Hope I’m doing this right

[Zombo Funk]

Fighting through a kidney stone right now. Maybe a blessing and a curse. Curse because I’ve got these shit withdrawal feelings compounded with the feeling that my kidney is trying to claw its way out of me. A blessing because sometimes it’s so painful I’m almost distracted from everything else. Also seems that the pain relievers might be killing to birds at once.


Kidney stone + nicotine  = 2 problems

Stay the course, man! You got it. And you're exactly right. 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.

[grizzlyquittergreen]

Fighting through a kidney stone right now. Maybe a blessing and a curse. Curse because I’ve got these shit withdrawal feelings compounded with the feeling that my kidney is trying to claw its way out of me. A blessing because sometimes it’s so painful I’m almost distracted from everything else. Also seems that the pain relievers might be killing to birds at once.


Kidney stone + nicotine  = 2 problems

[Thefranks5]

What happened?

Hard to really remember what happened it was so long ago. I’m sure I just got tired of the shit feeling and caved. It was definitely the easy way out.

Why did it happen?

I don’t think I thought I was done dipping yet at the time. I knew I shouldn’t, I knew other people thought I shouldn’t. And I think I convinced myself that I really wanted to quit, but inside I was fine with dipping for the rest of my life at the time.

What are you going to do differently this time?

This time I’m gonna take it more seriously. Definitely best to avoid some triggers for awhile, ie fishing and drinking. I’m gonna give it at least a month before I crack open a beer. Also just straight up avoid going into gas station for awhile, pay at the pump.

Your response to question 1 tells me that you didn't take the last quit seriously at all.  Why would you know what happened when caving was so easy and forgettable.  You lacked the effort to quit.

Your response to question 2 is standard retread talk.  You were ready to post roll for a few days but not ready to quit.  Now 6 years have gone by.

Your response to question 3 makes me question your commitment.  Do you think you will be cured in a month by passing on fishing, beer, and convenience stores?

The path to quit is to take it one day at a time and quit every damn day.

@grizzlyquittergreen I am with stranger on this one. Dude, you just don’t seem like your ready to quit and those are excuses I gave for 30 plus years. You need to make this decision and stick to it ONE DAY AT A TIME!!! I am at day 519 today and I finally am getting to where I am feeling darn good. I still have issues to tend to and praying that it is the big cause of all my issues. Crappy feeling everyday since quitting is normal until things are fixed. Go read my intro dude and you will see what I have dealt with. Some people will support you and some won’t, get used to it. You will have daily triggers that will test you and that is what you will fight with the most.  Others have dealt with more and have lost their life because of tobacco. I am an addict just like you and if I can save one person then how many more can be saved. Quit with you today my friend and my digits are a pm away.

[Stranger999]

What happened?

Hard to really remember what happened it was so long ago. I’m sure I just got tired of the shit feeling and caved. It was definitely the easy way out.

Why did it happen?

I don’t think I thought I was done dipping yet at the time. I knew I shouldn’t, I knew other people thought I shouldn’t. And I think I convinced myself that I really wanted to quit, but inside I was fine with dipping for the rest of my life at the time.

What are you going to do differently this time?

This time I’m gonna take it more seriously. Definitely best to avoid some triggers for awhile, ie fishing and drinking. I’m gonna give it at least a month before I crack open a beer. Also just straight up avoid going into gas station for awhile, pay at the pump.

Your response to question 1 tells me that you didn't take the last quit seriously at all.  Why would you know what happened when caving was so easy and forgettable.  You lacked the effort to quit.

Your response to question 2 is standard retread talk.  You were ready to post roll for a few days but not ready to quit.  Now 6 years have gone by.

Your response to question 3 makes me question your commitment.  Do you think you will be cured in a month by passing on fishing, beer, and convenience stores?

The path to quit is to take it one day at a time and quit every damn day.

[Zombo Funk]

To me it looks like your answers to the big 3 are the same as last time, and I mean that in a bad way since both read like someone who forgot to do their homework and are penciling it in while the teacher walks around collecting it. I guess you get credit for participation but you're coming in at #1 and #2 for worst responses I've read.

I'm happy you're back and I'm glad you're ponying up to 'quit' again, but I don't think you'll find success with that level of commitment. I'm looking forward to be proven wrong. Let me know if you want to trade digits!

