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Offline jcook

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Re: New To Forum
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2011, 11:50:00 PM »
Holy crap ...... SM, I have been here for a while and haven't read that. Not only am I proud of my quit, I am eternally thankful that I have survived my dance with the beast (so far at least). Wamb ........ you CAN do this, let's get our quit on!
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Re: New To Forum
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2011, 06:55:00 PM »
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I usually fall asleep at night with a chew in. I know it sounds gross but it is actually one of my favorite chews of the day. I love falling asleep watching TV with a big dip. I Wake up after two hours, throw it my spitter by the night stand, quick rinse and back to bed. I think it will be hard for me to sleep if I try quitting!
Thought you should read this post by MLS since this is one of your favorite chews
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Most, .. if not all who chose to quit dipping do so in fear of cancer and ultimately their fear of death from their addiction.


- Imagine being twelve and your first dip. Dad lets you do it around the garage with him as you tinker with his tools pretending to help. Pretty cool, huh?

- Imagine being fifteen and your friends start hanging out at your house 'cause it's okay to dip around your parents. Heck, most of their parents haven't a clue about the dipping ritual that happens after school.

- Imagine being nineteen and working with your father at his business. Both still dipping and enjoying the conversations you spend because you feel a connection, even if it has to do with dip.

- Imagine finding your first sore, gums raw but you still keep using. Dad says its happened to him but it'll go away. So you pack it to the other side of your mouth. It feels somewhat less painful that way.

- Imagine being twenty-one and the birth of your first and only son. Dipping the whole time your wife is in labor. So nervous but you need dip to take that edge off. Asking the nurses for a cup to spit into. Holding your son after birth, but in the back of your mind you know that you need to get another can since you're out.

- Imagine being twenty-seven and your now six yr old son wants to go hunting with you like he has many times before but you tell him he can't go. Unable to tell him why since there's going to be alcohol and a little party later at a friends house. Your son cries not understanding why Daddy won't take him hunting. You promise to take him real soon. Maybe next weekend. He pouts some but you're able to scoot out the door without him noticing.

- Imagine hunting while drinking some beer. Later on you're at a friends house you've known since grade school. You play a little poker and get somewhat carried away with the shots and liquor being passed around.

- Imagine feeling a bit dizzy and resting on the couch since the room won't stop spinning. Some time later others pass by and laugh 'cause your drunker than shit. They believed you have passed out since they hear you snoring.

- Imagine being so intoxicated to the point that you've swallow your snuff. What they believe was snoring was actually you gasping for air yet since you've been drinking, you're unable to move and get help .. you die .. not from cancer .. but from choking on your wad of dip.

Now imagine leaving behind your wife and son, mother, father and sister. Leaving behind your friends and one of the girls (me) who played truth or dare and was dared to kiss you. We were fourteen. (the time I started dipping secretly)

Imagine now, if cancer's truly the only culprit that can lead to your death.

This true story happened to a good friend of mine. Someone with a kind heart but just was stupid to think that he wasn't addicted. To proud thinking he was invincible to cancer and death. Yet sadly he died by asphyxiation.

He's gone by just a single dip!

-mylilsecret

Rest in peace, Jay Archibald! I hope you're death wasn't in vain and by me telling your story will help someone take that first step to quit.

Don't continue to be a dumbass nicotine junkie, real men are quitters, throw that shit in the trash and jump on in. The water is fine and you'll swim alright, we'll help.

Oh yeah, sleep is over rated anyhow and also million of people do it without a bed time dip.

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Re: New To Forum
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2011, 04:23:00 PM »
Welcome wamb. There are two plans for cold turkey quitters. Plan 1: hope that tomorrow you don't start again using the stuff you flushed previously. Plan 2: a plan to quit that starts today every day.

Plan 1 is how we've quit dozens of times in the past. Stopping was always something we did in the past, and starting again was what we eventually did later. This is also the plan, by the way, that's followed by users of nicotine patches, gums, etc.

