Mthomastherapy

[jaginvest]

Along the same lines, I get a PM that delivers the fact that people are going to do what they want to do.  So some people just wont post roll.....back up with the comment...."But that doesn't keep us from trying"

Since that was me, let me explain.

You still don't get it.

MT, you're hurting right now man. Call it a funk, whatever. You're hurting and a bunch of us are identifying that. We're your life line. Right. Now.

You keep pushing back, and it is classic addict thinking. You need to breathe brother. Breathe.

Quit 263 days and counting. I know it isn't ever done or over.

Funk, hurting, hell I haven't been quit this many days I a row for a long time.

I hate nicotine, I post daily and the 30 lbs I put on are gone.

I hurt? If I am, I can't identify why.

I just think loot needs to get his head on straight and quit encouraging addicts to leave.

His mentality is not what I got from KTC but if you back him? That's what would hurt.

He needs to be reprimanded. He is a piss poor example and representative of KTC.

If he's not and his treatment of quitters is okay with KTC, then I do need to go.

My goals and KTC objectives will never align. Addicts don't only need to quit, they need to gain confidence and self respect. Loot doesn't see that equation. Most do. I think he can learn but not until you guys stop backing him when he fucks up. Support him, sure. Reprimand his action yes.

I am done until tooL opens his yapper and says something stupid. Truce until he throws a punch again..

Just stay quit. Post roll, fuck the rest of the bullshit in the threads. It is not important, only the quit is. Quit with you all day brother. Thanks for the text yesterday...QLAFM

[Mthomas3824]

Along the same lines, I get a PM that delivers the fact that people are going to do what they want to do.  So some people just wont post roll.....back up with the comment...."But that doesn't keep us from trying"

Since that was me, let me explain.

You still don't get it.

MT, you're hurting right now man. Call it a funk, whatever. You're hurting and a bunch of us are identifying that. We're your life line. Right. Now.

You keep pushing back, and it is classic addict thinking. You need to breathe brother. Breathe.

Quit 263 days and counting. I know it isn't ever done or over.

Funk, hurting, hell I haven't been quit this many days I a row for a long time.

I hate nicotine, I post daily and the 30 lbs I put on are gone.

I hurt? If I am, I can't identify why.

I just think loot needs to get his head on straight and quit encouraging addicts to leave.

His mentality is not what I got from KTC but if you back him? That's what would hurt.

He needs to be reprimanded. He is a piss poor example and representative of KTC.

If he's not and his treatment of quitters is okay with KTC, then I do need to go.

My goals and KTC objectives will never align. Addicts don't only need to quit, they need to gain confidence and self respect. Loot doesn't see that equation. Most do. I think he can learn but not until you guys stop backing him when he fucks up. Support him, sure. Reprimand his action yes.

I am done until tooL opens his yapper and says something stupid. Truce until he throws a punch again..

[Mthomas3824]

Uh...werent you leaving to go play in another sandbox?

Cookoo cookoo

Talk about mood swings

Sheesh

Tool,

'Finger'

'loot03'

I was asked to reconsider my decision. I did.

You called me a cunt, mocked me, and are nothing but disrespectful. This sandbox is just fine for me. I realized the majority of quitters here are what makes it great. You don't know tough love. You are a dick.

Dicks like you are why they say, "leave the rest." You keep telling people to leave, gtfo etc. did it ever dawn on you that you might be the problem that people don't want to deal with your cyber tough guy shit? Support? Tough love? Just a crock of shit.

Question for you. If you really were concerned about SWJ posting roll and being quit, why didn't you text or call him? Why was it a shit storm in June? Was it really about SWJ or could it be another motivation? Call or text him next time. He always responds....unless your a dick. I doubt he would take your call. Tell you what, spend your time in other groups. June sandbox doesn't care for your support. It is counter productive.

You curse someone who is quit for not posting but accept a caver who did so much good for the site but won't post a day one and quit again? Badger aquaman and get him to post a day one. Please don't excuse his cave and hold him in high regard. Cavers come back and quit. I respect that, i think we all understand that. Aquaman...That is just weird?