[grizzlyquittergreen]

I merged your new intro with your original one. Each member only gets one intro.

It appears you had a pretty rocky history here. Has your mindset changed? Do you realize you are an addict and have accepted that fact?

KTC is a ZERO nicotine site. Using nicotine in any form while here will result in an immediate ban.

Make your promise early every damn day and keep your word. Only you can quit for you. Be ready to be held accountable and hold others accountable.

Thanks. Yeah my mindset is different now. Big maturity difference between 20 and 27. I probably wouldn’t have liked the 20 yr old version of myself.

[MN_Engineer]

I merged your new intro with your original one. Each member only gets one intro.

It appears you had a pretty rocky history here. Has your mindset changed? Do you realize you are an addict and have accepted that fact?

KTC is a ZERO nicotine site. Using nicotine in any form while here will result in an immediate ban.

Make your promise early every damn day and keep your word. Only you can quit for you. Be ready to be held accountable and hold others accountable.

[grizzlyquittergreen]

What happened?

Hard to really remember what happened it was so long ago. I’m sure I just got tired of the shit feeling and caved. It was definitely the easy way out.

Why did it happen?

I don’t think I thought I was done dipping yet at the time. I knew I shouldn’t, I knew other people thought I shouldn’t. And I think I convinced myself that I really wanted to quit, but inside I was fine with dipping for the rest of my life at the time.

What are you going to do differently this time?

This time I’m gonna take it more seriously. Definitely best to avoid some triggers for awhile, ie fishing and drinking. I’m gonna give it at least a month before I crack open a beer. Also just straight up avoid going into gas station for awhile, pay at the pump.

[Stranger999]

Hey I’m Pat. Unfortunately this isn’t my first time on KTC. I gave it a go about 7 years ago, and well that didn’t quite work out. Was much younger and much much dumber. I hope I’m doing this right with a new introduction. Couldn’t find any info on how to go about coming back and no one was online in chat. Anyways, I’ve quit today. The time was coming soon and after an eye opening trip to dentist, I’m back ready to stay quit with one less tooth than the last go around. Never really felt any previous quit attempts were for myself, but this ones for me and my body.

I know this sites got some good detectives and my previous posts will be brought up so I’ll address them now. I get it, no cigars in my future either. (Again was much younger and much dumber)

Looking forward to this,
Grizzlyquittergreen

We let cavers back in, but you need to come clean and answer the 3 questions - in your current group and all of your former groups.

What happened?

Why did it happen?

What are you going to do differently this time?

No need to rush, take your time and really think about it before you answer these questions.

It looks like you were here before I quit.

I quit with you today.  Stranger999 day 2,160

[grizzlyquittergreen]

Hey I’m Pat. Unfortunately this isn’t my first time on KTC. I gave it a go about 7 years ago, and well that didn’t quite work out. Was much younger and much much dumber. I hope I’m doing this right with a new introduction. Couldn’t find any info on how to go about coming back and no one was online in chat. Anyways, I’ve quit today. The time was coming soon and after an eye opening trip to dentist, I’m back ready to stay quit with one less tooth than the last go around. Never really felt any previous quit attempts were for myself, but this ones for me and my body.

I know this sites got some good detectives and my previous posts will be brought up so I’ll address them now. I get it, no cigars in my future either. (Again was much younger and much dumber)

Looking forward to this,
Grizzlyquittergreen

[Ron_Cross]

GQG,

I have zero issues if the only thing you do is post roll each day and do what you can. I do the same during the week a lot of times because of time constraint's. Nor do I hold you to your post a year ago about cigars. My consternation is the flippant way you responded to the group asking you to answer the 3 questions. You have been around enough to know that this is the way it is done and the the tone of your answers were "I'm the victim here" not like someone actually owning up to their mistakes/failures in the past.........just my read on it.....

Not convinced at all. It is going to take a lot more than a post a day based on his track record and attitude previously.... I would have been doing back flips and giving people hundreds of reasons why they should support me me after I shit all over them. What do I know though? Obviously he has this thing all figured out.

