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[Coach Steve]

I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.

I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.

To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.

and again wt57..fuck you

Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch

The man put his word down today that's he quit.

Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.

Agreed Coach.....

After reading the thread, yeah...he does owe WT an apology whether he's quit or not. The analogy that he was making was plain as day and wasn't meant to piss you off or insult you. Quitting nic makes you angry, Nic rage is very real. But you going off on someone who's sticking their hand out to help you in an evident way is not the way to start off your journey here.

He doesn't owe WT an apology. He's in the midst of some serious battles with his nic-bitch master. Just thinking about not getting the next fix is cause for a nic-rage. BigDave will need to do a lot more nic-raging. I've been there. Most all of us have been there.

BigDave, just quit today. Keep your word. Don't worry about an apology. Just keep reading, and drinking the koolaide. You worry about keeping your word.

In a few weeks, re-read this thread and see how you feel about WT (who is right, BTW). For now, just keep quitting every minute, hour, etc. Rage like hell on this forum. Call everyone an asshole, whatever. Just keep quit. I seriously doubt WT expects or gives a rats ass about an apology. He (like me) just wants you to understand better how the addict mind works, which is key to staying quit.

Agree he doesn't owe any apology. The point WT was making was a good one, but the analogy was a bad one. Comparing a guy who dips, whether in front of kids or not, to a convicted child molester who raped defenseless kids for at least 15 years is over the top. I'd be pissed too.

The same point could have been made 100 different ways without using Sandusky's name.

Soooooooo sorry guys. Didn't know people get a free pass after telling a quitter to fuck off while he admittedly has a juicy one tucked in his lip. My bad. You get to rage all you want once you quit, not while your sucking cat turds. For the record, that's where I draw the distinction. However, I suppose we'll just have to leave this one alone since he did finally quit. Not like he was going to apologize anyways......

Now which one of you peacemakers is going to volunteer to be Big Dave's mentor?

[Big Swede]

Amen, Zam.

BigDave needs to focus on BigDave right now and get through the grinder the same as we all did.

There were plenty of people I pissed off that first week - people I love and cherish, namely, my wife and kids. They knew it was time to give me space and let me slide on bad behavior. Once I came out on the other side, I have had plenty of time to apologize and express my appreciation for their unconditional support.

Christ, let BigDave get through the day and start over tomorrow.

[ktb1764]

I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.

I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.

To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.

and again wt57..fuck you

Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch

The man put his word down today that's he quit.

Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.

Agreed Coach.....

After reading the thread, yeah...he does owe WT an apology whether he's quit or not. The analogy that he was making was plain as day and wasn't meant to piss you off or insult you. Quitting nic makes you angry, Nic rage is very real. But you going off on someone who's sticking their hand out to help you in an evident way is not the way to start off your journey here.

He doesn't owe WT an apology. He's in the midst of some serious battles with his nic-bitch master. Just thinking about not getting the next fix is cause for a nic-rage. BigDave will need to do a lot more nic-raging. I've been there. Most all of us have been there.

BigDave, just quit today. Keep your word. Don't worry about an apology. Just keep reading, and drinking the koolaide. You worry about keeping your word.

In a few weeks, re-read this thread and see how you feel about WT (who is right, BTW). For now, just keep quitting every minute, hour, etc. Rage like hell on this forum. Call everyone an asshole, whatever. Just keep quit. I seriously doubt WT expects or gives a rats ass about an apology. He (like me) just wants you to understand better how the addict mind works, which is key to staying quit.

Agree he doesn't owe any apology. The point WT was making was a good one, but the analogy was a bad one. Comparing a guy who dips, whether in front of kids or not, to a convicted child molester who raped defenseless kids for at least 15 years is over the top. I'd be pissed too.

The same point could have been made 100 different ways without using Sandusky's name.

[zam]

I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.

I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.

To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.

and again wt57..fuck you

Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch

The man put his word down today that's he quit.

Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.

Agreed Coach.....