How do you justify treating quiters with an undefeated records on this program with So much disrespect and aqua is honored by you?

Please explain that.



Sheesh

[Mjollnir]

And I would like to explain my comment on "one day at a time".

Many years ago, when I was sober only a week or so I was terrified that I would be struck drunk. Sound stupid? It is, but in the mind of an almost dead drunk who just dried out, anything like that was possible.

People were saying "one day at a time" and I could not wrap my mind around that because I never wanted to be where I was again. And I was scared. Real scared. One of the older guys, who had a couple of years told me something that gave me solice, and I kept it and I use it in my nicotine quit.

That piece of solice was that I never had to be drunk again, and it was my choice. He asked me one simple question after telling me that. "What did I need to do to get drunk?" The answer was easy. Drink. Just one. Because one is too many, and a thousand aren't enough.


AA is based on a spiritual foundation and I found/find such things a little spooky. Asking god to keep me from getting drunk infered that I could just be struck drunk if I did not adhere to the principles. It may sound crazy, but at the time, I was a nut case.


My sobriety was and is based on my own will. My quit is based on my own will. It is strenghtned by the people on this site who I have developed relationships with.

I feel it is my responsibility to lay on the table all the tools at my disposal, regardless of how others may feel about them. Many do disagree with my "you never have to do that again", but some have taken it to heart. It would be wrong of me, and anyone else on this site to deny anyone of their personal experience in quitting.

As for you, welcome to the real tough part. Having problems? That is what we are all here for. I know a little about how this all works and after a time, it isn't just about the drug anymore, it is about how you handle life on life's terms without the help of, well, anything.

Bitch all you want, when the dust settles, be here, be calm. Let us help you if we can.

David.

[Nolaq]

Along the same lines, I get a PM that delivers the fact that people are going to do what they want to do. So some people just wont post roll.....back up with the comment...."But that doesn't keep us from trying"

Since that was me, let me explain.

You still don't get it.

MT, you're hurting right now man. Call it a funk, whatever. You're hurting and a bunch of us are identifying that. We're your life line. Right. Now.

You keep pushing back, and it is classic addict thinking. You need to breathe brother. Breathe.

[Nolaq]

So I hope I never post a day 1 gentlemen.

You still don't get it.

[30yraddict]

well. hmmm. pretty damn good rant. That's not to say that I agree with what you said, but pretty good rant, nonetheless. I think there are many of us on this site that would STRONGLY disagree with your opinion of LooTs support. I happen to value it quite highly. Mthomas, this is QSXtreme. That means you are more likely to get tough love than sweet nothings in your ear. It's a technique that works for many, but it is not for everyone.

SWJ.....SWJ used this site a while before I got here. He drifted then caved. He came back, and now he is missing Roll quite frequently. It's true we can't force anyone to post roll, can't force them to stay quit, but we can call them out when we see them being careless with their quit- especially when they have already failed because of carelessness. It's actually our obligation to call them out. Just the same as if your little brother was playing with fire, you wouldn't sit idly by and let him get burnt.

Your illustration of the greatest among us that have fallen actually underscores the need to stay vigilant. I cannot imagine why swj would not spend 2 minutes of his day to post roll. I cannot think of a reason that would hold any water. The only conclusion that I can draw is that he is drifting. I know that is dangerous, and, strangely enough, I think he knows that it's dangerous as well.

[loot]

Uh...werent you leaving to go play in another sandbox?

Cookoo cookoo

Talk about mood swings

Sheesh

[Mthomas3824]

First of all,

I appreciate all the nice texts and encouragement from my quit brothers and sister. They know who they are.

To those that pound themselves on the chest and think you are a hero. Lets Do this. Its go time!

....Clearing throat.....LOOT you are a fucking comedy!!!!

Pull your head out of your ass, spit out the foreskin you are chewing on. Is tunC your clever way of spelling Cunt? LOOT (in case you read backwords....tooL.) your support is weak ass shit! No I am not going to PM you. I don't care enough to keep this between you and me. You want to show off your support for SWJ? Your support sucks ass.