[Menace]

GQG,

I have zero issues if the only thing you do is post roll each day and do what you can. I do the same during the week a lot of times because of time constraint's. Nor do I hold you to your post a year ago about cigars. My consternation is the flippant way you responded to the group asking you to answer the 3 questions. You have been around enough to know that this is the way it is done and the the tone of your answers were "I'm the victim here" not like someone actually owning up to their mistakes/failures in the past.........just my read on it.....

[Diesel2112]

Diesel, You probably hurt his feelings already, he might need his Mommy reassuring him that he is great, that he is really super. Maybe we can all chip in and get him a participation trophy for his last stoppage........ This guy didn't get it the first time and still doesn't get it now. F%king clueless! He still thinks this is a habit that he controls...........Pointless to waste valuable time on someone who does not have the desire to actually understand his addiction nor the guts put forth the effort to QUIT. Come back when you are serious about quitting!

He's hurt MY feelings by coming in here weak as fuck and shitting on everybody who tried to help him previously.

How about manning the fuck up and show some fight? Nah, instead he's just going to sit back and take it all. If me being "mean" to him chases him away, then like I said previously he really doesn't want it.

Answer the 3 questions, say your sorry, post role and make a true commitment and I will fight side by side with him.

Personally, I don't see it happening.

Agreed, man up and every fighter in this place will back you!

True. im still picking the poop from my hair

He's at least posting role. He needs to answer the 3 questions and give his reasons why he's in it to win it this time.

Should be up to his quit group to get this out of him.

Quit on...

Diesel, I agree with you, his group should hold him accountable and I have admittedly helped push the issue on the roll list. He was in my group last so I figure that gives me some juice as well to see what we can get. Well from his post which I have pasted below, it doesn't seem like much. His answers are contrite and totally self centered, like this place is a joke to him and now that is starting to piss me off. I would fight with anyone here to stay quit, even a caver. Shit we all make mistakes but I am not sure GQG gets it and if he doesn't he is a liability in my mind. Here is his reply to his group that was asking for the answers to the 3 questions:

Y'all are goddamn ridiculous. Shits 8 months old.

1. What happened
- I probably wasn't ready to quit chewing yet. Fell away from site. Continued to chew the past few months.
2. Why
- wasn't ready
- fell away from group
3. What to do differently
-Have already picked up Smokey mountain, stay more active in group when possible, take things one day at a time and if I find that too long I'll do one hour at a time.

Disregard the cigar thing. If this explanation isn't good enough for you don't bother replying or trying to get more out of me because I really don't give a damn. Leave me be to just keep posting roll and being honest with myself.

GQG

It's a start at least.

I will say that whoever drug that post out about smoking an occasional cigarette or cigar is being a little unfair as he said that nearly a year ago, yet it is being made to look like he just said it. He has since changed his stance on that, and it probably should be let go.

He's posting roll and at least recognized he lost touch with hos group and the site, which lead to his cave. Seems to be leaving himself an out by saying he will stay more active in the group..."When possible".

Hopefully his group stays on his ass.

Quit on...

First levelheaded thing said towards me. Appreciated. The "when possible" refers to work. On days I work both jobs I'm not going to have any time at all to be online except to post roll in morning and maybe for a minute late at night

Good job posting roll. Keep it going.

[grizzlyquittergreen]

Diesel, You probably hurt his feelings already, he might need his Mommy reassuring him that he is great, that he is really super. Maybe we can all chip in and get him a participation trophy for his last stoppage........ This guy didn't get it the first time and still doesn't get it now. F%king clueless! He still thinks this is a habit that he controls...........Pointless to waste valuable time on someone who does not have the desire to actually understand his addiction nor the guts put forth the effort to QUIT. Come back when you are serious about quitting!

He's hurt MY feelings by coming in here weak as fuck and shitting on everybody who tried to help him previously.

How about manning the fuck up and show some fight? Nah, instead he's just going to sit back and take it all. If me being "mean" to him chases him away, then like I said previously he really doesn't want it.

Answer the 3 questions, say your sorry, post role and make a true commitment and I will fight side by side with him.

Personally, I don't see it happening.

Agreed, man up and every fighter in this place will back you!

True. im still picking the poop from my hair

He's at least posting role. He needs to answer the 3 questions and give his reasons why he's in it to win it this time.

Should be up to his quit group to get this out of him.

Quit on...

