Quitting dip, finally!

[HauntedSchizo19]

Ok your intro is right up my alley. I'm going to disagree with some of your thoughts and also what Padd said. Nicotine may be considered a drug by some but the first use of nicotine other than than smoking chewing or snorting was an insecticide ( a poison!!). My experience with nicotine over 40 plus years I describe in my HOF speech The missing warning label . I also subscribed to the idea that nicotine calmed and relaxed me, but now that I've been nicotine free for 689 days I refute that idea vigorously!
I want to tackle another part of your intro;

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

Bull shit, if you have a problem deal with it. I was you for over 30 years, there was nothing I couldn't deal with on my own. Well one day about 15 years ago I realized I had failed dealing with it on my own. I found myself in the fetal position holding a handgun ready to end my worthless life because I couldn't deal with my thoughts and actions. Instead of ending it I swallowed my pride and crawled to a doctor and admitted I was weak. I'm in no way ashamed today to admit I take several prescription drugs and natural supplements to regulate my serotonin levels. Would you tell a diabetic to deal with their disease alone? Would you tell my wife to forget drugs to keep her MS under control and live with it if she ends up crippled or blind?
I see you didn't post roll does that mean you plan on quitting nicotine on your own? That won't work either, I can promise you that. Your young, and your odds aren't the greatest of quitting this nicotine use. That being said if you face the fact that you are addicted and take all the help and advise available you might win. Well I know I'm the old bastard (have kids older than you) but my experiences are yours if you don't tackle this now.

After posting roll check out the anxiety and depression forum in the wildcard section, you will find added support.

Thank you! Let's see.....I am trying to figure out how to use this forum, so bare with me while I try to do all of the steps (ie. post roll) to receive help and guidance. Thanks for the push in the right direction. That's what I'm afraid of, is becoming too dependent on nicotine, to the point where I can never quit. It's already hard now. As for the medication part: I am referring to psychiatric type drugs. I do not look down on people for taking them, it's just a personal preference not to take them. I guess my thoughts are a bit flawed and weak on the manner, but it's my opinion.

[HauntedSchizo19]

Schitzo, Welcome buddy! Your story's no different then a thousand others around here except you've made your decision sooner then most. Great choice btw but success depends on you going all in. Check out the welcome center, find your group and post your promise to quit every day. If you take these simple steps and keep your word, it's impossible to fail. You've manned up, stepped up, now follow through. Roam says sleeper cabs aren't as much fun when the trannys no good or your jaw falls off. Keep that in mind and get yourself on roll.

Thanks, man! I will be looking more into how to post and do all of that a bit later. I'm just trying to respond to people, because I don't have the damn patience to look on how to do this stuff right now. I think you basically just told me how to do it. Maybe I'll look now. Thanks!

[slug.go]

Welcome to KTC.  It will be tough to quit but will be worth it.  Go into it knowing that you will succeed - one day at a time.
You do not want to delay your QUIT or next thing you know you'll be much older looking back at the many years you wasted opportunities to QUIT.
I agree with Paddington that Posting and coming to KTC can be painful because it reminds us that we had been putting this crap in our mouths for a while but I've realized that is necessary for me to stay accountable and on track.
I can definately relate to the anxiety and depression issues - I also can feel trapped within negative thoughts with an inability to think clearly.  Aches in my head, back, neck, back of knees caused by stress.  It definately sucks but you definately need to eliminate the tobacco.
Read my intro for some of my story.
You will post in May 2014 if you decide to make the commitment to our team. Welcome!

Thanks for the welcome! I wish to join the team, I'm just trying to figure out how to do such. Right now, I don't have a whole lot of patience, as I'm edgy as shit. Once the crave diminishes, I'll do my best to figure out how to properly use this site. I have a good feeling that nicotine has been the leading cause to my many problems over the past few years. By the end of the day, I hope to have figured out how to "post roll."

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How to post roll. You're in May 2014.

[HauntedSchizo19]

Welcome to KTC. It will be tough to quit but will be worth it. Go into it knowing that you will succeed - one day at a time.
You do not want to delay your QUIT or next thing you know you'll be much older looking back at the many years you wasted opportunities to QUIT.
I agree with Paddington that Posting and coming to KTC can be painful because it reminds us that we had been putting this crap in our mouths for a while but I've realized that is necessary for me to stay accountable and on track.
I can definately relate to the anxiety and depression issues - I also can feel trapped within negative thoughts with an inability to think clearly. Aches in my head, back, neck, back of knees caused by stress. It definately sucks but you definately need to eliminate the tobacco.
Read my intro for some of my story.
You will post in May 2014 if you decide to make the commitment to our team. Welcome!

