New around here

[theo3wood]

And sure enough.  Shocker.  Another faggidy newb getting all offended.  Whahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.  You guys are dicks.  Whahhhhh your support sucks.

Blah blah blah.

Fuck yourself.

So, the new guy doesn't understand how things work around here and gets offended when people he has never met respond to an intro post giving him shit about everything and then takes things the wrong way. And then you call me a faggidy newb for it, and then tell me to go fuck myself. How, exactly, am I supposed to know the personalities of everyone here if I'm new? Awesome support structure.

Skaol Monster sent me a very good e-mail last after things got out of hand, and I respect him greatly for the fact he sent me one and what he said in it. I was ready to handle the quit on my own after yesterday and never come back here, but after reading when SM had to say I'm giving this place another try.

I trashed the 'safety can'. I'll do my roll calls. I'll stay quit because I've decided that is what I want and what I want to give my family. I can take the strong personality of others, now that I know what to expect. But, FtheKodiak, you can go to hell.

We are all glad to have you here, Brother!!

THAT'S what I'm talkin' bout!!!

'clap' 'clap' 'clap'

[GlennFtheKodiak]

And sure enough.  Shocker.  Another faggidy newb getting all offended.  Whahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.  You guys are dicks.  Whahhhhh your support sucks.

Blah blah blah.

Fuck yourself.

So, the new guy doesn't understand how things work around here and gets offended when people he has never met respond to an intro post giving him shit about everything and then takes things the wrong way. And then you call me a faggidy newb for it, and then tell me to go fuck myself. How, exactly, am I supposed to know the personalities of everyone here if I'm new? Awesome support structure.

Skaol Monster sent me a very good e-mail last after things got out of hand, and I respect him greatly for the fact he sent me one and what he said in it. I was ready to handle the quit on my own after yesterday and never come back here, but after reading when SM had to say I'm giving this place another try.

I trashed the 'safety can'. I'll do my roll calls. I'll stay quit because I've decided that is what I want and what I want to give my family. I can take the strong personality of others, now that I know what to expect. But, FtheKodiak, you can go to hell.

Why is it that SM has to send you a special e-mail to explain it to you? Nothing to do with personalities. Read the first two responses again, they weren't that bad. Strong, but fairly respectful. So you have to get your little hand held and back massaged for you to understand? What a fag.

[niwot]

And sure enough.  Shocker.  Another faggidy newb getting all offended.  Whahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.  You guys are dicks.  Whahhhhh your support sucks.

Blah blah blah.

Fuck yourself.

So, the new guy doesn't understand how things work around here and gets offended when people he has never met respond to an intro post giving him shit about everything and then takes things the wrong way. And then you call me a faggidy newb for it, and then tell me to go fuck myself. How, exactly, am I supposed to know the personalities of everyone here if I'm new? Awesome support structure.

Skaol Monster sent me a very good e-mail last after things got out of hand, and I respect him greatly for the fact he sent me one and what he said in it. I was ready to handle the quit on my own after yesterday and never come back here, but after reading when SM had to say I'm giving this place another try.

I trashed the 'safety can'. I'll do my roll calls. I'll stay quit because I've decided that is what I want and what I want to give my family. I can take the strong personality of others, now that I know what to expect. But, FtheKodiak, you can go to hell.

We are all glad to have you here, Brother!!

[Dudaman]

And sure enough.  Shocker.  Another faggidy newb getting all offended.  Whahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.  You guys are dicks.  Whahhhhh your support sucks.

Blah blah blah.

Fuck yourself.

So, the new guy doesn't understand how things work around here and gets offended when people he has never met respond to an intro post giving him shit about everything and then takes things the wrong way. And then you call me a faggidy newb for it, and then tell me to go fuck myself. How, exactly, am I supposed to know the personalities of everyone here if I'm new? Awesome support structure.

Skaol Monster sent me a very good e-mail last after things got out of hand, and I respect him greatly for the fact he sent me one and what he said in it. I was ready to handle the quit on my own after yesterday and never come back here, but after reading when SM had to say I'm giving this place another try.

