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Offline Ginet

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Re: off to a good start
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2015, 07:57:00 PM »
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Hello all,
1st. time in a form. Anyway, just turned 35 on Oct. 24th. I had my last dip Oct. 15th. 18 days sober. Grizzly mint has been my crutch for the past 12 years. (as long as I have been married, Wife did not like me smoking, so started to dip) I have smoked and chewed since 14 years old. I have quit so many times in that 21 years it is sad. I feel that I have a good start, last time I had this amount of sobriety was in 2000 made it 3 weeks. I am here now because I know i am going to be tempted, I already have been by all the triggers in life. I have been chewing gum almost non stop. So I hope to have a few good people to help keep my promise to myself.

My one question is a of side effects. For the last week, every time I get the urge to dip I also get dizzy. Can anyone relate? if so how long does this go on for?
I feel i was a pretty heavy user once my work day started I had a dip in. So I would imagine there is major withdrawal.

How did I quit? I ruptured my achilles tendon playing. The day I had surgery was the day I quit. The drugs they gave me helped me sleep and I could not walk or drive anyway, there was no way my wife would feed the habit. So the night before surgery I had my last dip. For the past couple of months it actually was not doing it for me anyway, I think it is time to be done. Let the snack time and weight gain begin. I could stand to gain a few pounds anyway. So if anyone reading this is looking for a quitting strategy I do not suggest this model it is quite painful. It is up to you.

What are your feelings about the non-tobacco chew good idea or dangerous? (Meaning it would just make you want the real deal) I have a hunting party coming up at the end of the month and it will be a big big trigger.

Thanks for the help.




Hello. Congrats on 18 days....that is HUGE!

You mentioned that you had "quit so many times in those 21 years".....which truly is really only a "stoppage". Quitting is to be done, completely, for good, and we do that everyday, all day, just for today. All of us have tried to quit aka stop, millions of times but until we got here....nothing worked. So, lesson number one is to post your roll everyday...which is your promise not to use in any form for 24 hours. That's all we are concerned with.

There are always temptations and definitely triggers for all of us. Addiction sucks and quitting is hard but you CAN do this. You are going to find that you will have many triggers and many "firsts". The first time watching a game without a dip, the first time hanging with the fellas without a dip, the first time you have an argument with the Mrs., the first really bad day at work, etc. If you made your promise for today, then you are good. These things called life and these first time events won't matter because you have already chosen not to use for today.

Side effects? I think you are referring to the withdrawal. It is brutal. No lie. I already told you quitting is hard, but it is really simple....just keep that shit out of your mouth. Your body needs to reset it self to working without the poison of nicotine and the other crap that has been running thru it for years. These all get easier as time goes on, but don't be fooled that you are ever cured. There is no cure. There is only 24 hours of not using for any reason.

Sorry to hear about the achilles....super painful. The reason you quit only works if it for you....yes, it may make the Mrs. happy etc but if you are not selfish and don't make your quit the most important thing in your life then.....you basically sacrifice your life. Quit for you.....only and always.

Finally, I used Smokey Mountain for the first year of my quit. I had to have something to deal with the oral fixation. I was focused on keeping nicotine out of my body at all costs so if I had to suck on some sugary corn silk I would. i used seeds and gum like crazy too. Just keep that shit out of your mouth. It didn't make me want the "real thing". It helped pacify me while I grew my hatred for Big Tobacco.

Good luck hunting. You don't need nicotine to hunt. You never did. Your addiction will work hard on you during that trip but you have to work harder to remain quit. What are you going to do to ensure you remain quit? I'd start by making a promise early that morning and each morning. You can't go against your word! Then, I'd get some numbers so you can call and reach out to someone when you are feeling like you may slip....and use. That's how this place works. No one can quit for you but you just need to grab any single one hand that is held out for you.......its simple.....keep that shit out of your mouth.

I'm just gonna let you know that chicks don't dig dudes with half jaws......so keep that fresh in your mind too.

I'll be here quitting like a girl
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Re: off to a good start
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2015, 07:40:00 PM »
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Thanks guys. It is a roller-coaster right now. This dizziness is sickening. But so far so good. Thanks for the support I know I will need it. I will see if I can figure out this post roll thing. I really do not want to start over again. I have started to get the little guy in my head telling me I can have one pinch it will be fine. I have listened to him in the past and one turns into a can in a heartbeat. I feel confident knowing this little jerk is a lier and hope to shut him out. He can be convincing. Again thanks. One more day is under my belt and we will start over tomorrow.
It took me several days to get posting roll down! You got this!
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Re: off to a good start
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2015, 07:39:00 PM »
If the fake helps, do it. I use Smokey Mountain. At first I was going through as much as I did the real stuff. Now I only use it if I just have to have it. I bought a can Saturday and still have over half a can left.

I tried Bacoff and well it sucked (my opinion)

anyway take care of your quit business!!!!!
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Re: off to a good start
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2015, 07:24:00 PM »
Yes, nicotine will keep whispering in your ear. That is why you want to go post roll right away. Just get your commitment in, you can make it look pretty tomorrow. Get some digits from fellow quitters, they can help you deny that little lying nicotine voice when it sneakers in.

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Re: off to a good start
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2015, 07:00:00 PM »
Thanks guys. It is a roller-coaster right now. This dizziness is sickening. But so far so good. Thanks for the support I know I will need it. I will see if I can figure out this post roll thing. I really do not want to start over again. I have started to get the little guy in my head telling me I can have one pinch it will be fine. I have listened to him in the past and one turns into a can in a heartbeat. I feel confident knowing this little jerk is a lier and hope to shut him out. He can be convincing. Again thanks. One more day is under my belt and we will start over tomorrow.