If you care about other peoples quit. Stop pounding your chest and selling to us what a great supporter you are. Just be real about helping and supporting. Who the fuck are you to tell people to take their ball and go home? Like that is some sort of reverse psychology to get someone to prove to you that they want to be here.

That tatic works on your little league baseball team you dumb, small minded little bitch! Do me a favor and go get your strap on and fuck yourself...DICKLESS.

For those that didn't appreciate the language, I had to write like this so dickbreath could understand.

Next: Coach doc, Kana, Mjollnir

I disagree. Respect your thinking but disagree. I can only quit today. I have no idea what tomorrow brings. I hope I am quit for life. As each day goes by I will have faith that I am quit for life. Faith will become so strong that I might feel like I know I am quit for life....however none of will be able to say we are quit for life until we die. No one has a crystal ball. Some of the greatest among us have fallen. (Aquaman - Fuck you loser, can humping son of a bitch!) You did good for the site but you caved. Never came back, still using. You are a fallen angel.

So I hope I never post a day 1 gentlemen.

Along the same lines, I get a PM that delivers the fact that people are going to do what they want to do. So some people just wont post roll.....back up with the comment...."But that doesn't keep us from trying"

Very easily could be a mis statement. I'll give you that. However, Try isn't in our vocabulary right admins and moderators? You teach correct principles of quit. Reach out and offer support. If you can only lead a horse to water but they have to drink...then you are doing something. I don't see try in there. Support and they can choose to use it or not.

So curse me for saying HOPE. I curse the support here for saying TRY.

Finally,

2 words

FUCKING tooL

I am quit, I am here, and I am here not for anything else but that I had a few texts telling me that my actions impacted their quit. I would fall on my words and eat them if it can have a positive impact and keep a fellow quitter from surrendering and humping the evil in a can.

I apologize to any that I hurt on fighting the nic demons. I am strong and I am 262 days quit. I am posting but I am taking what I need. Support and allies in quit. I leave the rest. I will encourage new quitters.

LOOT take your ball and go home. JV is done. THE VARSITY TEAM'S taking the field.



'Finger' 'arse' 'FU' 'loot03' :rustaf1:

[CoachDoc]

How in the Hell do you go from THIS:

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Day 259

Today is a great day.  First and foremost, I quit today.  Second, I got on the scale.  My weight is back to my Day 1 post.  What a great feeling. 

Anyone battling today (Especially those pre - 100 days quit) Stay in the fight and win it! 

You may wonder why fight the triggers, is it possible to be quit for life?  Blah Blah Blah! 

IT IS AND IT IS GREAT!!!!

I have had so many successes that I attribute to quitting nicotine and freeing my mind from that poison.  Now it hasn't been all sunshine and puppy dogs.  I have had some tough days but the experiences without nicotine was better.  You see I delt with my issues vs. finding an escape or reason to hump my can of tobacco. 

I still have 10 more pounds to go but I am back where I left off and I am dip free.  I also saved 1,600 dollars that I used to purchase guns.

It is better to be quit.  Trust me.    'fat'

To THIS:

Day 260

I don't intend to create any drama.  My intent is to post this so no one assumes I faded away or planned a cave. 

This is my official resignation letter from KTC.  The principles taught here are the correct principles for me to control my addiction.  Pretty simple really:

- Quit only for today
- Post Roll
- Keep your word
- Get involve by asking for support and giving support
- If tomorrow becomes today....repeat. 

That is the wisdom and simplicity of quit.  It was hell, It was a battle and now I am tasting and loving the sweetness of being free from that vice.  Yes I hate nicotine, I hate the tobacco industry in America and I never, ever will empathize or hold that industry blameless for my addiction and other peoples cancer!  They are an ugly, rotten group of slugs.  (Spare me the soda, and McDonald's comparison too.)  Compare them to a terrorist organization and tell me why you don't hold them accountable for their actions!    

I am and always will be an addict so I will continue to apply these principles.  The only way I will every post roll here is if I cave so I hope you never have to see a post of day 1 here from me. 

