Getting the better of me..

[Scowick65]

Whether nicotine dependency was established and/or maintained by being chewed, smoked, drank, snuffed, sprayed, swallowed, sucked, licked or patched, in the end there is only one way out - no nicotine today.

[Diesel2112]

You don't appreciate SHIT from any of us.

Just get the fuck out of here and go watch Sparky while your parents are out of town and dip until your fucking face falls off.

Jesus H. Christ. I am in NO MOOD to hear from some whinny ass snot nosed pussy ass bitch complaining about too much down time while watching his mommy's fucking dog!!!

I got real world problems the size of my Shlong to deal with, and my shit is ginormous.

What kind of dog is it?????

Better not be a poodle. I swear to god if its some ankle biter pussy dog I'm gonna really get pissed!!!!!!

[zam]

...... I understand that's what the forums are for, but I can't keep myself truly accountable by just the forum.

Jon, if you can keep your word, then KTC will keep you quit (once you're onboard). The "forum" does not keep you accountable. I do. Your quit group does. REAL F^%ing people do. People who aren't afraid of raising the BS flag because that will ruin Thanksgiving. A "forum" won't demand answers from you. A bunch of individuals like those posting in this thread damn sure will. What you MEANT to say was probably "If I jump in this boat, it's possible I'll be held truly accountable, and that scares the shit out of me. I've not lived a single day as an adult without dip. What will I do when anxious? That scares the shit out of me." PS - I was in the same boat 450 or so days ago. We were all in the same boat.

.......They (family) would love to see me quit and help me quit. ......

Same with my family. I did my best to let them think nicotine wasn't a problem, but when pressed on the subject, I basically lied to them or became such an asshole about it that they just pretended I wasn't Copenhagen's bitch-slave. When the wife asks if "this dress makes my butt look big?", what do you say? When you tell your family you're really gonna quit next month, what do they say? They take the easy route and say "Oh that's wonderful johnny! Good for you." What they think is "Uh -huh. rrrrriiiiiiiiight." Here's the short story - Your family aint gonna be more supportive next week/month/year. Next week/month/year it will just be harder for them to not literally roll their eyes when you announce the next "quit" plan.

[Notdeadyet]

Jon you say you are addicted but do you truly understand what that means?

You have a chemical controlling your life. Every second of it. It tells you what to do, what to think, when to think.

You are a junkie. A meth whore. A crack head. A drug addict.

Quit arguing for your drug. You need to take control back now. Show the bitch who is in charge. And your quit needs to be the number one priority in your life. Even more important than watching a dog. Really!

[Radman]

Did I just read that a guy wants to wait 2 weeks to quit because he HAS TO WATCH HIS PARENTS DOG????

I've heard it all now.

Yeah dude...you better wait. That's some real heavy shit right there. Talk about LIFE kicking you in the balls.

NOBODY has ever watched Fido for Mommy and Daddy before without a lip full of posion.

What the fuck is going on in here?????

You wanna quit...QUIT.

You can't get a little bit quit.

Man the fuck up or get the fuck out.

This was the weakest shit I ever did read.

Agreed. I've seen lots of addicts come and go, but that may have been the longest explanation of an excuse that I've ever read. Sincerely, I think it may be. And a weak excuse, to boot. THere are folks here that quit while family members were on their death beds. There are folks here that quit while they themselves were suffering terrible trauma, while serving military duty overseas, while laid up for 3 months due to knee surgery......... the list is long, and just about any of them make dog/house sitting laughable.

For the record, the knee surgery thing was my story. So, the excuse about "a lot of down time sitting around" won't fly with me. 10 weeks in an immobilzer meant I couldn't to anything but sit. Hell, I couldn't even drive for the first 6 weeks.

I'm not trying to be a bully here. I just want to point out 3 things that may help you:

1. Every person alive has drama to deal with.
2. No matter how long you wait, there will always be some other excuse available.
3. The folks posting responses here are not naive. We have all been where you are, and we know what works. Quitting right now works.

[Diesel2112]

Did I just read that a guy wants to wait 2 weeks to quit because he HAS TO WATCH HIS PARENTS DOG????

