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Thumblewort

Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Lipizzaner
Quote from: Smeds
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: SapperWell, I know for a fact that my quit is strong. Not that I didn't think so before, but now it's been tested and remained intact. In fact, it's hard to say it was even tested, it was more like a really easy quiz that the teacher gives you the answers to before you take it and you studied for it anyway. It just wasn't tough, there was no desire, nothing that made me almost cave or anything of the sort. It was just as if I had never been a dipper before, and was just living my life like normal people.

On Friday, I went to play golf with folks from my company. We played 18 holes with a focus on the 19th. I was bombed, it was the drunkest I've been since college and god I can never do that again, I'm just not the kind of guy who goes out and gets shitfaced all the time. Regardless, I was surrounded by cigar smokers, cigarette smokers, and dippers all day long. I didn't crave or cave. I just drank my ass off. I remember toward the end of the night when I was really sloshed, a guy put in a pinch and I said, you should check out KTC, briefly mentioned it to him, he said he had been on it before, but then caved. I didn't get his name, I've never met him before, so I have no idea who he was, but that was my day. I'm not saying I'm cured or anything, all I'm saying is that being shit faced drunk surrounded by tobacco users didn't shake my quit one iota. It was, like I said, as if I had never dipped before, there was just simply no desire, no romanticizing the old days, nothing. It was something somebody else was doing.

Now, after how I felt on Saturday, I may need to go post in the alcohol thread, but my nic quit is solid.
nice job my friend. well done. always feels great to look at those times and be proud of yourself.
Damn Sapper, you have come a long way. Can you imagine surviving that 224 days ago? Its nice when we can just go thru a day (even an extreme one) and just not fret about it because we are quit. That Promise we make everyday....ITS EVERYTHING.
Sharing these victorys helps everyone's quit be stronger- thanks Sapper!
Nice job bro ... That story is exactly what "no chance at failure" and "I've burnt my boats" is all about. There was zero chance of a cave, because you removed the chance a long time ago. Nice ...
Rdad posed the question- Can you imagine surviving that 224 days ago?
Not sure what Sapper would say, but let me chime in.
No. trying to stay quit through that environment wouldn't have even come up, based on my old "quits".
That is, I wouldn't have even thought about staying quit, because I couldn't have done it. .
Various justifications-
1. Everyone else is doing it.
2. I'm drinking, chew is so good when I'm when drinking.
3. I won't chew, I'll just smoke a cigar. My buddies are smoking a cigar.
4. Fuck it, I already smoked a cigar, might as well have a chew.
5. Fuck it, I am quitting this shit tomorrow, but today I'll enjoy myself.

Without this place, I would have been so defenseless I wouldn't have even realized how defenseless I was.
Now, teamed up with dudes like Sapper, I can confidently say that in that same situation I once again don't need to even think about quitting, because I am QUIT.
Completely above that shit.
Fucking nicotine junkies are no longer a threat to my quit, they are an object of pity or scorn. Fuck em.
Nice work Sap.
This is a great thread. From the first post, to the last... this is what this site is all about. Well done, Sapper.
Good post Sapper, way to be strong.
Some of my fondest and clearest memories are peeing in places that aren't bathrooms.

worktowin

Quote from: Lipizzaner
Quote from: Smeds
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: SapperWell, I know for a fact that my quit is strong. Not that I didn't think so before, but now it's been tested and remained intact. In fact, it's hard to say it was even tested, it was more like a really easy quiz that the teacher gives you the answers to before you take it and you studied for it anyway. It just wasn't tough, there was no desire, nothing that made me almost cave or anything of the sort. It was just as if I had never been a dipper before, and was just living my life like normal people.

