Caver, im back

[emoney]

I wanted to make this post regarding my day 4 to give comfort to others that may experience the same things and for me to read later when I get a crave.

I briefly explained what has brought me here after caving in 2018 after 120 days.  Starting in June, I started having terrible panic attacks.  Full blown meltdown in public, rush to the ER panic attacks.  Out of nowhere, or so I thought.  Basically I would get vertigo, and think I was dying, heart palpatations etc.  Once at the ER I would be ok, EKG was good, etc.  I just turned 44.  It is important to understand that I was extremely social, active, and healthy.  This quickly changed after the panic attacks, I am afraid and high anxiety all of the time.  Fearing another attack will happen at any moment, and they do, sometimes 10 in a day.  I went to the doctors, first one said TMJ and anxiety disorder. This confused me because I had never experienced anything like these mental challenges, how does this happen out of the blue? I thought.  Turns out I have an issue in my labyrinth in my ears...partly because of chewing for 20 years.
      So, for 9 weeks, I have been in hell, had an allergic reaction to the steroid prednisone, had terrible reactions to some mental meds including crazy shit like intrusive and suicidal thoughts, etc.
    The whole time, I'm still chewing lmao.  Finally I started researching, and the links between nicotine and anxiety and panic are staggering.  I threw away my stash on Sat night and logged into KTC.
   So yesterday(day 4) I experienced all of these symptoms:
Nausea, flu-like, ear pain, jaw pain(excruciating), body aches, and massive headaches.  It got to a point while I was driving, that I thought I was having a stroke, could barely keep my head up, it scared the shit out of me.  But I also had fleeting intrusive thoughts, crazy town shit.  I had to breathe and work through it, getting home and forcing myself to lay down.  I will tell you, it was top 5 most agonizing 3 hour periods in my life.

I had over 20 texts from fellow quitters, checking on me, encouraging me etc, and I can tell you without a doubt they helped save my quit yesterday when I was in so much agony and the thought of a dip making it all go away crossed my mind.

Day 5 today, posted roll, I will keep my promise today. I quit with all of you today.

Yeah night 2 and night 3 were awful for me. Short of breath, palpitations, waking up feeling like I was suffocating, then these dreamlike thoughts that just brought feelings of indefinite dread. Thankfully every night since has been an improvement and we’re getting healthier everyday. Glad to be quitting with you today

emoney

[Haas22]

I wanted to make this post regarding my day 4 to give comfort to others that may experience the same things and for me to read later when I get a crave.

I briefly explained what has brought me here after caving in 2018 after 120 days.  Starting in June, I started having terrible panic attacks.  Full blown meltdown in public, rush to the ER panic attacks.  Out of nowhere, or so I thought.  Basically I would get vertigo, and think I was dying, heart palpatations etc.  Once at the ER I would be ok, EKG was good, etc.  I just turned 44.  It is important to understand that I was extremely social, active, and healthy.  This quickly changed after the panic attacks, I am afraid and high anxiety all of the time.  Fearing another attack will happen at any moment, and they do, sometimes 10 in a day.  I went to the doctors, first one said TMJ and anxiety disorder. This confused me because I had never experienced anything like these mental challenges, how does this happen out of the blue? I thought.  Turns out I have an issue in my labyrinth in my ears...partly because of chewing for 20 years.
      So, for 9 weeks, I have been in hell, had an allergic reaction to the steroid prednisone, had terrible reactions to some mental meds including crazy shit like intrusive and suicidal thoughts, etc.
    The whole time, I'm still chewing lmao.  Finally I started researching, and the links between nicotine and anxiety and panic are staggering.  I threw away my stash on Sat night and logged into KTC.
   So yesterday(day 4) I experienced all of these symptoms:
Nausea, flu-like, ear pain, jaw pain(excruciating), body aches, and massive headaches.  It got to a point while I was driving, that I thought I was having a stroke, could barely keep my head up, it scared the shit out of me.  But I also had fleeting intrusive thoughts, crazy town shit.  I had to breathe and work through it, getting home and forcing myself to lay down.  I will tell you, it was top 5 most agonizing 3 hour periods in my life.

I had over 20 texts from fellow quitters, checking on me, encouraging me etc, and I can tell you without a doubt they helped save my quit yesterday when I was in so much agony and the thought of a dip making it all go away crossed my mind.

Day 5 today, posted roll, I will keep my promise today. I quit with all of you today.

[Haas22]

Day 4, wow.  Anxiety through the fuking roof, jaw and ear pain, dizzy, lost, sick, foggy, faking my way through at work, looking forward to crawling into bed and posting roll tom.  I have texts from guys that are here for me, that got my back, and are absolutely helping me through, thank you all,and I quit today.

You got this man. My digits are always there for the asking. Keep fighting one minute, one hour, one day at a time.

Thank you for the support my friend, and as i promised on roll call this am, I will not fuking put that shit in my body...I know i have brothers in the suck with me, im here my friends holding the line.

[MN_Engineer]

Day 4, wow.  Anxiety through the fuking roof, jaw and ear pain, dizzy, lost, sick, foggy, faking my way through at work, looking forward to crawling into bed and posting roll tom.  I have texts from guys that are here for me, that got my back, and are absolutely helping me through, thank you all,and I quit today.

You got this man. My digits are always there for the asking. Keep fighting one minute, one hour, one day at a time.

[Haas22]

Day 4, wow.  Anxiety through the fuking roof, jaw and ear pain, dizzy, lost, sick, foggy, faking my way through at work, looking forward to crawling into bed and posting roll tom.  I have texts from guys that are here for me, that got my back, and are absolutely helping me through, thank you all,and I quit today.

