my mortality and just recently having my salivary gland removed (not due to dipping) but what about next time...and having a lot of dental work done last year (not due to dipping but due to teeth grinding) but why continue something which can and will negate all the dental work...and then thinking of the money, when I started dipping Skoal was 30 ish cents a can, now it is over 5 dollars a can...I decided to quit.

Now the intersting story of how my quit went down, readers digest verion: Our plan was to wean off to two dips a day, no longer than one hour dips, with no refreshes, do this for an non determined period of times then quit. Well, I made it to day two of weaning and guess what happened, so much time elapsed between my last dip and my next dip, when I put it in I felt everything that happened, the increase in my heart rate, my hands getting cold, my neck getting cold, hand shakes, the nasty taste, everything. I said to myself what the f u c k are you doing? I spit my dip out and walked to my wife and flung the can to her and said I am done.

My quit overall has been going OK, some ups and downs but doing good, until this weekend. Don't know what happened, craves, the voids (what I call them), depressed, unhappy, boredom.

Here are my interpretations of what I am feeling, I may be right I may be wrong...

Boredom - I am not used to doing one thing at a time. I always did two things at a time, I watched TV and dipped, I read the paper and dipped, I sat with my feet up gazing out the window and dipped. Now I am watching TV with no dip, reading the paper with no dip, and gazing out the window with no dip, borrrinngg...My mind has to get used to doing only one thing at a time...

Craves - I believe in time these will be less in number, less in frequency, and less in intensity. And they are. My craves are very seldom and pass quickly.

Depression - I was under the influence of nicotine, a stimulant, an upper, for 38 yrs. I just stopped, I have crashed. Of course I will be depressed, have a feeling of unhappiness, feel down...makes sense.

The Voids - This is what I call the experience of time where I am not craving a dip, not really missing a dip, just cognizant of the void that not dipping has created. That something is missing creating a void. I believe in time this void will be filled in and smoothed over by life, by life in general or specific alternate activities.

For 38 yrs I got up every morning and made a choice, conscious, then subconscious, through my actions to dip for that day. Now I get up every morning and make a different choice, right now conscious and hopefully one day subconscious, through my actions to NOT dip for that day.

41 days ago I said today is the first day of the rest of my life, actually everyday is the first day of the rest of my life. I will also add that today could be the last day of the rest of my life, I try to remember that, and the last thing I want to do on the last day of my life is to be thinking of dipping, but it can be hard sometimes...I also have to be aware and accept that 41 days of not doing something is not going to wipe out 38 years of doing that something....

Jim
Utah

Congrats on day 41. That's nothing to sneeze at, especially since you are doing it semi-rogue. You said it yourself that this site, the intros, HOF speeches, etc. have really helped you. How about posting roll and getting involved to further help yourself and to "pay to forward" to some new guys?

[Jim1234]

I found this site at the beginning of my quit. I found and received a lot of information, inspiration, and motivation to help me quit through the info articles, HOF speeches, and Words of Wisdom section, and just reading other peoples intro's and subsequent postings in those intro's.

So, here is my intro:

I am 54 yrs old and have been dipping Skoal since I was 16 yrs old. As I am approaching my birthday coming this May and thinking of my mortality and just recently having my salivary gland removed (not due to dipping) but what about next time...and having a lot of dental work done last year (not due to dipping but due to teeth grinding) but why continue something which can and will negate all the dental work...and then thinking of the money, when I started dipping Skoal was 30 ish cents a can, now it is over 5 dollars a can...I decided to quit.

Now the intersting story of how my quit went down, readers digest verion: Our plan was to wean off to two dips a day, no longer than one hour dips, with no refreshes, do this for an non determined period of times then quit. Well, I made it to day two of weaning and guess what happened, so much time elapsed between my last dip and my next dip, when I put it in I felt everything that happened, the increase in my heart rate, my hands getting cold, my neck getting cold, hand shakes, the nasty taste, everything. I said to myself what the f u c k are you doing? I spit my dip out and walked to my wife and flung the can to her and said I am done.

My quit overall has been going OK, some ups and downs but doing good, until this weekend. Don't know what happened, craves, the voids (what I call them), depressed, unhappy, boredom.

Here are my interpretations of what I am feeling, I may be right I may be wrong...

Boredom - I am not used to doing one thing at a time. I always did two things at a time, I watched TV and dipped, I read the paper and dipped, I sat with my feet up gazing out the window and dipped. Now I am watching TV with no dip, reading the paper with no dip, and gazing out the window with no dip, borrrinngg...My mind has to get used to doing only one thing at a time...

Craves - I believe in time these will be less in number, less in frequency, and less in intensity. And they are. My craves are very seldom and pass quickly.

Depression - I was under the influence of nicotine, a stimulant, an upper, for 38 yrs. I just stopped, I have crashed. Of course I will be depressed, have a feeling of unhappiness, feel down...makes sense.

The Voids - This is what I call the experience of time where I am not craving a dip, not really missing a dip, just cognizant of the void that not dipping has created. That something is missing creating a void. I believe in time this void will be filled in and smoothed over by life, by life in general or specific alternate activities.

For 38 yrs I got up every morning and made a choice, conscious, then subconscious, through my actions to dip for that day. Now I get up every morning and make a different choice, right now conscious and hopefully one day subconscious, through my actions to NOT dip for that day.

41 days ago I said today is the first day of the rest of my life, actually everyday is the first day of the rest of my life. I will also add that today could be the last day of the rest of my life, I try to remember that, and the last thing I want to do on the last day of my life is to be thinking of dipping, but it can be hard sometimes...I also have to be aware and accept that 41 days of not doing something is not going to wipe out 38 years of doing that something....

Jim
Utah