On Friday, I went to play golf with folks from my company. We played 18 holes with a focus on the 19th. I was bombed, it was the drunkest I've been since college and god I can never do that again, I'm just not the kind of guy who goes out and gets shitfaced all the time. Regardless, I was surrounded by cigar smokers, cigarette smokers, and dippers all day long. I didn't crave or cave. I just drank my ass off. I remember toward the end of the night when I was really sloshed, a guy put in a pinch and I said, you should check out KTC, briefly mentioned it to him, he said he had been on it before, but then caved. I didn't get his name, I've never met him before, so I have no idea who he was, but that was my day. I'm not saying I'm cured or anything, all I'm saying is that being shit faced drunk surrounded by tobacco users didn't shake my quit one iota. It was, like I said, as if I had never dipped before, there was just simply no desire, no romanticizing the old days, nothing. It was something somebody else was doing.

Now, after how I felt on Saturday, I may need to go post in the alcohol thread, but my nic quit is solid.
nice job my friend. well done. always feels great to look at those times and be proud of yourself.
Damn Sapper, you have come a long way. Can you imagine surviving that 224 days ago? Its nice when we can just go thru a day (even an extreme one) and just not fret about it because we are quit. That Promise we make everyday....ITS EVERYTHING.
Sharing these victorys helps everyone's quit be stronger- thanks Sapper!
Nice job bro ... That story is exactly what "no chance at failure" and "I've burnt my boats" is all about. There was zero chance of a cave, because you removed the chance a long time ago. Nice ...
Rdad posed the question- Can you imagine surviving that 224 days ago?
Not sure what Sapper would say, but let me chime in.
No. trying to stay quit through that environment wouldn't have even come up, based on my old "quits".
That is, I wouldn't have even thought about staying quit, because I couldn't have done it. .
Various justifications-
1. Everyone else is doing it.
2. I'm drinking, chew is so good when I'm when drinking.
3. I won't chew, I'll just smoke a cigar. My buddies are smoking a cigar.
4. Fuck it, I already smoked a cigar, might as well have a chew.
5. Fuck it, I am quitting this shit tomorrow, but today I'll enjoy myself.

Without this place, I would have been so defenseless I wouldn't have even realized how defenseless I was.
Now, teamed up with dudes like Sapper, I can confidently say that in that same situation I once again don't need to even think about quitting, because I am QUIT.
Completely above that shit.
Fucking nicotine junkies are no longer a threat to my quit, they are an object of pity or scorn. Fuck em.
Nice work Sap.
This is a great thread. From the first post, to the last... this is what this site is all about. Well done, Sapper.

Lipizzaner

Quote from: Smeds
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: SapperWell, I know for a fact that my quit is strong. Not that I didn't think so before, but now it's been tested and remained intact. In fact, it's hard to say it was even tested, it was more like a really easy quiz that the teacher gives you the answers to before you take it and you studied for it anyway. It just wasn't tough, there was no desire, nothing that made me almost cave or anything of the sort. It was just as if I had never been a dipper before, and was just living my life like normal people.

On Friday, I went to play golf with folks from my company. We played 18 holes with a focus on the 19th. I was bombed, it was the drunkest I've been since college and god I can never do that again, I'm just not the kind of guy who goes out and gets shitfaced all the time. Regardless, I was surrounded by cigar smokers, cigarette smokers, and dippers all day long. I didn't crave or cave. I just drank my ass off. I remember toward the end of the night when I was really sloshed, a guy put in a pinch and I said, you should check out KTC, briefly mentioned it to him, he said he had been on it before, but then caved. I didn't get his name, I've never met him before, so I have no idea who he was, but that was my day. I'm not saying I'm cured or anything, all I'm saying is that being shit faced drunk surrounded by tobacco users didn't shake my quit one iota. It was, like I said, as if I had never dipped before, there was just simply no desire, no romanticizing the old days, nothing. It was something somebody else was doing.

