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Re: First time poster, long time dipper. I have some questions.
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2018, 09:31:00 PM »
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Polonium-210 (Po-210) is a radioactive material that occurs naturally in the earthÂ’s crust.

Similar to bananaÂ’s and their affinity for potassium-40, tobacco has an affinity for Polonium. That means that the plant will naturally absorb the nuclide whereas other plants wonÂ’t.

Now here is the interesting part, Po-210 emits alpha particles. Of all the radioactive particles, the alpha particle is the largest, has the highest charge, and does the most biological damage.
Because of its large mass and high charge, it is stopped by the clothes that you wear or even your skin. So itÂ’s a radiation hazard only if it is taken into the body through breathing or eating.

Polonium has a half-life of 138 days. That means that after 138 days, you will still have half of what you just ingested.

Much of Po-210 is passed through feces, although the remaining amounts that enter the bloodstream can concentrate in organs such as the spleen, kidneys, and liver.

And you thought oral cancer was the only risk; think again. You canÂ’t pull your spleen out and look at it to see if youÂ’ve been chewing too much the way you can look at your lip or gums in the mirror.

Ready to spit that dip out and quit for real now?

Sources:
https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/polonium-210.htm
https://www3.epa.gov/radtown/tobacco.html
Great post Athan. Know thine enemy. ItÂ’s key to winning the war.

While fear of bad or even failing health can be a powerful motivator in causing us to contemplate recovery, the human body is a healing machine. If allowed, it mends and repairs.

What if the primary force driving our recovery is an escalating fear flowing from noticeable dependency related harms? What will happen to those fears if nearly all noticeable harms quickly improve after stopping? What will happen to our determination and resolve?

Imagine a white spot on your gum that quickly disappears.

Healing is normally an extremely positive thing. But if recovery is driven almost exclusively by fear of failing health, it can feel like our motivational rug is being pulled out from under us as our primary concerns evaporate before our eyes.

Imagine healing breeding such thoughts as, "I guess dipping hadn't hurt my body as much as I'd thought. I guess it's safe to go back to dipping."

The flip side of fear of declining or poor health is hope for improved health. While it may seem like word games, when packing durable and sustaining motives the distinction could prove critical.

Instead of using fear of failing health as a motivator, imagine recasting those fears into a dream of seeing how healthy your body can once again become.

I quit because I wanted to reduce my blood pressure. I googled high blood pressure and found that nicotine, alcohol, and caffeine all raise it. At the time, I dipped, drank, and drank coffee. I figured, after 38 years, it is time to quit nicotine. Since then, my blood pressure, along with cholesterol, triglycerides, etc., have all come down.

So John, donÂ’t quit to keep from getting a disease. Quit to improve your health. YouÂ’ll find it to be a mere step in a journey to the healthiest possible you.

Unfortunately, you made two posts and left. You may not be back to read the advice and support offered you, but others will see this, and quit using nicotine.
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Re: First time poster, long time dipper. I have some questions.
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2018, 03:20:00 PM »
Polonium-210 (Po-210) is a radioactive material that occurs naturally in the earthÂ’s crust.

Similar to bananaÂ’s and their affinity for potassium-40, tobacco has an affinity for Polonium. That means that the plant will naturally absorb the nuclide whereas other plants wonÂ’t.

Now here is the interesting part, Po-210 emits alpha particles. Of all the radioactive particles, the alpha particle is the largest, has the highest charge, and does the most biological damage.
Because of its large mass and high charge, it is stopped by the clothes that you wear or even your skin. So itÂ’s a radiation hazard only if it is taken into the body through breathing or eating.

Polonium has a half-life of 138 days. That means that after 138 days, you will still have half of what you just ingested.

Much of Po-210 is passed through feces, although the remaining amounts that enter the bloodstream can concentrate in organs such as the spleen, kidneys, and liver.

And you thought oral cancer was the only risk; think again. You canÂ’t pull your spleen out and look at it to see if youÂ’ve been chewing too much the way you can look at your lip or gums in the mirror.

Ready to spit that dip out and quit for real now?

Sources:
https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/polonium-210.htm
https://www3.epa.gov/radtown/tobacco.html
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Re: First time poster, long time dipper. I have some questions.
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2018, 02:15:00 PM »
As for your question, I'd get the fog, mild confusion, short term memory loss symptoms at work if I didn't get a dip in in the morning since I couldn't for the whole 10 hours at work. It seemed like it was withdrawels, which if you are having them in the mornings it makes sense since you didn't dip since the night before, did you recently increase your intake and then decrease it without warning? If you used to always have a night dip before bed and you no longer do, it could just be withdrawels. Now.