I trashed the 'safety can'. I'll do my roll calls. I'll stay quit because I've decided that is what I want and what I want to give my family. I can take the strong personality of others, now that I know what to expect. But, FtheKodiak, you can go to hell.

[Mikey]

This world is full of too many people easily offended by the truth. Get over the comments that you believe are hurtful and move on with your quit. It is too easy to get upset over someone who is trying to help you quit.

[Smokeyg]

Shit.

A post further down on this thread actually led me to typing "John Holmes Cock" into Google.

Shit.

[Skoal Monster]

New quitter post after yours

Chewing Bacc-Off to help with the oral fixation. Find myself eating everything in sight. At the daze period still, and tired as hell. I quit for 90 days last year and gave in on a 10 hour road trip. Oh well!

My earlier post

Your addicted brain will try to outsmart the rational part that wants to quit. This is where people say I had just one because my girlfriends grandma died and I had a flat after a really long road trip after getting fired because I got divorced after I had a stressful operation during a fishing trip, cuz I was drunk.. blah blah blah.

Just sayin . I actually get it.

I don't think your a tool. I do think your an addict. If you want some snuggle lovin this isn't the place. If you want some no bullshit truth and help quitting nicotine, then yeah your in the right spot.

In case you still think Im a douche, check this out from whyquit.com

"I'm going to have to carry
cigarettes with me at all times
for me to quit smoking."



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I hear this comment almost every time I start a new clinic. The smoker truly believes that if he does not have cigarettes with him, he will not succeed in quitting. His reasoning for carrying cigarettes is that he has to show himself that he is stronger than the cigarettes, or that if he is faced with some traumatic stress he will need a cigarette to survive through the situation. Both of these beliefs carry serious implications, which almost guarantee failure at permanent cessation from cigarettes.
The first hypothesis-that the smoker must show he is stronger than the cigarette-assumes that the smoker believes he is stronger than his cigarettes. This is the gravest mistake the smoker can make. He is not stronger than his addiction. The day he admits this fact will be the day he has a fighting chance at quitting, the day he forgets it will be the day he again is caught in the grip of addiction.
If he were stronger, he would have been smoking one or two cigarettes a day whenever he wanted. But by the time he enrolled in our clinic he was probably smoking twenty to thirty times that amount. If he were stronger than cigarettes, he would never have showed his face in a smoking clinic. He would have just stopped. But at the time he joined, he recognized he was not in control. He was probably out of control for many years. And as with any other addictive drug, he would never be in control again. Once he forgets that cigarettes controlled him, he will probably smoke his first cigarette. That will be a tragic day when he relapses into his past addiction and he may never be able to muster the strength necessary to break free from cigarettes again.
The second idea-that cigarettes are essential to overcome life's traumas-will almost certainly result in smoking within days of trying to stop. No matter how thorough the smoker is at planning a tranquil period when stress is at a minimum, stress will occur. With cigarettes present, one is sure to be taken. Even if he overcomes that one situation, the idea that cigarettes are capable of making life bearable is a false and dangerous belief.
The smoker feels he needs cigarettes to function properly in our world. Then he takes it one step further, he begins to believe that he will not only be less effective at functioning, he will be totally incapable of surviving. He is giving up the substance that makes life possible. With this belief present, he has about as good a chance of giving up smoking as he has of giving up breathing or eating. If cigarettes are essential to maintain life, quitting is a futile effort. But this is just not true. Everything a smoker can do with cigarettes he can do without them, but he will not learn this or believe it until he successfully quits and starts dealing with life without smoking.
Don't ever forget how cigarettes once controlled your behaviors and beliefs. When you quit smoking you admitted cigarettes controlled you. You were literally afraid that one puff could put you back. That was not an irrational fear. One puff today will lead to the same tragic results as it would have the day you quit. Cigarettes were stronger than you before, and, if given the chance, will be stronger than you again. If you want to show you are now in control, do it by admitting you can function without having cigarettes as a worthless and dangerous crutch. To permanently stay free from cigarettes, all that needs to be done is to NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!