The grass is growing under my feet and its time to move on.  Most people don't like change.  I love change and new experiences.  It is just my time to change. 

The principles here are correct and if you follow them with exactness, you can not and will not fall victim to nicotine ever again! 

However, some of you dogs and pigs of quitting will ultimately return to your vomit or wallow in the mire yet again.  That is as much a fact as we all are human.  However, any quitter who believes and follows these principles will remain free from this vice for the rest of their life. 

Who are you and what do you believe?  The principles are taught, preached and encouraged over and over and over here.  You have your agency to post roll and repeat or to ignore and surrender to the evil in a can. 

So those brothers that are in my phone, I am not deleting or abandoning you.  My phone is open for support 24/7. 

I love KTC and thank her for being here for me when I needed a Mentor to get me through the suck.  I embraced the suck and posted roll 100%  That is how I stayed quit.  

For those that think or say that this is a planned cave.  I don't care.  This is my quit and I have owned it since day 1 I will continue to own it. 

Stay quit.

In ONE day? :huh:

1 word

tnuC

I think he is posting with ”The Quit”. basically I read ”Fuck you”.

I would say I support you in anyway if it helps your quit.. But, then I read the word "HOPE" in your post.. To me this means you haven't accepted reality yet, and you still have some dark matter. If you were ready you would've said " You will NEVER see me post a day 1 again" read your own words, They have doubt interlaced. Be careful bro.. 'finger point'

*sloooow clap*

Fuggin awesome when they get it. Hope is not a word that belongs in any post, for any reason on this board. In fact, there should be a word filter for it and a sharp stick in the eye coming out of your monitor if you even think it.

Mthomastherapy, you DO NOT get it...

You say, "The principles here are correct and if you follow them with exactness, you can not and will not fall victim to nicotine ever again!"

By your own admission, you are already saying that you will FAIL...because you are not following the principles of this site.

Since you are saying that you "hope" to never post another day of roll here, then I will keep within the context of your thought process regarding this quit and wish you "Good Luck" with that.

- CoachDoc

[loot]

How in the Hell do you go from THIS:

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Day 259

Today is a great day.  First and foremost, I quit today.  Second, I got on the scale.  My weight is back to my Day 1 post.  What a great feeling. 

Anyone battling today (Especially those pre - 100 days quit) Stay in the fight and win it! 

You may wonder why fight the triggers, is it possible to be quit for life?  Blah Blah Blah! 

IT IS AND IT IS GREAT!!!!

I have had so many successes that I attribute to quitting nicotine and freeing my mind from that poison.  Now it hasn't been all sunshine and puppy dogs.  I have had some tough days but the experiences without nicotine was better.  You see I delt with my issues vs. finding an escape or reason to hump my can of tobacco. 

I still have 10 more pounds to go but I am back where I left off and I am dip free.  I also saved 1,600 dollars that I used to purchase guns.

It is better to be quit.  Trust me.    'fat'

To THIS:

Day 260

I don't intend to create any drama.  My intent is to post this so no one assumes I faded away or planned a cave. 

This is my official resignation letter from KTC.  The principles taught here are the correct principles for me to control my addiction.  Pretty simple really:

- Quit only for today
- Post Roll
- Keep your word
- Get involve by asking for support and giving support
- If tomorrow becomes today....repeat. 

That is the wisdom and simplicity of quit.  It was hell, It was a battle and now I am tasting and loving the sweetness of being free from that vice.  Yes I hate nicotine, I hate the tobacco industry in America and I never, ever will empathize or hold that industry blameless for my addiction and other peoples cancer!  They are an ugly, rotten group of slugs.  (Spare me the soda, and McDonald's comparison too.)  Compare them to a terrorist organization and tell me why you don't hold them accountable for their actions!    

I am and always will be an addict so I will continue to apply these principles.  The only way I will every post roll here is if I cave so I hope you never have to see a post of day 1 here from me. 

The grass is growing under my feet and its time to move on.  Most people don't like change.  I love change and new experiences.  It is just my time to change. 

