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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2010, 04:37:00 PM »
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Monday, May 10, 2010 12:10 AM CDT

I'm sliding backwards. I have been angry since Christmas because life is either at a standstill or going backwards. During the last 5 years I felt I was gradually doing better. I would have dips of depression and sadness, but then I would come back. However, the last 6 months have had fewer days of happiness than sadness. I'm angry that I'm not on that gradual incline towards happiness. I want to enjoy life, but there is a cloud hanging over me at all times. For the first time, I am actually contemplating an anti-depressant. I recently told a friend that I still cry every day - sometimes a lot, sometimes a little. She said, "Still, after all this time?" It won't ever go away, but I thought it would continually get better.

I'm sure part of it has to do with Alexa graduating. Her hockey team made it to state for the second year in a row. In the past two years, the best games I have seen the team play have been the section championship games at Gustavus (where Tom and I went to college). Tom's work-study job was at the hockey rink. Last year, they beat Mankato West (Tom's high school) to go to state. I told Alexa that Dad had to be there because Hutch was playing Mankato West at Gustavus - how could he NOT be there!

Alexa has her last choir concert in a couple of weeks. I know I will cry. They sing a goodbye song for the seniors as we watch a slide show of their baby pictures and senior pictures.

We are planning to have Tom's high school and college friends come at the end of her graduation party to tell stories about him for the kids. We all love to here stories about him. It's hard to celebrate when he isn't here to celebrate with us. I know graduation day will be hard - watching her, knowing that she is missing him.

We recently had to junk Tom's Ranger. It was too old and needed too many repairs. Mackenzie and I had the hardest time parting with it. She drove it right after Tom died until she had Kenra. It was letting go of one more piece of him.

Connor recently hit a homerun, and I know he wished Tom were there to congratulate him. Tom would have loved to see him all dressed up for the homecoming dance. He would enjoy teasing Connor's about his girlfriend! Tom would be proud of his grades and the quality of his character.

Tori really needs her dad to give her a big hug. She is such a good girl, but anytime she makes a mistake she thinks she is letting him down. He needs to tell her that he loves her no matter what. She beats herself up sometimes. It isn't enough for me to tell her Tom loves her no matter what.

I'm so proud of the people our children are growing up to be. I'm happy they have so much of Tom's character in them. I wish he were here to share in my joys as I watch them grow and mature.

Thanks for your continued support. I need the words of encouragement.

Jenny
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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2010, 04:36:00 PM »
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....the old I was a better less irritable person and life was better when I chewed rationalization.

Or I love my wife , girlfriend, midgit tranny go fish partner too much to put them through this, I have to start dipping again.

It's not worth it??? , I wonder how your support person is going to feel holding your hand while you have chemo. I wonder if you'll think it was worth it then.

Withdrawl is temporary, get over yourself and relax brah, I can look you in the eye and tell you it's worth it a million times over. The Only thing that shit is good for is keeping you addicted to it. The flip side is that everything is better without it.

That shit literally hijacked your mind, and your bodies ability to feel good without it.
No joke on this, you have to have a dip to get an endorphin release just to feel normal. Of course normal was what you would feel like if you never started. This shit better be pissing you off. You were getting date raped by UST while they stole your money, self respect, control, and even thoughts. Yeah thoughts, ever get in your car at some odd hour of the night when you'd rather be on the couch, because your out of dip? Ever lie to someone about chewing?

You finally escape, and now you miss the feel of that long cancerous shaft sticking to you one more time?

Little mind games your having are ALL addiction rationalizations. How many reasons a day have you come up with on why you should dip. For me it was the reward chew ( cause I quit) . The just when I'm ___________ insert stupid shit here. The only on weekend chew, the just with the boys dip, the just one, the can to help me concentrate, the my ______ died I feel sorry for myself chew, the I'm going to die of something anyway chew. The I'm too much of a dick without it chew.

One day at a time, you got this shit, get tough. I promise it is worth it


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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2010, 04:34:00 PM »
Posted by Skoal Master

Once upon a highschool I knew a tank sized fattapotamus named "Hope" . She was a useless chewed bubblegum looking ginormous wad of girth that wore Salmon colored shorts which showed her questionably colored panties as she contorted and wobbled her elephant sized particulars up the rope in the gym. Like watching a steroidal jellyfish trying to screw a giant licorice whip.

I Hope I can quit, I hope this works, I hope, I hope , I hope.......... your a moron. I hope your paying attention.