The reason that Plan 1 does not work is rather obvious, when you think about it. Any plan that fears the suck is slave to the suck, and quitting, unavoidably, SUCKS.

But here, we follow plan 2, the simple plan, and we don't screw with it. And according to that plan, there is only one day to quit - as all these fine quitters have said - and that's today. We can't sign onto your plan to quit tomorrow, bro. We embrace the suck. And that's why, at the end of the day we'll be quit and you won't

It works. Join us.

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Re: New To Forum
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 03:39:00 PM »
Holy crap...what a great day to quit! I quit today.

Welcome wamb.

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Re: New To Forum
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 03:36:00 PM »
Quote from: wamb0010
Well - I am a 27 year old 1 can a day skoal straight chewer. Sometimes a little bit more. I Work at a stressful desk job, 60+ hours a week, in investment banking. I quit all forms of nicotine when I was 18 and held strong until I was 20. Then I got deployed to Baghdad, got stuck on a job with a high casulty rate and one day decided to have a ciggarette, I was like F it. Ever since then I have been hooked and gaining momentum. There have been 1 at most 2 month periods where I quit. My biggest success was using the nicotine patch, not the nicotine gum, hate that crap. It always seems that I go out and get plastered, don't have enough will power, have a cigarette, get the nicotine back in my system, struggle the next day, fight with my girlfriend, and end up going to the store to get a can to take the edge off.

I usually fall asleep at night with a chew in. I know it sounds gross but it is actually one of my favorite chews of the day. I love falling asleep watching TV with a big dip. I Wake up after two hours, throw it my spitter by the night stand, quick rinse and back to bed. I think it will be hard for me to sleep if I try quitting!

It is going to be very difficult for me to quit but hopefully this place will help. I also think I have a drinking problem. Might try to do a 180 and clean my act up or I will be dead in 10 years. Been thinking about joining AA. Went to a meeting but didn't really like the people there. I live in Downtown minneapolis and I can't really relate to the homeless people, gay/transvestiites, and the hard core crack-heads etc. Nothing against them. Just hard for me to relate, need someone more like myself.

Anyways, I haven't really declared a quit day but I was thinkign about tomorrow. I find this forum a little hard to navigate so I may ask some stupid noob questions.

Also - I thought I read on here before in the past that using a nicotine patch or gum is not recomended. Is this true. Are you supposed to go cold turkey?
Glad you want to quit. Yes, this is a cold turkey site, meaning you can't post roll until you are nicotine free. We post roll each day as a promise not to use nicotine in any form. If you are going to quit nicotine today, you would be in the June 2011 HOF Quit Group. That is where you would post your promise. I suggest you go there and see what a badass group of quitters you could be joining. Also keep reading everything you can on this site.

I screwed around with nic gum for about 7 days until I finally realized that I wasn't freeing myself from my addiction. I started thinking that I might as well start dipping since I hadn't quit nicotine yet. I thought I could try again later when I was really ready to quit. That is when I trashed the gum and got busy quitting. I still went through the same suck that everyone who quits cold turkey goes through, I just delayed the misery and wasted 50 bucks on nicotine gum.

There is no better day than today to reclaim your freedom. Trash all nicotine and go the June 2011 group and post your name with those other badasses and then focus on one day at a time or one hour at a time or whatever else you need to do to keep the worm dirt out of your face. If I can do it, you can do it.

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Re: New To Forum
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 03:36:00 PM »
Hmm. Q: Why not quit today?

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Re: New To Forum
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 03:34:00 PM »
Quote from: wamb0010
Well - I am a 27 year old 1 can a day skoal straight chewer. Sometimes a little bit more. I Work at a stressful desk job, 60+ hours a week, in investment banking. I quit all forms of nicotine when I was 18 and held strong until I was 20. Then I got deployed to Baghdad, got stuck on a job with a high casulty rate and one day decided to have a ciggarette, I was like F it. Ever since then I have been hooked and gaining momentum. There have been 1 at most 2 month periods where I quit. My biggest success was using the nicotine patch, not the nicotine gum, hate that crap. It always seems that I go out and get plastered, don't have enough will power, have a cigarette, get the nicotine back in my system, struggle the next day, fight with my girlfriend, and end up going to the store to get a can to take the edge off.