The principles here are correct and if you follow them with exactness, you can not and will not fall victim to nicotine ever again! 

However, some of you dogs and pigs of quitting will ultimately return to your vomit or wallow in the mire yet again.  That is as much a fact as we all are human.  However, any quitter who believes and follows these principles will remain free from this vice for the rest of their life. 

Who are you and what do you believe?  The principles are taught, preached and encouraged over and over and over here.  You have your agency to post roll and repeat or to ignore and surrender to the evil in a can. 

So those brothers that are in my phone, I am not deleting or abandoning you.  My phone is open for support 24/7. 

I love KTC and thank her for being here for me when I needed a Mentor to get me through the suck.  I embraced the suck and posted roll 100%  That is how I stayed quit.  

For those that think or say that this is a planned cave.  I don't care.  This is my quit and I have owned it since day 1 I will continue to own it. 

Stay quit.

In ONE day? :huh:

1 word

tnuC

I think he is posting with ”The Quit”. basically I read ”Fuck you”.

I would say I support you in anyway if it helps your quit.. But, then I read the word "HOPE" in your post.. To me this means you haven't accepted reality yet, and you still have some dark matter. If you were ready you would've said " You will NEVER see me post a day 1 again" read your own words, They have doubt interlaced. Be careful bro.. 'finger point'

*sloooow clap*

Fuggin awesome when they get it. Hope is not a word that belongs in any post, for any reason on this board. In fact, there should be a word filter for it and a sharp stick in the eye coming out of your monitor if you even think it.

[kana]

How in the Hell do you go from THIS:

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Day 259

Today is a great day.  First and foremost, I quit today.  Second, I got on the scale.  My weight is back to my Day 1 post.  What a great feeling. 

Anyone battling today (Especially those pre - 100 days quit) Stay in the fight and win it! 

You may wonder why fight the triggers, is it possible to be quit for life?  Blah Blah Blah! 

IT IS AND IT IS GREAT!!!!

I have had so many successes that I attribute to quitting nicotine and freeing my mind from that poison.  Now it hasn't been all sunshine and puppy dogs.  I have had some tough days but the experiences without nicotine was better.  You see I delt with my issues vs. finding an escape or reason to hump my can of tobacco. 

I still have 10 more pounds to go but I am back where I left off and I am dip free.  I also saved 1,600 dollars that I used to purchase guns.

It is better to be quit.  Trust me.    'fat'

To THIS:

Day 260

I don't intend to create any drama.  My intent is to post this so no one assumes I faded away or planned a cave. 

This is my official resignation letter from KTC.  The principles taught here are the correct principles for me to control my addiction.  Pretty simple really:

- Quit only for today
- Post Roll
- Keep your word
- Get involve by asking for support and giving support
- If tomorrow becomes today....repeat. 

That is the wisdom and simplicity of quit.  It was hell, It was a battle and now I am tasting and loving the sweetness of being free from that vice.  Yes I hate nicotine, I hate the tobacco industry in America and I never, ever will empathize or hold that industry blameless for my addiction and other peoples cancer!  They are an ugly, rotten group of slugs.  (Spare me the soda, and McDonald's comparison too.)  Compare them to a terrorist organization and tell me why you don't hold them accountable for their actions!    

I am and always will be an addict so I will continue to apply these principles.  The only way I will every post roll here is if I cave so I hope you never have to see a post of day 1 here from me. 

The grass is growing under my feet and its time to move on.  Most people don't like change.  I love change and new experiences.  It is just my time to change. 

The principles here are correct and if you follow them with exactness, you can not and will not fall victim to nicotine ever again! 

However, some of you dogs and pigs of quitting will ultimately return to your vomit or wallow in the mire yet again.  That is as much a fact as we all are human.  However, any quitter who believes and follows these principles will remain free from this vice for the rest of their life. 

Who are you and what do you believe?  The principles are taught, preached and encouraged over and over and over here.  You have your agency to post roll and repeat or to ignore and surrender to the evil in a can. 