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Re: off to a good start
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2015, 01:17:00 PM »
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Hello all,
1st. time in a form. Anyway, just turned 35 on Oct. 24th. I had my last dip Oct. 15th. 18 days sober. Grizzly mint has been my crutch for the past 12 years. (as long as I have been married, Wife did not like me smoking, so started to dip) I have smoked and chewed since 14 years old. I have quit so many times in that 21 years it is sad. I feel that I have a good start, last time I had this amount of sobriety was in 2000 made it 3 weeks. I am here now because I know i am going to be tempted, I already have been by all the triggers in life. I have been chewing gum almost non stop. So I hope to have a few good people to help keep my promise to myself.

My one question is a of side effects. For the last week, every time I get the urge to dip I also get dizzy. Can anyone relate? if so how long does this go on for?
I feel i was a pretty heavy user once my work day started I had a dip in. So I would imagine there is major withdrawal.

How did I quit? I ruptured my achilles tendon playing. The day I had surgery was the day I quit. The drugs they gave me helped me sleep and I could not walk or drive anyway, there was no way my wife would feed the habit. So the night before surgery I had my last dip. For the past couple of months it actually was not doing it for me anyway, I think it is time to be done. Let the snack time and weight gain begin. I could stand to gain a few pounds anyway. So if anyone reading this is looking for a quitting strategy I do not suggest this model it is quite painful. It is up to you.

What are your feelings about the non-tobacco chew good idea or dangerous? (Meaning it would just make you want the real deal) I have a hunting party coming up at the end of the month and it will be a big big trigger.

Thanks for the help.




Mooch, your intro is a little confusing: do you say you are 'sober' because you have stopped alcohol, or because you have stopped tobacco? If you have trouble with alcohol, you need to address this, since alcohol is one of the main reasons people cave.

In addition, you don't have a tobacco habit, you are an addict. You need to admit that about yourself.

Also, you need something stronger than a promise, you need a commitment to stay quit. Make your promise a commitment, and take that commitment into your quit group and help keep your group committed to their quit.

I am guessing the urge to dip and the dizziness are both caused by something else, some trigger of yours that caused both feelings. Nonetheless, all of these physical symptoms will go away the longer you are off of the nicotine.

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Re: off to a good start
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2015, 07:42:00 AM »
Congrats on making it this far on your own. The dizziness is the fog it will pass. Sooner for some than others. Anything that keeps the poison out of your system is a good thing. Fake worked well for me. It scratched the itch of having something in my lip. When I first quit I used a ton of it. I'm at 68 days and I might throw a fake one in every couple of days. Although lately it is unsatisfying. At this point craves are less frequent and less intense. Listen to the others and get in post roll. Get some digits and become active on here it helps a lot.

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Re: off to a good start
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2015, 06:24:00 AM »
Mooch, I've seen our addiction described as a two part problem: nicotine, and oral fixation. Of the two nicotine is the most dangerous. I read of many quitters who get through the nicotine part, then tackle the oral fix later.

On fake, your challenge will be the temptation of a can of tobacco sitting there when you have a can of mint... so easy to oops! Some quitters here recommend jerky bits (same size as a dip) for a distinctive oral fix that is also tasty. Your hunting camp will be a challenge, make sure you get digits from fellow quitters so you can get support while there.

On the symptoms, they get better over time... after 30 years of poisoning yourself it takes a while to heal.

I quit with you today.

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Re: off to a good start
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2015, 12:23:00 AM »
Welcome to KTC. The enemy is nicotine. Do whatever you need to do to keep nicotine out of your system. I know some folks here use the fake stuff, seeds, lifesavers, gum - whatever they need to take care of the oral fixation. I'm 59 days in and I've been drinking a ton of water. Early on I was using seeds and gum, but I have since cut down on those.

I think your October 15th quit date would put you into the January 16 quit group here. Get yourself over there and start putting your name on that list every day. There are some awesome quitters there and they will help you a lot. We quit one day at a time here, every damn day.

I'm proud to quit with you today!

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off to a good start
« on: November 02, 2015, 11:32:00 PM »
Hello all,
1st. time in a form. Anyway, just turned 35 on Oct. 24th. I had my last dip Oct. 15th. 18 days sober. Grizzly mint has been my crutch for the past 12 years. (as long as I have been married, Wife did not like me smoking, so started to dip) I have smoked and chewed since 14 years old. I have quit so many times in that 21 years it is sad. I feel that I have a good start, last time I had this amount of sobriety was in 2000 made it 3 weeks. I am here now because I know i am going to be tempted, I already have been by all the triggers in life. I have been chewing gum almost non stop. So I hope to have a few good people to help keep my promise to myself.

My one question is a of side effects. For the last week, every time I get the urge to dip I also get dizzy. Can anyone relate? if so how long does this go on for?
I feel i was a pretty heavy user once my work day started I had a dip in. So I would imagine there is major withdrawal.

How did I quit? I ruptured my achilles tendon playing. The day I had surgery was the day I quit. The drugs they gave me helped me sleep and I could not walk or drive anyway, there was no way my wife would feed the habit. So the night before surgery I had my last dip. For the past couple of months it actually was not doing it for me anyway, I think it is time to be done. Let the snack time and weight gain begin. I could stand to gain a few pounds anyway. So if anyone reading this is looking for a quitting strategy I do not suggest this model it is quite painful. It is up to you.

What are your feelings about the non-tobacco chew good idea or dangerous? (Meaning it would just make you want the real deal) I have a hunting party coming up at the end of the month and it will be a big big trigger.

Thanks for the help.