Quitting today - Intro

[starr_78]

Way to go Lighty! With a plan no nic bitch can touch your quit. This is how you are supposed to work the plan.

[TrueToMyself]

Just wanted to document a good win against the bitch yesterday. On day 30 my wife and kids went out of town for a few days. All alone and ready to watch the US National Team in the World Cup. Nic bitch was whispering in my ear all day. "Just one tin while the fam is away - you go right back to quitting afterwards..." We all know the bullshit. Anyway - I had some buddies on here PM/text me during the day. I hunkered down with some seeds/smokey mountain and everything was fine. Just felt good that I had a plan and executed it and it was no big deal.

Also want to remind myself that during a stoppage about 7 years ago I watched the Masters dip free while the girlfriend was out of town and was very proud of myself. We know how that turned out....So in the words of Winston Wolf in Pulp Fiction - "Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet"

Just keep posting +1's.

You hit all the highlights of a great post. Good personal reflection with a little bad ass pop culture reference thrown in. I went to a bar to watch the USMNT yesterday and even though I am quit a year I had the voice tell me I should buy a tin on the way home. So keep fighting the "voice" it will be with you for a while. Quitting is hard, but you are succeeeding!

Lighty, you must have smiled really big this morning when you woke up without any nic in your system. That's how I feel after a challenge like you had. It feels like winning an award, doesn't it?

Stay strong this week while they're away. We're here for you.

[Dagranger]

Just wanted to document a good win against the bitch yesterday. On day 30 my wife and kids went out of town for a few days. All alone and ready to watch the US National Team in the World Cup. Nic bitch was whispering in my ear all day. "Just one tin while the fam is away - you go right back to quitting afterwards..." We all know the bullshit. Anyway - I had some buddies on here PM/text me during the day. I hunkered down with some seeds/smokey mountain and everything was fine. Just felt good that I had a plan and executed it and it was no big deal.

Also want to remind myself that during a stoppage about 7 years ago I watched the Masters dip free while the girlfriend was out of town and was very proud of myself. We know how that turned out....So in the words of Winston Wolf in Pulp Fiction - "Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet"

Just keep posting +1's.

You hit all the highlights of a great post. Good personal reflection with a little bad ass pop culture reference thrown in. I went to a bar to watch the USMNT yesterday and even though I am quit a year I had the voice tell me I should buy a tin on the way home. So keep fighting the "voice" it will be with you for a while. Quitting is hard, but you are succeeeding!

[lighty7]

Just wanted to document a good win against the bitch yesterday. On day 30 my wife and kids went out of town for a few days. All alone and ready to watch the US National Team in the World Cup. Nic bitch was whispering in my ear all day. "Just one tin while the fam is away - you go right back to quitting afterwards..." We all know the bullshit. Anyway - I had some buddies on here PM/text me during the day. I hunkered down with some seeds/smokey mountain and everything was fine. Just felt good that I had a plan and executed it and it was no big deal.

Also want to remind myself that during a stoppage about 7 years ago I watched the Masters dip free while the girlfriend was out of town and was very proud of myself. We know how that turned out....So in the words of Winston Wolf in Pulp Fiction - "Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet"

Just keep posting +1's.

[Thumblewort]

Lighty7, nic rage is part of the healing process, one of the vets has a great post regarding a nic rage post as a wonderful sign. Read my intro and see where I went off on Traumamagnet, totally uncalled for, but I was looking for any target to rage on that day, and as many quitters here say, rage on us, we have been there, and can take it.

Trauma, if I haven't officially apologized, I am now.

[mule]

I had my first real episode of nicotine rage last night. My wife got great news of a teaching transfer and my addict brain told me that because I had been dealing with all the crap before the good news that I deserved a celebratory dip. I knew it was a lie and pushed it back, but the next thing I knew the tiniest thing "set" me off and I was soooo pissed at my wife last night. For pure irony I was pissed my wife got our 4 year old Wendy's. How could anyone put crap like that in their bodies! It's disgusting.

Anyway - I took tons of deep breaths and basically just had to go to bed I was so mad. Not sure I'm looking for advice but wanted to get this posted so I can go back and see how stupid I was (am). I'm sure others have dealt with the nicotine rage - it just waited 12 days to unleash itself on me.

unfortunately.....it happens.

Send her a text admitting your assholedness.....
Thank her for putting up and loving you in spite of your flaws
Thank her for working thru your healing process and assure her that while you are doing this for yourself first.....she and your kids will benefit as you emerge from the valley.

Focus your anger on a justifiable target.....

For Ole Mule.....I made big tobacco my target. I realized they are no better than the corner pusher as they camouflage death in a cool package.....Dipping is manly....dipping is better than smoking.....it won't kill you.....it won't hurt you.....it relaxes you.....and it goes on and on.....

and they fed us all the lies for......money.

Yes, we were ready to believe....we took that first dip/chew......but they made it desirable.....with malicious forethought, premeditation and intent.

These sumbitches absolutely know what they are doing and are very good at what they do.

I made it my mission to first of all, never give them another single penny of money earned by me. To no longer commit "slow suicide" by using their product.

I added to that mission the intent to take as many of their customers and money out of their pocket that I can. Every single successful quit due to this site is a victory against their antics.

Each victory makes me smile just a little bit......

I posted roll this morning first because I am an addict.....and I will never be "cured or fixed".