Last Edited By: FreedomNicotine 03/15/09 11:00. Edited 1 time.

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Here is the thread if you want it . its a good read as far as "keeping a pack" which is no different than keeping a can.

http://www.ffn.yuku.com/topic/22987

ok now I'm done, best of luck

sM

[GlennFtheKodiak]

I don't understand where all of this hostility is coming from. Does nobody believe that I've actually quit? Do you think me an imposter? Do I have to follow specific rules in order for me to officially quit and if I don't follow those rules I can't say I've quit?

I don't get it. Every person is different and handles their quit differently. That can I have at work is NOT a safety can. You know, I could try to explain why I believe that can is still there, but you wouldn't believe me. You would call me a tool and berate me.

I came here to be a part of a group of people who are going through what I am, and all I get is a load of bullshit telling me that I'm not good enough to join the ranks... that I'm not doing it right.

I got a lot of good information from the pages of Killthecan.org. I was able to brace myself for the road ahead by knowing what expect from withdraw symptoms and the like. I was really liking this place. However, I'm really glad I didn't start coming to the forums earlier than now looking for support.

ahhhh Dudaman, you mistake my hostility for lack of support. Your quit today and that is good enough for me. I merely wanted to point out a opening in your defenses. Heres the deal;

The safety can is a open invitation to cave, I'm not pissed at you for having one at all, but I know that this reduces your chance of success dramatically. Im hostile because I DONT want to see you fail. Its the addiction I'm angry out not you.

Same thing goes for not posting roll, I know with 100% certainty that the support you would gain in posting daily would dramatically improve your chances of success. I don't want to see you fall victim to your own rationalizations. I get pissed only because this is such a common excuse.

Your an addict, just like me. This isn't an attack but a truth. there is no difference between us and a heroin addict except our choice of drug. As addicts we will lie, cheat , beg , borrow and steal to satisfy our habits. A common thread in addiction behavior is that the addict will try to justify using. Your addicted brain will try to outsmart the rational part that wants to quit. This is where people say I had just one because my girlfriends grandma died and I had a flat after a really long road trip after getting fired because I got divorced after I had a stressful operation during a fishing trip, cuz I was drunk.. blah blah blah.

All that shit is an excuse to dip. Now thats the obvious mind games . The less obvious are the ones where we eliminate the things that keep us quit. Such as

"I don't think I can post every day." There was a quitter that literally walked miles thru a snowstorm back to his truck to post. Another that posted from a hospital bed, another that posts from Iraq on an active tour. Another that posts from his phone, another that posted from a mental ward. Another that.........

Your internal addict knows this place will keep you quit if you embrace it, if your "using the site" as you say then you know the power of posting roll. Again my hostility is only toward the illusions that addiction creates not an attack on you. I know you think you got it by the balls, but you have no tools to beat it back yet. I don't want anybody to use that shit. I applaud you that you've made it this far. Weigh your 20 years of dipping against your 30 days. Your far from home.

I would beg you to post roll to save your life if it'd help, I'd also kick you in the ass. I'd also answer the phone when your sitting in the parking lot of the 7-11 at midnight and talk you out of it. But for that you have to post your pledge to stay quit today. So all I can do for you is offer up some experience gained from those that came this way before me and from what I've seen. Keep the quit.

sM

You know something, I read Theo's and SM's posts 3x before I responded, but still thought to myself, "I wonder if this new guy is going to take these posts the wrong way and get all offended and shit..." Then I'm like, let me read them one more time, "nah how could he...does he really think keeping a trophy can is a good thing"?

And I read those 2 posts one more time. Good advice. Well written. Not too preachy but strong enough to point out the folly of this 30 day quit.

And sure enough. Shocker. Another faggidy newb getting all offended. Whahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. You guys are dicks. Whahhhhh your support sucks.

Blah blah blah.

Fuck yourself.

