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Re: Day 4
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2015, 04:50:00 AM »
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Quit and listen, Jerry. Quit and listen.

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Re: Day 4
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2015, 11:48:00 AM »
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Congrats on opening your eyes a bit to what you were doing to yourself. That's the first step. All the above is 100%, dead on good stuff. Take it all to heart. But please allow me to change the course of discussion for a second.

Health issues are an important motivator for quitting. No doubt. But I'd like you to consider another issue, which is like the elephant in the room. Consider it carefully: You are seriously struggling with not using a product, and this is just after a seriously disturbing doctor's visit? Again, the health angle is important....but you have an equally serious issue of CONTROL. You have given control of your life to a leaf and it's marketers. Literally. I'll bet you don't even understand the extent to which dipping and/or coordinating your next dip literally trumps all other aspects of your life. Hell, just re-read your opening post with a view toward the amount of control you have given nicotine - even in the face of cancer. Does THAT not scare you about as much as cancer? I say this because I was not smart enough for "health" issues to motivate me to quit. I had scares, and many of those "OMG, maybe I just pushed it too far and got the big C 'cause there's a sore in my mouth" days. But those scares always ended with the sore going away and me laughing at myself for being so paranoid...and continued slavery.

No, what got me to no-shit hit the bottom and act was the realization that this nicotine CONTROLLED ME. And and anyone gets control of me, it's my wife (and she's trying). Nic told me when to shit. It told me what route to take to work. I told me how to pack. It told me to keep all important conversations short (so I could go dip). Etc. Etc.

You're in a scary time. But in a cold, logical, clinical sense....what is done is done. The question now...the decision to plan for now...may be this: If this turns out to be a cold sore or bit lip or something...what then? You gonna figure out some "safer" way to use nic? You gonna chuckle and promise yourself to only dip on Tuesdays or something? You gonna find a more convenient way (like ecigs) to give up control of you life? What if a cancer cure is found? Don't count on it, but what if vaping turns out to legitimately not be a cancer risk? What then? Are you gonna celebrate your heath by giving control back to nicotine, just in a different form?
UST and their ilk want you health and hooked. UST and other companies don't what you to die of cancer...they want you to have loooooooong healthy life. The more healthy you are, and the more nic required to kill withdrawal symptoms, the better.

Let the health issue motivate you for now. Maybe always let it motivate you. But always keep in the back of your mind that using nicotine is voluntary servitude. Do you want to be nic's bitch? I didn't think so.

Quit on brother. Thanks for letting me rant in your intro!
Very powerful shit! Thanks and take heed ,this is a common issue around ktc, sore throat, sores in mouth etc., come sign up ,post roll, find out a week later all good , gone and most of the time forgotten, but not always! Quit on!
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Re: Day 4
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2015, 11:14:00 AM »
Congrats on opening your eyes a bit to what you were doing to yourself. That's the first step. All the above is 100%, dead on good stuff. Take it all to heart. But please allow me to change the course of discussion for a second.

Health issues are an important motivator for quitting. No doubt. But I'd like you to consider another issue, which is like the elephant in the room. Consider it carefully: You are seriously struggling with not using a product, and this is just after a seriously disturbing doctor's visit? Again, the health angle is important....but you have an equally serious issue of CONTROL. You have given control of your life to a leaf and it's marketers. Literally. I'll bet you don't even understand the extent to which dipping and/or coordinating your next dip literally trumps all other aspects of your life. Hell, just re-read your opening post with a view toward the amount of control you have given nicotine - even in the face of cancer. Does THAT not scare you about as much as cancer? I say this because I was not smart enough for "health" issues to motivate me to quit. I had scares, and many of those "OMG, maybe I just pushed it too far and got the big C 'cause there's a sore in my mouth" days. But those scares always ended with the sore going away and me laughing at myself for being so paranoid...and continued slavery.

