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Re: My Quit
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2014, 11:48:00 AM »
Day 25. Quarter way to the immediate milestone. While I know the numbers say how few will make it with me to the HOF and beyond, it stills hurts when a Titan falls to the wayside. I'm still bothered by Idaho Minor. He was active, but I guess didn't truly buy in. He is the only active guy that used Kakao that is gone, so something is going well there. I truly think making the personal connections is key. Once you stop giving your word to letters and numbers on Roll, but instead to people that are becoming friends it makes it real.

While I want to be invested in all the members of my group, I can't let it hurt my QUIT when they cave.

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Re: My Quit
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2014, 10:15:00 PM »
Man, my group is tightening up. Getting to know people on a personal level and having not just ownership of your own QUIT, but the Group Quit is some powerful stuff.
Entering a Fantasy Football league with some of my Titan Brothers and another one with some of my KTC family at large. That takes us through December and you can't play FF with Quitters if you're a Caver. I'm still ODAAT and always will be, but setting up things where it would be awkward and downright painful to cave is a good thing.

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Re: My Quit
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2014, 04:16:00 PM »
Unfucking roll sucks, but try it sometime. Don't just unfuck your group, unfuck the supporters to. It's kind of a weird narcissistic sense of accomplishment.

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Re: My Quit
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2014, 06:07:00 PM »
Tone is so important. You can have the best message in the world, but if it isn't received then you're just pissing in the wind. Something to remember as a sender.
Tone isn't always important. If you can look past the tone that makes someone seem like an ass, you might just receive a good message. Something to remember as a receiver.

I think people's tone or attitude bothers me so much because my natural inclination is to be an asshole. I work hard not to be one, so I'm probably more inclined to notice or be bothered by someone assholeness. Sometimes, I should cut and paste a message, then remove the part that makes me want to throat punch someone and read what remains. Sometimes you might still just find a steamy turd, but sometimes you'll find a gem.

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Re: My Quit
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2014, 05:59:00 PM »
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Just kind of cruising right now. Craves are down and weaker. Using this time to build my knowledge and awareness because I know it's just a phase. Nic Bitch will be attacking soon and I need to know what to expect. Also using this time to reach out to some newer guys. Hard to cave when people are looking to you.

Last night really cool thing happened. SP posted up on our Kakao group that a new guy was on our group roll page hurting and looking for support. Within minutes, and this was pretty late/early at night/morning, a few of us were on there posting to the guy and even had him signed up and in the Kakao chat. Guy said we helped keep him quit. Awesome use of tools and our October group reaching out. Felt pretty damn good.

Roll and just the positive peer pressure of the group are still the tools that I'm getting the most benefit from.
Bro, you've got a wisdom in your voice ... well, in your written word anyway. I sense you doing great things with the Titans in the days to come. I agree about one of your earlier posts regarding too many keyboard bravado brothers, but you are wise enough to just slide them into that bottom toolbox. Always help the quit ... yours and your brothers ... never hinder it. I'm pretty sure that is a pearl I picked up that was dropped by a vet before me, but I try to support its mentality. Thank you for your service brother, and for making my quit stronger this Saturday afternoon. I'll quit with you today, and I have a plan to wake up and do it again tomorrow, see you on roll ...
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Re: My Quit
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2014, 05:02:00 PM »
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Just kind of cruising right now. Craves are down and weaker. Using this time to build my knowledge and awareness because I know it's just a phase. Nic Bitch will be attacking soon and I need to know what to expect. Also using this time to reach out to some newer guys. Hard to cave when people are looking to you.

Last night really cool thing happened. SP posted up on our Kakao group that a new guy was on our group roll page hurting and looking for support. Within minutes, and this was pretty late/early at night/morning, a few of us were on there posting to the guy and even had him signed up and in the Kakao chat. Guy said we helped keep him quit. Awesome use of tools and our October group reaching out. Felt pretty damn good.

Roll and just the positive peer pressure of the group are still the tools that I'm getting the most benefit from.
Way to do it. You get it. Get the tool box prepped and ready. ODAAT.
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Re: My Quit
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2014, 04:49:00 PM »
Just kind of cruising right now. Craves are down and weaker. Using this time to build my knowledge and awareness because I know it's just a phase. Nic Bitch will be attacking soon and I need to know what to expect. Also using this time to reach out to some newer guys. Hard to cave when people are looking to you.

Last night really cool thing happened. SP posted up on our Kakao group that a new guy was on our group roll page hurting and looking for support. Within minutes, and this was pretty late/early at night/morning, a few of us were on there posting to the guy and even had him signed up and in the Kakao chat. Guy said we helped keep him quit. Awesome use of tools and our October group reaching out. Felt pretty damn good.

Roll and just the positive peer pressure of the group are still the tools that I'm getting the most benefit from.