[Skoal Monster]

I don't understand where all of this hostility is coming from. Does nobody believe that I've actually quit? Do you think me an imposter? Do I have to follow specific rules in order for me to officially quit and if I don't follow those rules I can't say I've quit?

I don't get it. Every person is different and handles their quit differently. That can I have at work is NOT a safety can. You know, I could try to explain why I believe that can is still there, but you wouldn't believe me. You would call me a tool and berate me.

I came here to be a part of a group of people who are going through what I am, and all I get is a load of bullshit telling me that I'm not good enough to join the ranks... that I'm not doing it right.

I got a lot of good information from the pages of Killthecan.org. I was able to brace myself for the road ahead by knowing what expect from withdraw symptoms and the like. I was really liking this place. However, I'm really glad I didn't start coming to the forums earlier than now looking for support.

ahhhh Dudaman, you mistake my hostility for lack of support. Your quit today and that is good enough for me. I merely wanted to point out a opening in your defenses. Heres the deal;

The safety can is a open invitation to cave, I'm not pissed at you for having one at all, but I know that this reduces your chance of success dramatically. Im hostile because I DONT want to see you fail. Its the addiction I'm angry out not you.

Same thing goes for not posting roll, I know with 100% certainty that the support you would gain in posting daily would dramatically improve your chances of success. I don't want to see you fall victim to your own rationalizations. I get pissed only because this is such a common excuse.

Your an addict, just like me. This isn't an attack but a truth. there is no difference between us and a heroin addict except our choice of drug. As addicts we will lie, cheat , beg , borrow and steal to satisfy our habits. A common thread in addiction behavior is that the addict will try to justify using. Your addicted brain will try to outsmart the rational part that wants to quit. This is where people say I had just one because my girlfriends grandma died and I had a flat after a really long road trip after getting fired because I got divorced after I had a stressful operation during a fishing trip, cuz I was drunk.. blah blah blah.

All that shit is an excuse to dip. Now thats the obvious mind games . The less obvious are the ones where we eliminate the things that keep us quit. Such as

"I don't think I can post every day." There was a quitter that literally walked miles thru a snowstorm back to his truck to post. Another that posted from a hospital bed, another that posts from Iraq on an active tour. Another that posts from his phone, another that posted from a mental ward. Another that.........

Your internal addict knows this place will keep you quit if you embrace it, if your "using the site" as you say then you know the power of posting roll. Again my hostility is only toward the illusions that addiction creates not an attack on you. I know you think you got it by the balls, but you have no tools to beat it back yet. I don't want anybody to use that shit. I applaud you that you've made it this far. Weigh your 20 years of dipping against your 30 days. Your far from home.

I would beg you to post roll to save your life if it'd help, I'd also kick you in the ass. I'd also answer the phone when your sitting in the parking lot of the 7-11 at midnight and talk you out of it. But for that you have to post your pledge to stay quit today. So all I can do for you is offer up some experience gained from those that came this way before me and from what I've seen. Keep the quit.

sM

[Rkymtnman]

Ok...Let's compromise.  Go to Taco Bell and eat 5 burritos.  Then go to the Liquor Store and buy an 18 pack of Milwaukee's Best for about $7.  Go home and drink them all.  At 3am, if you haven't already shit your pants, take your "special can" to the bathroom, take the lid off and hold it under your anus while screaming with horrible pain as the deadly burrito/Beast mixture exits your rectum at speeds that would make Jeff Gordon shit himself.  Place the lid back on the can and place the can back in it's special place.  Deal???




Stay quit!

John Holmes (70's porn star and 40"s avatar) died in the 80's from AIDS.........he CHOSE to do gay porn after his staight porn career petered out....moral.......be careful what decidions you make, they can come back to haunt you.

Trophy cans= Gay porn.

'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'

[niwot]

Ok...Let's compromise. Go to Taco Bell and eat 5 burritos. Then go to the Liquor Store and buy an 18 pack of Milwaukee's Best for about $7. Go home and drink them all. At 3am, if you haven't already shit your pants, take your "special can" to the bathroom, take the lid off and hold it under your anus while screaming with horrible pain as the deadly burrito/Beast mixture exits your rectum at speeds that would make Jeff Gordon shit himself. Place the lid back on the can and place the can back in it's special place. Deal???




