This one time at band camp

[E&C's Dad]

I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.

You didn't...

*sigh*

Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!

You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.

Damn...

This is the proof man. We are a herd. When you stray from the herd that nic bitch lion is out there just waiting on you. 5 days, hall of fame, 500 or 5000 days it just don't matter. She wants you dead and she's never gonna stop trying. You will never be safe.

What the fuck! Its amazing what the bitch can do to a man. You sound a lot more like the little bitch who first posted here than the 500+ day quit bad ass that you were last week. Answer the questions, make a amends and keep your fucking word this time. You better not disappear again!

And you better start posting with October as well as your old group. Disrespectful as hell to post in the asylum and not with October. Man the fuck up or Move the fuck out.

[E&C's Dad]

I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.

You didn't...

*sigh*

Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!

You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.

Damn...

This is the proof man. We are a herd. When you stray from the herd that nic bitch lion is out there just waiting on you. 5 days, hall of fame, 500 or 5000 days it just don't matter. She wants you dead and she's never gonna stop trying. You will never be safe.

What the fuck! Its amazing what the bitch can do to a man. You sound a lot more like the little bitch who first posted here than the 500+ day quit bad ass that you were last week. Answer the questions, make a amends and keep your fucking word this time. You better not disappear again!

[Bulldog0311]

I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.

You didn't...

*sigh*

Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!

You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.

Damn...

This is the proof man. We are a herd. When you stray from the herd that nic bitch lion is out there just waiting on you. 5 days, hall of fame, 500 or 5000 days it just don't matter. She wants you dead and she's never gonna stop trying. You will never be safe.

[slug.go]

I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.

You didn't...

*sigh*

Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!

You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.

Damn...

[Roamcountry]

I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.

You didn't...

*sigh*

Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!

You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.

[srans]

I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.

You didn't...

*sigh*

Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!

[chewie]

I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.

You didn't...

*sigh*

[Thumblewort]

I just don't get it, not after 500 days. A good post for the pre-HoF'ers right here - always have a cave plan in place, day 1 or day 10,001.

[Doc2quit4good]

kubiak day 1- I posted roll yesterday when i woke up and then proceeded to smoke 4 cigs while "fishing" with 2 cases of beer. i didn't lie, I broke a promise, and for that i suck. phone was dead, but i don't think it would've mattered, i was partying my balls off. would've been nice if i actually caught some fish.

And he sounds REEEEEEEAAAAAL sorry about it ^o)

I hate to even quote this because I don't want to bump this up to the top again, but here is the thing. It's bad enough to hear the words complacency, lack of integrity, etc lately....Yelled in our faces.... Kubiak was in a solid group. Hell I even got called out for commenting before posting first there once. You can't forget your tools and your comittment to quit. I was right at the cusp of this cave and didn't even know it. He was telling me about leaving KTC for a better alternative. I let him go on. Not that I could stop him from going anywhere else or caving, but should have realized it and at least communicated to his brothers in Nov 12. There's been a lot of shit around here lately. People siding with other people instead of the process. What I didn't see in this case was Kubiak siding with his quit. He didn't protect his quit. We can't ever compromise our quits because we think we should support someone. Your quit is the most important thing. Post roll here for yourself everyday. Post roll supporting others, but do it to protect your quit. Side with the process here at KTC and not people. It works!!!!

[UH60Chief107]

kubiak day 1- I posted roll yesterday when i woke up and then proceeded to smoke 4 cigs while "fishing" with 2 cases of beer. i didn't lie, I broke a promise, and for that i suck. phone was dead, but i don't think it would've mattered, i was partying my balls off. would've been nice if i actually caught some fish.

And he sounds REEEEEEEAAAAAL sorry about it ^o)

[Nolaq]

What a fucking shame. To think I wasted a shit ton of time on you.

Thanks for the betrayal. Hope it was worth it.

Bitch.

[AppleJack]

Cave alert...
4 cigarettes on a drunken fishing trip.

Someone has some 'splaining to do.

[Kubiak]

Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"?  What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite.  I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally.  There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch.  Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off.  Well, a dip and a beer, they went together. 

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby.  I miss it.  There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this.  I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing.  I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then.  But you know what?  If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts.  Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages. 

So ask yourself... how important is your quit?  What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping?  Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet?  If there are, it's okay.  A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.

I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.

^^ what the dick with teeth said.

I avoided a lot of shit in my first year, but i wish I had not in retrospect. Especially considering all the stuff that happened that I couldnt avoid (kids birth/hospitalization, dads hospitalization/death, etc).