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Re: My Quit
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2014, 07:14:00 PM »
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I understand what your saying Applejack. Angry probably isn't the word I'm looking for. I really hope that the time comes when Cope never crosses my mind. I just never want to forget how much she sucked getting rid of, when she does cross my mind randomly.
Good posting bro. My thoughts; i don't crave much anymore at 516 but i don't think I'll/we will ever really forget it exists. What has actually been part of our lives for years.

I'm ok with that. I except what i can't change, but the person I'm becoming because of this experience means something. I'm turning what could have been an absolute bad outcome into somethimg worth remembering. Quit with you today. Keep that strong quit going, it's worth it
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Re: My Quit
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2014, 06:49:00 PM »
I understand what your saying Applejack. Angry probably isn't the word I'm looking for. I really hope that the time comes when Cope never crosses my mind. I just never want to forget how much she sucked getting rid of, when she does cross my mind randomly.

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Re: My Quit
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2014, 01:06:00 PM »
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Something we were talking about on Kakao last night that I want to remember. I hope that some day I stop thinking about the can, but when I do think about it, I always want to be angry.
... Or not.

I tried being angry. I worked hard at it but... It's just not in me to be that kinda guy. I do, however, hate nicotine with a passion. It may seem like a fine line... So be it.

Right now, at 456, I'm VERY content to be in a position where it's rare that I do think about it. Obviously bro... You do what works for you! It's your quit... Rock it like you need to. I'm just presenting a flip-side... I'd rather not expend any more energy or thought on it. It owned me for 25 years. Now?... I'm in control. That freedom is what I dig and I want to enjoy it.

Rock on bro...
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Re: My Quit
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2014, 12:39:00 PM »
Something we were talking about on Kakao last night that I want to remember. I hope that some day I stop thinking about the can, but when I do think about it, I always want to be angry.

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Re: My Quit
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2014, 08:58:00 PM »
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Shitty fucking day, but they happen. Long day at the VA dealing with stupidity and getting nothing accomplished. I hate how noisy that place is so my PTSD is tweaking and aroussed like a mofo. Having to spend my energy keeping the demons at bay and staying in the here in now takes energy away from my QUIT. I made sure I had Jolly Rancher's so that was smart and helped with the oral fixation, but the Cope Slut was such a crutch that I used when annoyed or stressed. I really had to work at my quit today once I left the VA. In the truck and straight home. I was dying of thirst from having to fast and then not getting blood drawn until afternoon, but I knew I couldn't stop and get something. Nic Bitch was begging me to come pick her up at every store I passed, telling me all kind of lies of how she was on my side and would help keep the demons at bay. I'm smarter and stronger now though. I know she's a false friend and Blue Falcon. I said no to the goldigging whore that is Nicotine today.

Lessons learned today:
Shit that I know that is going to be a stress-er, but I have to go out and about to, have some fake in the truck. I'm not a big fan of fake chew, not judging those that do, I just don't really like what I've tried so far, but keep a can in the truck for these times.

Letting my Quit Group know when it's going to be rough is key. VaYooper sending a morning check-in put my promise to my group right in front of my mind, even though I didn't post roll before I left, my promise to them was out there in public. The rest of the jackasses posting about where I was and what I was supposedly doing in our chat let's me know I'm not alone and solidifies that my QUIT isn't just mine, but I'm part of a Greater Quit.

The support and accountability that I've built is what got me home today. You have to work at the QUIT even when it's easier, so that when that Bitch comes on strong, you're strong and prepared. If you half-ass it and don't work to have a network, then when those really rough days come, you won't be prepared. Work your QUIT everyday to strengthen it just a little more. Reach out to someone. Get to know something about your group. Let them know what's going on with you so they can watch your 6.

Don't be casual with the QUIT, that Nic Bitch is always watching and waiting. Checking and probing to see where your weaknesses are. You have to self-assess and do buddy check's so you know where your weaknesses are beforehand and have a plan so she can't exploit them.

I'm QUIT today with the TITANS of QUIT.
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Re: My Quit
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2014, 08:12:00 PM »
Shitty fucking day, but they happen. Long day at the VA dealing with stupidity and getting nothing accomplished. I hate how noisy that place is so my PTSD is tweaking and aroussed like a mofo. Having to spend my energy keeping the demons at bay and staying in the here in now takes energy away from my QUIT. I made sure I had Jolly Rancher's so that was smart and helped with the oral fixation, but the Cope Slut was such a crutch that I used when annoyed or stressed. I really had to work at my quit today once I left the VA. In the truck and straight home. I was dying of thirst from having to fast and then not getting blood drawn until afternoon, but I knew I couldn't stop and get something. Nic Bitch was begging me to come pick her up at every store I passed, telling me all kind of lies of how she was on my side and would help keep the demons at bay. I'm smarter and stronger now though. I know she's a false friend and Blue Falcon. I said no to the goldigging whore that is Nicotine today.