Stay quit!

John Holmes (70's porn star and 40"s avatar) died in the 80's from AIDS.........he CHOSE to do gay porn after his staight porn career petered out....moral.......be careful what decidions you make, they can come back to haunt you.

Trophy cans= Gay porn.

[greg40]

Ok...Let's compromise. Go to Taco Bell and eat 5 burritos. Then go to the Liquor Store and buy an 18 pack of Milwaukee's Best for about $7. Go home and drink them all. At 3am, if you haven't already shit your pants, take your "special can" to the bathroom, take the lid off and hold it under your anus while screaming with horrible pain as the deadly burrito/Beast mixture exits your rectum at speeds that would make Jeff Gordon shit himself. Place the lid back on the can and place the can back in it's special place. Deal???




Stay quit!

[Rkymtnman]

I don't understand where all of this hostility is coming from. Does nobody believe that I've actually quit? Do you think me an imposter? Do I have to follow specific rules in order for me to officially quit and if I don't follow those rules I can't say I've quit?

I don't get it. Every person is different and handles their quit differently. That can I have at work is NOT a safety can. You know, I could try to explain why I believe that can is still there, but you wouldn't believe me. You would call me a tool and berate me.

I came here to be a part of a group of people who are going through what I am, and all I get is a load of bullshit telling me that I'm not good enough to join the ranks... that I'm not doing it right.

I got a lot of good information from the pages of Killthecan.org. I was able to brace myself for the road ahead by knowing what expect from withdraw symptoms and the like. I was really liking this place. However, I'm really glad I didn't start coming to the forums earlier than now looking for support.

This is support brother. As the fuzzy monster said - he was you and we have all heard your line of "reasoning" hundreds of time from hundreds of other quitters. You words sound like those of all the other addicts here. You are no different than us.

The support you will receive here is 100% non bull shit - non candy coated - cut right to the chase - what you NEED to hear (as opposed to what you WANT to hear) - no holds barred uncut raw support.

It has worked for many many many quitters. Will it work for you? Don't know but I do know that can is dangerous BIG TIME and NEEDS to go. I also KNOW that if you don't give me your word every morning that you will not use nicotine for TODAY, your chances of success are drastically reduced. I give my word every day and expect the same for those here for "support". :)

Would it have been better if sM asked you nicely to flush that can for YOUR own good? Trust me - at this point, he knows better and realizes the danger that can represents. What happens when your wife pisses you off? Will you pull the old "I'll show you - I'm getting the can and starting chewing again" just to spite her? I did it - hundreds of times.

I can promise you - if you listen to those who have some before you and get some thicker skin, this place will save your life.

[niwot]

Duda- I think you took SM's post the wrong way. there is a lot of wisdom in there and he just wants to help you see that you are like all of us an addict....you don't want to have a can laying in your office... if the boss comes in and lays you off you will hit that can quicker than shit and throw away 30 days of quit.

We just want you to have some tools to help that is all.

Post roll and ignore everything else but your daily quit.

[Dudaman]

I don't understand where all of this hostility is coming from. Does nobody believe that I've actually quit? Do you think me an imposter? Do I have to follow specific rules in order for me to officially quit and if I don't follow those rules I can't say I've quit?

I don't get it. Every person is different and handles their quit differently. That can I have at work is NOT a safety can. You know, I could try to explain why I believe that can is still there, but you wouldn't believe me. You would call me a tool and berate me.

I came here to be a part of a group of people who are going through what I am, and all I get is a load of bullshit telling me that I'm not good enough to join the ranks... that I'm not doing it right.

I got a lot of good information from the pages of Killthecan.org. I was able to brace myself for the road ahead by knowing what expect from withdraw symptoms and the like. I was really liking this place. However, I'm really glad I didn't start coming to the forums earlier than now looking for support.