Mthomastherapy

[Mthomas3824]

Thanks. Kind of what I thought. No matter what, I am just glad to be quit.

[Grizzly25]

So I have heard about dip dreams. I haven't had any except the other night, I dreamed that I looked in the mirror and saw white spots on my tongue. My dad who has been dead for 6 years now handed me a flashlight and I looked closer at my tongue.

That's it. However, it spurs this question...

Once you quit tobacco, I am sure the risk of cancer goes down but am I more at risk since I used for so long? Is it possible to get oral cancer when you are quit? I haven't been able to find an answer to that question.

Those are some of the bad dreams......

The sad fact is it is possible to still get cancer even without chewing tobacco, now the fact that some of us have chewed for 28+ years certainly doesnt help.

The good fact is now we are quit and we will no longer have tobacco as the main possible cause of cancer or sores in our mouths, we can move forward with a very very limited chance of cancer in our mouths!

The dreams you had and unfortunately will have are the sneaky way the nic-bitch tries to get her hold back on you, stay strong and fight her off quickly and keep your mind moving forward!

Stay focused stay strong stay quit!

[Kubrick]

You can get oral cancer anytime regardless of if you ever used or not. Cancer sucks. Best bet is to get screened at the dentist. Although I admit it's been about 9-10 months since my last dental visit B) , but she screened me then and things looked OK.

Another thing to worry about is throat and stomach cancer. And since I lost both my Dad and grandmother(his mom) to abdominal type cancers, I'm probably screwed.

[Mthomas3824]

So I have heard about dip dreams. I haven't had any except the other night, I dreamed that I looked in the mirror and saw white spots on my tongue. My dad who has been dead for 6 years now handed me a flashlight and I looked closer at my tongue.

That's it. However, it spurs this question...

Once you quit tobacco, I am sure the risk of cancer goes down but am I more at risk since I used for so long? Is it possible to get oral cancer when you are quit? I haven't been able to find an answer to that question.

[Mthomas3824]

I think the last time I wrote a poem, I was in 6th grade.  Here is my attempt years later....If there is a true writer in the group, please make this better.  I just got thinking about the heavy recruiting going on to enslave the youth.  Safe to say but 90% or more started between 12 and 18 yrs. 


Snake oil

As a youth full of insecurity,
I was writing the script of who I wanted to be,
Looking, watching and searching for a sign,
A salesman came calling and I stood in line.

He was animated and confident; what I wanted to be,
I was interested, I was tempted and full of curiosity,
“Whatever ales ya, this will cure, it’s so easy, you’ll see
Just try it once, If you don’t like it, I’ll let you be”.

Just a pinch between my cheek and gumÂ….
Wow, IÂ’m dizzy, IÂ’m buzzing, I think this is fun?
Do I like it, do I hate it, no worries IÂ’m just numb
I am brave, I am strong, and this snake oil is number one!

I wanted fun, I wanted help, I yearned to winÂ…
Now with more wisdom, my life outlook is pretty grim.
The salesmanÂ’s pitch was served with a silver forked tongue,
I partook and became a slave to something less valuable than dung.

So in my 40Â’s what can I do now?
IÂ’m an addict, IÂ’m a loser and to the can I must bow.

Or I can fight, I can bleed, I can cry but I can be free!
I will stand with my brothers and quitÂ…I now believe!!!

Freedom isnÂ’t free, you must fight and exclaim,
I want to be free and IÂ’m done being ashamed.
Yes IÂ’m an addict; arenÂ’t we all are to some extent?
But we are children of God his blood was well spent!

It took me time to understand and now I know,
Tobacco is evil, the great lie, and itÂ’s just a false show.
It robs you of freedom, you lose your dignity
As I climb this mountain, I daily claim, "VICTORY"!!!

I look back to my youth, with a question unanswered,
I am still writing my script, of triumph, not so absurd
I am wise, I am a man, my eyes open, now see,
Who I am...a TRUE MAN WITH, INTEGRITY!!!

This is dedicated to the young and the free,
When the snake oils salesman comes, donÂ’t be like me.
Run, fight, kick and Scream, this is evil, avoid itÂ…and let it be.

The easiest way to battle the bitch is to always remain free.

