Gift to my Daughter

[wildirish317]

At some point Mike, you will realize that you are not only quit, but free from nicotine. I like free. Free to do as I choose, not confined to finding my next fix.

For you, it's freedom to spend more time with your daughter, time that was locked in a cage of nicotine. How much is that freedom worth? How important is your freedom to you?

[Gromo]

I wanna see you win. What they said about quitting for yourself is true...but to me its one of the most annoying sayings on this site. Nobody thinks that its attractive or healthy or cool to dip once they get out of high school. I quit because of a cancer scare, I caved. I quit because of work, I caved...I quit for my wife. I caved...I quit for my wife again...I found this site. I didn't cave...I didn't quit for me...not initially, maybe some people have that strength but I didn't realize until more than a month into my quit how much I hated it. Once I was through that first couple weeks of dragging and clawing wanting it. and then it hit like "Why the fuck did I want this? my teeth are fucked up, I'm constantly afraid of getting cancer at the ripe old age of 27 every time a sore pops up in my mouth, spitters are disgusting, I passed up how many thousands of opportunities to kiss my wife because of this, I've passed up how many hundreds of opportunities to screw my wife because I had to have one last dip before bed, I fucked my mental game up hard and had some serious shit I had to deal with because of this shit, etc, etc, etc" Thats what keeps me quit now, along with the brotherhood, along with my wife, along with my family. What initially made me quit was my wife...that was enough to get me to decide to. Then the brotherhood here is what kept me quit until I realized how much I hated nic. And now that brotherhood and that hatred of nicotine fuel me to the point that I quit for me.

You are where I was and if I can quit one day at a time than so can you. Get your web of accountability up so you're quitting for them too. They help you you help them, you get stronger together...But until you get to that realization point of you Wanna quit for yourself, you damn well better quit for any and every reason you can find. Because eventually her hold will loosen and you will realize you were a prisoner to your addiction, you didn't enjoy it, it just convinced you you liked it. And you will hate that shit with a passion. But until then quit for your daughter if it keeps you quit, quit for your brothers, quit so you don't die, quit so you get to play with your future grandkids, for that matter you don't get that nice little heartbreaking moment of seeing your grandkid stick his tongue in his lip to try to look like grandpa, shit quit so your dog doesn't drink your spitter and vomit all over the house. As long as you find a reason to quit today, I'm happy. I try and line up as many reasons as possible. every layer of defense is one more layer stopping me from picking up that fucking tin.

Call or text if you need help staying quit. Hope I can be a future reason, but for now I can just remind you that your fucking daughter looks up to you and its time to man up so you can be proud and show her what a real man looks like.

Thank you Gromo. I get the logic behind quit for yourself but I know I did it out of selfishness and after watching my Mother fight through cancer and sitting next to her in the cancer center while chemo was pumped into her all the while spitting into a cup like a moron. It felt defiant like somehow I was above the weakness that had her clinging to live. I arrogantly dipped and spit in front of her and her Doctors and it didn't phase me. I don't trust me to motivate my quit, I am too selfish, but my children are my value in the world and my motivation. Never said I was a bright man and I should be strong enough to do it for "myself" but I found my inspiration. 7 days now and no desire to turn back.

7 days is awesome brother, have you joined up in august yet? You put your daughter at the head of priority right? That means you put this quit at the head of your priority, which means you need to do everything and anything to keep quit.

I just want you to know what quitting for your daughter means to me.
You love your daughter.
You love her enough to quit for her.
You need as much help to stay quit for her because you aren't strong enough to quit for yourself YET.
Because if you cave thats saying that you love dip more than your daughter.

Prove to her that she's more important than this can. TELL HER. cause right now if she doesn't know you're quitting for her..than if you cave theres "no harm no foul" except in your head and life expectancy, but that's never mattered before why start now. But if she does know your quitting for her, and she see's you with a dip in...that's gonna crush her. That will keep you quit, picturing how dissappointed she's gonna be in you if you cave. How it'll hurt her to see you fail.

Post your day, grow your brotherhood. You need every reason to stay quit. because sometimes yeah one might be enough, sometimes 20 might not be. but it's that 21st reason...that 121st reason.