I usually fall asleep at night with a chew in. I know it sounds gross but it is actually one of my favorite chews of the day. I love falling asleep watching TV with a big dip. I Wake up after two hours, throw it my spitter by the night stand, quick rinse and back to bed. I think it will be hard for me to sleep if I try quitting!

It is going to be very difficult for me to quit but hopefully this place will help. I also think I have a drinking problem. Might try to do a 180 and clean my act up or I will be dead in 10 years. Been thinking about joining AA. Went to a meeting but didn't really like the people there. I live in Downtown minneapolis and I can't really relate to the homeless people, gay/transvestiites, and the hard core crack-heads etc. Nothing against them. Just hard for me to relate, need someone more like myself.

Anyways, I haven't really declared a quit day but I was thinkign about tomorrow. I find this forum a little hard to navigate so I may ask some stupid noob questions.

Also - I thought I read on here before in the past that using a nicotine patch or gum is not recomended. Is this true. Are you supposed to go cold turkey?
Ok, first of all, you are definitely at the right place. We go cold turkey here. And yep, sucks like hell. This site is full of quitters who are doing it each day. Know this though: you are in for the fight of your life. It is the fight for your life. You are an addict and have to treat this like an addiction. Here is what you get at this site: support and accountability. You will need both to win this war. Just come to the battle wanting this change more than anything. Fight for your quit, protect it, treat it as the most important thing in your world. Be committed to your quit. We all have stress. Make up your mind that there is NO REASON to cave. No excuse whatsoever to ever use again. Set those guidelines up front.

Know this: you CAN do this, and yeah, it is worth it. I can honestly say it is the best thing I have ever done for me.
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Re: New To Forum
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 03:32:00 PM »
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Well - I am a 27 year old 1 can a day skoal straight chewer.  Sometimes a little bit more.  I Work at a stressful desk job, 60+ hours a week, in investment banking. I quit all forms of nicotine when I was 18 and held strong until I was 20.  Then I got deployed to Baghdad, got stuck on a job with a high casulty rate and one day decided to have a ciggarette, I was like F it.  Ever since then I have been hooked and gaining momentum.  There have been 1 at most 2 month periods where I quit.  My biggest success was using the nicotine patch, not the nicotine gum, hate that crap.  It always seems that I go out and get plastered, don't have enough will power, have a cigarette, get the nicotine back in my system, struggle the next day, fight with my girlfriend, and end up going to the store to get a can to take the edge off.

I usually fall asleep at night with a chew in.  I know it sounds gross but it is actually one of my favorite chews of the day.  I love falling asleep watching TV with a big dip. I  Wake up after two hours, throw it my spitter by the night stand, quick rinse and back to bed.  I think it will be hard for me to sleep if I try quitting!

It is going to be very difficult for me to quit but hopefully this place will help.  I also think I have a drinking problem.  Might try to do a 180 and clean my act up or I will be dead in 10 years.  Been thinking about joining AA.  Went to a meeting but didn't really like the people there.  I live in Downtown minneapolis and I can't really relate to the homeless people, gay/transvestiites, and the hard core crack-heads etc.  Nothing against them.  Just hard for me to relate, need someone more like myself.

Anyways, I haven't really declared a quit day but I was thinkign about tomorrow.  I find this forum a little hard to navigate so I may ask some stupid noob questions.

Also - I thought I read on here before in the past that using a nicotine patch or gum is not recomended.  Is this true.  Are you supposed to go cold turkey?
There is no better time to quit than right now. We all face stress of some kind, comes down to whether or not you WANT to quit. You need to make that decision for you.