That is some good shit right there. Hope you don't mind but I copy and pasted it to Microsoft Word, printed it out and am keeping a copy of it. All credit to you though, would never try to steal someones thunder. You the man. Great to be quit with you. If you ever do cave I will hunt you down and kill you!!! Think about that the next time you are close to buying a can or bumming one off a friend. It is great to be quit with you and your writings are what I need - keep it up!

Cool no copy-write and not concerned about the glory. Use it, make it better just tell me it helps to stay quit and that's all I need.

Also, If I cave, I want you to come kill me. That is the compassionate thing to do. In fact, load up the whole June Platoon party bus style. Come to Salt Lake City and make the killing so bad that it is on National News.

My philosophy is to put it all on the line. MY WORD, MY REPUTATION, MY COMMITMENT. The higher you are, the more real the fall. So it causes soberness and safety measures to prevent the slightest slip up.

I am quit and just working daily to always back it up.

I'm going to get that damn coin and it will take me exactly 100 days to earn it.


Stay Quit! (Stay quit is almost like Jedi's saying, "May the force be with you" isn't it?)

[ntartick]

I think the last time I wrote a poem, I was in 6th grade. Here is my attempt years later....If there is a true writer in the group, please make this better. I just got thinking about the heavy recruiting going on to enslave the youth. Safe to say but 90% or more started between 12 and 18 yrs.


Snake oil

As a youth full of insecurity,
I was writing the script of who I wanted to be,
Looking, watching and searching for a sign,
A salesman came calling and I stood in line.

He was animated and confident; what I wanted to be,
I was interested, I was tempted and full of curiosity,
“Whatever ales ya, this will cure, it’s so easy, you’ll see
Just try it once, If you don’t like it, I’ll let you be”.

Just a pinch between my cheek and gumÂ….
Wow, IÂ’m dizzy, IÂ’m buzzing, I think this is fun?
Do I like it, do I hate it, no worries IÂ’m just numb
I am brave, I am strong, and this snake oil is number one!

I wanted fun, I wanted help, I yearned to winÂ…
Now with more wisdom, my life outlook is pretty grim.
The salesmanÂ’s pitch was served with a silver forked tongue,
I partook and became a slave to something less valuable than dung.

So in my 40Â’s what can I do now?
IÂ’m an addict, IÂ’m a loser and to the can I must bow.

Or I can fight, I can bleed, I can cry but I can be free!
I will stand with my brothers and quitÂ…I now believe!!!

Freedom isnÂ’t free, you must fight and exclaim,
I want to be free and IÂ’m done being ashamed.
Yes IÂ’m an addict; arenÂ’t we all are to some extent?
But we are children of God his blood was well spent!

It took me time to understand and now I know,
Tobacco is evil, the great lie, and itÂ’s just a false show.
It robs you of freedom, you lose your dignity
As I climb this mountain, I daily claim, "VICTORY"!!!

I look back to my youth, with a question unanswered,
I am still writing my script, of triumph, not so absurd
I am wise, I am a man, my eyes open, now see,
Who I am...a TRUE MAN WITH, INTEGRITY!!!

This is dedicated to the young and the free,
When the snake oils salesman comes, donÂ’t be like me.
Run, fight, kick and Scream, this is evil, avoid itÂ…and let it be.

The easiest way to battle the bitch is to always remain free.

Great stuff. Keep up the quit and if you cave, I'm riding shotgun with Suck-it.

[Suck-It]

I think the last time I wrote a poem, I was in 6th grade.  Here is my attempt years later....If there is a true writer in the group, please make this better.  I just got thinking about the heavy recruiting going on to enslave the youth.  Safe to say but 90% or more started between 12 and 18 yrs. 


Snake oil

As a youth full of insecurity,
I was writing the script of who I wanted to be,
Looking, watching and searching for a sign,
A salesman came calling and I stood in line.

He was animated and confident; what I wanted to be,
I was interested, I was tempted and full of curiosity,
“Whatever ales ya, this will cure, it’s so easy, you’ll see
Just try it once, If you don’t like it, I’ll let you be”.

Just a pinch between my cheek and gumÂ….
Wow, IÂ’m dizzy, IÂ’m buzzing, I think this is fun?
Do I like it, do I hate it, no worries IÂ’m just numb
I am brave, I am strong, and this snake oil is number one!

I wanted fun, I wanted help, I yearned to winÂ…
Now with more wisdom, my life outlook is pretty grim.
The salesmanÂ’s pitch was served with a silver forked tongue,
I partook and became a slave to something less valuable than dung.