Like the high school Hope O Saurus , hoping to quit is useless and won't get it done. When you say you "hope you can quit", you transfer the responsibility of quitting to some unicorn riding quit fairy and away from yourself. You might as well wish on a star that you'll be quit in the morning. "I wish I could quit? " of all the defeatest idiotic garbage " hope to quit" and "wish I could" are two tell tale signs of impending failure. Where is the responsibility for your own self control?
Nothing keeps you from quitting but you, and the lies you tell. Hope isn't for quitters


ITS A DECISION. You decided to quit? then quit Dammit. Choices have consequences and rewards. To quit means to face withdrawl, it requires the confrontation of triggers without using nicotine. It will not always be easy,but get over it. This is the price you pay to earn your freedom.Besides, what have you ever earned of value that was easy? ( Besides Bubba's undying love) . it won't always be hard either, so look forward to that. You learn to live life without a chemical addiction.The reward is bigger than High School Hope's ever expanding ass. Better relationships, your self respect, freedom, control, health, perhaps your very life. Maybe the next dip is the one that kills you?

You can't hope your way to freedom from nicotine, but you can choose it.

You can hope you win the lottery, you can hope the train is on time, you can hope the waitress doesn't stick her thumb in your soup. You can even hope that you don't accidentally drop the soap in the jail shower and become Bubba the steroidal rapists new love interest. But you can't hope to quit. You have failed before you start with that thinking. You CAN quit or not quit, but there is no hope.

Try is Hope's buck toothed half retarded sexually ambigous twin sister. You can try a new flavor of edible underoos, you can try to run a marathon, you can even "try" to wiggle free from your prison paramour Bubba when he tells you to hold still "just for a second, just to see how it feels."

Try implies an attempt, and an attempt provides an opportunity for failure. Yoda once told me " Do or do not, there is no try" You have no option for failure. This is your life. Try is for games of chance, athletes and aspiring porn stars about to take 12 inches in the can. Try is not for quitters, try is for failures, because in this game you either win or die.

Truckerick posted something along the following lines which
speaks to the difference between try and do.The difference between success and fail.

"Once the warriors had been off loaded from their boats onto their enemy's shore, the Greek commanders would shout out their first orderÂ…"burn the boats!" The sight of burning boats removed any notion of retreat from their hearts and any thoughts of surrender from their boats being set to the torch. As the boats turned to ash and slipped quietly out of sight into the water, each man understood there was no turning back and the only way home was through victory."

Burn your boat and quit with resolve , no acceptable possibility but success.

Quit or don't. If you quit, it is unconditional. There is no just one, there is no reward chew, no I'm sad chew, no it's too hard, you quit and agree to ride the wave. It's like Bubba said , "there is really no half way, its either in or its out cupcake" Your either fully quit and take personal responsibility for your actions, or you don't and you ultimately relapse. But it's easier to blame UST then to blame ourselves. Its easier to lie that it can't be done, I'll quit tomorrow, I'm too addicted, its not the right time, I hope I can, I wish I can, I'm going to try. Screw hope ( not high school Hope you sicko, wtf is wrong with you?) I meant hoping to quit, and screw try as well, DO IT. It is easier than you think. Is it going to hurt a bit? probably, but pain is temporary and quit is forever as they say. Chicks dig scars, no guts no glory etc etc. Gather up your courage and get quit or stay quit, but for your own good don't hope and don't try.

The choice, ......and it is a choice, is yours. The responsibility of achieving success is yours as well, no one can cause your failure but you. No one, not even Bubba is going to sneak up behind you and jam a peach skoal suppository in your mouth.
That failure is by your hand alone.

P.S.
IF Bubba gets behind you Peach skoal is the least of your worries.

Stay quit suckers

sm

This post has been edited by Skoal Monster on Jul 2, 2010, 12:01 am
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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2010, 04:30:00 PM »
Dear Daddy-

I wish you could have been there today to see me in my Ballet Recital, I felt like a princess. But your addiction was too strong for you to deny.

I wish you were here to hold me and tell me there was no “Boogie man” under my bed. But you put your addiction first.

I wish you were here to teach me to drive a car. But tobacco would not let you.

I wish you could have seen my high school graduation today, I sure missed you. But you chose to continue to use tobacco over your family.

I wish you could have been here tonight and met my prom date, I think I am in love. But your resolve to quit dip was not strong enough.

I wish you were here to help me move into my dorm room at college, I think I will like it here. But you chose to continue to use tobacco.

I wish you could have been around to give me words of encouragement on my wedding day and walk me down the aisle, it would have meant the world to me. But you were not strong enough to put down snuff once and for all.

I wish you were here today to hold your first grandchild, you know he has your eyes. But tobacco was too important to you.

I wish you had never used tobacco daddy, my life would have been much happier.

