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Offline Thumblewort

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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2014, 09:40:00 AM »
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I apologize for that. That was what fueled my addiction though. I feel like if I'm not honest it doesn't do any good to use this site. I'm not in a state of denial or was I intentionally glorifying tobacco and nicotine. I am sharing my personal story and the reasons to why I began using tobacco and struggled to quit using tobacco. I don't want to ever go back to using tobacco and hate that I started but for me quitting means using one of the alternative dips that KTC has provided us with links for because I'm addressing my problem. I've identified why I loved dipping tobacco and am fixing that problem with the alternative dips. In this early stage of quitting it's going great and I pray it continues to go just as well because I do not want to ever go back to using tobacco. Again I apologize if I've rubbed anyone wrong. I'm here to quit using tobacco and nicotine bottom line.
Brother, it's how we learn. One thing you'll find here is that you will piss some of us off by your addict speak. We are all addicts, and once upon a time thought as you do. If we seem blunt and bitchy, it's because we are trying to help you be quit, and we have seen many attempted quits go south. You need to change how you think about nicotine, and by reading the intros and HoF speeches, you will learn.

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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2014, 09:33:00 AM »
I apologize for that. That was what fueled my addiction though. I feel like if I'm not honest it doesn't do any good to use this site. I'm not in a state of denial or was I intentionally glorifying tobacco and nicotine. I am sharing my personal story and the reasons to why I began using tobacco and struggled to quit using tobacco. I don't want to ever go back to using tobacco and hate that I started but for me quitting means using one of the alternative dips that KTC has provided us with links for because I'm addressing my problem. I've identified why I loved dipping tobacco and am fixing that problem with the alternative dips. In this early stage of quitting it's going great and I pray it continues to go just as well because I do not want to ever go back to using tobacco. Again I apologize if I've rubbed anyone wrong. I'm here to quit using tobacco and nicotine bottom line.
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 09:19:00 AM »
Yes Royal, at the end of the day all we want for each other is to be quit. But it seems like you are romantizing chewing and spitting, which can irk fellow quitters. Until you learn to hate every facet of chewing tobacco and nicotine, your quit is on shaky ground.
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2014, 09:14:00 AM »
Diesel,

To first cover your question directing of spitting I enjoyed perfecting the art of "the spit". Most will probably agree that when you had a good clean spit you were like hell yea and when you had some spit drag behind you were like aww shit. That's what I mean by that.

I have been addicted to the act of dipping. I have been as long as I can remember. When I was little I would "dip" beef jerky all the time. For me quitting hasn't been about the nicotine but finding something to replace that oral fixation. Everyone works differently. I could go days more specifically weekends without a pinch and from what I have read the weekends is generally everyone's hardest time to go without because it wasn't about nicotine it was about the act of dipping. I honestly believe I fooled myself into believing I loved Copenhagen because I just wanted to dip. While I understand your point about you can't become addicted to fake chew nor should you want to, don't you think if my problem was never the nicotine but the act of dipping that you'd much rather see me out in the groves or pastures sporting a wad of Smokey Mountain then a pinch of Copenhagen?

You may think I'm crazy because I enjoy the act of dipping so much. Fake chew has provided that oral fixation and actually tastes good and I have found that I enjoy it more then Copenhagen. Every person will quit their own way we are just here to support everybody's quit though aren't we?
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 01:42:00 AM »
Please be careful. Smoky Mountain is great for that oral fixation, but sooner or later your brain is going to realize that...There's no nicotine in it.

I chewed for 15 years and used to think I loved spitting a big brown wad.

I didn't, it was Fucking disgusting. In fact I can't think of anything more vile than pressing some brown shit against my teeth and gums and then spitting.

I mean, you say you love the "sensation" of spitting, what do you love about it? Please let me know, and don't just say, "I just love how it feels", because that's a Shitty answer.