So in my 40Â’s what can I do now?
IÂ’m an addict, IÂ’m a loser and to the can I must bow.

Or I can fight, I can bleed, I can cry but I can be free!
I will stand with my brothers and quitÂ…I now believe!!!

Freedom isnÂ’t free, you must fight and exclaim,
I want to be free and IÂ’m done being ashamed.
Yes IÂ’m an addict; arenÂ’t we all are to some extent?
But we are children of God his blood was well spent!

It took me time to understand and now I know,
Tobacco is evil, the great lie, and itÂ’s just a false show.
It robs you of freedom, you lose your dignity
As I climb this mountain, I daily claim, "VICTORY"!!!

I look back to my youth, with a question unanswered,
I am still writing my script, of triumph, not so absurd
I am wise, I am a man, my eyes open, now see,
Who I am...a TRUE MAN WITH, INTEGRITY!!!

This is dedicated to the young and the free,
When the snake oils salesman comes, donÂ’t be like me.
Run, fight, kick and Scream, this is evil, avoid itÂ…and let it be.

The easiest way to battle the bitch is to always remain free.

That is some good shit right there. Hope you don't mind but I copy and pasted it to Microsoft Word, printed it out and am keeping a copy of it. All credit to you though, would never try to steal someones thunder. You the man. Great to be quit with you. If you ever do cave I will hunt you down and kill you!!! Think about that the next time you are close to buying a can or bumming one off a friend. It is great to be quit with you and your writings are what I need - keep it up!

[Grizzly25]

I think the last time I wrote a poem, I was in 6th grade. Here is my attempt years later....If there is a true writer in the group, please make this better. I just got thinking about the heavy recruiting going on to enslave the youth. Safe to say but 90% or more started between 12 and 18 yrs.


Snake oil

As a youth full of insecurity,
I was writing the script of who I wanted to be,
Looking, watching and searching for a sign,
A salesman came calling and I stood in line.

He was animated and confident; what I wanted to be,
I was interested, I was tempted and full of curiosity,
“Whatever ales ya, this will cure, it’s so easy, you’ll see
Just try it once, If you don’t like it, I’ll let you be”.

Just a pinch between my cheek and gumÂ….
Wow, IÂ’m dizzy, IÂ’m buzzing, I think this is fun?
Do I like it, do I hate it, no worries IÂ’m just numb
I am brave, I am strong, and this snake oil is number one!

I wanted fun, I wanted help, I yearned to winÂ…
Now with more wisdom, my life outlook is pretty grim.
The salesmanÂ’s pitch was served with a silver forked tongue,
I partook and became a slave to something less valuable than dung.

So in my 40Â’s what can I do now?
IÂ’m an addict, IÂ’m a loser and to the can I must bow.

Or I can fight, I can bleed, I can cry but I can be free!
I will stand with my brothers and quitÂ…I now believe!!!

Freedom isnÂ’t free, you must fight and exclaim,
I want to be free and IÂ’m done being ashamed.
Yes IÂ’m an addict; arenÂ’t we all are to some extent?
But we are children of God his blood was well spent!

It took me time to understand and now I know,
Tobacco is evil, the great lie, and itÂ’s just a false show.
It robs you of freedom, you lose your dignity
As I climb this mountain, I daily claim, "VICTORY"!!!

I look back to my youth, with a question unanswered,
I am still writing my script, of triumph, not so absurd
I am wise, I am a man, my eyes open, now see,
Who I am...a TRUE MAN WITH, INTEGRITY!!!

This is dedicated to the young and the free,
When the snake oils salesman comes, donÂ’t be like me.
Run, fight, kick and Scream, this is evil, avoid itÂ…and let it be.

The easiest way to battle the bitch is to always remain free.

Great message!

Good to not want to continue the bad choices of my youth!

Fucking snake oil.........

[Mthomas3824]

I think the last time I wrote a poem, I was in 6th grade. Here is my attempt years later....If there is a true writer in the group, please make this better. I just got thinking about the heavy recruiting going on to enslave the youth. Safe to say but 90% or more started between 12 and 18 yrs.


Snake oil

As a youth full of insecurity,
I was writing the script of who I wanted to be,
Looking, watching and searching for a sign,
A salesman came calling and I stood in line.

