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Offline THansen2413

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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2014, 05:02:00 PM »
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Quote from: Otter
My quit didnÂ’t last because I allowed my flesh to supersede my spiritual beliefs. I relied on my own will to make it happen instead of the One who can actually do the changing. Smoking or dipping for 22 years or so and then expecting to quit cold turkey takes a huge amount of guts and determination. I have seen where many on this site have been successful and many who were not. I am a serial caver and donÂ’t even know why I came back here, except that it is the only place that I have been where I was able to quit for any length of time. Some of you here will not understand my resolve lies in my faith in Jesus Christ. Someone just said that He didnÂ’t put the nic in my mouth and that is correct. I am taking full responsibility and accountability this time for my actions, but I am not relying on my own will to do this. Jesus said that He would be a comforter and a help in times of need and I am placing my trust in Him alone to overcome this addiction.

My lack of accountability to everyone on this site who has not caved or given in makes me an untrustworthy person and I understand what comes with that. My resolve to quit was not where it needed to be in the past and I am going to utilize all the tools on this site and my support network at home, including my wife and daughters, who were not a big part in the past. Despite my past failures, there is no doubt in my mind that this will be the last explanation that I will have to make on why I didnÂ’t hold up my part of the deal.
You know Otter, if it were up to me, you would be banned. You have no integrity, no honor, no self-respect and you are a whining little girl. Now you are bringing the Lord into it. God gave you everything you needed to quit. He isn't quitting for you..you do the work. If you think that He's going to magically change you, then you are dead wrong again and you have already laid the foundation for the next excuse as to why you caved.

I really don't understand how you are planning on utilizing your wife and daughters in your quit. They have absolutely nothing to do with your quit and can't do anything to help you. You had all the tools right here. You had the encouragement, the support, everything and you pissed it away, not just once, but multiple times. It's a real simple formula here, just like it is with Christianity. You give your word and you keep your word. You can't do either of those things. Go away. Go far away. You are poison to everyone here that is quit and the new quitters that are quit.

You have a mindset that you can just keep "trying." That mindset is 100% lethal. We have no room for that. You are asking everyone on here to say it's ok to cave and you'll be welcomed back. NO WAY!!!! A little leaven leavens the whole lump. That's Galatians 5:9. That's what you are. Poison to the whole group of quitters. If you actually got this, you wouldn't have come back to this site. It's completely selfish of you. You would take your shit show to some other site where they'll coddle balls with you and say things like "it's ok, you just have to keep trying." I'm not ever going to say that to you or anyone else. That isn't graceless. That is honor and truth. To say that would be to say to that addict in me, that I could go ahead an take one dip and it'll be ok because everyone might be a little mad but they'll take me back and I can try again. That mindset is death. You want to live like that, go ahead, but don't bring that in here.

In here, we are fostering life. Living life and living it with integrity, honor and respect. It starts with not being a liar. Go post somewhere else and learn integrity. Take what you've learned here and go somewhere else and help some quitters elsewhere. You won't get support from me here.

As EC says - you can fuck off. And if you don't see how that statement is helpful to you, then you really don't get it.
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Hey Otter,

I'm quoting off my brothers posts. You see, I call them brothers, because to me, they are. I fought to 100 days with them...side by side. We shared ups and downs and were there for one another. Who did you reach out to? Anybody? Obviously not. I've been watching your posts throughout the day from work. Now I get the chance to respond to you...

You are a fucking weak ass. You blame and disrespect Jesus and God for your cave? Here's where I'm coming from pal. I'm non religious.. but I'd be the first in line to support "insert religious group here" cause. You know why? Because, much like I'm judged for not being religious, I'd expect people to respect me for being a damn nice person. So to see you, hiding behind religion, it pisses me off. You remind me of a stone cold killer who finds Jesus while on death row. No bro, you can't play that card... you know why? Because you caved, or if you killed somebody...you killed somebody. You're covering your ass..... your TRYING to make people feel sorry for you. I don't feel sorry for you. You caved out of your own FREE WILL (credit to EC Dad for that line). Jesus didn't intervene and move your mouth to buy a tin. YOU DID. You come to KTC and declare rock bottom...because no half ass would join this site.... and you do this shit? Damn... your road to redemption starts now.... and it's not going to be a pleasant walk... I can promise you that. I'd offer you luck, but luck has nothing to do with it.... time to grab your nuts and own up... and QUIT for once in your life. PS, don't ever post anything again that will disrespect my June brothers and their religion.... I have no fucking time for that.
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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2014, 04:57:00 PM »
After reading all this a couple of things struck me.

