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[Grizzly25]

Day 18 Ultrasound on my wife showed a cyst on her liver. This is the second time in 4 years we are going through this. No big deal just got to stay positive. Over the months I will post updates.

Sorry to hear that brother, just stay positive and maybe this can help you I heard it a few days ago....

"Everything ends well, so if things didnt end well for you it means they are not at the end."

Stay strong focused and QUIT!!!

18 days is great but dont lose your focus!

[raiderx]

Day 18 Ultrasound on my wife showed a cyst on her liver. This is the second time in 4 years we are going through this. No big deal just got to stay positive. Over the months I will post updates.

[raiderx]

got some great advice today. Thanks guys

Day 16

Last week has been very unproductive. Irritabile, angry, short tempered, you name it I was it. Basically a fucking asshole. I need to find a way to deal with the stress. Exercise has helped. Now have to make the time to work out more. When I find the time, something comes up that needs my attention ( work, home, volunteer position drama). Now workout time gone. that has been the week. Stress mounts - no outlet so what do I do- take it out on the wife.WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG...............................................WRONG. She has been nothing but supportive and I have been an ass. But what is interesting is that the feelings are not new. There have been things in our lives for the last 3 years that have been extremely stressful and part of the coping mechanism was dip. I see that now. Brother in law does something retarded - trigger- take a dip. Wife not feeling well again for the 625 day in a row- trigger- take a dip. Drama with the car (call me on the road because I can fix it) - trigger- take a dip. Mapping out home finances and wife does not want to face reality and ignores me - trigger - take a dip. What I need to find is something to replace dip after trigger. I would say go for a walk but yesterday 6" of snow fell in like 3 hrs. ( PS part of all of this could be cabin fever- winter really sucks up here). So I am still working on that part.

Peace out

[raiderx]

'bang head' OK Day 11, people at work do not fucking listen, dealing with fucktards all day. Why do people fucking make a decision with out knowing the fucking question. ( Yes that is the level of stupidity I am dealing with today. Question by me: What is it that management wishes to track? We should know that before making a decision? Answer by dumbass 10 minutes later: You have a great point. We are going with prospal A which may not meet our needs at all). Really, are you fucking kidding me.

Next, person we asked to help us out at the golf course until we can get a new manager says Sure I can do it, no problem but I will be gone for all of April. Really, you mean the month we need you, you are gone. Fuck plan B on to Plan fucking C.

I want a dip so bad I can taste it. BUT I WILL NOT FUCKING GIVE IN. NO FUCKING WAY!!!!!!!! 'Finger'


Close the office door - thank the lord for doors to offices
Breath deep.... yes..... good
Smack head on desk ..... ouch that hurts
Type.......ramble.....make no sense.....type some more
Breath more
It will be ok

[Souliman]

I'm speechless except to say.  Thank you for the post!  Good stuff.

Arjun - Im Quit for 4 days that is its been a little more than 96 hrs since my last dip and im loving it.. I want it this way for sure everyday !

Good stuff indeed.

Here are my questions for YOU, and I hate to do it here but there seems to be no other place to do it.

1. Where is your introduction post?
2. Where are your roll posts?

You've been here since January and have 4 posts. As far as I can tell you quit exactly one day a month. A couple of weeks ago I sent you a PM offering support and advice... not a word.

If you're you may as well utilize ALL of the tools available to help you with your quit. That means to get active and post roll. Make a promise.


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As for raiderx, excellent work so far, keep it up and stay quit!

Some damn solid advice there. You can find a whole bunch of things on here. The one thing you won't find is a reason to consume nicotine.

[jjprice]

I'm speechless except to say.  Thank you for the post!  Good stuff.

Arjun - Im Quit for 4 days that is its been a little more than 96 hrs since my last dip and im loving it.. I want it this way for sure everyday !

Good stuff indeed.

Here are my questions for YOU, and I hate to do it here but there seems to be no other place to do it.

1. Where is your introduction post?
2. Where are your roll posts?

You've been here since January and have 4 posts. As far as I can tell you quit exactly one day a month. A couple of weeks ago I sent you a PM offering support and advice... not a word.

If you're you may as well utilize ALL of the tools available to help you with your quit. That means to get active and post roll. Make a promise.


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As for raiderx, excellent work so far, keep it up and stay quit!