He was animated and confident; what I wanted to be,
I was interested, I was tempted and full of curiosity,
“Whatever ales ya, this will cure, it’s so easy, you’ll see
Just try it once, If you don’t like it, I’ll let you be”.

Just a pinch between my cheek and gumÂ….
Wow, IÂ’m dizzy, IÂ’m buzzing, I think this is fun?
Do I like it, do I hate it, no worries IÂ’m just numb
I am brave, I am strong, and this snake oil is number one!

I wanted fun, I wanted help, I yearned to winÂ…
Now with more wisdom, my life outlook is pretty grim.
The salesmanÂ’s pitch was served with a silver forked tongue,
I partook and became a slave to something less valuable than dung.

So in my 40Â’s what can I do now?
IÂ’m an addict, IÂ’m a loser and to the can I must bow.

Or I can fight, I can bleed, I can cry but I can be free!
I will stand with my brothers and quitÂ…I now believe!!!

Freedom isnÂ’t free, you must fight and exclaim,
I want to be free and IÂ’m done being ashamed.
Yes IÂ’m an addict; arenÂ’t we all are to some extent?
But we are children of God his blood was well spent!

It took me time to understand and now I know,
Tobacco is evil, the great lie, and itÂ’s just a false show.
It robs you of freedom, you lose your dignity
As I climb this mountain, I daily claim, "VICTORY"!!!

I look back to my youth, with a question unanswered,
I am still writing my script, of triumph, not so absurd
I am wise, I am a man, my eyes open, now see,
Who I am...a TRUE MAN WITH, INTEGRITY!!!

This is dedicated to the young and the free,
When the snake oils salesman comes, donÂ’t be like me.
Run, fight, kick and Scream, this is evil, avoid itÂ…and let it be.

The easiest way to battle the bitch is to always remain free.

[Grizzly25]

Day 13  Really confident on how easy this is.  I have done so much reading.  Tobacco companies estimate that (daily) 4,000 users quit or die.  Their goal is to recruit (daily) 5,000 new tobacco users.  They target 6th - 9th grade boys for chewing tobacco.  Makes me sick. 

Day 14 I am really angry and want to start an all out education war.  I get home tonight.  After I eat, I get really down and lose all motivation and desire.  Sleep for a little bit, wake up and feel anxious and sweating.  Not sure what happened but my attitude had taken a 180 degree turn.  I just feel like doing nothing.  I usually go to the gym to clear my mind.  No desire, just lay there.  

Day 15  Made sure to post roll first thing this morning.  Other than that, I don't care much about today and the battle.  Maybe I hit the funk?  If I did, it is amazing how sudden it hit me.  Just going to ride out this storm.  I am sure its just a phase.  Caving is not an option or even a desire.  I'm just blah and high strung today.  (Maybe to much information but I haven't gone #2 since Saturday. 3+ days is a long time for me. I'm a pretty regular guy.)

Those funks will pass my Brother, hang tough.

Keep posting your thoughts here.

I think a lot of us are there. You can do it, hang tough.

Hey bro - I just posted in my intro and in our quit group. Day 33 is sucking balls for me right now. Have slept terribly the last couple nights, and today, feel the same way you described yourself. Driving to work the past 2 days I have really missed having a dip with coffee. Now, like you said, caving is NOT an option, but for some reason I have missed it more these past couple days than the entire quit so far.

This is not to discourage you for down the road issues, this is just to let you know that you are not alone. We are fighting this shit together and there are others going through the hurt right now. Typing it out is helping me cause I am starting to flip my attitude into more of a pissed off Fuck it attitude at the bitch. Gonna start punching back harder right now. Headed to the weight room - time to get it on and sweat this shit out.

Your not alone brother - we will get through this. Grind it out one day at a time.

Stay focused just like you are these craves and urges and hyperness are so similiar to mine it all strangely sounds so familiar.....

You have the right plan go kick your own ass then that way you really calm yourself down and dont want to kick anyone elses ass!

Stray quit stay strong bro!!

Text me or PM if you need to vent or well whatever I can do to help!