1. Are people really quitting this stuff because the don't want to get cancer? Its a serious question. I have 4 kids and that justification never even crossed my mind.

2. Do kids and spouses really help you quit? I quit before and only told my father who had just quit smoking after 50 years. Honest question.

To be honest the reason I am quitting is I hate the fact that I let some dirt bag tobacco company get me addicted to a product that does NOTHING for me. The only reason I was buying it the last 5 years was to prevent withdrawal.

I finally had enough of throwing away money on a product I HATED and am wiling to go thru hell so eventually I can waive my middle finger at US Tobacco Inc. Being a slave to nicotine finally just pissed me off.

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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2014, 04:51:00 PM »
Quote from: mattyf118
Here's the thing. Everyone on this site says that quitting is hard. I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Quitting wasn't hard for me. Did I go thru withdrawals, yes. Did they suck, yes. But guess what, when I closed that door, I fucking slammed it, taped it, nailed it, welded it shut. Quit is quit, when you shut the door, there is no more opening it. There's no more one pinch, one taste, one smell. Maybe you're the type of guy who needs some hard truth. Saw you mentioned your wife in an earlier post. Why don't you go read the Tom and Jenny Kern story. See what his wife is doing now. Wise up man, keep that shit outta your lip. You wanna be that guy, not there to see his fucking kids grow up. Nobody on this site, in this world, or in this universe is going to change your mind. Jesus isn't going to help you stop dipping. He only helps those who help themselves. Burn your damn boat man before it's too late.

You're playing Russian Roulette with cancer causing bullets. I wish you luck.
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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2014, 04:47:00 PM »
Here's the thing. Everyone on this site says that quitting is hard. I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Quitting wasn't hard for me. Did I go thru withdrawals, yes. Did they suck, yes. But guess what, when I closed that door, I fucking slammed it, taped it, nailed it, welded it shut. Quit is quit, when you shut the door, there is no more opening it. There's no more one pinch, one taste, one smell. Maybe you're the type of guy who needs some hard truth. Saw you mentioned your wife in an earlier post. Why don't you go read the Tom and Jenny Kern story. See what his wife is doing now. Wise up man, keep that shit outta your lip. You wanna be that guy, not there to see his fucking kids grow up. Nobody on this site, in this world, or in this universe is going to change your mind. Jesus isn't going to help you stop dipping. He only helps those who help themselves. Burn your damn boat man before it's too late.

You're playing Russian Roulette with cancer causing bullets. I wish you luck.
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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2014, 04:27:00 PM »
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Quote from: CBird65
Quote from: Sand_Fleas_Gotta_Eat
Quote from: jimthins
Quote from: Otter
My wife was not happy at all and made it clear that my love for her and the girls was not being shown by trying to get cancer and kill myself.
Come on, Otter. That can't feel good knowing that. You can't, and I mean C-A-N-N-O-T let nicotine control your life anymore. Hearing your wife say something of that nature should be a knife in the gut. Maybe it's the reality check you need. Quit for your family, quit for KTC, but most importantly quit for YOURSELF! You know you can do it. Why put yourself through the misery of experiencing withdrawals all over again? And why put yourself through the misery of getting put on the chopping block for all KTC to see?
When you get those cravings, and decide you want to buy a can for just "one dip" remember how your wife and family felt. Remember all the support you've left behind on KTC. And don't forget.... CANCER or maybe even DEATH!
The shit is for real man. One of these days you won't have the chance to "try again."
It's time to man up Otter. Stop pussy-footin around. Get your quit on.
How long has this guy ^^^ been quit. Awesome post! Otter you would be approaching approximately 1,000 days with your original quit group. You have the ability to be a bad ass quitter. Now you have to prove it to everyone here. There are some serious bad assed quitters here posting on your intro. THAT means something. These folks care or they wouldn't be posting on your intro! Check your PM!
ready nope.... ready now, nope .... how about now? tired of being a slave yet????