I've heard it all now.

Yeah dude...you better wait. That's some real heavy shit right there. Talk about LIFE kicking you in the balls.

NOBODY has ever watched Fido for Mommy and Daddy before without a lip full of posion.

What the fuck is going on in here?????

You wanna quit...QUIT.

You can't get a little bit quit.

Man the fuck up or get the fuck out.

This was the weakest shit I ever did read.

[Skoal Monster]

Sorry Jon but your mind set is all wrong for quitting.

You've failed before you ever even began.

Thinking about using Nicotine replacement therapy is an excuse to continue using nicotine. There is no evidence that N.R.T. is helpful to quit chewing. Even the manufacturers say that " this product has not been evaluated" as an aid to quit using chew. Using nicotine to quit using nicotine just doesn't work. You may as well just switch brands of dip to appleberrylabiahagen, and click your magic slippers together while you wish upon a star.

You don't need your parents nagging to quit.- This is another excuse ( a lame one)

Weening doesn't work either- just another excuse to continue chewing. All weening will do is put you in a constant state of withdrawl while you " cut down". The end result will be you fail. You need to do it quick, like ripping off a bandaid or a prom dress. cold turkey takes three days to get the nicotine out of your system. Weening takes weeks or months.

90% OF ALL SUCCESSFUL LONG TERM QUITS ARE COLD TURKEY - American Cancer Society

You haven't set a date??? SIGH.... Why not? any date is better than no date. This in and of itself reeks of insincerity

Life is never going to present you with a trouble free opportunity to quit. Shit will continue to roll down hill. This is going to happen whether you quit today, tomorrow, or in two weeks. Your hesitation to step into the ring today betrays your true feelings about quitting. You don't want it.


Come back when your tired of lying to yourself

Come back when the doctor scares the shit out of you after your second biopsy.

Come back when you have cancer

Come back when you are ready to do this for yourself.

We'll leave the light on for you. Take the first step

sM

[Kubrick]

Jon, ask yourself this question, and give yourself a no-bullshit answer:  Between now and May 1st, what specifically is going to occur that will increase the likelihood of you will quit using nicotine?  Seriously.  If you would, post the answer here.  I would love to debate.  You may be the first person that ever gave a logical, reasonable answer.

I Really do appreciate all of the support you guys have given me, and showing that you care, and really want to help another person in this world quit the SHIT. Even when you call me a pussy, I realize you are just trying to motivate me, and push me.. It has really made me consider, what is going to be different two weeks from now, rather than TODAY.

I am 23, been dipping for 5 years, I am addicted. I'll be the first to admit it. I Dip all day if I am not eating or sleeping (and even fall asleep with it in my mouth). It does have negative effects on me, creates acne that I never had before doing this. And I am just a slave to it, this all not even considering what other people think about me, I wouldn't want to know.

To Zam, this is my first time I am trying to quit, It never even came to me that I should quit the last few years. But after some real soul searching and what I want from my life, this is the right thing to do. I do not want to wait until I am 25, 30, 35, or even 40 to quit doing this shit. Hell, I wouldn't make it until then either I bet.
The way I see things is the more you're prepared the better you'll do. I am watching my parents dog and their house while they are out of town until early May. A lot of down time sitting around their house after work, a lot of freedom, no one criticizing me, etc.. I need the nagging on a daily basis and the support. I understand that's what the forums are for, but I can't keep myself truly accountable by just the forum. They would love to see me quit and help me quit. My father quit smoking after 25 years and hasn't smoked a cig since, and he hates the shit (Dip). He cannot comprehend how I even got on it and I do not try to hide it from him at all. It has gotten too much in the way of my life and negative perceptions - I no longer want whether its from friends/family, etc.

guys, I bet he just wanted some tips on how to quit and you are all being so mean, if I was this guy I think I'd quit later beacuse of all the harsh words and I'd quit on my own because you are all so tough, besides we all know how easy it is to quit on your own. Sarcasm

I did come here looking for some tips other than the obvious that NOW is better than later. Though I have never set a date and never pushed a date yet. And I want to take this serious to prove to many people I can do something right, its the start of a turn around. I was considering trying the patches for a week, or gum or other things, but also cold turkey could work.. I already am a seeder probably like most dippers.