[arjun]

I am new.  9 days no tobacco.  This the longest since I was 21 and I am 42 now.

Over the last 9 dais I have experienced all the things mentioned on this website and I expect I will experience them many more times plus other things.  I have had insomina; exhaustion; nic rage; headaches so bad that I thought my head would explode; and the rest. 

Over the last few days I have been reading a lot of posts both in June and elsewhere and I being new I did not feel it was my place to put post my thoughts but then I read mthomas posts and it has inspired me so I would like to impart my wisdom not on quitting but on a few things in general.

1.  Quitting nicotine is hard.  It will be one of (if not the ) hardest things we will ever do.
2.  Quitting is personal.  The choice is yours alone to make.  What is said on this site about having to quit for you is so very true.  You have to do this for you and you alone.
3.   We are addicts.  I have read this 1000 times.  But guess what.  Almost ever person in the developed world is a addict to something.  We just dress it up different.  If you worked out 3 hrs a day 7 days a week and looked like The Rock then people would call you devoted but that is also an addiction.  Our addiction is a bad one - nicotine.  You HAVE to admit it. 
4. You are not alone.  I live in a place where not alot of people that I associate with dip.  I got started while working at a natural gas refinery over the summers.  I am college educated and I have collegues in the highest reaches of government and business.  In short I am smart person with alot going for me.  But I am also I complete fucking idiot because for 20 years I have been killing myself.  How fucking stupid is that.  I have had beautiful women in my life who would have bore my children but they left because I would not quit.  Now I am 42 and my wife and I are unsure if we can have children.  Does a smart person do that.  FUCK NO.  But you see I thought I was alone.  I was not sure how to quit.  I was ashamed of my addiction until I found this site.  Now I am trying to embrace my addiction , put it in a headlock and fuck it up.  That is what I am going to do with my addiction.  But I need help.  I need a place that will hold me accountable.  I need a place to go over morning and make that promise.  I need to know I am not alone. Just knowing that helps more than anyone ( who is not on this site) can imagine.


To the ones who feel you can do this alone:
You might be able to quit alone
That is your choice. I am not going to say that it is right or wrong.  It is your choice.
We are here if you need us but remember trust is earned.  Here it is earned one day at a time.

To the vets who hold us accountable:
Be patient
Try and be kind
Remember everyone's quit is different and personal
You are giving us your experiences and arming us with the tools and that is all you can do and it is enough.

Finally to the members of the quit group
Lets hold ourselves accountable.  I know that the only person on this site that I hurt if I cave is really and truly myself.  And I am NOT OK with that.  I need the people in my quit group to keep doing what they are doing and just be there.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Raiderx

Raiderx-
Keep reading! One of the best things about this site is we all get to learn from those that came before us. It has helped me tremendously to know what is likely to occur. At day 46 I'm past most of the real annoying stuff. It does get better and keeps getting better. Post roll, stay close to the site.

I'm speechless except to say. Thank you for the post! Good stuff.

Arjun - Im Quit for 4 days that is its been a little more than 96 hrs since my last dip and im loving it.. I want it this way for sure everyday !

[Mthomas3824]

I am new.  9 days no tobacco.  This the longest since I was 21 and I am 42 now.

Over the last 9 dais I have experienced all the things mentioned on this website and I expect I will experience them many more times plus other things.  I have had insomina; exhaustion; nic rage; headaches so bad that I thought my head would explode; and the rest. 

Over the last few days I have been reading a lot of posts both in June and elsewhere and I being new I did not feel it was my place to put post my thoughts but then I read mthomas posts and it has inspired me so I would like to impart my wisdom not on quitting but on a few things in general.