I think had I pushed through the triggering events in a more controlled, planned fashion (like the barner and his game, or planning to go fishing and stocking up on seeds/fireballs and letting some quit brothers know, etc) it would have made the unplanned events that were completely out of my control easier.

Either way, the message of your quit being the priority and not putting it at danger is a good one. But life WILL happen, and it WILL happen on its own terms and in my opinion its better to have some firing range time under your belt before you are truly tested.

Have no fear: no one is going to force you to dip. And (to paraphrase another quitter much smarter than I) you are an intelligent human and it is a plant. My bet is on you.

I love facing "trigger events" and winning because it makes me stronger. THE trigger event is approaching: the annual fly in duck hunt with the guys. I can't wait to enjoy the trip sans nic.

Yep. The nic bitch can get a little cocky. She thinks she owns a rugby field or a deer stand or a gas station. Sometimes it's fun just to walk in her "house", take a shit on the carpet, give her the finger and leave. If you see her, tell her you own this house as well.

:)

The Nic-Bitch will forever be a hellhound on your heels. Addicts can't forget that. Congrats on 500 and 501.

Print this out and carry it in your pocket:

FREEDOM!!!!!  -primal scream as I rip the patch off my shoulder

OK now I will try to post for real

That was the moment you took her head on. Own it. Don't let the bitch win, whether its a Rugby field, or a long drive, or after Christmas dinner.

Fuck her.

Couldn't agree more. Take her on and kick her ass everywhere you want to be. I wouldn't recommend that for someone with 20 days in, but once a quitter has some winning experiences it shouldn't be that difficult. Simply be prepared, you have the quit savvy to win again every time.

Maybe I'm not telling the full story...

waaaay before I was on KTC, I "stopped" for a year and a half when I got married in 2008. About 500 days, I suppose. And I went to an alumni game, "quit". I dipped that whole weekend like it was my last weekend on earth, and after the weekend was over, I "stopped" dipping again. Well that lasted until the next time I was out with my friends, and then stopped again... that led to being full-time over the course of a couple months.

I know what you're saying, and I should own this... but I really do value my quit more than I do playing rugby. I think I should play a match with dudes I don't know first, a local club, to get one under my belt on my terms. Luckily I get to wait until the spring, and develop a solid "rugby quit plan" that incorporates peripherals (gum/seeds/fireballs), calling a couple guys before/after the match just to reinforce the quit, and maybe a butt plug... not that I've ever tried one, but hey, it might help, why not.

I really appreciate everyone's opinion on this, it helps.

Trust your gut then. I trust your judgement.

PS.

I'll take a shit in the nic bitches's living room. I'll tell her Kubiak sent me. 'arse'

Hey Sco, did ya pinch one out on her coffee table for me? Seriously, she deserves it. Especially after new years, just a reminder how much we hate her. Then again, if she read that Big Savings Wednesday, she might get a clue.

[Scowick65]

Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"?  What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite.  I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally.  There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch.  Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off.  Well, a dip and a beer, they went together. 

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby.  I miss it.  There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this.  I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing.  I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then.  But you know what?  If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts.  Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages. 

So ask yourself... how important is your quit?  What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping?  Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet?  If there are, it's okay.  A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.

I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.

^^ what the dick with teeth said.

I avoided a lot of shit in my first year, but i wish I had not in retrospect. Especially considering all the stuff that happened that I couldnt avoid (kids birth/hospitalization, dads hospitalization/death, etc).

I think had I pushed through the triggering events in a more controlled, planned fashion (like the barner and his game, or planning to go fishing and stocking up on seeds/fireballs and letting some quit brothers know, etc) it would have made the unplanned events that were completely out of my control easier.

Either way, the message of your quit being the priority and not putting it at danger is a good one. But life WILL happen, and it WILL happen on its own terms and in my opinion its better to have some firing range time under your belt before you are truly tested.

Have no fear: no one is going to force you to dip. And (to paraphrase another quitter much smarter than I) you are an intelligent human and it is a plant. My bet is on you.

I love facing "trigger events" and winning because it makes me stronger. THE trigger event is approaching: the annual fly in duck hunt with the guys. I can't wait to enjoy the trip sans nic.

Yep. The nic bitch can get a little cocky. She thinks she owns a rugby field or a deer stand or a gas station. Sometimes it's fun just to walk in her "house", take a shit on the carpet, give her the finger and leave. If you see her, tell her you own this house as well.

:)

The Nic-Bitch will forever be a hellhound on your heels. Addicts can't forget that. Congrats on 500 and 501.