One of the bigger problems is that I dip all (5-6 pouches) day at work, and during these last two weeks I am bringing less dip with me to work so I can start weening myself down. from the routine. Because when my date does come, I don't want it to just go as well. I want to be prepared..

Thanks for all of the support, and I'll try to check back more often if you guys respond. I am always up for a debate as well "Zam."

-Jon (Buffalo, NY)

The best time to quit is today.

Weaning won't work, 2 weeks from now won't work. I know in your addict mind you have it all figured out.

But trust us. We're all quit here. We know how to successfully quit. If you throw that stuff out right now, you'll be on day 14 when May 1st rolls around. The nicotine will be out of your system.

There will always be stressful situations, and reasons your addict mind will get you to dip. It's not worth it.

Do it today. Statistically, your future quit date will never come. Don't be a dumbass like me and continue to put that crap in your face for another 20 years. Be a badass quitter today.

Give yourself that freedom today.

[kkljinc]

Jon, ask yourself this question, and give yourself a no-bullshit answer:  Between now and May 1st, what specifically is going to occur that will increase the likelihood of you will quit using nicotine?  Seriously.  If you would, post the answer here.  I would love to debate.  You may be the first person that ever gave a logical, reasonable answer.

I Really do appreciate all of the support you guys have given me, and showing that you care, and really want to help another person in this world quit the SHIT. Even when you call me a pussy, I realize you are just trying to motivate me, and push me.. It has really made me consider, what is going to be different two weeks from now, rather than TODAY.

I am 23, been dipping for 5 years, I am addicted. I'll be the first to admit it. I Dip all day if I am not eating or sleeping (and even fall asleep with it in my mouth). It does have negative effects on me, creates acne that I never had before doing this. And I am just a slave to it, this all not even considering what other people think about me, I wouldn't want to know.

To Zam, this is my first time I am trying to quit, It never even came to me that I should quit the last few years. But after some real soul searching and what I want from my life, this is the right thing to do. I do not want to wait until I am 25, 30, 35, or even 40 to quit doing this shit. Hell, I wouldn't make it until then either I bet.
The way I see things is the more you're prepared the better you'll do. I am watching my parents dog and their house while they are out of town until early May. A lot of down time sitting around their house after work, a lot of freedom, no one criticizing me, etc.. I need the nagging on a daily basis and the support. I understand that's what the forums are for, but I can't keep myself truly accountable by just the forum. They would love to see me quit and help me quit. My father quit smoking after 25 years and hasn't smoked a cig since, and he hates the shit (Dip). He cannot comprehend how I even got on it and I do not try to hide it from him at all. It has gotten too much in the way of my life and negative perceptions - I no longer want whether its from friends/family, etc.

guys, I bet he just wanted some tips on how to quit and you are all being so mean, if I was this guy I think I'd quit later beacuse of all the harsh words and I'd quit on my own because you are all so tough, besides we all know how easy it is to quit on your own. Sarcasm

I did come here looking for some tips other than the obvious that NOW is better than later. Though I have never set a date and never pushed a date yet. And I want to take this serious to prove to many people I can do something right, its the start of a turn around. I was considering trying the patches for a week, or gum or other things, but also cold turkey could work.. I already am a seeder probably like most dippers.

One of the bigger problems is that I dip all (5-6 pouches) day at work, and during these last two weeks I am bringing less dip with me to work so I can start weening myself down. from the routine. Because when my date does come, I don't want it to just go as well. I want to be prepared..

Thanks for all of the support, and I'll try to check back more often if you guys respond. I am always up for a debate as well "Zam."

-Jon (Buffalo, NY)

So, are you quit or not? Seems like you saw the words of advice from others, agreed, then went on with a planned quit?

Jump in, you can wean yourself down all you want, when you finally go off it wont be any better. You're 25, and I am that dude trying to quit late into his 30's, think about what you just said.

[mich 34]

Jon, ask yourself this question, and give yourself a no-bullshit answer:  Between now and May 1st, what specifically is going to occur that will increase the likelihood of you will quit using nicotine?  Seriously.  If you would, post the answer here.  I would love to debate.  You may be the first person that ever gave a logical, reasonable answer.