I've been where you are at man. I was dipping as my grandfather was being murdered by nicotine slowly and tortuously. In front of my father, casually killing myself with the substance that killed his father. In the hospital as he was actively dying I went outside for a dip. Seconds after he died I put his murderer in my lip.

You have your inspiration, you found your sack, now its time to show your daughter how much you love her and use every tool thats available to you to prove that love. You need your group, you need to post your day, you're like me. We need 1000 reasons to quit and 1000 numbers headed KTC saved on your phone. There's always someone that can help, day or night or 3am. You never know when you are gonna need that phone call to pull you from the ledge.

[Mike J]

I wanna see you win. What they said about quitting for yourself is true...but to me its one of the most annoying sayings on this site. Nobody thinks that its attractive or healthy or cool to dip once they get out of high school. I quit because of a cancer scare, I caved. I quit because of work, I caved...I quit for my wife. I caved...I quit for my wife again...I found this site. I didn't cave...I didn't quit for me...not initially, maybe some people have that strength but I didn't realize until more than a month into my quit how much I hated it. Once I was through that first couple weeks of dragging and clawing wanting it. and then it hit like "Why the fuck did I want this? my teeth are fucked up, I'm constantly afraid of getting cancer at the ripe old age of 27 every time a sore pops up in my mouth, spitters are disgusting, I passed up how many thousands of opportunities to kiss my wife because of this, I've passed up how many hundreds of opportunities to screw my wife because I had to have one last dip before bed, I fucked my mental game up hard and had some serious shit I had to deal with because of this shit, etc, etc, etc" Thats what keeps me quit now, along with the brotherhood, along with my wife, along with my family. What initially made me quit was my wife...that was enough to get me to decide to. Then the brotherhood here is what kept me quit until I realized how much I hated nic. And now that brotherhood and that hatred of nicotine fuel me to the point that I quit for me.

You are where I was and if I can quit one day at a time than so can you. Get your web of accountability up so you're quitting for them too. They help you you help them, you get stronger together...But until you get to that realization point of you Wanna quit for yourself, you damn well better quit for any and every reason you can find. Because eventually her hold will loosen and you will realize you were a prisoner to your addiction, you didn't enjoy it, it just convinced you you liked it. And you will hate that shit with a passion. But until then quit for your daughter if it keeps you quit, quit for your brothers, quit so you don't die, quit so you get to play with your future grandkids, for that matter you don't get that nice little heartbreaking moment of seeing your grandkid stick his tongue in his lip to try to look like grandpa, shit quit so your dog doesn't drink your spitter and vomit all over the house. As long as you find a reason to quit today, I'm happy. I try and line up as many reasons as possible. every layer of defense is one more layer stopping me from picking up that fucking tin.

Call or text if you need help staying quit. Hope I can be a future reason, but for now I can just remind you that your fucking daughter looks up to you and its time to man up so you can be proud and show her what a real man looks like.

Thank you Gromo. I get the logic behind quit for yourself but I know I did it out of selfishness and after watching my Mother fight through cancer and sitting next to her in the cancer center while chemo was pumped into her all the while spitting into a cup like a moron. It felt defiant like somehow I was above the weakness that had her clinging to live. I arrogantly dipped and spit in front of her and her Doctors and it didn't phase me. I don't trust me to motivate my quit, I am too selfish, but my children are my value in the world and my motivation. Never said I was a bright man and I should be strong enough to do it for "myself" but I found my inspiration. 7 days now and no desire to turn back.