Now, after how I felt on Saturday, I may need to go post in the alcohol thread, but my nic quit is solid.
nice job my friend. well done. always feels great to look at those times and be proud of yourself.
Damn Sapper, you have come a long way. Can you imagine surviving that 224 days ago? Its nice when we can just go thru a day (even an extreme one) and just not fret about it because we are quit. That Promise we make everyday....ITS EVERYTHING.
Sharing these victorys helps everyone's quit be stronger- thanks Sapper!
Nice job bro ... That story is exactly what "no chance at failure" and "I've burnt my boats" is all about. There was zero chance of a cave, because you removed the chance a long time ago. Nice ...
Rdad posed the question- Can you imagine surviving that 224 days ago?
Not sure what Sapper would say, but let me chime in.
No. trying to stay quit through that environment wouldn't have even come up, based on my old "quits".
That is, I wouldn't have even thought about staying quit, because I couldn't have done it. .
Various justifications-
1. Everyone else is doing it.
2. I'm drinking, chew is so good when I'm when drinking.
3. I won't chew, I'll just smoke a cigar. My buddies are smoking a cigar.
4. Fuck it, I already smoked a cigar, might as well have a chew.
5. Fuck it, I am quitting this shit tomorrow, but today I'll enjoy myself.

Without this place, I would have been so defenseless I wouldn't have even realized how defenseless I was.
Now, teamed up with dudes like Sapper, I can confidently say that in that same situation I once again don't need to even think about quitting, because I am QUIT.
Completely above that shit.
Fucking nicotine junkies are no longer a threat to my quit, they are an object of pity or scorn. Fuck em.
Nice work Sap.

Smeds

Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: SapperWell, I know for a fact that my quit is strong. Not that I didn't think so before, but now it's been tested and remained intact. In fact, it's hard to say it was even tested, it was more like a really easy quiz that the teacher gives you the answers to before you take it and you studied for it anyway. It just wasn't tough, there was no desire, nothing that made me almost cave or anything of the sort. It was just as if I had never been a dipper before, and was just living my life like normal people.

On Friday, I went to play golf with folks from my company. We played 18 holes with a focus on the 19th. I was bombed, it was the drunkest I've been since college and god I can never do that again, I'm just not the kind of guy who goes out and gets shitfaced all the time. Regardless, I was surrounded by cigar smokers, cigarette smokers, and dippers all day long. I didn't crave or cave. I just drank my ass off. I remember toward the end of the night when I was really sloshed, a guy put in a pinch and I said, you should check out KTC, briefly mentioned it to him, he said he had been on it before, but then caved. I didn't get his name, I've never met him before, so I have no idea who he was, but that was my day. I'm not saying I'm cured or anything, all I'm saying is that being shit faced drunk surrounded by tobacco users didn't shake my quit one iota. It was, like I said, as if I had never dipped before, there was just simply no desire, no romanticizing the old days, nothing. It was something somebody else was doing.

Now, after how I felt on Saturday, I may need to go post in the alcohol thread, but my nic quit is solid.
nice job my friend. well done. always feels great to look at those times and be proud of yourself.
Damn Sapper, you have come a long way. Can you imagine surviving that 224 days ago? Its nice when we can just go thru a day (even an extreme one) and just not fret about it because we are quit. That Promise we make everyday....ITS EVERYTHING.
Sharing these victorys helps everyone's quit be stronger- thanks Sapper!
Nice job bro ... That story is exactly what "no chance at failure" and "I've burnt my boats" is all about. There was zero chance of a cave, because you removed the chance a long time ago. Nice ...
My personality is who I am, my attitude depends on who you are.

brettlees

Quote from: rdad
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: SapperWell, I know for a fact that my quit is strong. Not that I didn't think so before, but now it's been tested and remained intact. In fact, it's hard to say it was even tested, it was more like a really easy quiz that the teacher gives you the answers to before you take it and you studied for it anyway. It just wasn't tough, there was no desire, nothing that made me almost cave or anything of the sort. It was just as if I had never been a dipper before, and was just living my life like normal people.