[Haas22]

I remember you.

And I you, you were integral in my quit in 2018, i let you and a lot of others down when I caved.  I got cocky after 100, lost my way, and the nic bitch waited and pounced.  It will not happen again.  I quit today with all of you.

[Athan]

I remember you.

[nick-Otine Free]

I quit for 120 days in july 2018.  I caved.  Divorce and some other things, i was weak.  I have chewed grizzly wintergreen pouches for 10 years, kodiak straight 10 years before that.  In June of this year, i began suffering panic attacks...often.  I have been to a ton of doctors and been diagnosed with everything from TMJ, ear infection, and panic disorder.  I tried some diff meds that really fucked me up mentally.  The whole time I'm chewing....Sun Up to Sun Down.  I started reading and studying, and now believe that the massive inflow of nicotine and other chemicals to my brain has caused my body to have issues at 44.  I quit on Saturday night....cold turkey....again.  I am addicted, and i never want to dip again.  I quit with all of you, again.
Massive dizziness, fog, paranoia, dry mouth are here. Im using life savers as my oral medicine...it worked for me last time.  Look forward to staying strong with you again.

Haas you are the man. Glad you’re back. I’m also a previous caver and you’re in my group. We’re in this together. Start doing some light cardio and weights immediately it will help with the anxiety and you’ll feel great. I quit with you today

You remind me of me. I quit with you today.

Water, Exercise, and TeaZa fake pouches exceled me to my HOF day. stick to the course no matter the challenges that rage around you. Its worth everything!

[Stranger999]

Thank you for your words gentlemen, it's gonna be a tough battle next 15 days

we focus one day at a time here. I don’t know what is special about 15 days but we can only control our quit TODAY. let tomorrow take care of itself.

Post roll. Keep your promise for the next 24 hours. Rinse and repeat.

I had to make it through day 2 to get to day 3.  I had to make it through day 3 to get to day 4.  Quitting is a struggle that needs to be tackled every day.  I quit with you today!

[MN_Engineer]

Thank you for your words gentlemen, it's gonna be a tough battle next 15 days

we focus one day at a time here. I don’t know what is special about 15 days but we can only control our quit TODAY. let tomorrow take care of itself.

Post roll. Keep your promise for the next 24 hours. Rinse and repeat.

[wastepanel]

Thank you for your words gentlemen, it's gonna be a tough battle next 15 days

Why are worried about the next 15 days?

You quit now?  Can you stay quit the rest of the day?

We can worry about tomorrow when it comes.

[Haas22]

Thank you for your words gentlemen, it's gonna be a tough battle next 15 days

[Zombo Funk]

I quit for 120 days in july 2018.  I caved.  Divorce and some other things, i was weak.  I have chewed grizzly wintergreen pouches for 10 years, kodiak straight 10 years before that.  In June of this year, i began suffering panic attacks...often.  I have been to a ton of doctors and been diagnosed with everything from TMJ, ear infection, and panic disorder.  I tried some diff meds that really fucked me up mentally.  The whole time I'm chewing....Sun Up to Sun Down.  I started reading and studying, and now believe that the massive inflow of nicotine and other chemicals to my brain has caused my body to have issues at 44.  I quit on Saturday night....cold turkey....again.  I am addicted, and i never want to dip again.  I quit with all of you, again.
Massive dizziness, fog, paranoia, dry mouth are here. Im using life savers as my oral medicine...it worked for me last time.  Look forward to staying strong with you again.

Haas you are the man. Glad you’re back. I’m also a previous caver and you’re in my group. We’re in this together. Start doing some light cardio and weights immediately it will help with the anxiety and you’ll feel great. I quit with you today

You remind me of me. I quit with you today.

[emoney]

I quit for 120 days in july 2018.  I caved.  Divorce and some other things, i was weak.  I have chewed grizzly wintergreen pouches for 10 years, kodiak straight 10 years before that.  In June of this year, i began suffering panic attacks...often.  I have been to a ton of doctors and been diagnosed with everything from TMJ, ear infection, and panic disorder.  I tried some diff meds that really fucked me up mentally.  The whole time I'm chewing....Sun Up to Sun Down.  I started reading and studying, and now believe that the massive inflow of nicotine and other chemicals to my brain has caused my body to have issues at 44.  I quit on Saturday night....cold turkey....again.  I am addicted, and i never want to dip again.  I quit with all of you, again.
Massive dizziness, fog, paranoia, dry mouth are here. Im using life savers as my oral medicine...it worked for me last time.  Look forward to staying strong with you again.

Haas you are the man. Glad you’re back. I’m also a previous caver and you’re in my group. We’re in this together. Start doing some light cardio and weights immediately it will help with the anxiety and you’ll feel great. I quit with you today

[Haas22]

I quit for 120 days in july 2018.  I caved.  Divorce and some other things, i was weak.  I have chewed grizzly wintergreen pouches for 10 years, kodiak straight 10 years before that.  In June of this year, i began suffering panic attacks...often.  I have been to a ton of doctors and been diagnosed with everything from TMJ, ear infection, and panic disorder.  I tried some diff meds that really fucked me up mentally.  The whole time I'm chewing....Sun Up to Sun Down.  I started reading and studying, and now believe that the massive inflow of nicotine and other chemicals to my brain has caused my body to have issues at 44.  I quit on Saturday night....cold turkey....again.  I am addicted, and i never want to dip again.  I quit with all of you, again.
Massive dizziness, fog, paranoia, dry mouth are here. Im using life savers as my oral medicine...it worked for me last time.  Look forward to staying strong with you again.