1.  Quitting nicotine is hard.  It will be one of (if not the ) hardest things we will ever do.
2.  Quitting is personal.  The choice is yours alone to make.  What is said on this site about having to quit for you is so very true.  You have to do this for you and you alone.
3.  We are addicts.  I have read this 1000 times.  But guess what.  Almost ever person in the developed world is a addict to something.  We just dress it up different.  If you worked out 3 hrs a day 7 days a week and looked like The Rock then people would call you devoted but that is also an addiction.  Our addiction is a bad one - nicotine.  You HAVE to admit it. 
4. You are not alone.  I live in a place where not alot of people that I associate with dip.  I got started while working at a natural gas refinery over the summers.  I am college educated and I have collegues in the highest reaches of government and business.  In short I am smart person with alot going for me.  But I am also I complete fucking idiot because for 20 years I have been killing myself.  How fucking stupid is that.  I have had beautiful women in my life who would have bore my children but they left because I would not quit.  Now I am 42 and my wife and I are unsure if we can have children.  Does a smart person do that.  FUCK NO.  But you see I thought I was alone.  I was not sure how to quit.  I was ashamed of my addiction until I found this site.  Now I am trying to embrace my addiction , put it in a headlock and fuck it up.  That is what I am going to do with my addiction.  But I need help.  I need a place that will hold me accountable.  I need a place to go over morning and make that promise.  I need to know I am not alone. Just knowing that helps more than anyone ( who is not on this site) can imagine.


To the ones who feel you can do this alone:
You might be able to quit alone
That is your choice. I am not going to say that it is right or wrong.  It is your choice.
We are here if you need us but remember trust is earned.  Here it is earned one day at a time.

To the vets who hold us accountable:
Be patient
Try and be kind
Remember everyone's quit is different and personal
You are giving us your experiences and arming us with the tools and that is all you can do and it is enough.

Finally to the members of the quit group
Lets hold ourselves accountable.  I know that the only person on this site that I hurt if I cave is really and truly myself.  And I am NOT OK with that.  I need the people in my quit group to keep doing what they are doing and just be there.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Raiderx

Raiderx-
Keep reading! One of the best things about this site is we all get to learn from those that came before us. It has helped me tremendously to know what is likely to occur. At day 46 I'm past most of the real annoying stuff. It does get better and keeps getting better. Post roll, stay close to the site.

I'm speechless except to say. Thank you for the post! Good stuff.

[T-Cell]

I am new. 9 days no tobacco. This the longest since I was 21 and I am 42 now.

Over the last 9 dais I have experienced all the things mentioned on this website and I expect I will experience them many more times plus other things. I have had insomina; exhaustion; nic rage; headaches so bad that I thought my head would explode; and the rest.

Over the last few days I have been reading a lot of posts both in June and elsewhere and I being new I did not feel it was my place to put post my thoughts but then I read mthomas posts and it has inspired me so I would like to impart my wisdom not on quitting but on a few things in general.

1. Quitting nicotine is hard. It will be one of (if not the ) hardest things we will ever do.
2. Quitting is personal. The choice is yours alone to make. What is said on this site about having to quit for you is so very true. You have to do this for you and you alone.
3. We are addicts. I have read this 1000 times. But guess what. Almost ever person in the developed world is a addict to something. We just dress it up different. If you worked out 3 hrs a day 7 days a week and looked like The Rock then people would call you devoted but that is also an addiction. Our addiction is a bad one - nicotine. You HAVE to admit it.
4. You are not alone. I live in a place where not alot of people that I associate with dip. I got started while working at a natural gas refinery over the summers. I am college educated and I have collegues in the highest reaches of government and business. In short I am smart person with alot going for me. But I am also I complete fucking idiot because for 20 years I have been killing myself. How fucking stupid is that. I have had beautiful women in my life who would have bore my children but they left because I would not quit. Now I am 42 and my wife and I are unsure if we can have children. Does a smart person do that. FUCK NO. But you see I thought I was alone. I was not sure how to quit. I was ashamed of my addiction until I found this site. Now I am trying to embrace my addiction , put it in a headlock and fuck it up. That is what I am going to do with my addiction. But I need help. I need a place that will hold me accountable. I need a place to go over morning and make that promise. I need to know I am not alone. Just knowing that helps more than anyone ( who is not on this site) can imagine.


To the ones who feel you can do this alone:
You might be able to quit alone
That is your choice. I am not going to say that it is right or wrong. It is your choice.
We are here if you need us but remember trust is earned. Here it is earned one day at a time.

To the vets who hold us accountable:
Be patient
Try and be kind
Remember everyone's quit is different and personal
You are giving us your experiences and arming us with the tools and that is all you can do and it is enough.

Finally to the members of the quit group
Lets hold ourselves accountable. I know that the only person on this site that I hurt if I cave is really and truly myself. And I am NOT OK with that. I need the people in my quit group to keep doing what they are doing and just be there.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Raiderx

Raiderx-
Keep reading! One of the best things about this site is we all get to learn from those that came before us. It has helped me tremendously to know what is likely to occur. At day 46 I'm past most of the real annoying stuff. It does get better and keeps getting better. Post roll, stay close to the site.