I love you and miss you,

Your daughter


I am quit today and tomorrow....MOA
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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2010, 04:29:00 PM »
Posted by Skoal Monster 08/07/09

Cavers,

In ancient times a builder could form a stone arch with no mortar by slowly rounding the stones in at the top. Its success was dependent upon a single stone set at the 12:00 posistion, called the keystone YOU are that keystone. When you selfishly choose to cave you rip the keystone from the arch and cause it to collapse.We are part of the arch. Your failure harms those that support you.
I want to scream at you for giving up and shaking the foundation of the solid quits around you. You are a virus that infects the minds of your brother and sister quitters. If you can casually fail and restart, why can't I ???? The addicts voice leaks into my head because you opened a crack in the door. I want to rage against you for chipping away at the strength in the quits around you. I hope you come back and fight again to free yourself from the chains of this addiction, but I cannot forget your weakness. I will struggle to support you further because you have torn apart the bond of accountability and endangered us all.

For those that read this and are quit,

I implore you to not just rage against the cavers in our midst, but to strengthen your own quits. EVERY DAY you must increase your own accountibility. Some of us create accountibility by dishing out massive attacks on the weaknesses of others. How could I possibly cave when I have referred to so many failures as weaklings and cowards and worse, I would be crucified. Those that I have cut with merciless truth and anger wait for me should I fail. My E-mail and Phone number are for all including those who would take pleasure in returning to me some tough love. Everyone must know I quit and everyone must be in a posistion to tell me how my failure affects them. I cannot fail because I have woven a web of accountibility around myself. I provide support each day as best I can, often with a PM or text other times in the forum or chat. I know there are quitters who I am a keystone for. I cannont fail because I would harm their quits. I carry but a few numbers in my phone but have offered and given mine out always . This makes me accountable to support those people. If I caved and they have my number and call me for support, how could I possibly help them? I cannot cave because I care about these strangers, and I refuse to endanger their freedom from nicotine thru my own weakness.
The accountibilty needs to be nurtured off the site as well. Your family, friends, must all know the depth of your fight. I have shown ODT's cancer surgery to my kids, I have told them how hard it was for me to stop, I have told everyone I lied to or hid my addiction from that I was a sniveling lying chew sucking nic fiend. I have let loose the truth upon everyone in my life. I am now accountible to them as well. I cannot cave because I refuse to look into my wife's, childrens, eyes and tell them that I choose cancer over them. .

Strengthen your quit, weave your web of accountibility, be an unbreakable keystone, support in your own way, rage or hand hold, just stay quit. Your fighting for your very life, this is real and not a game.
"All I have in this world is my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one". - Scarface

"I do not promise ease. I do not promise comfort. But I do promise you these: hardship, weariness, and suffering. And with them, I promise you VICTORY." - Garibaldi

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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2010, 04:25:00 PM »
Links to remind us why we're quit:

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/jennykern.asp

http://www.caringbridge.org/mn/tomkern/

This could just as easily be my daughter.

 Happy Father's Day Dad!!! I love you!
- Sunday, June 20, 2010 9:31 PM CDT

 Happy Birthday DAD!!! Can you believe that Alexa graduated yesterday?! Love you and miss you.
- Monday, June 7, 2010 7:36 AM CDT

 Hey Dad! Just wanted to drop in and say hi. There is not a day that goes by when I don't miss you. I wish more than anything I could just have one last bear hug from you (yours were ALWAYS the best)! I would do anything just to have another day with you. I know you are in a better place, but it hurt so much not having you here with me. I love you dad!
- Friday, April 9, 2010 1:17 PM CDT

 Hey Dad- Merry Christmas!!! I know this is your favorite time of year and we are all missing you so much over the holidays. Ryan, Kenra, and I went out and got a real tree agian this year...It makes me think of you every time I look at it! I miss you and love you so much wishing you could be here every day with us!!!
Merry Christmas Daddy!!!
- Friday, December 25, 2009 8:24 PM CST

 Happy Father's Day dad!! I love you and miss you so much. You would have been so proud of Connor today he pitched a good game, and Tori has a good tournament yesterday too, but I know you were there in spirit! I LOVE YOU AND MISS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:29 PM CDT

Read this every time your craving. Sign it and hand it to your family if you decide that quitting is too hard.
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp
"All I have in this world is my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one". - Scarface

"I do not promise ease. I do not promise comfort. But I do promise you these: hardship, weariness, and suffering. And with them, I promise you VICTORY." - Garibaldi

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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2010, 04:07:00 PM »
So, here I am on Day 16. It has been the best decision IÂ’ve ever made. IÂ’m only at this point in large part to this site and the members both newbies and vets. IÂ’ve bought into posting roll and what it signifies and it has gotten me through some rough times that in the past would have seen my quit some to an end.