[Gromo]

I wanna see you win. What they said about quitting for yourself is true...but to me its one of the most annoying sayings on this site. Nobody thinks that its attractive or healthy or cool to dip once they get out of high school. I quit because of a cancer scare, I caved. I quit because of work, I caved...I quit for my wife. I caved...I quit for my wife again...I found this site. I didn't cave...I didn't quit for me...not initially, maybe some people have that strength but I didn't realize until more than a month into my quit how much I hated it. Once I was through that first couple weeks of dragging and clawing wanting it. and then it hit like "Why the fuck did I want this? my teeth are fucked up, I'm constantly afraid of getting cancer at the ripe old age of 27 every time a sore pops up in my mouth, spitters are disgusting, I passed up how many thousands of opportunities to kiss my wife because of this, I've passed up how many hundreds of opportunities to screw my wife because I had to have one last dip before bed, I fucked my mental game up hard and had some serious shit I had to deal with because of this shit, etc, etc, etc" Thats what keeps me quit now, along with the brotherhood, along with my wife, along with my family. What initially made me quit was my wife...that was enough to get me to decide to. Then the brotherhood here is what kept me quit until I realized how much I hated nic. And now that brotherhood and that hatred of nicotine fuel me to the point that I quit for me.

You are where I was and if I can quit one day at a time than so can you. Get your web of accountability up so you're quitting for them too. They help you you help them, you get stronger together...But until you get to that realization point of you Wanna quit for yourself, you damn well better quit for any and every reason you can find. Because eventually her hold will loosen and you will realize you were a prisoner to your addiction, you didn't enjoy it, it just convinced you you liked it. And you will hate that shit with a passion. But until then quit for your daughter if it keeps you quit, quit for your brothers, quit so you don't die, quit so you get to play with your future grandkids, for that matter you don't get that nice little heartbreaking moment of seeing your grandkid stick his tongue in his lip to try to look like grandpa, shit quit so your dog doesn't drink your spitter and vomit all over the house. As long as you find a reason to quit today, I'm happy. I try and line up as many reasons as possible. every layer of defense is one more layer stopping me from picking up that fucking tin.

Call or text if you need help staying quit. Hope I can be a future reason, but for now I can just remind you that your fucking daughter looks up to you and its time to man up so you can be proud and show her what a real man looks like.

[Idaho Spuds]

Mike, you also need to make sure you’re doing this for yourself. If this is only a “gift for your daughter” you’ll almost certainly fail, as you admit you’ve done over and over again.

This needs to be a gift to yourself because you desperately want to be free. She can be the catalyst that pushes you this point and she can be one of the motivators you use during tough times, but if you donÂ’t really want this for yourself, and are willing to throw everything you have at it, youÂ’re not going to be successful.

Fortunately, you can learn and develop that crucial element. By spending time reflecting, reading and learning, you can develop your desire to be quit. This site has all the tools, you need to be willing to do the work to use them. Post Roll, engage with your Quit group, read the success stories and cautionary tales. Build an accountability network. Put up as many barriers to failure as you possibly can.

This can be done. Reach out if I can help.

What he said! I stopped dip 30 - 40 times for my wife and kids. I only quit once for myself once I was sick of it. See the difference?

^^^ that is what we call quit wood: wood

[Thumblewort]

Welcome.

I see you tried to post roll. Let me offer some help.

Here is our welcome center. Lots of information on the background of the site.

Here is how to post roll. Don't ever worry about screwing up roll. The only way to screw up roll is by not being on roll.

This is background on roll, what it is and why we do it. Posting roll is the backbone of this site, and it's what keeps us quit.

I agree with the others. You have to quit for yourself. Period. That it makes your daughter pleased is a happy side effect. But until you are sick of shredding your lip and gum, until you are sick of spilling spitters, until you are sick of the bad breath, until you are sick of being a slave, you will not be successful. Period.

I never realized how much dip stunk until I quit. I can smell it 10 feet away now.

[RDB]

Welcome.

I see you tried to post roll. Let me offer some help.

Here is our welcome center. Lots of information on the background of the site.

Here is how to post roll. Don't ever worry about screwing up roll. The only way to screw up roll is by not being on roll.

This is background on roll, what it is and why we do it. Posting roll is the backbone of this site, and it's what keeps us quit.

I agree with the others. You have to quit for yourself. Period. That it makes your daughter pleased is a happy side effect. But until you are sick of shredding your lip and gum, until you are sick of spilling spitters, until you are sick of the bad breath, until you are sick of being a slave, you will not be successful. Period.

[Thumblewort]

Mike, you also need to make sure you’re doing this for yourself. If this is only a “gift for your daughter” you’ll almost certainly fail, as you admit you’ve done over and over again.