[Grizzly25]

I am new.  9 days no tobacco.  This the longest since I was 21 and I am 42 now.

Over the last 9 dais I have experienced all the things mentioned on this website and I expect I will experience them many more times plus other things.  I have had insomina; exhaustion; nic rage; headaches so bad that I thought my head would explode; and the rest. 

Over the last few days I have been reading a lot of posts both in June and elsewhere and I being new I did not feel it was my place to put post my thoughts but then I read mthomas posts and it has inspired me so I would like to impart my wisdom not on quitting but on a few things in general.

1.  Quitting nicotine is hard.  It will be one of (if not the ) hardest things we will ever do.
2.  Quitting is personal.  The choice is yours alone to make.  What is said on this site about having to quit for you is so very true.  You have to do this for you and you alone.
3.  We are addicts.  I have read this 1000 times.  But guess what.  Almost ever person in the developed world is a addict to something.  We just dress it up different.  If you worked out 3 hrs a day 7 days a week and looked like The Rock then people would call you devoted but that is also an addiction.  Our addiction is a bad one - nicotine.  You HAVE to admit it. 
4. You are not alone.  I live in a place where not alot of people that I associate with dip.  I got started while working at a natural gas refinery over the summers.  I am college educated and I have collegues in the highest reaches of government and business.  In short I am smart person with alot going for me.  But I am also I complete fucking idiot because for 20 years I have been killing myself.  How fucking stupid is that.  I have had beautiful women in my life who would have bore my children but they left because I would not quit.  Now I am 42 and my wife and I are unsure if we can have children.  Does a smart person do that.  FUCK NO.  But you see I thought I was alone.  I was not sure how to quit.  I was ashamed of my addiction until I found this site.  Now I am trying to embrace my addiction , put it in a headlock and fuck it up.  That is what I am going to do with my addiction.  But I need help.  I need a place that will hold me accountable.  I need a place to go over morning and make that promise.  I need to know I am not alone. Just knowing that helps more than anyone ( who is not on this site) can imagine.


To the ones who feel you can do this alone:
You might be able to quit alone
That is your choice. I am not going to say that it is right or wrong.  It is your choice.
We are here if you need us but remember trust is earned.  Here it is earned one day at a time.

To the vets who hold us accountable:
Be patient
Try and be kind
Remember everyone's quit is different and personal
You are giving us your experiences and arming us with the tools and that is all you can do and it is enough.

Finally to the members of the quit group
Lets hold ourselves accountable.  I know that the only person on this site that I hurt if I cave is really and truly myself.  And I am NOT OK with that.  I need the people in my quit group to keep doing what they are doing and just be there.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Raiderx

keep up the good work and it gets easier as time goes by!!!!

Nice work raider!!!

I post updates to myself just as reminders of what I have gone thru and as a good pick-me-up!

Stay focused on what your doing the longer you go the better you will feel.

[WoweeZowee216]

I am new. 9 days no tobacco. This the longest since I was 21 and I am 42 now.

Over the last 9 dais I have experienced all the things mentioned on this website and I expect I will experience them many more times plus other things. I have had insomina; exhaustion; nic rage; headaches so bad that I thought my head would explode; and the rest.

Over the last few days I have been reading a lot of posts both in June and elsewhere and I being new I did not feel it was my place to put post my thoughts but then I read mthomas posts and it has inspired me so I would like to impart my wisdom not on quitting but on a few things in general.

1. Quitting nicotine is hard. It will be one of (if not the ) hardest things we will ever do.
2. Quitting is personal. The choice is yours alone to make. What is said on this site about having to quit for you is so very true. You have to do this for you and you alone.
3. We are addicts. I have read this 1000 times. But guess what. Almost ever person in the developed world is a addict to something. We just dress it up different. If you worked out 3 hrs a day 7 days a week and looked like The Rock then people would call you devoted but that is also an addiction. Our addiction is a bad one - nicotine. You HAVE to admit it.
4. You are not alone. I live in a place where not alot of people that I associate with dip. I got started while working at a natural gas refinery over the summers. I am college educated and I have collegues in the highest reaches of government and business. In short I am smart person with alot going for me. But I am also I complete fucking idiot because for 20 years I have been killing myself. How fucking stupid is that. I have had beautiful women in my life who would have bore my children but they left because I would not quit. Now I am 42 and my wife and I are unsure if we can have children. Does a smart person do that. FUCK NO. But you see I thought I was alone. I was not sure how to quit. I was ashamed of my addiction until I found this site. Now I am trying to embrace my addiction , put it in a headlock and fuck it up. That is what I am going to do with my addiction. But I need help. I need a place that will hold me accountable. I need a place to go over morning and make that promise. I need to know I am not alone. Just knowing that helps more than anyone ( who is not on this site) can imagine.