The other night, me and the wife (been married for almost 6 years) got into a rather large dust up over the most stupid shit ever. Anyway, she said some totally uncalled for shit. Shit in the past that would have had me in my truck going to “buy a soda” – what I told her I was doing while going to either buy a tin or have a chew or both. This lie is another part of the 7-year cover-up. Instead, I told her where she could go and how to get there and retreated to my man cave, throw in a huge chew of fake stuff and read the site. I was proud of myself for not giving in like I have some many times before. I’m doing this for me so that I don’t miss out on the finer parts of life with my family. No matter what she says when she’s pissed, she is still the 2nd best thing that has happened to me behind my daughter and all she has to do is give me that little girls smile for me to forget why I was so pissed at her in the first place.

Thank you KTC and all my quit brothers and sisters for helping me get this far. One day at a time, together, weÂ’ll get to where we want to be.
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"I do not promise ease. I do not promise comfort. But I do promise you these: hardship, weariness, and suffering. And with them, I promise you VICTORY." - Garibaldi

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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2010, 04:06:00 PM »
Getting your head wrapped around the fact that you are an addict is a big hurdle.

Congrats, you are off to one hell of a good start.

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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2010, 03:55:00 PM »
My name is Chuck and I am a nicotine gutter junkie. Surprisingly it took me over 15 years to be able to admit that. The inability to come to terms with this simply fact has been the root cause of failure for previous quits - that and me being too weak to not give in.

I started using in high school. A couple of my hockey teammates always dipped so I tried it, but only a handful of times since each time I did I thought I was going to throw up. Looking back that should have been a huge warning sign to run the other way, but my dumb ass didn't. Then I went to college and with more free time and freedom I began using more but nothing that I would call regular. I don't remember buying tins very often. I usually just bummed it off friends when we were drinking. My family hit some tough time economically and I had to leave school to go to work. After about a year or so I began attending a school near my house. It was during this time that I think (kind of foggy all these years later) I began regular usage and my addiction. And although IÂ’ve stopped chewing a couple of times for a couple weeks or even a month I was never successful in quitting.

While I was dating my wife I hid it from her. Well, she caught me one night and said it was either her or the chew. So I stopped for a couple days and then went back to it just being more careful not to get caught. I’ve been hiding it from her for something over 7 years. Not sure how I was able to do it for that long without getting caught, but I’ve been lying to the woman I love for most of the time we’ve been together. We have a 2 and ½ y/o daughter who is one of the best kids I’ve ever met (yeah I know I’m her dad, but I’d be saying this even if she wasn’t). And still I couldn’t commit to quit. The last couple of months my cheeks and gums were getting sore more often and staying sore for longer.

Then on Sunday night June 27 2010 as I laid in bed feeling the inside of my sore cheeks with my tongue I decided that the dip I just finished would be my last. I prayed to God to do what he could to see that I quit in time to not get the Big C. We’re all gonna die. I finally made the choice to not have my weakness play a role in my demise any longer. I just hope that I quit in time, but that remains to be seen. I quit for me because I didn’t want my little girl to know what life was like without her daddy. I didn’t want her to have to go through the pain of understanding what death meant. I didn’t want my wife to have to struggle with the question “Mommy, where’s daddy and when’s he coming back.” I quit for me so that I can witness each of her milestones in living color. I didn’t want to burden my wife with being a single parent. I decided to finally be a real man and take control of my life back.
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"I do not promise ease. I do not promise comfort. But I do promise you these: hardship, weariness, and suffering. And with them, I promise you VICTORY." - Garibaldi

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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2010, 03:53:00 PM »
So lets get with the introduction here already.

How bout some stats?

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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2010, 03:18:00 PM »
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Fuck like a caveman.
CC, definitely fuck like a caveman. I concur 100%
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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2010, 03:13:00 PM »
Wait a minute; you have 57 posts? Where are they?

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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2010, 03:08:00 PM »
Fuck like a caveman.

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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2010, 03:08:00 PM »
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As the description states, I am starting this thread to introduce myself to whomever wants to know more and to serve as my page so that I can store some shit I want to keep handy.  If you don't like what you read here or find it boring then you can just leave without comment.  Remember, I didn’t do this for your entertainment value nor did I ask you to click on my page.  Just go back to where you came from and let’s keep it movin’.  With that said, if you have some constructive comments or advice or motivational quotes or links to share then, by all means, please do so.
here's a comment. don't be a dick.
Yup, exactly the type of shit I can do without on this page. Wasn't being a dick. Just asking...nevermind. Thanks for stopping by.
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Re: My Name is Chuck and I'm a Gutter Junkie
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2010, 03:00:00 PM »
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As the description states, I am starting this thread to introduce myself to whomever wants to know more and to serve as my page so that I can store some shit I want to keep handy. If you don't like what you read here or find it boring then you can just leave without comment. Remember, I didnÂ’t do this for your entertainment value nor did I ask you to click on my page. Just go back to where you came from and letÂ’s keep it movinÂ’. With that said, if you have some constructive comments or advice or motivational quotes or links to share then, by all means, please do so.
here's a comment. don't be a dick.
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