I Really do appreciate all of the support you guys have given me, and showing that you care, and really want to help another person in this world quit the SHIT. Even when you call me a pussy, I realize you are just trying to motivate me, and push me.. It has really made me consider, what is going to be different two weeks from now, rather than TODAY.

I am 23, been dipping for 5 years, I am addicted. I'll be the first to admit it. I Dip all day if I am not eating or sleeping (and even fall asleep with it in my mouth). It does have negative effects on me, creates acne that I never had before doing this. And I am just a slave to it, this all not even considering what other people think about me, I wouldn't want to know.

To Zam, this is my first time I am trying to quit, It never even came to me that I should quit the last few years. But after some real soul searching and what I want from my life, this is the right thing to do. I do not want to wait until I am 25, 30, 35, or even 40 to quit doing this shit. Hell, I wouldn't make it until then either I bet.
The way I see things is the more you're prepared the better you'll do. I am watching my parents dog and their house while they are out of town until early May. A lot of down time sitting around their house after work, a lot of freedom, no one criticizing me, etc.. I need the nagging on a daily basis and the support. I understand that's what the forums are for, but I can't keep myself truly accountable by just the forum. They would love to see me quit and help me quit. My father quit smoking after 25 years and hasn't smoked a cig since, and he hates the shit (Dip). He cannot comprehend how I even got on it and I do not try to hide it from him at all. It has gotten too much in the way of my life and negative perceptions - I no longer want whether its from friends/family, etc.

guys, I bet he just wanted some tips on how to quit and you are all being so mean, if I was this guy I think I'd quit later beacuse of all the harsh words and I'd quit on my own because you are all so tough, besides we all know how easy it is to quit on your own. Sarcasm

I did come here looking for some tips other than the obvious that NOW is better than later. Though I have never set a date and never pushed a date yet. And I want to take this serious to prove to many people I can do something right, its the start of a turn around. I was considering trying the patches for a week, or gum or other things, but also cold turkey could work.. I already am a seeder probably like most dippers.

One of the bigger problems is that I dip all (5-6 pouches) day at work, and during these last two weeks I am bringing less dip with me to work so I can start weening myself down. from the routine. Because when my date does come, I don't want it to just go as well. I want to be prepared..

Thanks for all of the support, and I'll try to check back more often if you guys respond. I am always up for a debate as well "Zam."

-Jon (Buffalo, NY)

I hope sM checks in here for your sake Jon. He can explain it better than just about anyone I've seen here. The short of it is: the NRT and weening just don't work, all they do is push you into withdrawl for longer periods of time before you get your fix, they don't help things go better unless by being prepared you mean you want to physical withdrawls to last as long as possible because you enjoy going through the suck. Another point you may already know but I want to be sure it's clear is that KTC is a no nicoting site, you can read intros but don't post roll if you are using nicotine in any form.

As far as having a dip in all day long and even sleeping with one from time to time - I too thought I was a "hardcore" user, all damn day every day. Read some more intros and words of wisdom. I give you my word that neither you or I are the "worst" dippers. For real, there are guys who have used for longer than I've been alive and I'm older than you at 34, there are guys who used over 2 cans a day and some of the things I've read make me say holy shit, that's fucked up and I've done more than my share of fucked up man. Point being - If I can quit, if they can quit, so can you.

As stated, the support is here, when you want it it's here, you've got to be the one to make the first step though. Toss your shit and post your day one and you'll have a ton of first rate quitters at your back. pm me or anyone here if you have questions or need a hand with anything.
mich 34
Ben

[puck4life]

Jon, ask yourself this question, and give yourself a no-bullshit answer: Between now and May 1st, what specifically is going to occur that will increase the likelihood of you will quit using nicotine? Seriously. If you would, post the answer here. I would love to debate. You may be the first person that ever gave a logical, reasonable answer.

I Really do appreciate all of the support you guys have given me, and showing that you care, and really want to help another person in this world quit the SHIT. Even when you call me a pussy, I realize you are just trying to motivate me, and push me.. It has really made me consider, what is going to be different two weeks from now, rather than TODAY.