No, what got me to no-shit hit the bottom and act was the realization that this nicotine CONTROLLED ME. And and anyone gets control of me, it's my wife (and she's trying). Nic told me when to shit. It told me what route to take to work. I told me how to pack. It told me to keep all important conversations short (so I could go dip). Etc. Etc.

You're in a scary time. But in a cold, logical, clinical sense....what is done is done. The question now...the decision to plan for now...may be this: If this turns out to be a cold sore or bit lip or something...what then? You gonna figure out some "safer" way to use nic? You gonna chuckle and promise yourself to only dip on Tuesdays or something? You gonna find a more convenient way (like ecigs) to give up control of you life? What if a cancer cure is found? Don't count on it, but what if vaping turns out to legitimately not be a cancer risk? What then? Are you gonna celebrate your heath by giving control back to nicotine, just in a different form?
UST and their ilk want you health and hooked. UST and other companies don't what you to die of cancer...they want you to have loooooooong healthy life. The more healthy you are, and the more nic required to kill withdrawal symptoms, the better.

Let the health issue motivate you for now. Maybe always let it motivate you. But always keep in the back of your mind that using nicotine is voluntary servitude. Do you want to be nic's bitch? I didn't think so.

Quit on brother. Thanks for letting me rant in your intro!
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Re: Day 4
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2015, 10:57:00 AM »
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My advice is post roll and reach out to anyone, I mean anyone on here. I quit with you.

Post roll, get contact numbers. Communicate. You will be thankful.
Excellent job posting roll!

Today you've made a promise to yourself and everyone here that you will be nicotine free. It is clear from your posts that you are a man of your word, so doesn't it feel great to have the weight off your shoulders for today? HELL YES

if you need anything, this community is here to help! Reach out... And WIN! Welcome aboard!
Hell yes! ODAAT! EDD! let's do this! Damn proud of you!
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Re: Day 4
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2015, 10:08:00 AM »
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My advice is post roll and reach out to anyone, I mean anyone on here. I quit with you.

Post roll, get contact numbers. Communicate. You will be thankful.
Excellent job posting roll!

Today you've made a promise to yourself and everyone here that you will be nicotine free. It is clear from your posts that you are a man of your word, so doesn't it feel great to have the weight off your shoulders for today? HELL YES

if you need anything, this community is here to help! Reach out... And WIN! Welcome aboard!

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Re: Day 4
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2015, 09:55:00 AM »
My advice is post roll and reach out to anyone, I mean anyone on here. I quit with you.

Post roll, get contact numbers. Communicate. You will be thankful.
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Re: Day 4
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2015, 06:44:00 AM »
Welcome jerry! It gets better man. Get over to January '16 and join us for roll call every day. Remember how you feel right now and use that toward your quit. Remember how you never want to do this again, never want to go through the suck again.

Think of it is way. You may be one chew away from the cancer that will take your face. You might be one chew short of losing your life. Don't even consider that poison again.....lean on your brothers here. You made the right choice.....now you need to commit for yourself.

Hope to see you around!!!!
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Re: Day 4
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2015, 02:33:00 AM »
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Jerry, take a deep breath. Exhale. OK, now for the advice:

If you are on day 4, the nicotine is out of your system. Now you face two things: triggers for dip (eg, making food) and oral fixation. You might look at nicotine free fake dips (Smokey Mountain is at Walmart) to stay quit as you go forward. Some use seeds or jerky, or even candy. This will help a bit.

Drink lots of water, cranberry juice can help as well. Exercise a bunch. Cut back on coffee (caffeine has more impact w/o nicotine).

Then, go to the January 2016 quit group and post roll -- your promise to yourself and everyone that you will not use nicotine for 24 hours. Post roll every day with the "Dogs" (Defenders of Gums is what they call themselves, you will get to 100 days quit along with them).

Exchange digits with these quitters, build a support network.

Read on this site, words of wisdom, hall of fame speeches, intros. They can help you through tough times.

For right now, you could put a cotton ball where you would put dip to hold you long enough to get something to eat.

You can get through this, and you won't be alone.