On Friday, I went to play golf with folks from my company. We played 18 holes with a focus on the 19th. I was bombed, it was the drunkest I've been since college and god I can never do that again, I'm just not the kind of guy who goes out and gets shitfaced all the time. Regardless, I was surrounded by cigar smokers, cigarette smokers, and dippers all day long. I didn't crave or cave. I just drank my ass off. I remember toward the end of the night when I was really sloshed, a guy put in a pinch and I said, you should check out KTC, briefly mentioned it to him, he said he had been on it before, but then caved. I didn't get his name, I've never met him before, so I have no idea who he was, but that was my day. I'm not saying I'm cured or anything, all I'm saying is that being shit faced drunk surrounded by tobacco users didn't shake my quit one iota. It was, like I said, as if I had never dipped before, there was just simply no desire, no romanticizing the old days, nothing. It was something somebody else was doing.

Now, after how I felt on Saturday, I may need to go post in the alcohol thread, but my nic quit is solid.
nice job my friend. well done. always feels great to look at those times and be proud of yourself.
Damn Sapper, you have come a long way. Can you imagine surviving that 224 days ago? Its nice when we can just go thru a day (even an extreme one) and just not fret about it because we are quit. That Promise we make everyday....ITS EVERYTHING.
Sharing these victorys helps everyone's quit be stronger- thanks Sapper!
This info helped me early on, and still does today: https://whyquit.com/whyquit/linksaaddiction.html

Quitters I’ve met so far: Ihatecope, >Pinched<, T-Cell, grizzlyhasclaws, Canvasback, BaseballPlayer, Cbird65, ERDVM, BradleyGuy, Ted, Zeno, AppleJack, Bronc, Knockout, MookieBlaylock, Rdad, 2mch2lv4, MN_Ben, Natro, Lippizaner, Amquash, ChristopherJ, GDubya, SRohde  -- always eager to meet more!

rdad

Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: SapperWell, I know for a fact that my quit is strong. Not that I didn't think so before, but now it's been tested and remained intact. In fact, it's hard to say it was even tested, it was more like a really easy quiz that the teacher gives you the answers to before you take it and you studied for it anyway. It just wasn't tough, there was no desire, nothing that made me almost cave or anything of the sort. It was just as if I had never been a dipper before, and was just living my life like normal people.

On Friday, I went to play golf with folks from my company. We played 18 holes with a focus on the 19th. I was bombed, it was the drunkest I've been since college and god I can never do that again, I'm just not the kind of guy who goes out and gets shitfaced all the time. Regardless, I was surrounded by cigar smokers, cigarette smokers, and dippers all day long. I didn't crave or cave. I just drank my ass off. I remember toward the end of the night when I was really sloshed, a guy put in a pinch and I said, you should check out KTC, briefly mentioned it to him, he said he had been on it before, but then caved. I didn't get his name, I've never met him before, so I have no idea who he was, but that was my day. I'm not saying I'm cured or anything, all I'm saying is that being shit faced drunk surrounded by tobacco users didn't shake my quit one iota. It was, like I said, as if I had never dipped before, there was just simply no desire, no romanticizing the old days, nothing. It was something somebody else was doing.

Now, after how I felt on Saturday, I may need to go post in the alcohol thread, but my nic quit is solid.
nice job my friend. well done. always feels great to look at those times and be proud of yourself.
Damn Sapper, you have come a long way. Can you imagine surviving that 224 days ago? Its nice when we can just go thru a day (even an extreme one) and just not fret about it because we are quit. That Promise we make everyday....ITS EVERYTHING.

SirDerek

Quote from: SapperWell, I know for a fact that my quit is strong. Not that I didn't think so before, but now it's been tested and remained intact. In fact, it's hard to say it was even tested, it was more like a really easy quiz that the teacher gives you the answers to before you take it and you studied for it anyway. It just wasn't tough, there was no desire, nothing that made me almost cave or anything of the sort. It was just as if I had never been a dipper before, and was just living my life like normal people.

