day 2

[Bean]

I didn't check it before or after my quit. I had a physical a few years ago and they didn't mention high bp. As for you...make a will. Just kidding.

[Dr. Bruce Banner]

Yeah, It's weird. What was your reading prior to going to the doctors? How long before quitting did you have normal readings? I kid you not, the week prior to quitting, I was 130/80. Now, I'm getting consistant readings in the mid to high 140's over the mid 80's to high 80's. I thought quitting was supposed to lower my BP, not raise it. This has got me kind of freaked out.

you are going to die..........



Just kidding, part of the quitting process, anxiety builds up when you quit, which causes stress, which cause adrenal glands to produce more adrenalin. Which makes your body go into fight or flight mode...which raises your heart rate, which raises your blood pressure.

masturbate, or go for a walk enjoy all the new oxygen that is getting into your blood system, until your brain rewires itself, you will have these!

I am not a real doctor, but I did sleep in a holiday Inn last night! It will get better......so much better....welcome to the suck!

[Pojack]

Yeah, It's weird. What was your reading prior to going to the doctors? How long before quitting did you have normal readings? I kid you not, the week prior to quitting, I was 130/80. Now, I'm getting consistant readings in the mid to high 140's over the mid 80's to high 80's. I thought quitting was supposed to lower my BP, not raise it. This has got me kind of freaked out.

[Bean]

Generally, I would go with what a doctor recommends over some crap I might come up with, but having said that...

Try controlling your blood pressure with diet and exercise. Elevate your heart rate slightly for 20 minutes 3 times a week...walking will around the block will do it.

Next, eat fruit, veggies and lean protein (fish and baked chicken)...if you're hungry, eat an apple. Still hungry? Eat another.

It is not the most exciting menu, but I guarantee you do that for 90 days will make you lose the weight and lower your blood pressure...and without a pill from a doctor!!!

I've a co-worker with this whole "what doctors aren't telling you" attitude. I wouldn't go that far, but I do think that doctors jump to treat conditions with pills when diet and exercise might be more effective. Besides, doctors and pharmaceutical companies wouldn't make money if their patients followed proper diet and exercise. They'd rather have you buy their pill...any side-effects can be treated with another pill, and on and on...

Give it a try...humans have evolved for thousands of years eating fruits, nuts, veggies and unprocessed protein. But then, Frito Lay, Oreos, transfats, MSG, preservatives and refrigeration weren't really around then. Like I say, give it a try.

(By the way, this doesn't apply if you're a fat-ass who can't walk 10 feet without stopping to rest).

[scooners]

Today is day #21 without tobacco. I'm 33 and dipped kodiak for over 20 years. Prior to quitting, I took my blood pressure, which has always been normal and it was 130/80. This is actually what got me to quit, the fact that the 130 number was a little high and expecting my blood pressure to DROP as a result of quitting. Well, here I am, three weeks later and my blood pressure has been running about 145/85 for the past two weeks and I've seen it get as high as 160/90, what is up with that? I went to the doctor last week and she prescribed me blood pressure pills. I hope my blood pressure drops naturally soon, because I don't want to take BP meds for the rest of my life. I didn't start taking them. I set up another appointment with another doctor that my dad goes to who isn't a pill pusher to see what he thinks. I could lose about 30 pounds...maybe that'll help. Anyone else experience a RISE in blood pressure after quitting dip?

Yes - I had the same thing and even went in for a complete physical. Doc did not prescribe anything for me at the time, just said keep an eye on it. So that is what I am doing. His test two weeks ago was 139/90, now it is 130/85. Like you I could stand to loose about 30 lbs - but not yet.

[Pojack]

Today is day #21 without tobacco. I'm 33 and dipped kodiak for over 20 years. Prior to quitting, I took my blood pressure, which has always been normal and it was 130/80. This is actually what got me to quit, the fact that the 130 number was a little high and expecting my blood pressure to DROP as a result of quitting. Well, here I am, three weeks later and my blood pressure has been running about 145/85 for the past two weeks and I've seen it get as high as 160/90, what is up with that? I went to the doctor last week and she prescribed me blood pressure pills. I hope my blood pressure drops naturally soon, because I don't want to take BP meds for the rest of my life. I didn't start taking them. I set up another appointment with another doctor that my dad goes to who isn't a pill pusher to see what he thinks. I could lose about 30 pounds...maybe that'll help. Anyone else experience a RISE in blood pressure after quitting dip?

[bigduke45123]

Congrats at finding the site. If you want to quit and stay quit the first thing is to quit for YOURSELF. When I quit it was for MYSELF with the help of a lot of supporters. When you get it into your head that the quit is for you it makes it a little easier than to say you're quitting for somebody else. Somebody else is alway secondary you are number 1 in your quit.

Health issues will come and make you think what the hell is going on. First two weeks I got little sores where my dip was plus it was hard to sleep from time to time. After that it got better up until a couple days ago and the blahs have kicked in a little. I am on day 57 but feels like day 3 all over again. You have just stopped a powerful drug that had you by the nuts and doesn't want to let go. If you need anything let me know pm me I will reply back. Go to the homepage and read, read, and read some more every little thing here helps.

Dan

[Bean]

Pojack - welcome to the funk!!!

I also dipped for 20 years...since highschool. Then one day (actually Sept 11) I quit. I had quit before, but I always caved a few days into it. This time was different. It is simple. I found this site, I made a commitment to myself and the folks on here, and I have stayed quit.

Post roll call every day. That is the secret. "Yesterday + 1" is your new motto. Embrace the suck...actually feel the suck and use it as motivation to never do it again.

As I see it, you really don't have a choice. Either death or your own will power will stop you from dipping. If YOU want to quit, YOU will quit.

Congrats on a great decision. Stay on this site and stay quit, brotha!!!

[Pojack]

Thanks RWM. I appreciate the encouragement, and congrats on your 116 days. I know you must feel a lot healthier. I know that I do after only 2 days. Do you have more energy now? BTW, I like the Scripture as your signature, very true.

[RWM]

and I was going to see how long I could go without having a dip.

POjack - welcome to the quit. Read everything, post up in Jan. Keep in mind we don't try, we do. You are either quit or not. You are an addict, so if you are quit, you can't ever have another dip again. If you do, you will be hooked again.

So if you can post, keep your word, repeat - you will beat this thing. I'm a 30 year ex-dipper that just hit 116 days free. It rocks.

[Pojack]

Hey guys, I've been a dipper for 21 years. I'm 33 and have tried to quit once in the past when I was in my mid twenties. That quit lasted for 2 days. Over the last month or so, I've just been feeling like crap in general. Mainly (I think) due to stress at work and not getting enough sleep at night. I woke up the other morning and decided enough was enough. It's not like I had planned on quitting or anything, I just woke up, was about to put my morning dip in my mouth, and decided that I wasn't going to do that and I was going to see how long I could go without having a dip. Well, here we are two days later and I have to say that the "Mint Snuff" has been VERY helpfull. I think I'm more concerned with having a dip in my mouth then the actual effects of nicotine at this point. It has actually feels like I've had a dip in my mouth, and I'm satisfied with that. As far as withdrawal, the only noticible withdrawal is that I'm feeling "the fog". Also, last night, I woke my wife up and began shaking her during a panic episode that lasted about 10 seconds until I actually woke up. My heart was racing and skipping beats. Kinda scary, although it didn't last long at all. Other than that, everything seems to be good. I'm sure I can expect the weight gain, but I'm going to start excersizing daily. Thanks for reading.