Dammit you should be the comma w us!

Chad the revolving door of your attempts will come to an immediate end when you draw the line in the sand .
Not the imaginary line Obama uses - the one where I say I have had enough, I am a man of my word and I will not use nicotine for any reason. My quit is 100% my decision and is not dependent on anything or anyone.
Burn all your bridges - No retreating!

post your promise
keep your word
rinse and repeat
:sigh

Thanks Otter. Thanks for reminding me how much it must suck to be going through withdrawal again and again and again...
You know what? I'm going to stand over here behind Vigor. Right behind this LINE that we are not crossing TODAY. Right here with Bronc and EC and Flea and jimmythin. They have my back. WE have given our word.

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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2014, 03:51:00 PM »
Quote from: CBird65
Quote from: Sand_Fleas_Gotta_Eat
Quote from: jimthins
Quote from: Otter
My wife was not happy at all and made it clear that my love for her and the girls was not being shown by trying to get cancer and kill myself.
Come on, Otter. That can't feel good knowing that. You can't, and I mean C-A-N-N-O-T let nicotine control your life anymore. Hearing your wife say something of that nature should be a knife in the gut. Maybe it's the reality check you need. Quit for your family, quit for KTC, but most importantly quit for YOURSELF! You know you can do it. Why put yourself through the misery of experiencing withdrawals all over again? And why put yourself through the misery of getting put on the chopping block for all KTC to see?
When you get those cravings, and decide you want to buy a can for just "one dip" remember how your wife and family felt. Remember all the support you've left behind on KTC. And don't forget.... CANCER or maybe even DEATH!
The shit is for real man. One of these days you won't have the chance to "try again."
It's time to man up Otter. Stop pussy-footin around. Get your quit on.
How long has this guy ^^^ been quit. Awesome post! Otter you would be approaching approximately 1,000 days with your original quit group. You have the ability to be a bad ass quitter. Now you have to prove it to everyone here. There are some serious bad assed quitters here posting on your intro. THAT means something. These folks care or they wouldn't be posting on your intro! Check your PM!
ready nope.... ready now, nope .... how about now? tired of being a slave yet????

Dammit you should be the comma w us!

Chad the revolving door of your attempts will come to an immediate end when you draw the line in the sand .
Not the imaginary line Obama uses - the one where I say I have had enough, I am a man of my word and I will not use nicotine for any reason. My quit is 100% my decision and is not dependent on anything or anyone.
Burn all your bridges - No retreating!

post your promise
keep your word
rinse and repeat
:sigh

Thanks Otter. Thanks for reminding me how much it must suck to be going through withdrawal again and again and again...
You know what? I'm going to stand over here behind Vigor. Right behind this LINE that we are not crossing TODAY. Right here with Bronc and EC and Flea and jimmythin. They have my back. WE have given our word.

V 943.

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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2014, 01:57:00 PM »
Quote from: Sand_Fleas_Gotta_Eat
Quote from: jimthins
Quote from: Otter
My wife was not happy at all and made it clear that my love for her and the girls was not being shown by trying to get cancer and kill myself.
Come on, Otter. That can't feel good knowing that. You can't, and I mean C-A-N-N-O-T let nicotine control your life anymore. Hearing your wife say something of that nature should be a knife in the gut. Maybe it's the reality check you need. Quit for your family, quit for KTC, but most importantly quit for YOURSELF! You know you can do it. Why put yourself through the misery of experiencing withdrawals all over again? And why put yourself through the misery of getting put on the chopping block for all KTC to see?
When you get those cravings, and decide you want to buy a can for just "one dip" remember how your wife and family felt. Remember all the support you've left behind on KTC. And don't forget.... CANCER or maybe even DEATH!
The shit is for real man. One of these days you won't have the chance to "try again."
It's time to man up Otter. Stop pussy-footin around. Get your quit on.
How long has this guy ^^^ been quit. Awesome post! Otter you would be approaching approximately 1,000 days with your original quit group. You have the ability to be a bad ass quitter. Now you have to prove it to everyone here. There are some serious bad assed quitters here posting on your intro. THAT means something. These folks care or they wouldn't be posting on your intro! Check your PM!
ready nope.... ready now, nope .... how about now? tired of being a slave yet????