After reading the thread, yeah...he does owe WT an apology whether he's quit or not. The analogy that he was making was plain as day and wasn't meant to piss you off or insult you. Quitting nic makes you angry, Nic rage is very real. But you going off on someone who's sticking their hand out to help you in an evident way is not the way to start off your journey here.

He doesn't owe WT an apology. He's in the midst of some serious battles with his nic-bitch master. Just thinking about not getting the next fix is cause for a nic-rage. BigDave will need to do a lot more nic-raging. I've been there. Most all of us have been there.

BigDave, just quit today. Keep your word. Don't worry about an apology. Just keep reading, and drinking the koolaide. You worry about keeping your word.

In a few weeks, re-read this thread and see how you feel about WT (who is right, BTW). For now, just keep quitting every minute, hour, etc. Rage like hell on this forum. Call everyone an asshole, whatever. Just keep quit. I seriously doubt WT expects or gives a rats ass about an apology. He (like me) just wants you to understand better how the addict mind works, which is key to staying quit.

[Wedge]

I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.

I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.

To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.

and again wt57..fuck you

Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch

The man put his word down today that's he quit.

Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.

Agreed Coach.....

After reading the thread, yeah...he does owe WT an apology whether he's quit or not. The analogy that he was making was plain as day and wasn't meant to piss you off or insult you. Quitting nic makes you angry, Nic rage is very real. But you going off on someone who's sticking their hand out to help you in an evident way is not the way to start off your journey here.

[Grizzly25]

I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.

I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.

To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.

and again wt57..fuck you

Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch

The man put his word down today that's he quit.

Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.

Agreed Coach.....

[Coach Steve]

I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.

I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.

To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.

and again wt57..fuck you

Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch

The man put his word down today that's he quit.

Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.

[LDIDDY]

Thanks to all the guys that sent their support today. I didn't post today after roll but I thought about some guys on the forum today as the day went on. The hay's in the barn and no nicotine. We'll see how things go tomorrow. Again, thanks for the support.

Dave

Dave,

Congratulations on making the right choice. First three are the toughest, then every day after gets better and better. See you on November roll.

[30yraddict]

Thanks to all the guys that sent their support today. I didn't post today after roll but I thought about some guys on the forum today as the day went on. The hay's in the barn and no nicotine. We'll see how things go tomorrow. Again, thanks for the support.

Dave

Dave,

Good on you making through. Know thiis: The days are going to get MUCH easier real soon. The craves will stop being as intense, they won't last as long, and they will get further and further apart. Freedom is yours for the taking.

The first three days are sucky, but you never have to repeat them.

Be looking for your roll post today.

[Bigdave]

Thanks to all the guys that sent their support today. I didn't post today after roll but I thought about some guys on the forum today as the day went on. The hay's in the barn and no nicotine. We'll see how things go tomorrow. Again, thanks for the support.

Dave

[Souliman]

I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.

I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.

To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.

and again wt57..fuck you

Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch

The man put his word down today that's he quit.

[mikegooch]

I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.

I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.

To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.

and again wt57..fuck you

Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch

[jaginvest]

Awesome, now let see what you are made of! Promise us today, we will give you everything we have! Quit beside you Bro!

[eric71]

Great Decision. Make sure you spend time reading what we do here and how we do it.

Knowledge is power and there is more knowledge here than you could every hope to find somewhere else.

Welcome to the party
Greg

Congrats Dave.

Now follow the advice of ALL the vets, don't give a shit if you like WT or not. Dude is rock solid in his quit. Get involved and stay active in the site, it will only increase your odds of staying quit. Discount people all you want, just don't discount what they say if they've walked further on the trail than you. There are plenty of people here who would walk through hell to see one of their brothers through an intense cave moment, that's why our intensity is as high as it is. Your respect, just like every other newbies, will be earned over time, it is not granted when you pass through the door. Glad to see you posted roll, now let's get your quit kicked into high gear.

[Greg5280]

Great Decision. Make sure you spend time reading what we do here and how we do it.

Knowledge is power and there is more knowledge here than you could every hope to find somewhere else.

Welcome to the party
Greg