Also, cold turkey is practiced here. You are going to have to get the nicotine out of your system so do it at the beginning.

make the call, we are ready to help you when you are ready to help yourself.
Yeah I definitely want and need to quit. Giving it hell starting tomorrow!
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Re: New To Forum
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2011, 03:20:00 PM »
Quote from: wamb0010
Well - I am a 27 year old 1 can a day skoal straight chewer. Sometimes a little bit more. I Work at a stressful desk job, 60+ hours a week, in investment banking. I quit all forms of nicotine when I was 18 and held strong until I was 20. Then I got deployed to Baghdad, got stuck on a job with a high casulty rate and one day decided to have a ciggarette, I was like F it. Ever since then I have been hooked and gaining momentum. There have been 1 at most 2 month periods where I quit. My biggest success was using the nicotine patch, not the nicotine gum, hate that crap. It always seems that I go out and get plastered, don't have enough will power, have a cigarette, get the nicotine back in my system, struggle the next day, fight with my girlfriend, and end up going to the store to get a can to take the edge off.

I usually fall asleep at night with a chew in. I know it sounds gross but it is actually one of my favorite chews of the day. I love falling asleep watching TV with a big dip. I Wake up after two hours, throw it my spitter by the night stand, quick rinse and back to bed. I think it will be hard for me to sleep if I try quitting!

It is going to be very difficult for me to quit but hopefully this place will help. I also think I have a drinking problem. Might try to do a 180 and clean my act up or I will be dead in 10 years. Been thinking about joining AA. Went to a meeting but didn't really like the people there. I live in Downtown minneapolis and I can't really relate to the homeless people, gay/transvestiites, and the hard core crack-heads etc. Nothing against them. Just hard for me to relate, need someone more like myself.

Anyways, I haven't really declared a quit day but I was thinkign about tomorrow. I find this forum a little hard to navigate so I may ask some stupid noob questions.

Also - I thought I read on here before in the past that using a nicotine patch or gum is not recomended. Is this true. Are you supposed to go cold turkey?
There is no better time to quit than right now. We all face stress of some kind, comes down to whether or not you WANT to quit. You need to make that decision for you.

Also, cold turkey is practiced here. You are going to have to get the nicotine out of your system so do it at the beginning.

make the call, we are ready to help you when you are ready to help yourself.
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« on: March 10, 2011, 02:58:00 PM »
Well - I am a 27 year old 1 can a day skoal straight chewer. Sometimes a little bit more. I Work at a stressful desk job, 60+ hours a week, in investment banking. I quit all forms of nicotine when I was 18 and held strong until I was 20. Then I got deployed to Baghdad, got stuck on a job with a high casulty rate and one day decided to have a ciggarette, I was like F it. Ever since then I have been hooked and gaining momentum. There have been 1 at most 2 month periods where I quit. My biggest success was using the nicotine patch, not the nicotine gum, hate that crap. It always seems that I go out and get plastered, don't have enough will power, have a cigarette, get the nicotine back in my system, struggle the next day, fight with my girlfriend, and end up going to the store to get a can to take the edge off.

I usually fall asleep at night with a chew in. I know it sounds gross but it is actually one of my favorite chews of the day. I love falling asleep watching TV with a big dip. I Wake up after two hours, throw it my spitter by the night stand, quick rinse and back to bed. I think it will be hard for me to sleep if I try quitting!

It is going to be very difficult for me to quit but hopefully this place will help. I also think I have a drinking problem. Might try to do a 180 and clean my act up or I will be dead in 10 years. Been thinking about joining AA. Went to a meeting but didn't really like the people there. I live in Downtown minneapolis and I can't really relate to the homeless people, gay/transvestiites, and the hard core crack-heads etc. Nothing against them. Just hard for me to relate, need someone more like myself.

Anyways, I haven't really declared a quit day but I was thinkign about tomorrow. I find this forum a little hard to navigate so I may ask some stupid noob questions.

Also - I thought I read on here before in the past that using a nicotine patch or gum is not recomended. Is this true. Are you supposed to go cold turkey?
D-Day = 3/11/2011

QUIT or DIE MOTHERFUCKER