You have some bad assed quitters posting advice on your intro and trying to help you... Sounds like you figured out for yourself that the patches just prolong the suffering. Only way to go is cold ass turkey which is where you are now. Post roll call and promise not to use every day, read everything on KTC, drink lots of water, work out, get fake dip, hard candy, and sunflower seeds, schedual a deep tissue massage and pay for it with the money you are not spending on poison, beat your meat, whatever you need to do to stay quit. If you open yourself to the knowledge here you will be strengthened! Never Again For Any Reason and One Day At A Time... Also building up a pathological hatred and rage for the nic bitch is a good idea! I will quit with you every day, and it gets better.