What I'm getting at here, is that I think you are dismissing something that's very important yet tough to come to terms with. You are a nicotine addict. The "joy" of dipping doesn't just come from spitting. It comes because your brain is addicted to poisoning itself on a regular basis.

There is definitely an oral fixation that Smokey mountain can help with, but for continued success and a strong quit, I suggest you get it out of your head that you "love the sensation of dipping and spitting". In fact I would recommend that you build a strong hatred for all things dipping.

It's very hard to quit something you love, especially when you admit to still loving it while in the process of quit. It's counterproductive. You need to see dip for the controlling and evil posion that it is. You need stop glorifying it and start vilifying it. Keep with the Smokey mountain if it's helping but I'm just trying to get you to see the bigger picture.

You can't get addicted to fake chew, nor should you want to.

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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 12:44:00 AM »
Thanks to all you guys for the support. If it wasn't for KTC I would have never known about the tobacco free market. I'm nearing my first week and its all thanks to Smokey Mountain tobacco free snuff satisfying my joy of dipping. After years of chewing Red Man and dipping Copenhagen between playing baseball and cowboying I grew to love dipping and have become accustomed to having something in my lip. There's just something about holding a dip in and spitting a big brown wad that I loved. I was reading on the site where it said that while some people may not need them the tobacco free snuffs is a big help in the quitting process especially for guys like me who love the sensation of dipping and spitting. Lets beat this shit and quit the fuck out of it!
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2014, 10:27:00 AM »
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Welcome to KTC and the Sultans Kalan. Glad to have you here and congrats on your decision. It probably the best decision youll ever make. Make sure you post roll with me and all the pther Sultans each day. We have each others backs man. Read as much as you can on this site. Theres excellent content everywhere. If you need anything just send me a PM. Glad to have you and proud to quit with you today.
Good luck. I think I speak for everyone that says we wish we had quit at your age. Read around here and you'll see lots of 20+ year dippers who started at about the same age you took your first dip. I think very few of the young guys really get serious about their quits because they think if it doesn' work out this time, they'll do it next time. Don't fall into this trap, I spent decades pushing off a quit. Seize this opportunity and get involved here. Post roll everyday, and have that roll mean something. When I post roll, I am promising not to dip today. You do the same, and keep doing it every day.

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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2014, 10:01:00 AM »
Welcome to KTC and the Sultans Kalan. Glad to have you here and congrats on your decision. It probably the best decision youll ever make. Make sure you post roll with me and all the pther Sultans each day. We have each others backs man. Read as much as you can on this site. Theres excellent content everywhere. If you need anything just send me a PM. Glad to have you and proud to quit with you today.

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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2014, 09:38:00 AM »
I'm right there with you brother. Today is my day 4. I'll quit like fuck with you
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2014, 08:59:00 AM »
Welcome, I wish I had quit at your age! Read everything you can on this site, educate yourself about addiction. If you haven't, learn how to post roll and do it every day. Get involved with the people here, and you can live free of the poisonous weed. I'll quit with you
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2014, 08:40:00 AM »
Well hell, you're already through the worst part! Post roll on the daily, and I'll quit like fuck with you today.
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2014, 05:17:00 AM »
Kalan

Welcome to the site. Find out what it means to post roll. Do it religiously. This is your quit. Own it. It is only hard for a while. Life is so much better without. You can do this. We can help you.

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Kalan: A recent quitter
« on: June 23, 2014, 02:23:00 AM »
Hi my name is Kalan and I am 21 years old. I took my first dip of smokeless tobacco at the age of 13 and began using regularly when I was 14 or 15. I took my last pinch of Copenhagen ever the night after I found KTC and purchased my first can of Smokey Mountain tobacco free snuff that day. I truly believe the reason I thought I would never is that after the five or six years I have dipped regularly I have become so accustomed to having a pinch in that I could shake the habit of having something in my lip. Thanks to KTC I found out about dipping alternatives and am nearing my first week of being tobacco free.
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