My introduction

[andrew]

Aha aha, well, I went online and ordered some hooch just in case it gets worse in the new few weeks...I feel like there's a change, from needing it physically to psychologically in the last few days.  I think anxiety more than anything else... I'm still kicking the shit out of nicotine, and I'm going to continue to!!

Because yours is the wallet that says "Bad Motherfucker" on it! You got this brudda.

MOA

Keep pushing Andrew, you got this shit. I'm on day 16 today and yesterday I noticed I had more craves then previous. Stupid. I have some of that smokey mountain crap but rarely use it. Once in a while I'll throw one in before bed. Usually only stays in a few minutes because once it's in I realize I don't need the shit. Haha. 'Crazy'

The psychological side is ridiculous!

Thanks man, I ordered some Hooch and I put in for a free trial of the Smokey Mountain stuff. I don't really need it right now, but by the time it mails to me I might be hurting. I probably should have thought about this earlier, it seems like the physical aspects are going away (I am sleeping better, I am actually starting to poop a bit...), but the cravings are getting a lot worse for some reason the past 2-3 days. I'll make it through, there's no chance of me caving....but if I can ease my mind at all that would be nice...my jaws hurt from chewing so much gum, and I've been eating way too many sunflower calories....

Another word of advice: Stay away from booze for a while.....We tend to make bad decisions when we drink too much. Ever brought home a whale? I rest my case. At least for a while stay sober and stay quit.

MOA

Easier done than said.....no alcohol here in Baghdad while deployed...

[minuteofangle]

Aha aha, well, I went online and ordered some hooch just in case it gets worse in the new few weeks...I feel like there's a change, from needing it physically to psychologically in the last few days.  I think anxiety more than anything else... I'm still kicking the shit out of nicotine, and I'm going to continue to!!

Because yours is the wallet that says "Bad Motherfucker" on it! You got this brudda.

MOA

Keep pushing Andrew, you got this shit. I'm on day 16 today and yesterday I noticed I had more craves then previous. Stupid. I have some of that smokey mountain crap but rarely use it. Once in a while I'll throw one in before bed. Usually only stays in a few minutes because once it's in I realize I don't need the shit. Haha. 'Crazy'

The psychological side is ridiculous!

Thanks man, I ordered some Hooch and I put in for a free trial of the Smokey Mountain stuff. I don't really need it right now, but by the time it mails to me I might be hurting. I probably should have thought about this earlier, it seems like the physical aspects are going away (I am sleeping better, I am actually starting to poop a bit...), but the cravings are getting a lot worse for some reason the past 2-3 days. I'll make it through, there's no chance of me caving....but if I can ease my mind at all that would be nice...my jaws hurt from chewing so much gum, and I've been eating way too many sunflower calories....

Another word of advice: Stay away from booze for a while.....We tend to make bad decisions when we drink too much. Ever brought home a whale? I rest my case. At least for a while stay sober and stay quit.

MOA

[andrew]

Aha aha, well, I went online and ordered some hooch just in case it gets worse in the new few weeks...I feel like there's a change, from needing it physically to psychologically in the last few days.  I think anxiety more than anything else... I'm still kicking the shit out of nicotine, and I'm going to continue to!!

Because yours is the wallet that says "Bad Motherfucker" on it! You got this brudda.

MOA

Keep pushing Andrew, you got this shit. I'm on day 16 today and yesterday I noticed I had more craves then previous. Stupid. I have some of that smokey mountain crap but rarely use it. Once in a while I'll throw one in before bed. Usually only stays in a few minutes because once it's in I realize I don't need the shit. Haha. 'Crazy'

The psychological side is ridiculous!

Thanks man, I ordered some Hooch and I put in for a free trial of the Smokey Mountain stuff. I don't really need it right now, but by the time it mails to me I might be hurting. I probably should have thought about this earlier, it seems like the physical aspects are going away (I am sleeping better, I am actually starting to poop a bit...), but the cravings are getting a lot worse for some reason the past 2-3 days. I'll make it through, there's no chance of me caving....but if I can ease my mind at all that would be nice...my jaws hurt from chewing so much gum, and I've been eating way too many sunflower calories....