Diesel, I agree with you, his group should hold him accountable and I have admittedly helped push the issue on the roll list. He was in my group last so I figure that gives me some juice as well to see what we can get. Well from his post which I have pasted below, it doesn't seem like much. His answers are contrite and totally self centered, like this place is a joke to him and now that is starting to piss me off. I would fight with anyone here to stay quit, even a caver. Shit we all make mistakes but I am not sure GQG gets it and if he doesn't he is a liability in my mind. Here is his reply to his group that was asking for the answers to the 3 questions:

Y'all are goddamn ridiculous. Shits 8 months old.

1. What happened
- I probably wasn't ready to quit chewing yet. Fell away from site. Continued to chew the past few months.
2. Why
- wasn't ready
- fell away from group
3. What to do differently
-Have already picked up Smokey mountain, stay more active in group when possible, take things one day at a time and if I find that too long I'll do one hour at a time.

Disregard the cigar thing. If this explanation isn't good enough for you don't bother replying or trying to get more out of me because I really don't give a damn. Leave me be to just keep posting roll and being honest with myself.

GQG

It's a start at least.

I will say that whoever drug that post out about smoking an occasional cigarette or cigar is being a little unfair as he said that nearly a year ago, yet it is being made to look like he just said it. He has since changed his stance on that, and it probably should be let go.

He's posting roll and at least recognized he lost touch with hos group and the site, which lead to his cave. Seems to be leaving himself an out by saying he will stay more active in the group..."When possible".

Hopefully his group stays on his ass.

Quit on...

First levelheaded thing said towards me. Appreciated. The "when possible" refers to work. On days I work both jobs I'm not going to have any time at all to be online except to post roll in morning and maybe for a minute late at night

[Diesel2112]

Diesel, You probably hurt his feelings already, he might need his Mommy reassuring him that he is great, that he is really super. Maybe we can all chip in and get him a participation trophy for his last stoppage........ This guy didn't get it the first time and still doesn't get it now. F%king clueless! He still thinks this is a habit that he controls...........Pointless to waste valuable time on someone who does not have the desire to actually understand his addiction nor the guts put forth the effort to QUIT. Come back when you are serious about quitting!

He's hurt MY feelings by coming in here weak as fuck and shitting on everybody who tried to help him previously.

How about manning the fuck up and show some fight? Nah, instead he's just going to sit back and take it all. If me being "mean" to him chases him away, then like I said previously he really doesn't want it.

Answer the 3 questions, say your sorry, post role and make a true commitment and I will fight side by side with him.

Personally, I don't see it happening.

Agreed, man up and every fighter in this place will back you!

True. im still picking the poop from my hair

He's at least posting role. He needs to answer the 3 questions and give his reasons why he's in it to win it this time.

Should be up to his quit group to get this out of him.

Quit on...

Diesel, I agree with you, his group should hold him accountable and I have admittedly helped push the issue on the roll list. He was in my group last so I figure that gives me some juice as well to see what we can get. Well from his post which I have pasted below, it doesn't seem like much. His answers are contrite and totally self centered, like this place is a joke to him and now that is starting to piss me off. I would fight with anyone here to stay quit, even a caver. Shit we all make mistakes but I am not sure GQG gets it and if he doesn't he is a liability in my mind. Here is his reply to his group that was asking for the answers to the 3 questions:

Y'all are goddamn ridiculous. Shits 8 months old.

1. What happened
- I probably wasn't ready to quit chewing yet. Fell away from site. Continued to chew the past few months.
2. Why
- wasn't ready
- fell away from group
3. What to do differently
-Have already picked up Smokey mountain, stay more active in group when possible, take things one day at a time and if I find that too long I'll do one hour at a time.

Disregard the cigar thing. If this explanation isn't good enough for you don't bother replying or trying to get more out of me because I really don't give a damn. Leave me be to just keep posting roll and being honest with myself.

GQG

It's a start at least.

I will say that whoever drug that post out about smoking an occasional cigarette or cigar is being a little unfair as he said that nearly a year ago, yet it is being made to look like he just said it. He has since changed his stance on that, and it probably should be let go.

He's posting roll and at least recognized he lost touch with hos group and the site, which lead to his cave. Seems to be leaving himself an out by saying he will stay more active in the group..."When possible".

Hopefully his group stays on his ass.

Quit on...