This needs to be a gift to yourself because you desperately want to be free. She can be the catalyst that pushes you this point and she can be one of the motivators you use during tough times, but if you donÂ’t really want this for yourself, and are willing to throw everything you have at it, youÂ’re not going to be successful.

Fortunately, you can learn and develop that crucial element. By spending time reflecting, reading and learning, you can develop your desire to be quit. This site has all the tools, you need to be willing to do the work to use them. Post Roll, engage with your Quit group, read the success stories and cautionary tales. Build an accountability network. Put up as many barriers to failure as you possibly can.

This can be done. Reach out if I can help.

What he said! I stopped dip 30 - 40 times for my wife and kids. I only quit once for myself once I was sick of it. See the difference?

[pky1520]

Mike, you also need to make sure you’re doing this for yourself. If this is only a “gift for your daughter” you’ll almost certainly fail, as you admit you’ve done over and over again.

This needs to be a gift to yourself because you desperately want to be free. She can be the catalyst that pushes you this point and she can be one of the motivators you use during tough times, but if you donÂ’t really want this for yourself, and are willing to throw everything you have at it, youÂ’re not going to be successful.

Fortunately, you can learn and develop that crucial element. By spending time reflecting, reading and learning, you can develop your desire to be quit. This site has all the tools, you need to be willing to do the work to use them. Post Roll, engage with your Quit group, read the success stories and cautionary tales. Build an accountability network. Put up as many barriers to failure as you possibly can.

This can be done. Reach out if I can help.

[FLLipOut]

Day 4 into my quit. I have wanted to quit on my own for years. 25 total. My ex-wife tried to make it conditional of our marriage that I quit but it was easy to hide from her. I grew up in a smokers house but one stolen cigarette was enough to drive me away. Judgement from others from the smell of cigs on my clothes both teachers and friends/peers alike kept me safe from being tempted to smoke. One friend. One epic high, and years of that comforting call have kept me coming back. 3 times my daughter (my middle child) found my stash and left me notes in them. Once asking, once begging, and once expressing sorrow. I wanted to give my children this gift, this display that as an adult you're in control. Years past with good intentions but No results. Until this year, when I realized she was turning 17 and it was my last opportunity as a parent to gift this to their "child". It has been hell. Lost sleep, missed days of work. Mental roller coaster (not that I was the most stable before). I had to finally draw a picture, a price, an equation. Is the pain worth the gift I gave my daughter. Her piece of mind, My opportunity for Her to feel valued. It's been a shitty 3 days but I'll live them again if My Baby girl keeps her last childhood gift.

Mike, welcome to KTC. You can do this. I won't sugar coat it, it will be a bear for a while, but nothing you can't handle. Go over NOW to August 2018 and post your day 3 there. In the days and weeks ahead, share your digits, post your promises and learn to lean on your brothers in August! It will change your life, I promise!

I was you 648 days ago. 35+ years of nicotine coursing through my veins and rendering me its slave. I am free now and there is nothing like it! PM me if you would like to share digits.

Proud to be quit with you today!

[Mike J]

Day 4 into my quit. I have wanted to quit on my own for years. 25 total. My ex-wife tried to make it conditional of our marriage that I quit but it was easy to hide from her. I grew up in a smokers house but one stolen cigarette was enough to drive me away. Judgement from others from the smell of cigs on my clothes both teachers and friends/peers alike kept me safe from being tempted to smoke. One friend. One epic high, and years of that comforting call have kept me coming back. 3 times my daughter (my middle child) found my stash and left me notes in them. Once asking, once begging, and once expressing sorrow. I wanted to give my children this gift, this display that as an adult you're in control. Years past with good intentions but No results. Until this year, when I realized she was turning 17 and it was my last opportunity as a parent to gift this to their "child". It has been hell. Lost sleep, missed days of work. Mental roller coaster (not that I was the most stable before). I had to finally draw a picture, a price, an equation. Is the pain worth the gift I gave my daughter. Her piece of mind, My opportunity for Her to feel valued. It's been a shitty 3 days but I'll live them again if My Baby girl keeps her last childhood gift.