I quit with you today.
Jerry your an addict and nicotine is a very powerful drug. We're all addicts here. Learn to take back control of your life. The nic has you freaking out, that's the way it works. So you're telling me it has so much power over you that you can't eat. Get pissed at me if you want but here goes, you're a grown ass man, grab your sac and kick the nic bitch in the teeth! This shit will kill you in more ways than cancer! Get you some fake tobacco, post roll and get this shit done! If you want to do this, you damn well can. Pm me for my number, I will stand toe to toe with you if that's what it takes for you to save your own life!
Hi Jerry. For 25 years I didn't think it was possible to take a shower, drive to work, or eat lunch with dip. Today I did all three... And didn't think about it at all! Nicotine is as addictive as heroine. No lie! But you don't need it! What you are feeling now, I promise you, is not what life as a quitter is like. Have you seen shawshank redemption? You are crawling through the sewer pipe right now buddy. But there is a freedom ahead that you cannot imagine. Like the stomach flu, this misery will pass. It might take a little time, but nicotine does not own you... It did... But it doesn't any more.

Two of the legends on this site posted right above me and offered their number. If I were you, I'd grab that offer. And I for sure would post roll. Every day. This process works. It sounds ridiculous to post roll on some website and trade phone numbers with guys named Pab or Nomore that you've never heard of. I know... Cause I thought the same thing 1,034 days ago. Now I'm a believer and I'm free!

Welcome aboard. And heed our advice....
You've gotten the best advice from some of the strongest quitters here..... Listen to it. Like NoMore said, the Nic is out of your body. You are dealing with mind games now. Everytime you deny the crave, You become stronger and your craves will become weaker. We quit one day at a time here. Don't worry about the future. Focus of overcoming each crave as needed. Be a man and keep the freedom you are reclaiming right now. There are great days ahead of you if you only stay the course. The Shawshank redemption reference may be the best way I've ever heard the suck explained. Quit on.

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Re: Day 4
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2015, 08:59:00 PM »
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Jerry, take a deep breath. Exhale. OK, now for the advice:

If you are on day 4, the nicotine is out of your system. Now you face two things: triggers for dip (eg, making food) and oral fixation. You might look at nicotine free fake dips (Smokey Mountain is at Walmart) to stay quit as you go forward. Some use seeds or jerky, or even candy. This will help a bit.

Drink lots of water, cranberry juice can help as well. Exercise a bunch. Cut back on coffee (caffeine has more impact w/o nicotine).

Then, go to the January 2016 quit group and post roll -- your promise to yourself and everyone that you will not use nicotine for 24 hours. Post roll every day with the "Dogs" (Defenders of Gums is what they call themselves, you will get to 100 days quit along with them).

Exchange digits with these quitters, build a support network.

Read on this site, words of wisdom, hall of fame speeches, intros. They can help you through tough times.

For right now, you could put a cotton ball where you would put dip to hold you long enough to get something to eat.

You can get through this, and you won't be alone.

I quit with you today.
Jerry your an addict and nicotine is a very powerful drug. We're all addicts here. Learn to take back control of your life. The nic has you freaking out, that's the way it works. So you're telling me it has so much power over you that you can't eat. Get pissed at me if you want but here goes, you're a grown ass man, grab your sac and kick the nic bitch in the teeth! This shit will kill you in more ways than cancer! Get you some fake tobacco, post roll and get this shit done! If you want to do this, you damn well can. Pm me for my number, I will stand toe to toe with you if that's what it takes for you to save your own life!
Hi Jerry. For 25 years I didn't think it was possible to take a shower, drive to work, or eat lunch with dip. Today I did all three... And didn't think about it at all! Nicotine is as addictive as heroine. No lie! But you don't need it! What you are feeling now, I promise you, is not what life as a quitter is like. Have you seen shawshank redemption? You are crawling through the sewer pipe right now buddy. But there is a freedom ahead that you cannot imagine. Like the stomach flu, this misery will pass. It might take a little time, but nicotine does not own you... It did... But it doesn't any more.