Thanks for the welcome! I wish to join the team, I'm just trying to figure out how to do such. Right now, I don't have a whole lot of patience, as I'm edgy as shit. Once the crave diminishes, I'll do my best to figure out how to properly use this site. I have a good feeling that nicotine has been the leading cause to my many problems over the past few years. By the end of the day, I hope to have figured out how to "post roll."

[HauntedSchizo19]

There is a lot to talk about in your intro. I want to cover three subjects.

1.) Firstly nicotine the "drug" itself and not tobacco the plant, is in many ways an anti-depressant. It works in a similar fashion as some pharmaceuticals. Zyban or Wellbutrin the medication they prescribe in order to stop anxiety/cravings/depression during someones quit is actually prescribed to people with depression, anxiety, and even ADD/ADHD who are not tobacco users. With nicotine withdrawals it somewhat continues the same action of blocking the re-uptake of dopamine, along with other actions. If you know you have a diagnosed illness and you used tobacco to medicate then perhaps quitting is the first step, and getting help even if it is not medication is the next. You yourself admitted you used nicotine to treat a problem, so help yourself and get a real tool to solve the greater issue.

2.) Quitting is going to suck. I read on here that- "Its going to get worse before it gets better". That hits the nail right on the head. You better know what your in for and be ready. Don't waste your time or anyone else'.

3.) You are not alone, but you have to be accountable. If you come here and expect something you have to put something in. I am on day 42 this morning. Last week was like week one, this week has been a breeze. I feel as if tobacco and me had never met. Coming on KTC to post roll actually has made me mad because it brings up the fact that I was putting that shit in my mouth. That might be how I feel now but posting roll and checking in is an insurance policy. While I might be cruising right now, next week might be the "worst" week of my life and I might need the help. When it is the worst week of your life sometimes just reading what others have written, facts on the main page, or branching out and reading any material related to what is going on in your head and body can really help.

Read everything that is sticky noted. Read through a few introductions, read and watch the video on how to post roll. Then do it. Don't wait. Commit and go forward. This is going to be hard but trust me it is going to be worth it.

I am no expert quitter or veteran. In the bigger picture I am more closely related to where you are at when compared to some of the guys on here who are at a year or greater. Having said that in just 41 days I have made such a drastic change. From waking up in the morning only to reach over for my can before I even open my eyes to waking up and not even thinking about it. I don't need to go into details about how awesome that is. You and everyone else knows how shitty it feels when you realize your every moment is dictated by a can and how awesome it would be to break that. Well I did this morning and I will do it tomorrow morning and so can you.

Welcome.

Thanks, man. I think I have a wee bit of an idea about what you're touching on. I quit several years ago for like 3 months; low and behold, I was back at it. I'm trying to figure out how to "post roll." Right now, I don't have the patience to sit around and look for something that I can't find with ease. I'm a bit on edge! I'm not trying to waste anyone's time, let alone mine. I don't wanna feel this way, if I wasn't trying to do it for myself. Hopefully things keep going semi-smoothly, it's the night's that are gunna kill me the most..

[ihatecope]

Welcome to the site. As you can see there are a lot of people who have their hand out wanting to help you (That would be all the names here on your page and all the names in your quit group.) What you need to do is take their hand and blanket yourself in all that KTC has to offer. Something you should know is that we are all addicted to nicotine and used it for our own fucked up justified reasons. I look back and laugh my ass off at some of the things I believed nicotine did for me. In college, I believed that a dip would actually help me focus studying and be calming for tests. LOL, if anything that bitchÂ’s cravings were a huge distraction especially during tests. Nicotine will never and can never be a positive in your life. ThatÂ’s why I know that nicotine cannot help you with anxiety, panic, or depression. It is heavily stated here on KTC, nicotine + problem = 2 problems. This is fact.

Just a thought - you said you have been chewing for 7 years and that you have been battling anxiety, panic, and depression for only 3 to 4 years. Have you considered that nicotine is causing the anxiety, panic, and depression or at least magnifying them? I only suggest that because those are the exact symptoms of nicotine craving and nicotine withdrawal. Well done on being quit! I’m quit with you. You are about to experience “the suck.” That will be 24/7 anxiety, panic, and depression for the next couple of weeks. You can do this. PM (private message) me anytime.

[LSUTiger]

Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head! 'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is: 'Finger'

Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....