Print this out and carry it in your pocket:

FREEDOM!!!!!  -primal scream as I rip the patch off my shoulder

OK now I will try to post for real

That was the moment you took her head on. Own it. Don't let the bitch win, whether its a Rugby field, or a long drive, or after Christmas dinner.

Fuck her.

Couldn't agree more. Take her on and kick her ass everywhere you want to be. I wouldn't recommend that for someone with 20 days in, but once a quitter has some winning experiences it shouldn't be that difficult. Simply be prepared, you have the quit savvy to win again every time.

Maybe I'm not telling the full story...

waaaay before I was on KTC, I "stopped" for a year and a half when I got married in 2008. About 500 days, I suppose. And I went to an alumni game, "quit". I dipped that whole weekend like it was my last weekend on earth, and after the weekend was over, I "stopped" dipping again. Well that lasted until the next time I was out with my friends, and then stopped again... that led to being full-time over the course of a couple months.

I know what you're saying, and I should own this... but I really do value my quit more than I do playing rugby. I think I should play a match with dudes I don't know first, a local club, to get one under my belt on my terms. Luckily I get to wait until the spring, and develop a solid "rugby quit plan" that incorporates peripherals (gum/seeds/fireballs), calling a couple guys before/after the match just to reinforce the quit, and maybe a butt plug... not that I've ever tried one, but hey, it might help, why not.

I really appreciate everyone's opinion on this, it helps.

Trust your gut then. I trust your judgement.

PS.

I'll take a shit in the nic bitches's living room. I'll tell her Kubiak sent me. 'arse'

[Kubiak]

Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"?  What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite.  I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally.  There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch.  Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off.  Well, a dip and a beer, they went together. 

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby.  I miss it.  There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this.  I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing.  I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then.  But you know what?  If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts.  Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages. 

So ask yourself... how important is your quit?  What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping?  Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet?  If there are, it's okay.  A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.

I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.

^^ what the dick with teeth said.

I avoided a lot of shit in my first year, but i wish I had not in retrospect. Especially considering all the stuff that happened that I couldnt avoid (kids birth/hospitalization, dads hospitalization/death, etc).

I think had I pushed through the triggering events in a more controlled, planned fashion (like the barner and his game, or planning to go fishing and stocking up on seeds/fireballs and letting some quit brothers know, etc) it would have made the unplanned events that were completely out of my control easier.

Either way, the message of your quit being the priority and not putting it at danger is a good one. But life WILL happen, and it WILL happen on its own terms and in my opinion its better to have some firing range time under your belt before you are truly tested.

Have no fear: no one is going to force you to dip. And (to paraphrase another quitter much smarter than I) you are an intelligent human and it is a plant. My bet is on you.

I love facing "trigger events" and winning because it makes me stronger. THE trigger event is approaching: the annual fly in duck hunt with the guys. I can't wait to enjoy the trip sans nic.

Yep. The nic bitch can get a little cocky. She thinks she owns a rugby field or a deer stand or a gas station. Sometimes it's fun just to walk in her "house", take a shit on the carpet, give her the finger and leave. If you see her, tell her you own this house as well.

:)

The Nic-Bitch will forever be a hellhound on your heels. Addicts can't forget that. Congrats on 500 and 501.

Print this out and carry it in your pocket:

FREEDOM!!!!!  -primal scream as I rip the patch off my shoulder

OK now I will try to post for real

That was the moment you took her head on. Own it. Don't let the bitch win, whether its a Rugby field, or a long drive, or after Christmas dinner.

Fuck her.

Couldn't agree more. Take her on and kick her ass everywhere you want to be. I wouldn't recommend that for someone with 20 days in, but once a quitter has some winning experiences it shouldn't be that difficult. Simply be prepared, you have the quit savvy to win again every time.

Maybe I'm not telling the full story...

waaaay before I was on KTC, I "stopped" for a year and a half when I got married in 2008. About 500 days, I suppose. And I went to an alumni game, "quit". I dipped that whole weekend like it was my last weekend on earth, and after the weekend was over, I "stopped" dipping again. Well that lasted until the next time I was out with my friends, and then stopped again... that led to being full-time over the course of a couple months.

I know what you're saying, and I should own this... but I really do value my quit more than I do playing rugby. I think I should play a match with dudes I don't know first, a local club, to get one under my belt on my terms. Luckily I get to wait until the spring, and develop a solid "rugby quit plan" that incorporates peripherals (gum/seeds/fireballs), calling a couple guys before/after the match just to reinforce the quit, and maybe a butt plug... not that I've ever tried one, but hey, it might help, why not.

I really appreciate everyone's opinion on this, it helps.