Two of the legends on this site posted right above me and offered their number. If I were you, I'd grab that offer. And I for sure would post roll. Every day. This process works. It sounds ridiculous to post roll on some website and trade phone numbers with guys named Pab or Nomore that you've never heard of. I know... Cause I thought the same thing 1,034 days ago. Now I'm a believer and I'm free!

Welcome aboard. And heed our advice....

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Re: Day 4
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2015, 07:59:00 PM »
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Jerry, take a deep breath. Exhale. OK, now for the advice:

If you are on day 4, the nicotine is out of your system. Now you face two things: triggers for dip (eg, making food) and oral fixation. You might look at nicotine free fake dips (Smokey Mountain is at Walmart) to stay quit as you go forward. Some use seeds or jerky, or even candy. This will help a bit.

Drink lots of water, cranberry juice can help as well. Exercise a bunch. Cut back on coffee (caffeine has more impact w/o nicotine).

Then, go to the January 2016 quit group and post roll -- your promise to yourself and everyone that you will not use nicotine for 24 hours. Post roll every day with the "Dogs" (Defenders of Gums is what they call themselves, you will get to 100 days quit along with them).

Exchange digits with these quitters, build a support network.

Read on this site, words of wisdom, hall of fame speeches, intros. They can help you through tough times.

For right now, you could put a cotton ball where you would put dip to hold you long enough to get something to eat.

You can get through this, and you won't be alone.

I quit with you today.
Jerry your an addict and nicotine is a very powerful drug. We're all addicts here. Learn to take back control of your life. The nic has you freaking out, that's the way it works. So you're telling me it has so much power over you that you can't eat. Get pissed at me if you want but here goes, you're a grown ass man, grab your sac and kick the nic bitch in the teeth! This shit will kill you in more ways than cancer! Get you some fake tobacco, post roll and get this shit done! If you want to do this, you damn well can. Pm me for my number, I will stand toe to toe with you if that's what it takes for you to save your own life!
Tobacco is so addictive it took me a year after a massive heart attack, in which doctor confirmed caused from dipping to finally put a lid on the bitch! ODAAT EDD

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Re: Day 4
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2015, 05:47:00 PM »
Jerry, take a deep breath. Exhale. OK, now for the advice:

If you are on day 4, the nicotine is out of your system. Now you face two things: triggers for dip (eg, making food) and oral fixation. You might look at nicotine free fake dips (Smokey Mountain is at Walmart) to stay quit as you go forward. Some use seeds or jerky, or even candy. This will help a bit.

Drink lots of water, cranberry juice can help as well. Exercise a bunch. Cut back on coffee (caffeine has more impact w/o nicotine).

Then, go to the January 2016 quit group and post roll -- your promise to yourself and everyone that you will not use nicotine for 24 hours. Post roll every day with the "Dogs" (Defenders of Gums is what they call themselves, you will get to 100 days quit along with them).

Exchange digits with these quitters, build a support network.

Read on this site, words of wisdom, hall of fame speeches, intros. They can help you through tough times.

For right now, you could put a cotton ball where you would put dip to hold you long enough to get something to eat.

You can get through this, and you won't be alone.

I quit with you today.

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Day 4
« on: October 23, 2015, 05:35:00 PM »
So I went to the dentist on Monday and the doctors over there think I might have pre cancer on my gums. So I decided to quit in hopes to prevent this cancer. I'm on day 4 right now and this is really hard. For me it's a little bit different. I don't really crave it I don't really want it or anything. BUT.. When I'm doing things that I usually do when I'm dipping I freak out. It's like my normal life is gone and my normal routine is different now. I can't do any of the things that trigger this crave. I haven't ate in 2 days because I'm so used to my brain saying ok you need your fix eat something and you can pack a dip. Like i don't know when I'm hungry anymore because I'm so used to my fix letting me know when it's time. Thanks for listening and I'm sure I will quit I will never go back EVER!!