On Friday, I went to play golf with folks from my company. We played 18 holes with a focus on the 19th. I was bombed, it was the drunkest I've been since college and god I can never do that again, I'm just not the kind of guy who goes out and gets shitfaced all the time. Regardless, I was surrounded by cigar smokers, cigarette smokers, and dippers all day long. I didn't crave or cave. I just drank my ass off. I remember toward the end of the night when I was really sloshed, a guy put in a pinch and I said, you should check out KTC, briefly mentioned it to him, he said he had been on it before, but then caved. I didn't get his name, I've never met him before, so I have no idea who he was, but that was my day. I'm not saying I'm cured or anything, all I'm saying is that being shit faced drunk surrounded by tobacco users didn't shake my quit one iota. It was, like I said, as if I had never dipped before, there was just simply no desire, no romanticizing the old days, nothing. It was something somebody else was doing.

Now, after how I felt on Saturday, I may need to go post in the alcohol thread, but my nic quit is solid.
nice job my friend. well done. always feels great to look at those times and be proud of yourself.

Sap

Well, I know for a fact that my quit is strong. Not that I didn't think so before, but now it's been tested and remained intact. In fact, it's hard to say it was even tested, it was more like a really easy quiz that the teacher gives you the answers to before you take it and you studied for it anyway. It just wasn't tough, there was no desire, nothing that made me almost cave or anything of the sort. It was just as if I had never been a dipper before, and was just living my life like normal people.

On Friday, I went to play golf with folks from my company. We played 18 holes with a focus on the 19th. I was bombed, it was the drunkest I've been since college and god I can never do that again, I'm just not the kind of guy who goes out and gets shitfaced all the time. Regardless, I was surrounded by cigar smokers, cigarette smokers, and dippers all day long. I didn't crave or cave. I just drank my ass off. I remember toward the end of the night when I was really sloshed, a guy put in a pinch and I said, you should check out KTC, briefly mentioned it to him, he said he had been on it before, but then caved. I didn't get his name, I've never met him before, so I have no idea who he was, but that was my day. I'm not saying I'm cured or anything, all I'm saying is that being shit faced drunk surrounded by tobacco users didn't shake my quit one iota. It was, like I said, as if I had never dipped before, there was just simply no desire, no romanticizing the old days, nothing. It was something somebody else was doing.

Now, after how I felt on Saturday, I may need to go post in the alcohol thread, but my nic quit is solid.
If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic? - Sam Harris

What the hell is a meatless, cheeseless pizza? Isn't that a breadstick? Doc Chewfree

SirDerek

Quote from: Ginet
Quote from: Doc
Quote from: GDubya
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: Sapper
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: basshaug
Quote from: Krusty
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: schaef418Congratulations on the deuce!! That is awesome. 2nd floor!!
shocker
Nice 2 hundo. Congrats.
'oh yeah' two flos enjoy your day Mr Sapper
Congrats on 2-hundo, Sapster PI...!
congrats sapper. thanks for teaching me the basics to gordonian physics.
Congrats on 200 days Sapper!
Nice 2 bills!
Hey, thanks all! I'll be sticking around till 300... at least.
I'm late but still want to say congrats Sapper- and glad youre in for the next milestone.
I'm late also. But definitely wanted to congratulate you buddy. Damn fine job of Quitting. Just keeps getting better from here.
Better late then never, congrats Badassius quitericus
200 LF
Nice job Sapper
Well done my friend, as this sets up for a great example with your family, with scouts and with all of those who come in touch with you.

great job

Ginet

Quote from: Doc
Quote from: GDubya
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: Sapper
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: basshaug
Quote from: Krusty
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: schaef418Congratulations on the deuce!! That is awesome. 2nd floor!!
shocker
Nice 2 hundo. Congrats.
'oh yeah' two flos enjoy your day Mr Sapper
Congrats on 2-hundo, Sapster PI...!
congrats sapper. thanks for teaching me the basics to gordonian physics.
Congrats on 200 days Sapper!
Nice 2 bills!
Hey, thanks all! I'll be sticking around till 300... at least.
I'm late but still want to say congrats Sapper- and glad youre in for the next milestone.
I'm late also. But definitely wanted to congratulate you buddy. Damn fine job of Quitting. Just keeps getting better from here.
Better late then never, congrats Badassius quitericus
200 LF
Nice job Sapper
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person who is doing it. ~ Chinese Proverb
Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply. ~ Stephen R. Covey