Dammit you should be the comma w us!

Chad the revolving door of your attempts will come to an immediate end when you draw the line in the sand .
Not the imaginary line Obama uses - the one where I say I have had enough, I am a man of my word and I will not use nicotine for any reason. My quit is 100% my decision and is not dependent on anything or anyone.
Burn all your bridges - No retreating!

post your promise
keep your word
rinse and repeat
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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2014, 01:46:00 PM »
Quote from: jimthins
Quote from: Otter
My wife was not happy at all and made it clear that my love for her and the girls was not being shown by trying to get cancer and kill myself.
Come on, Otter. That can't feel good knowing that. You can't, and I mean C-A-N-N-O-T let nicotine control your life anymore. Hearing your wife say something of that nature should be a knife in the gut. Maybe it's the reality check you need. Quit for your family, quit for KTC, but most importantly quit for YOURSELF! You know you can do it. Why put yourself through the misery of experiencing withdrawals all over again? And why put yourself through the misery of getting put on the chopping block for all KTC to see?
When you get those cravings, and decide you want to buy a can for just "one dip" remember how your wife and family felt. Remember all the support you've left behind on KTC. And don't forget.... CANCER or maybe even DEATH!
The shit is for real man. One of these days you won't have the chance to "try again."
It's time to man up Otter. Stop pussy-footin around. Get your quit on.
How long has this guy ^^^ been quit. Awesome post! Otter you would be approaching approximately 1,000 days with your original quit group. You have the ability to be a bad ass quitter. Now you have to prove it to everyone here. There are some serious bad assed quitters here posting on your intro. THAT means something. These folks care or they wouldn't be posting on your intro! Check your PM!

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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2014, 01:14:00 PM »
Quote from: Otter
My wife was not happy at all and made it clear that my love for her and the girls was not being shown by trying to get cancer and kill myself.
Come on, Otter. That can't feel good knowing that. You can't, and I mean C-A-N-N-O-T let nicotine control your life anymore. Hearing your wife say something of that nature should be a knife in the gut. Maybe it's the reality check you need. Quit for your family, quit for KTC, but most importantly quit for YOURSELF! You know you can do it. Why put yourself through the misery of experiencing withdrawals all over again? And why put yourself through the misery of getting put on the chopping block for all KTC to see?
When you get those cravings, and decide you want to buy a can for just "one dip" remember how your wife and family felt. Remember all the support you've left behind on KTC. And don't forget.... CANCER or maybe even DEATH!
The shit is for real man. One of these days you won't have the chance to "try again."
It's time to man up Otter. Stop pussy-footin around. Get your quit on.

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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2014, 12:58:00 PM »
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Quote from: Otter
My quit didnÂ’t last because I allowed my flesh to supersede my spiritual beliefs. I relied on my own will to make it happen instead of the One who can actually do the changing. Smoking or dipping for 22 years or so and then expecting to quit cold turkey takes a huge amount of guts and determination. I have seen where many on this site have been successful and many who were not. I am a serial caver and donÂ’t even know why I came back here, except that it is the only place that I have been where I was able to quit for any length of time. Some of you here will not understand my resolve lies in my faith in Jesus Christ. Someone just said that He didnÂ’t put the nic in my mouth and that is correct. I am taking full responsibility and accountability this time for my actions, but I am not relying on my own will to do this. Jesus said that He would be a comforter and a help in times of need and I am placing my trust in Him alone to overcome this addiction.