[shortround]

Aha aha, well, I went online and ordered some hooch just in case it gets worse in the new few weeks...I feel like there's a change, from needing it physically to psychologically in the last few days.  I think anxiety more than anything else... I'm still kicking the shit out of nicotine, and I'm going to continue to!!

Because yours is the wallet that says "Bad Motherfucker" on it! You got this brudda.

MOA

Keep pushing Andrew, you got this shit. I'm on day 16 today and yesterday I noticed I had more craves then previous. Stupid. I have some of that smokey mountain crap but rarely use it. Once in a while I'll throw one in before bed. Usually only stays in a few minutes because once it's in I realize I don't need the shit. Haha. 'Crazy'

The psychological side is ridiculous!

[minuteofangle]

Aha aha, well, I went online and ordered some hooch just in case it gets worse in the new few weeks...I feel like there's a change, from needing it physically to psychologically in the last few days. I think anxiety more than anything else... I'm still kicking the shit out of nicotine, and I'm going to continue to!!

Because yours is the wallet that says "Bad Motherfucker" on it! You got this brudda.

MOA

[andrew]

Aha aha, well, I went online and ordered some hooch just in case it gets worse in the new few weeks...I feel like there's a change, from needing it physically to psychologically in the last few days. I think anxiety more than anything else... I'm still kicking the shit out of nicotine, and I'm going to continue to!!

[minuteofangle]

Man, I feel like I didn't sleep at all last night.  Today I am already dragging, and I can feel cravings and small rationalizations popping up in my head....and it's been three weeks.  I can't believe I'm still dealing with this stupid shit, it's driving me nuts.  I just want to be able to sleep all night long, wake up feeling great, and not think about dip once during the day....is that too much to ask?

Yes! It is too much to ask douche nozzle. You poisoned yourself for years it will take some time before you are free. The nic bitch will not give back your soul easily....you have to earn it back one day at a time.......Now the good news: You are one bad ass mofo and you gave me and about 7000 other bad mofos your word that you would not use tobacco today! Now that thats off the table for the day do something else!

MOA

[andrew]

Man, I feel like I didn't sleep at all last night. Today I am already dragging, and I can feel cravings and small rationalizations popping up in my head....and it's been three weeks. I can't believe I'm still dealing with this stupid shit, it's driving me nuts. I just want to be able to sleep all night long, wake up feeling great, and not think about dip once during the day....is that too much to ask?

[tony]

Doing great today...didn't crave yesterday almost at all....only have one craving today right after eating lunch. It passed fast, though...My tongue is still really taking it hard, though...there are sores on both sides and it's really painfully sensitive. Suck!

Hey thats great! I think its awesome that you gave it up, while you were over there. Not sure I could do the same thing.

[andrew]

Doing great today...didn't crave yesterday almost at all....only have one craving today right after eating lunch. It passed fast, though...My tongue is still really taking it hard, though...there are sores on both sides and it's really painfully sensitive. Suck!

[andrew]

I can't tell you how many times we have had guests over and I suddenly disappear into the bathroom for 10 minutes. It's a good thing the lady can entertain, because I'd be a terrible host. She always knew, too, since I'd leave my spitter in the bedroom bathroom if we had guests over. Man, I'm not going to miss those days at all.

[tony]

I did the milk gallon thing as a spitter..seriously, my apartment started to look like signs sometimes, only instead of water glasses, it was spitters. Then if I had someone coming over, I'd desperately try to throw em all out.

Ive been thinking it over some and had some realizations myself about how stupidly addicted Ive been to it. After taxes, I'd usually pay around $7/can. I mean..in 5 days..I've saved $35. Unless I ran over to Idaho and loaded up on cheap idaho logs, I had to really pay the price in WA. And when I ran out, I couldnt wait to drive to Idaho, I'd buy them in WA at their jacked up price instead.

I had to leave for NTC, for a month, so I bought 5 rolls to take with me-cost me around $170. I shouldve quit there because that was just dehydrating me and I had to drink even more water.

I'd go insane if I forgot a can, even if I was going to be within my 5 hour time window-that was the max I could safely go before I'd start to get panicky. And if I had a gf during the time of my addiction, I wouldn't tell her I dipped. I'd be a closet dipper-intentionally have to go take a shit now and then and sneak a pouch in there. Or take a drive to go get something. Its stupid.