QD 12/29/13
April 2014 Resolute

Doc Chewfree

Quote from: GDubya
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: Sapper
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: basshaug
Quote from: Krusty
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: schaef418Congratulations on the deuce!! That is awesome. 2nd floor!!
shocker
Nice 2 hundo. Congrats.
'oh yeah' two flos enjoy your day Mr Sapper
Congrats on 2-hundo, Sapster PI...!
congrats sapper. thanks for teaching me the basics to gordonian physics.
Congrats on 200 days Sapper!
Nice 2 bills!
Hey, thanks all! I'll be sticking around till 300... at least.
I'm late but still want to say congrats Sapper- and glad youre in for the next milestone.
I'm late also. But definitely wanted to congratulate you buddy. Damn fine job of Quitting. Just keeps getting better from here.
Better late then never, congrats Badassius quitericus
Brave men are honored, rich men are envied, powerful men are feared, but only a man with character is trusted
Quit on Feb. 6, 2014

Gdubya

Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: Sapper
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: basshaug
Quote from: Krusty
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: schaef418Congratulations on the deuce!! That is awesome. 2nd floor!!
shocker
Nice 2 hundo. Congrats.
'oh yeah' two flos enjoy your day Mr Sapper
Congrats on 2-hundo, Sapster PI...!
congrats sapper. thanks for teaching me the basics to gordonian physics.
Congrats on 200 days Sapper!
Nice 2 bills!
Hey, thanks all! I'll be sticking around till 300... at least.
I'm late but still want to say congrats Sapper- and glad youre in for the next milestone.
I'm late also. But definitely wanted to congratulate you buddy. Damn fine job of Quitting. Just keeps getting better from here.

brettlees

Quote from: Sapper
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: basshaug
Quote from: Krusty
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: schaef418Congratulations on the deuce!! That is awesome. 2nd floor!!
shocker
Nice 2 hundo. Congrats.
'oh yeah' two flos enjoy your day Mr Sapper
Congrats on 2-hundo, Sapster PI...!
congrats sapper. thanks for teaching me the basics to gordonian physics.
Congrats on 200 days Sapper!
Nice 2 bills!
Hey, thanks all! I'll be sticking around till 300... at least.
I'm late but still want to say congrats Sapper- and glad youre in for the next milestone.
This info helped me early on, and still does today: https://whyquit.com/whyquit/linksaaddiction.html

Quitters I’ve met so far: Ihatecope, >Pinched<, T-Cell, grizzlyhasclaws, Canvasback, BaseballPlayer, Cbird65, ERDVM, BradleyGuy, Ted, Zeno, AppleJack, Bronc, Knockout, MookieBlaylock, Rdad, 2mch2lv4, MN_Ben, Natro, Lippizaner, Amquash, ChristopherJ, GDubya, SRohde  -- always eager to meet more!

Sap

Quote from: derk40
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: basshaug
Quote from: Krusty
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: schaef418Congratulations on the deuce!! That is awesome. 2nd floor!!
shocker
Nice 2 hundo. Congrats.
'oh yeah' two flos enjoy your day Mr Sapper
Congrats on 2-hundo, Sapster PI...!
congrats sapper. thanks for teaching me the basics to gordonian physics.
Congrats on 200 days Sapper!
Nice 2 bills!
Hey, thanks all! I'll be sticking around till 300... at least.
If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic? - Sam Harris

What the hell is a meatless, cheeseless pizza? Isn't that a breadstick? Doc Chewfree

Derk40

Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: basshaug
Quote from: Krusty
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: schaef418Congratulations on the deuce!! That is awesome. 2nd floor!!
shocker
Nice 2 hundo. Congrats.
'oh yeah' two flos enjoy your day Mr Sapper
Congrats on 2-hundo, Sapster PI...!
congrats sapper. thanks for teaching me the basics to gordonian physics.
Congrats on 200 days Sapper!
Nice 2 bills!
Quit date: 6/23/2013
HOF Date: 9/30/2013

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