My lack of accountability to everyone on this site who has not caved or given in makes me an untrustworthy person and I understand what comes with that. My resolve to quit was not where it needed to be in the past and I am going to utilize all the tools on this site and my support network at home, including my wife and daughters, who were not a big part in the past. Despite my past failures, there is no doubt in my mind that this will be the last explanation that I will have to make on why I didnÂ’t hold up my part of the deal.
You know Otter, if it were up to me, you would be banned. You have no integrity, no honor, no self-respect and you are a whining little girl. Now you are bringing the Lord into it. God gave you everything you needed to quit. He isn't quitting for you..you do the work. If you think that He's going to magically change you, then you are dead wrong again and you have already laid the foundation for the next excuse as to why you caved.

I really don't understand how you are planning on utilizing your wife and daughters in your quit. They have absolutely nothing to do with your quit and can't do anything to help you. You had all the tools right here. You had the encouragement, the support, everything and you pissed it away, not just once, but multiple times. It's a real simple formula here, just like it is with Christianity. You give your word and you keep your word. You can't do either of those things. Go away. Go far away. You are poison to everyone here that is quit and the new quitters that are quit.

You have a mindset that you can just keep "trying." That mindset is 100% lethal. We have no room for that. You are asking everyone on here to say it's ok to cave and you'll be welcomed back. NO WAY!!!! A little leaven leavens the whole lump. That's Galatians 5:9. That's what you are. Poison to the whole group of quitters. If you actually got this, you wouldn't have come back to this site. It's completely selfish of you. You would take your shit show to some other site where they'll coddle balls with you and say things like "it's ok, you just have to keep trying." I'm not ever going to say that to you or anyone else. That isn't graceless. That is honor and truth. To say that would be to say to that addict in me, that I could go ahead an take one dip and it'll be ok because everyone might be a little mad but they'll take me back and I can try again. That mindset is death. You want to live like that, go ahead, but don't bring that in here.

In here, we are fostering life. Living life and living it with integrity, honor and respect. It starts with not being a liar. Go post somewhere else and learn integrity. Take what you've learned here and go somewhere else and help some quitters elsewhere. You won't get support from me here.

As EC says - you can fuck off. And if you don't see how that statement is helpful to you, then you really don't get it.
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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2014, 12:56:00 PM »
My wife was not happy at all and made it clear that my love for her and the girls was not being shown by trying to get cancer and kill myself.

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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2014, 12:49:00 PM »
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Quote from: Otter
Quote from: jimthins
**KNOCK KNOCK OTTER**

I hope you realize November is going to want an explanation too. So when you're done, please bring yourself to November HOF and make your feeble attempt at accountability known. Throw yourself to the wolves and see if you can survive.

Reading through your previous posts, it makes me sick to see all the people who supported you and gave you encouragement meant nothing to you. Not to mention the false hope all those fine gentlemen were possessed with thinking they made somebody's quit stronger. Fucking pathetic. We're here to help you, but when you shit on us it's very difficult to find any words of encouragement to express.

Pull up your panties and start talking
I agree with you here. I can't believe how stupid and insensitive I was. There were some really awesome men who tried their best and I crapped on that. Not going to let that happen again.
Otter. I want to know how your wife and kids took it when you told them that you had lied yet again and slipped back into addiction. I want to know because I made the same promise to my wife and children. I want to know so I can add it to the long list of reasons I stay close to this site.
ECD - Here's Nate's Intro....he summarized it super well when he had to 'fess up to his wife and kids that he was a puss yet again. And check out the post from Chewie on this thread.

topic/1011340/1/?x=90#new

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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2014, 12:26:00 PM »
Quote from: Otter
Quote from: jimthins
**KNOCK KNOCK OTTER**

I hope you realize November is going to want an explanation too. So when you're done, please bring yourself to November HOF and make your feeble attempt at accountability known. Throw yourself to the wolves and see if you can survive.