I am 23, been dipping for 5 years, I am addicted. I'll be the first to admit it. I Dip all day if I am not eating or sleeping (and even fall asleep with it in my mouth). It does have negative effects on me, creates acne that I never had before doing this. And I am just a slave to it, this all not even considering what other people think about me, I wouldn't want to know.

To Zam, this is my first time I am trying to quit, It never even came to me that I should quit the last few years. But after some real soul searching and what I want from my life, this is the right thing to do. I do not want to wait until I am 25, 30, 35, or even 40 to quit doing this shit. Hell, I wouldn't make it until then either I bet.
The way I see things is the more you're prepared the better you'll do. I am watching my parents dog and their house while they are out of town until early May. A lot of down time sitting around their house after work, a lot of freedom, no one criticizing me, etc.. I need the nagging on a daily basis and the support. I understand that's what the forums are for, but I can't keep myself truly accountable by just the forum. They would love to see me quit and help me quit. My father quit smoking after 25 years and hasn't smoked a cig since, and he hates the shit (Dip). He cannot comprehend how I even got on it and I do not try to hide it from him at all. It has gotten too much in the way of my life and negative perceptions - I no longer want whether its from friends/family, etc.

guys, I bet he just wanted some tips on how to quit and you are all being so mean, if I was this guy I think I'd quit later beacuse of all the harsh words and I'd quit on my own because you are all so tough, besides we all know how easy it is to quit on your own. Sarcasm

I did come here looking for some tips other than the obvious that NOW is better than later. Though I have never set a date and never pushed a date yet. And I want to take this serious to prove to many people I can do something right, its the start of a turn around. I was considering trying the patches for a week, or gum or other things, but also cold turkey could work.. I already am a seeder probably like most dippers.

One of the bigger problems is that I dip all (5-6 pouches) day at work, and during these last two weeks I am bringing less dip with me to work so I can start weening myself down. from the routine. Because when my date does come, I don't want it to just go as well. I want to be prepared..

Thanks for all of the support, and I'll try to check back more often if you guys respond. I am always up for a debate as well "Zam."

-Jon (Buffalo, NY)

[mich 34]

guys, I bet he just wanted some tips on how to quit and you are all being so mean, if I was this guy I think I'd quit later beacuse of all the harsh words and I'd quit on my own because you are all so tough, besides we all know how easy it is to quit on your own. Sarcasm

[srans]

Two weeks,,,,, 'crackup' that's funny. How about 4weeks, all that stress may be to much for just two weeks. I don't know shit, lets wait 6 months , that's the ticket. Is this familiar its an addict brain on nicotine. Take your life back Before you talk yourself out of it for life.

[Ajacks23]

The lifestyle associated with dipping has got me isolated mentally. I've only been dipping 5 years and I am absolutely addicted for sure.

I want to quit today, but this next two weeks are going to be very stressful and hell for me. I am just thinking prior to failing and falling back I would like to do it right the first time and get it done rather than prolonging it. (Read the date thing on resources provided).

Thanks for any suggestions, really I just came here to start my commitment to quit.

May 1st, 2013. (You have probably heard it before but I am ready.)

My names Jon, I am 23- and I am from Buffalo NY

You clearly have some desire to quit, you found this site, created a profile, and took the time to write up an intro..All of these things are YOU saying it is time to dump the can and quit

..But then the Nic Bitch chimes in, May 1st, 2013, this is her telling YOU what to do..That is more than TWO fucking weeks away from now.

You showed a moment of strength over the nic bitch, you need to seize this moment and quit while she has her guard down and begin to take control..who knows what your mindset will be TWO weeks from now!

QLFuck

[Diesel2112]

Quit now...who the fuck are we kidding? We all know Damn well this PUSSY wont quit now or probably ever.

The next two weeks are really going to be stressful...why? What's going on?

I have a 10 and 7 year old. The next 20 years of my life are going to be stressful.

Seriously bro. Shit or get off the fucking pot.

I hope you quit but I have a bad feeling I just wated key strokes on a pussy ass bitch