So those brothers that are in my phone, I am not deleting or abandoning you.  My phone is open for support 24/7. 

I love KTC and thank her for being here for me when I needed a Mentor to get me through the suck.  I embraced the suck and posted roll 100%  That is how I stayed quit.  

For those that think or say that this is a planned cave.  I don't care.  This is my quit and I have owned it since day 1 I will continue to own it. 

Stay quit.

In ONE day? :huh:

1 word

tnuC

I think he is posting with ”The Quit”. basically I read ”Fuck you”.

I would say I support you in anyway if it helps your quit.. But, then I read the word "HOPE" in your post.. To me this means you haven't accepted reality yet, and you still have some dark matter. If you were ready you would've said " You will NEVER see me post a day 1 again" read your own words, They have doubt interlaced. Be careful bro.. 'finger point'

[Mjollnir]

How in the Hell do you go from THIS:

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Day 259

Today is a great day.  First and foremost, I quit today.  Second, I got on the scale.  My weight is back to my Day 1 post.  What a great feeling. 

Anyone battling today (Especially those pre - 100 days quit) Stay in the fight and win it! 

You may wonder why fight the triggers, is it possible to be quit for life?  Blah Blah Blah! 

IT IS AND IT IS GREAT!!!!

I have had so many successes that I attribute to quitting nicotine and freeing my mind from that poison.  Now it hasn't been all sunshine and puppy dogs.  I have had some tough days but the experiences without nicotine was better.  You see I delt with my issues vs. finding an escape or reason to hump my can of tobacco. 

I still have 10 more pounds to go but I am back where I left off and I am dip free.  I also saved 1,600 dollars that I used to purchase guns.

It is better to be quit.  Trust me.    'fat'

To THIS:

Day 260

I don't intend to create any drama.  My intent is to post this so no one assumes I faded away or planned a cave. 

This is my official resignation letter from KTC.  The principles taught here are the correct principles for me to control my addiction.  Pretty simple really:

- Quit only for today
- Post Roll
- Keep your word
- Get involve by asking for support and giving support
- If tomorrow becomes today....repeat. 

That is the wisdom and simplicity of quit.  It was hell, It was a battle and now I am tasting and loving the sweetness of being free from that vice.  Yes I hate nicotine, I hate the tobacco industry in America and I never, ever will empathize or hold that industry blameless for my addiction and other peoples cancer!  They are an ugly, rotten group of slugs.  (Spare me the soda, and McDonald's comparison too.)  Compare them to a terrorist organization and tell me why you don't hold them accountable for their actions!    

I am and always will be an addict so I will continue to apply these principles.  The only way I will every post roll here is if I cave so I hope you never have to see a post of day 1 here from me. 

The grass is growing under my feet and its time to move on.  Most people don't like change.  I love change and new experiences.  It is just my time to change. 

The principles here are correct and if you follow them with exactness, you can not and will not fall victim to nicotine ever again! 

However, some of you dogs and pigs of quitting will ultimately return to your vomit or wallow in the mire yet again.  That is as much a fact as we all are human.  However, any quitter who believes and follows these principles will remain free from this vice for the rest of their life. 

Who are you and what do you believe?  The principles are taught, preached and encouraged over and over and over here.  You have your agency to post roll and repeat or to ignore and surrender to the evil in a can. 

So those brothers that are in my phone, I am not deleting or abandoning you.  My phone is open for support 24/7. 

I love KTC and thank her for being here for me when I needed a Mentor to get me through the suck.  I embraced the suck and posted roll 100%  That is how I stayed quit.  

For those that think or say that this is a planned cave.  I don't care.  This is my quit and I have owned it since day 1 I will continue to own it. 

Stay quit.

In ONE day? :huh:

1 word

tnuC

I think he is posting with ”The Quit”. basically I read ”Fuck you”.

[Ready]

Pause.

Go read this thread from your very first post.

Reflect.

Stay quit.

You can do this.

[loot]

It wasn't even 24 hours. He posted something in Suggestions a mere few hours before dropping the deuce.

One more word.

Class.