[Wt57]

Ok your intro is right up my alley. I'm going to disagree with some of your thoughts and also what Padd said. Nicotine may be considered a drug by some but the first use of nicotine other than than smoking chewing or snorting was an insecticide ( a poison!!). My experience with nicotine over 40 plus years I describe in my HOF speech The missing warning label . I also subscribed to the idea that nicotine calmed and relaxed me, but now that I've been nicotine free for 689 days I refute that idea vigorously!
I want to tackle another part of your intro;

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

Bull shit, if you have a problem deal with it. I was you for over 30 years, there was nothing I couldn't deal with on my own. Well one day about 15 years ago I realized I had failed dealing with it on my own. I found myself in the fetal position holding a handgun ready to end my worthless life because I couldn't deal with my thoughts and actions. Instead of ending it I swallowed my pride and crawled to a doctor and admitted I was weak. I'm in no way ashamed today to admit I take several prescription drugs and natural supplements to regulate my serotonin levels. Would you tell a diabetic to deal with their disease alone? Would you tell my wife to forget drugs to keep her MS under control and live with it if she ends up crippled or blind?
I see you didn't post roll does that mean you plan on quitting nicotine on your own? That won't work either, I can promise you that. Your young, and your odds aren't the greatest of quitting this nicotine use. That being said if you face the fact that you are addicted and take all the help and advise available you might win. Well I know I'm the old bastard (have kids older than you) but my experiences are yours if you don't tackle this now.

After posting roll check out the anxiety and depression forum in the wildcard section, you will find added support.

[copingwithoutcopen]

Schitzo, Welcome buddy! Your story's no different then a thousand others around here except you've made your decision sooner then most. Great choice btw but success depends on you going all in. Check out the welcome center, find your group and post your promise to quit every day. If you take these simple steps and keep your word, it's impossible to fail. You've manned up, stepped up, now follow through. Roam says sleeper cabs aren't as much fun when the trannys no good or your jaw falls off. Keep that in mind and get yourself on roll.

[RaliPaul]

Welcome to KTC. It will be tough to quit but will be worth it. Go into it knowing that you will succeed - one day at a time.
You do not want to delay your QUIT or next thing you know you'll be much older looking back at the many years you wasted opportunities to QUIT.
I agree with Paddington that Posting and coming to KTC can be painful because it reminds us that we had been putting this crap in our mouths for a while but I've realized that is necessary for me to stay accountable and on track.
I can definately relate to the anxiety and depression issues - I also can feel trapped within negative thoughts with an inability to think clearly. Aches in my head, back, neck, back of knees caused by stress. It definately sucks but you definately need to eliminate the tobacco.
Read my intro for some of my story.
You will post in May 2014 if you decide to make the commitment to our team. Welcome!

[Paddington]

There is a lot to talk about in your intro. I want to cover three subjects.

1.) Firstly nicotine the "drug" itself and not tobacco the plant, is in many ways an anti-depressant. It works in a similar fashion as some pharmaceuticals. Zyban or Wellbutrin the medication they prescribe in order to stop anxiety/cravings/depression during someones quit is actually prescribed to people with depression, anxiety, and even ADD/ADHD who are not tobacco users. With nicotine withdrawals it somewhat continues the same action of blocking the re-uptake of dopamine, along with other actions. If you know you have a diagnosed illness and you used tobacco to medicate then perhaps quitting is the first step, and getting help even if it is not medication is the next. You yourself admitted you used nicotine to treat a problem, so help yourself and get a real tool to solve the greater issue.

2.) Quitting is going to suck. I read on here that- "Its going to get worse before it gets better". That hits the nail right on the head. You better know what your in for and be ready. Don't waste your time or anyone else'.

3.) You are not alone, but you have to be accountable. If you come here and expect something you have to put something in. I am on day 42 this morning. Last week was like week one, this week has been a breeze. I feel as if tobacco and me had never met. Coming on KTC to post roll actually has made me mad because it brings up the fact that I was putting that shit in my mouth. That might be how I feel now but posting roll and checking in is an insurance policy. While I might be cruising right now, next week might be the "worst" week of my life and I might need the help. When it is the worst week of your life sometimes just reading what others have written, facts on the main page, or branching out and reading any material related to what is going on in your head and body can really help.

Read everything that is sticky noted. Read through a few introductions, read and watch the video on how to post roll. Then do it. Don't wait. Commit and go forward. This is going to be hard but trust me it is going to be worth it.

I am no expert quitter or veteran. In the bigger picture I am more closely related to where you are at when compared to some of the guys on here who are at a year or greater. Having said that in just 41 days I have made such a drastic change. From waking up in the morning only to reach over for my can before I even open my eyes to waking up and not even thinking about it. I don't need to go into details about how awesome that is. You and everyone else knows how shitty it feels when you realize your every moment is dictated by a can and how awesome it would be to break that. Well I did this morning and I will do it tomorrow morning and so can you.

Welcome.

[HauntedSchizo19]

Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head! 'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is: 'Finger'