And last night the stupid dreams started. It seemed like it was hours long-me staring at this ridiculously huge can of cope straight. Like a 3 foot wide can, just staring at it and someone was telling me to take a dip, the dream went away back to whatever it was before, and it interrupted my damn dream again.

[sapperred1]

Speaking of swimming. Did anyone else think the best thing about the newer MRE's was the little bag to heat water? A can fit in there perfect and would stay dry.

[Maverick55]

I think I'm starting to come around mentally. Sure, I still have triggers and cravings, but I'm beginning to see just how ridiculous all of that was. I used to hide cans of dip all over the place, just so that when I got done my "last" can I always had a spare hiding somewhere. I used to run out every night "just to get something out of the car" so I could grab a new can of dip and have a dip outside before going back inside and having the women be mad/sad with me. Remember when you would spit that giant hunk of shit out into a bottle and get it smeared all over your mouth? Remember when you would do that just so you could get a goodnight kiss? I do. I would stay up late playing video games or watching TV just to get that last uninterrupted dip in. I loved dip. I can see that now....I loved dip more than anything else in my life. More than my relationships, more than anything. I used to get mad when I couldn't find a spitter. I would spit into random things after that....just to piss her off for throwing out my spitters. She would come back home on a weekend and find me and a half-full gallon milk jug full of brown spit. How disgusting that was amazes me....how did I do that? How did I ever live like that?

Have you ever gone swimming with a dip in? I have. I swam out to my little raft holding my can of Grizzly over my head to keep it dry...that's how bad it was. I had so many people look at me and tell me "hey man, you have a problem" and I would just laugh and say "Yeah I do!". It's not funny in retrospect. Anyone ever driven through Illinois and paid 6+ dollars for tobacco, just because you needed a hit that badly? I did. Have you ever driven around the block just so you could smoke or dip in your car? I used to. Were you that guy that people always knew had an extra tin of dip on them? Not just a can, but two...just in case you ran out? I was.

I hated that life. I was a pusher, a user, a dealer......all of the above. I never want to go back to that, and I need you all to help me.....

Right there with you Andrew, ditto on the whole damn thing. I bought special water tight containers for our float trips so my dip wouldn't get wet. Ever smoke and dip at the same time? I did - what the HELL was I thinking there? Bought bottle water/Gatorade/soda only to dump most of it out just to have a spitter? Regardless of how ridiculous we've been in the past we've made the right decision, we've taken back control of our lives.

Glad you're coming out of that early suck - keep your guard up and stay active on this site. You'll go through a few more pot holes on your way to the HOF, don't let that bitch back in - you got this.

Proud to quit with you!

[andrew]

I think I'm starting to come around mentally. Sure, I still have triggers and cravings, but I'm beginning to see just how ridiculous all of that was. I used to hide cans of dip all over the place, just so that when I got done my "last" can I always had a spare hiding somewhere. I used to run out every night "just to get something out of the car" so I could grab a new can of dip and have a dip outside before going back inside and having the women be mad/sad with me. Remember when you would spit that giant hunk of shit out into a bottle and get it smeared all over your mouth? Remember when you would do that just so you could get a goodnight kiss? I do. I would stay up late playing video games or watching TV just to get that last uninterrupted dip in. I loved dip. I can see that now....I loved dip more than anything else in my life. More than my relationships, more than anything. I used to get mad when I couldn't find a spitter. I would spit into random things after that....just to piss her off for throwing out my spitters. She would come back home on a weekend and find me and a half-full gallon milk jug full of brown spit. How disgusting that was amazes me....how did I do that? How did I ever live like that?

Have you ever gone swimming with a dip in? I have. I swam out to my little raft holding my can of Grizzly over my head to keep it dry...that's how bad it was. I had so many people look at me and tell me "hey man, you have a problem" and I would just laugh and say "Yeah I do!". It's not funny in retrospect. Anyone ever driven through Illinois and paid 6+ dollars for tobacco, just because you needed a hit that badly? I did. Have you ever driven around the block just so you could smoke or dip in your car? I used to. Were you that guy that people always knew had an extra tin of dip on them? Not just a can, but two...just in case you ran out? I was.

I hated that life. I was a pusher, a user, a dealer......all of the above. I never want to go back to that, and I need you all to help me.....