Reading through your previous posts, it makes me sick to see all the people who supported you and gave you encouragement meant nothing to you. Not to mention the false hope all those fine gentlemen were possessed with thinking they made somebody's quit stronger. Fucking pathetic. We're here to help you, but when you shit on us it's very difficult to find any words of encouragement to express.

Pull up your panties and start talking
I agree with you here. I can't believe how stupid and insensitive I was. There were some really awesome men who tried their best and I crapped on that. Not going to let that happen again.
Otter. I want to know how your wife and kids took it when you told them that you had lied yet again and slipped back into addiction. I want to know because I made the same promise to my wife and children. I want to know so I can add it to the long list of reasons I stay close to this site.

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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2014, 12:24:00 PM »
Quote from: Otter
My quit didnÂ’t last because I allowed my flesh to supersede my spiritual beliefs. I relied on my own will to make it happen instead of the One who can actually do the changing. Smoking or dipping for 22 years or so and then expecting to quit cold turkey takes a huge amount of guts and determination. I have seen where many on this site have been successful and many who were not. I am a serial caver and donÂ’t even know why I came back here, except that it is the only place that I have been where I was able to quit for any length of time. Some of you here will not understand my resolve lies in my faith in Jesus Christ. Someone just said that He didnÂ’t put the nic in my mouth and that is correct. I am taking full responsibility and accountability this time for my actions, but I am not relying on my own will to do this. Jesus said that He would be a comforter and a help in times of need and I am placing my trust in Him alone to overcome this addiction.

My lack of accountability to everyone on this site who has not caved or given in makes me an untrustworthy person and I understand what comes with that. My resolve to quit was not where it needed to be in the past and I am going to utilize all the tools on this site and my support network at home, including my wife and daughters, who were not a big part in the past. Despite my past failures, there is no doubt in my mind that this will be the last explanation that I will have to make on why I didnÂ’t hold up my part of the deal.
You know Otter, if it were up to me, you would be banned. You have no integrity, no honor, no self-respect and you are a whining little girl. Now you are bringing the Lord into it. God gave you everything you needed to quit. He isn't quitting for you..you do the work. If you think that He's going to magically change you, then you are dead wrong again and you have already laid the foundation for the next excuse as to why you caved.

I really don't understand how you are planning on utilizing your wife and daughters in your quit. They have absolutely nothing to do with your quit and can't do anything to help you. You had all the tools right here. You had the encouragement, the support, everything and you pissed it away, not just once, but multiple times. It's a real simple formula here, just like it is with Christianity. You give your word and you keep your word. You can't do either of those things. Go away. Go far away. You are poison to everyone here that is quit and the new quitters that are quit.

You have a mindset that you can just keep "trying." That mindset is 100% lethal. We have no room for that. You are asking everyone on here to say it's ok to cave and you'll be welcomed back. NO WAY!!!! A little leaven leavens the whole lump. That's Galatians 5:9. That's what you are. Poison to the whole group of quitters. If you actually got this, you wouldn't have come back to this site. It's completely selfish of you. You would take your shit show to some other site where they'll coddle balls with you and say things like "it's ok, you just have to keep trying." I'm not ever going to say that to you or anyone else. That isn't graceless. That is honor and truth. To say that would be to say to that addict in me, that I could go ahead an take one dip and it'll be ok because everyone might be a little mad but they'll take me back and I can try again. That mindset is death. You want to live like that, go ahead, but don't bring that in here.

In here, we are fostering life. Living life and living it with integrity, honor and respect. It starts with not being a liar. Go post somewhere else and learn integrity. Take what you've learned here and go somewhere else and help some quitters elsewhere. You won't get support from me here.

As EC says - you can fuck off. And if you don't see how that statement is helpful to you, then you really don't get it.

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Re: Slave no more..
« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2014, 11:42:00 AM »
Quote from: Otter
I had it that first time around and let it all go for poisonous dirt. Unbelievably stupid man, I am.
Remember this. There are enough resources here to keep that poisonous dirt out of your body.

Don't let there be a next time.