I know you know the risks of dipping, nobody thinks its healthy. You gotta nut up when your ready and show the world you're a man. you got kids? you want them doing this shit? Join us on here and we'll make fun of you you make fun of us we rage at you you rage at us, maybe you send me a drunk karaoke video one night I'll send you a picture of a dude fucking a sheep. wierd shit happens, but you can't deny the brotherhood we got here. Now do me a favor and throw out your tin. It was the best decision I've ever made, and it'll be one of the highlights of your life. Or you can go until you get cancer and then quit (hopefully) once they take your jaw or your tongue, or you get throat cancer or stumach ulcers. whatever.

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Re: First time poster, long time dipper. I have some questions.
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2018, 05:48:00 PM »
John,

Tobacco kills. Nicotine addiction kills more people every year than all other addictions combined. There are something like 60+ known carcinogens in smokeless tobacco. If you are looking for anyone here to tell you that dipping is a safe to do, you have come to the wrong place. Deep down you know this.

Now...if you are looking to take your life back from this addiction, you have found the best spot on the internet you could find. Something told you to find this site. Good. Now take the next step - don't think about it. Just quit. Today. Just for today. Each day. Click on the links Big Red provided, post your name, a day 1 and your promise to not use nicotine for the day (or rest of the day) and let's get this quit going.

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Re: First time poster, long time dipper. I have some questions.
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2018, 04:16:00 PM »
Dip will kill you, so STOP DIPPING.
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Re: First time poster, long time dipper. I have some questions.
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2018, 12:33:00 AM »
I haven't quit yet. Are you saying that the brain fog/fatigue type stuff happens while you're dipping? Because I have heard about it happening AFTER you quit. But what about during dipping when you haven't quit yet? Because that is exactly what is happening to me.

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Re: First time poster, long time dipper. I have some questions.
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2018, 12:30:00 AM »
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Hi all.

I have been dipping since the age of 14 and I am 41 now. I have a few questions for you all. Does dipping long term cause any negative bodily symptoms besides oral? Keep in my mind, my mouth is perfect. I've never had a cavity in my whole life and I always get a clean bill of health when i go and get my teeth cleaned every year. However, lately, since January or so, I have been suffering what I'd call lazy brain fog type symptoms that feel almost like when you first wake up every morning along with fatigue. I went to Dr and got a blood test and everything came back fine. The only thing they put me on was Blood Pressure medicines because I was showing a bit of Hypertension. He more or less just said I need more exercise and to be more active and eat better.

So does anyone here know these symptoms above and could dipping snuff be the culprit? I dip maybe a can a day (it can actually last until the next afternoon at times) - I dip Longhorn fine cut snuff. So I just wondering if snuff dipping can cause similar symptoms after long term dipping. Maybe its not agreeing with me anymore and its time to quit. I know its time to quit any time, but I was wanting some input on those particular symptoms and if long term dipping can cause similar symptoms.

Thanks.
WhatÂ’s going on John

All I know is long term bodily damage IÂ’m not sure to be honest. Quitting dip is different for everybody. That fog thing you are experiencing is pretty normal, lots of people here have seen that.

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First time poster, long time dipper. I have some questions.
« on: April 18, 2018, 12:07:00 AM »
Hi all.

I have been dipping since the age of 14 and I am 41 now. I have a few questions for you all. Does dipping long term cause any negative bodily symptoms besides oral? Keep in my mind, my mouth is perfect. I've never had a cavity in my whole life and I always get a clean bill of health when i go and get my teeth cleaned every year. However, lately, since January or so, I have been suffering what I'd call lazy brain fog type symptoms that feel almost like when you first wake up every morning along with fatigue. I went to Dr and got a blood test and everything came back fine. The only thing they put me on was Blood Pressure medicines because I was showing a bit of Hypertension. He more or less just said I need more exercise and to be more active and eat better.

So does anyone here know these symptoms above and could dipping snuff be the culprit? I dip maybe a can a day (it can actually last until the next afternoon at times) - I dip Longhorn fine cut snuff. So I just wondering if snuff dipping can cause similar symptoms after long term dipping. Maybe its not agreeing with me anymore and its time to quit. I know its time to quit any time, but I was wanting some input on those particular symptoms and if long term dipping can cause similar symptoms.

Thanks.