To the ones who feel you can do this alone:
You might be able to quit alone
That is your choice. I am not going to say that it is right or wrong. It is your choice.
We are here if you need us but remember trust is earned. Here it is earned one day at a time.

To the vets who hold us accountable:
Be patient
Try and be kind
Remember everyone's quit is different and personal
You are giving us your experiences and arming us with the tools and that is all you can do and it is enough.

Finally to the members of the quit group
Lets hold ourselves accountable. I know that the only person on this site that I hurt if I cave is really and truly myself. And I am NOT OK with that. I need the people in my quit group to keep doing what they are doing and just be there.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Raiderx

keep up the good work and it gets easier as time goes by!!!!

[raiderx]

I am new. 9 days no tobacco. This the longest since I was 21 and I am 42 now.

Over the last 9 dais I have experienced all the things mentioned on this website and I expect I will experience them many more times plus other things. I have had insomina; exhaustion; nic rage; headaches so bad that I thought my head would explode; and the rest.

Over the last few days I have been reading a lot of posts both in June and elsewhere and I being new I did not feel it was my place to put post my thoughts but then I read mthomas posts and it has inspired me so I would like to impart my wisdom not on quitting but on a few things in general.

1. Quitting nicotine is hard. It will be one of (if not the ) hardest things we will ever do.
2. Quitting is personal. The choice is yours alone to make. What is said on this site about having to quit for you is so very true. You have to do this for you and you alone.
3. We are addicts. I have read this 1000 times. But guess what. Almost ever person in the developed world is a addict to something. We just dress it up different. If you worked out 3 hrs a day 7 days a week and looked like The Rock then people would call you devoted but that is also an addiction. Our addiction is a bad one - nicotine. You HAVE to admit it.
4. You are not alone. I live in a place where not alot of people that I associate with dip. I got started while working at a natural gas refinery over the summers. I am college educated and I have collegues in the highest reaches of government and business. In short I am smart person with alot going for me. But I am also I complete fucking idiot because for 20 years I have been killing myself. How fucking stupid is that. I have had beautiful women in my life who would have bore my children but they left because I would not quit. Now I am 42 and my wife and I are unsure if we can have children. Does a smart person do that. FUCK NO. But you see I thought I was alone. I was not sure how to quit. I was ashamed of my addiction until I found this site. Now I am trying to embrace my addiction , put it in a headlock and fuck it up. That is what I am going to do with my addiction. But I need help. I need a place that will hold me accountable. I need a place to go over morning and make that promise. I need to know I am not alone. Just knowing that helps more than anyone ( who is not on this site) can imagine.


To the ones who feel you can do this alone:
You might be able to quit alone
That is your choice. I am not going to say that it is right or wrong. It is your choice.
We are here if you need us but remember trust is earned. Here it is earned one day at a time.

To the vets who hold us accountable:
Be patient
Try and be kind
Remember everyone's quit is different and personal
You are giving us your experiences and arming us with the tools and that is all you can do and it is enough.

Finally to the members of the quit group
Lets hold ourselves accountable. I know that the only person on this site that I hurt if I cave is really and truly myself. And I am NOT OK with that. I need the people in my quit group to keep doing what they are doing and just be there.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Raiderx

[Souliman]

Keep fighting. You will get through this.

[raiderx]

I exercise quite regularly but thanks for the input.

[djr2]

Grizz is spot on with eating something prior to hitting the hay.. I found that exercising in the evening is a great closure to the day.. Not sure if you exercise, if you have children etc, but if you're fairly active an evening run would be perfect since it is starting to get warmer.. Eat a little snack, throw on some 'boob' and away ya go..!!