Back to take my lumps.

[stillbrewing]

No roll post today.

Figures.

Maybe he’ll “try” later…

Yup, makes the title of this intro pretty ironic. So much for facing the music....

Pretty sure he only likes the sound of being quit. Hopefully he wakes up before cancer wins the war.

He's up today in September 21.  Still needs to answer those questions...

[Keith0617]

No roll post today.

Figures.

Maybe he’ll “try” later…

Yup, makes the title of this intro pretty ironic. So much for facing the music....

Pretty sure he only likes the sound of being quit. Hopefully he wakes up before cancer wins the war.

[MN_Engineer]

No roll post today.

Figures.

Maybe he’ll “try” later…

Yup, makes the title of this intro pretty ironic. So much for facing the music....

[AppleJack]

No roll post today.

Figures.

Maybe he’ll “try” later…

[Stranger999]

This is the hardest thing I have ever done, but I know its the only way for this to work. I was quit for a long time thanks to help from KTC and then I got selfish and thought I could continue all on my own. I made it three more months before I caved and gave into the addiction again. I have tried several times since to quit but it never took, I knew I needed to get back here for the accountability, but I was scared about the reaction from my previous quit group. Well enough is enough and it's time to start posting roll again. Here I am a broken man ready to quit. Day 8.

One day at a time.  That works.  And it works better if you have support from other quitters that you've connected with.  You didn't stay here and you didn't stay quit.  Is this your last day 8?

[macattack]

Sooooo, this is the 3rd go 'round here, eh?

I'll be the asshole... you shouldn't be here.
This isn't a "try" site. You should know that already having been here off and on since 2014. Or maybe not... you didn't stick around either time so what's going to be different about this time?

Trying again and again has zero merit, integrity, or guts. The "try" mentality taints the effort everyone is putting in to get it done and win. Again, I don't think you should be allowed to "try" again buuuut I don't get to decide. So... own it.

I wouldn't recommend "trying" skydiving, the same way you've "tried" to quit @Gauth05

[AppleJack]

Sooooo, this is the 3rd go 'round here, eh?

I'll be the asshole... you shouldn't be here.
This isn't a "try" site. You should know that already having been here off and on since 2014. Or maybe not... you didn't stick around either time so what's going to be different about this time?

Trying again and again has zero merit, integrity, or guts. The "try" mentality taints the effort everyone is putting in to get it done and win. Again, I don't think you should be allowed to "try" again buuuut I don't get to decide. So... own it.

[MN_Engineer]

oh boy @Gauth05...

I found your old intro. Please re-read it and use it as fuel to make this stoppage your one and only QUIT.

Each quitter is allowed only one intro. Please use this one going to blog your quit journey.

[Addictx3]

Well, you know the deal... give us info on what happened, why, and what you are going to do to prevent it next time.

Looks like you were here in 2014, then again in 2017. I don't see a roll post past day 24, but I didn't dig too deep.

I know all too well the mind games we play with ourselves. I don't know if your "quit for a long time" was 3 years or 3 months, or 3 weeks. But you didn't quit, you just stopped for a while. I used to stop all the time. I'd take a month off here and there, then decide I was all better and could use just a little responsibly... then before i knew it, 9 months or a year had slipped by.

I finally made it to 100 days recently, and all it has taught me is that I am not ok at all. I'm as close to going to buy a can today as I was on day 10.

So anyway, find your group, log your quit date in your own calendar, and buckle the fuck up. This shit is not going to be easy. You know that.

Looks like your quit date would be 6-17-21 or so, so that would put you in september... https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=17074.0

Get in there and post roll today.... right now.

[Weedsta]

Brother I am glad you are back home...always here to help...make sure you answer the 3 questions once you post roll in your new group...you know this process works if you WUPP EDD!  Let's get after it!

[Gauth05]

This is the hardest thing I have ever done, but I know its the only way for this to work. I was quit for a long time thanks to help from KTC and then I got selfish and thought I could continue all on my own. I made it three more months before I caved and gave into the addiction again. I have tried several times since to quit but it never took, I knew I needed to get back here for the accountability, but I was scared about the reaction from my previous quit group. Well enough is enough and it's time to start posting roll again. Here I am a broken man ready to quit. Day 8.

[GlockTherapy]

Gauth, what happened last time that you only needed post 24 days before you didn't need KTC anymore? I know you said you didn't trust the process, but what was it about the process? Also, how are you going to put action to words this time when you say you are going to trust the process this time?

It really just came down to thinking I was strong enough on my own to keep my quit going and because of that I thought I had the start I needed. I now understand that once an addict always an addict. There will be constant temptation and situations where you set yourself up to fail if you don't have a support system. I see now the importance of communicating with others who have been there and done that. I will post and communicate everyday for the rest of my life because I believe this works.