[Mthomas3824]

Great call. I am going to the gym after work tonight at all costs. No matter how I feel it is time to sweat it out! Thanks for helping me turn a corner on my attitude. Way to lead the charge and I'm right behind you...Watching your back. 'biggun'

[Suck-It]

Day 13  Really confident on how easy this is.  I have done so much reading.  Tobacco companies estimate that (daily) 4,000 users quit or die.  Their goal is to recruit (daily) 5,000 new tobacco users.  They target 6th - 9th grade boys for chewing tobacco.  Makes me sick. 

Day 14 I am really angry and want to start an all out education war.  I get home tonight.  After I eat, I get really down and lose all motivation and desire.  Sleep for a little bit, wake up and feel anxious and sweating.  Not sure what happened but my attitude had taken a 180 degree turn.  I just feel like doing nothing.  I usually go to the gym to clear my mind.  No desire, just lay there.  

Day 15  Made sure to post roll first thing this morning.  Other than that, I don't care much about today and the battle.  Maybe I hit the funk?  If I did, it is amazing how sudden it hit me.  Just going to ride out this storm.  I am sure its just a phase.  Caving is not an option or even a desire.  I'm just blah and high strung today.  (Maybe to much information but I haven't gone #2 since Saturday. 3+ days is a long time for me. I'm a pretty regular guy.)

Those funks will pass my Brother, hang tough.

Keep posting your thoughts here.

I think a lot of us are there. You can do it, hang tough.

Hey bro - I just posted in my intro and in our quit group. Day 33 is sucking balls for me right now. Have slept terribly the last couple nights, and today, feel the same way you described yourself. Driving to work the past 2 days I have really missed having a dip with coffee. Now, like you said, caving is NOT an option, but for some reason I have missed it more these past couple days than the entire quit so far.

This is not to discourage you for down the road issues, this is just to let you know that you are not alone. We are fighting this shit together and there are others going through the hurt right now. Typing it out is helping me cause I am starting to flip my attitude into more of a pissed off Fuck it attitude at the bitch. Gonna start punching back harder right now. Headed to the weight room - time to get it on and sweat this shit out.

Your not alone brother - we will get through this. Grind it out one day at a time.

[ntartick]

Day 13  Really confident on how easy this is.  I have done so much reading.  Tobacco companies estimate that (daily) 4,000 users quit or die.  Their goal is to recruit (daily) 5,000 new tobacco users.  They target 6th - 9th grade boys for chewing tobacco.  Makes me sick. 

Day 14 I am really angry and want to start an all out education war.  I get home tonight.  After I eat, I get really down and lose all motivation and desire.  Sleep for a little bit, wake up and feel anxious and sweating.  Not sure what happened but my attitude had taken a 180 degree turn.  I just feel like doing nothing.  I usually go to the gym to clear my mind.  No desire, just lay there. 

Day 15  Made sure to post roll first thing this morning.  Other than that, I don't care much about today and the battle.  Maybe I hit the funk?  If I did, it is amazing how sudden it hit me.  Just going to ride out this storm.  I am sure its just a phase.  Caving is not an option or even a desire.  I'm just blah and high strung today.  (Maybe to much information but I haven't gone #2 since Saturday. 3+ days is a long time for me. I'm a pretty regular guy.)

Those funks will pass my Brother, hang tough.

Keep posting your thoughts here.

I think a lot of us are there. You can do it, hang tough.

[raiderx]

I feel ya MT. Going through a little bit of that myself. Hang in man

[miles]

Day 13 Really confident on how easy this is. I have done so much reading. Tobacco companies estimate that (daily) 4,000 users quit or die. Their goal is to recruit (daily) 5,000 new tobacco users. They target 6th - 9th grade boys for chewing tobacco. Makes me sick.

Day 14 I am really angry and want to start an all out education war. I get home tonight. After I eat, I get really down and lose all motivation and desire. Sleep for a little bit, wake up and feel anxious and sweating. Not sure what happened but my attitude had taken a 180 degree turn. I just feel like doing nothing. I usually go to the gym to clear my mind. No desire, just lay there.

Day 15 Made sure to post roll first thing this morning. Other than that, I don't care much about today and the battle. Maybe I hit the funk? If I did, it is amazing how sudden it hit me. Just going to ride out this storm. I am sure its just a phase. Caving is not an option or even a desire. I'm just blah and high strung today. (Maybe to much information but I haven't gone #2 since Saturday. 3+ days is a long time for me. I'm a pretty regular guy.)

Those funks will pass my Brother, hang tough.

Keep posting your thoughts here.