Lessons learned today:
Shit that I know that is going to be a stress-er, but I have to go out and about to, have some fake in the truck. I'm not a big fan of fake chew, not judging those that do, I just don't really like what I've tried so far, but keep a can in the truck for these times.

Letting my Quit Group know when it's going to be rough is key. VaYooper sending a morning check-in put my promise to my group right in front of my mind, even though I didn't post roll before I left, my promise to them was out there in public. The rest of the jackasses posting about where I was and what I was supposedly doing in our chat let's me know I'm not alone and solidifies that my QUIT isn't just mine, but I'm part of a Greater Quit.

The support and accountability that I've built is what got me home today. You have to work at the QUIT even when it's easier, so that when that Bitch comes on strong, you're strong and prepared. If you half-ass it and don't work to have a network, then when those really rough days come, you won't be prepared. Work your QUIT everyday to strengthen it just a little more. Reach out to someone. Get to know something about your group. Let them know what's going on with you so they can watch your 6.

Don't be casual with the QUIT, that Nic Bitch is always watching and waiting. Checking and probing to see where your weaknesses are. You have to self-assess and do buddy check's so you know where your weaknesses are beforehand and have a plan so she can't exploit them.

I'm QUIT today with the TITANS of QUIT.

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Re: My Quit
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2014, 03:41:00 PM »
I've felt like complete shit the past two days. Still do today. Like the Balkan crud, mixed with the flu and a hangover. I know it's just the Nic Bitch's way of trying to draw me in. How she will ease my pain, just like I thought she was doing for the past 17 years, all the while she was really just trying to control me.
I never really thought about the control this drug had/trys to still have, over me. I was an open dipper, in fact my wife didn't like my last attempt at quit probably 13 or 14 years ago so much, that she never pressured me again. I worked mainly outside until towards the end of my career, and then I have my own "mystical mess" and office that I dipped in, against government rules. Looking back now though, she controlled so many things. I couldn't get a boat underway without her. Any high-risk evolution, she was there beside me. I didn't think much about it at the time, but everytime I looked away for a second to spit, she was controlling my SA and compromising the safety of the evolution. Thank God she never did, but she increased a risky business.
I spent a huge amount of money on her, and she never gave me anything real in return. She gave me the facade of a calming influence, but that's all it was, a facade. I've mentioned that I have PTSD. It's pretty severe, but I've worked my ass off the past 19 months since I finally sought help. I've learned that I provide calm by controlling my breathing, pausing my thoughts, working on physical cues that relate to mental images I've prepared, all kinds of pysch-babble kumbaha shit. And just like with that, I've taken what works for me and put it on the top shelf of my tool box, the rest I put down low. I don't throw it away because it might have value later, or I can adapt it. That's how I feel about this site. I'm not big on the, what seems to me, false bravado of in your face that many people have. To me, it seems like the bs of any course, class, CCTI, SLC that I've been through in the past. But, maybe it works for others, so I put that down on the bottom shelf and don't let it interfer with my Quit. I think some people are over the top on the quitting nicotine is the most important thing in life part, and that death is only a $5 can away. I've never had the hint of a scare, my dentist never made note of my dipping, even at 2 cans a day. Good genes I guess, but quitting nicotine isn't the most important thing to me. I battle minute by minute with my demons. I've been at the immediate point of death from my PTSD. I've driven off into the ice, I've had the metal in my mouth, that is why I constantly stand on guard that I don't fall into the downward spiral that I've been in before. It takes constant watch, vigilance, dedication for me to survive in the life that I'm trying to create for me. Added to the daily pain from failed surgeries, burnt nerves and other things, quiting the nic bitch isn't the most immediately important thing in my life. My quit is something that I want to do. I had the perfect opportunity with retirement changing my environment, added to having a solid set of coping skills and one morning of realizing I didn't enjoy it anymore equaled quit. Now, I think about how much she controlled my life and I hate her for her deception. I've got a solid group of guys, and gal, in my group, on my team and I quit with them out of loyalty. My team are my Brothers, and I will do anything for my Brothers. At roll call, I give my word that I won't use nicotine for that day, and my word is solid, it's everything to me. I know I can do anything for a day. Those are the tools that I put on my top shelf, breathing exercises, my quit group and roll call. They help get me through the day, and I try to give back to them just as much.
This got kind of rambling, but it's my thoughts of my quit to look back on. To remember the tools that work for me. I'm not knocking anyone else's thoughts or methods, just for me to remember down the road or when I start swerving. Whatever works for the Quit, besides heroin and adultery, I'm good with, because this bitch is strong.
I don't ever have to feel the physical illness I feel right now ever again. Every day I get further away from the destructive relationship with the Nic Bitch.

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Re: My Quit
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2014, 07:42:00 PM »
Tom, nice post above. Use this as a rolling log for reference, it is just another tool we have to remind ourselves what it is we have at stake. Being introspective and honest during your quit, especially at the start is critical to a successful quit. Quit with today!
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