Don't worry about the rest of your life. Just worry about today. You might remember one day at a time (ODAAT). What I'm still not seeing in your post is HOW you're going to do it differently this time. You say things like "I now understand that once an addict always an addict" and "I see now the importance of communicating." Not to get college English nerdy on you, but these aren't action phrases. These are passive that show you understand what's going on, but not that you're doing something to make this happen for yourself.

So, how?

First things first, my tin has been flushed. Secondly, I am going to post roll everyday. Third I am going to seek out help and advice when I am craving bad or things are rough. Finally, I am going to try and not use any substitute chew this time, but am prepared to use some natural mint if needed.

This is a start. I would encourage you, however, to not wait until you're "craving bad or things are rough" to reach out to your brethren. You want to make sure that you've established that brotherhood before you're craving badly. That way when you reach out, you'll know not only to whom you should reach out, but also that said quitter will be there for you. Get some numbers now and get to know those guys/gals. The more you invest, the more you'll get back.

Hey Gauth,

I am in the same boat as you are. I "stopped" for awhile back in 2013. I, like you, didn't "believe" in the system (really though - I didn't want the accountability.) but now I'm on Day 12. It sucks. I'm not using any fake stuff either because it makes me want the real stuff more. So, good choice not doing the fake chew. Our way obviously didn't work. So let's go with what we have seen work - KTC.

[KingNothing]

Gauth, what happened last time that you only needed post 24 days before you didn't need KTC anymore? I know you said you didn't trust the process, but what was it about the process? Also, how are you going to put action to words this time when you say you are going to trust the process this time?

It really just came down to thinking I was strong enough on my own to keep my quit going and because of that I thought I had the start I needed. I now understand that once an addict always an addict. There will be constant temptation and situations where you set yourself up to fail if you don't have a support system. I see now the importance of communicating with others who have been there and done that. I will post and communicate everyday for the rest of my life because I believe this works.

Don't worry about the rest of your life. Just worry about today. You might remember one day at a time (ODAAT). What I'm still not seeing in your post is HOW you're going to do it differently this time. You say things like "I now understand that once an addict always an addict" and "I see now the importance of communicating." Not to get college English nerdy on you, but these aren't action phrases. These are passive that show you understand what's going on, but not that you're doing something to make this happen for yourself.

So, how?

First things first, my tin has been flushed. Secondly, I am going to post roll everyday. Third I am going to seek out help and advice when I am craving bad or things are rough. Finally, I am going to try and not use any substitute chew this time, but am prepared to use some natural mint if needed.

This is a start. I would encourage you, however, to not wait until you're "craving bad or things are rough" to reach out to your brethren. You want to make sure that you've established that brotherhood before you're craving badly. That way when you reach out, you'll know not only to whom you should reach out, but also that said quitter will be there for you. Get some numbers now and get to know those guys/gals. The more you invest, the more you'll get back.

[Gauth05]

Gauth, what happened last time that you only needed post 24 days before you didn't need KTC anymore? I know you said you didn't trust the process, but what was it about the process? Also, how are you going to put action to words this time when you say you are going to trust the process this time?

It really just came down to thinking I was strong enough on my own to keep my quit going and because of that I thought I had the start I needed. I now understand that once an addict always an addict. There will be constant temptation and situations where you set yourself up to fail if you don't have a support system. I see now the importance of communicating with others who have been there and done that. I will post and communicate everyday for the rest of my life because I believe this works.

Don't worry about the rest of your life. Just worry about today. You might remember one day at a time (ODAAT). What I'm still not seeing in your post is HOW you're going to do it differently this time. You say things like "I now understand that once an addict always an addict" and "I see now the importance of communicating." Not to get college English nerdy on you, but these aren't action phrases. These are passive that show you understand what's going on, but not that you're doing something to make this happen for yourself.

So, how?

First things first, my tin has been flushed. Secondly, I am going to post roll everyday. Third I am going to seek out help and advice when I am craving bad or things are rough. Finally, I am going to try and not use any substitute chew this time, but am prepared to use some natural mint if needed.

[cbird65]

Gauth, what happened last time that you only needed post 24 days before you didn't need KTC anymore? I know you said you didn't trust the process, but what was it about the process? Also, how are you going to put action to words this time when you say you are going to trust the process this time?

It really just came down to thinking I was strong enough on my own to keep my quit going and because of that I thought I had the start I needed. I now understand that once an addict always an addict. There will be constant temptation and situations where you set yourself up to fail if you don't have a support system. I see now the importance of communicating with others who have been there and done that. I will post and communicate everyday for the rest of my life because I believe this works.

Face the wheel time -- copy and paste these into Apr 2017 and your old group if you haven't already

(1) What happened?

(2) Why did it happen?

(3) What are you going to do differently

would strongly suggest you put some thought into these answers