A close second reason for my roll call promise is my little part is this war we are all fighting......

and by the way......I ain't over it yet.....

I'm still pissed.....and will continue wage my little war.

It's your own doing and responsibility......take a deep breath....walk away.....bite your tongue.....scream, yell but try not to take it out on the fam.....

Unfortunately.....it's gonna happen from time to time.....when it does.....

fix it....then direct your anger in a beneficial direction.

[lighty7]

I had my first real episode of nicotine rage last night. My wife got great news of a teaching transfer and my addict brain told me that because I had been dealing with all the crap before the good news that I deserved a celebratory dip. I knew it was a lie and pushed it back, but the next thing I knew the tiniest thing "set" me off and I was soooo pissed at my wife last night. For pure irony I was pissed my wife got our 4 year old Wendy's. How could anyone put crap like that in their bodies! It's disgusting.

Anyway - I took tons of deep breaths and basically just had to go to bed I was so mad. Not sure I'm looking for advice but wanted to get this posted so I can go back and see how stupid I was (am). I'm sure others have dealt with the nicotine rage - it just waited 12 days to unleash itself on me.

[TrueToMyself]

Posted this is my Quit group thread and it prob should've been here - any thoughts are much appreciated:

Wanted to get everyone's opinion on this. I am on day 7 and yesterday had major cravings. I used some of the fake stuff (Smoikey Mtn, which is actually pretty good). Anyway, it seems I have really tricked my brain into thinking it's getting its fix. I know this should be a positive, but all day today I looked forward to dipping the fake stuff at around the same times I would normally have dipped on a Saturday. Is that normal? I used no fake stuff for the 1st 5 days b/c I didn't have any. I just don't want my addict brain to start the whole planning my day around dipping, even if it is fake stuff.

Any thoughts?

Hey dude- get rid of the smokey mountain, hooch is the shit.

I was feeling the same way lighty, almost like im getting more cravings since I picked up the fake stuff, but whatever, its corn silk and spices.

Ive had almost all of the kinds they have reviewed on KTC, and I have to say Hooch is my favorite. Spitfire,then the whiskey flavor. I got the rough cut which is closer to long cut. smokey mtn isnt bad, and these two are the best brands in my opinion, but the flavors arent as good (I gave up straight, never much for the minty flavors)

Good question - I've been afraid to start on the fake stuff or even seeds because I'm afraid they'll just be a gateway for me and increase my chances of relapsing.

So could a lot of things.

Look, like has been said - the oral habit of chewing (or smoking) is a bitch, but it is not the main concern right now. The addiction to nicotine is the problem - do whatever you have to do to keep that shit out of your system. Fake, seeds, candy, gum, suckers - anything. I shit you not I think I went through 1lb or more of fireballs every couple days, plus enough seeds to cover nebraska, jolly ranchers, life savers, gum, and a couple tins of fake.

The desire to use substitutes will go away over time.

J2b says is right. Focus on dealing to get a hold of dealing with the mind games from the poison.

then when the time comes, you will have the ability to leave the fake just disappear (as there is no chemical in it to hold you to it).

keep the quit strong.

Let me know when you see a guy with his face peeled back and his jaw being removed, due to sunflower seeds, gum, fireballs, worthers originals, beef jerky, etc... Because if that's the case I'm fucked.

Personally speaking for me only. I chewed gum like a mother fucker. Even slept with it in. I ordered a bunch of fakes online and didn't get into them. I just felt like I was spitting into a bottle for no reason. Plus I didn't like the consistency of it, just didn't jibe for me. I think it was NICOTINE that I was missing.

Also, for about a year I constantly bit the corner of my bottom lip. Must have looked like Molly Ringwald for that year.

Bottom line...whatever it takes to keep the shit out yo lip.

Quit on...

Diesel, bro, I'm sure you still look like Molly Ringwald.

I do look pretty in pink.

Great perspective, guys, and nice ideas for substitutes. I'm going out tomorrow to buy an arsenal of all that stuff (jerkey, candy, etc...). My desk and car will be loaded.

Diesel, that's funny about chewing on the inside of your face - I've been doing that at least half of the day. You can have the Rigwald thing, tho. That's all yours. Tee he he.

[Diesel2112]

Posted this is my Quit group thread and it prob should've been here - any thoughts are much appreciated:

Wanted to get everyone's opinion on this. I am on day 7 and yesterday had major cravings. I used some of the fake stuff (Smoikey Mtn, which is actually pretty good). Anyway, it seems I have really tricked my brain into thinking it's getting its fix. I know this should be a positive, but all day today I looked forward to dipping the fake stuff at around the same times I would normally have dipped on a Saturday. Is that normal? I used no fake stuff for the 1st 5 days b/c I didn't have any. I just don't want my addict brain to start the whole planning my day around dipping, even if it is fake stuff.

Any thoughts?

Hey dude- get rid of the smokey mountain, hooch is the shit.

I was feeling the same way lighty, almost like im getting more cravings since I picked up the fake stuff, but whatever, its corn silk and spices.

Ive had almost all of the kinds they have reviewed on KTC, and I have to say Hooch is my favorite. Spitfire,then the whiskey flavor. I got the rough cut which is closer to long cut. smokey mtn isnt bad, and these two are the best brands in my opinion, but the flavors arent as good (I gave up straight, never much for the minty flavors)

Good question - I've been afraid to start on the fake stuff or even seeds because I'm afraid they'll just be a gateway for me and increase my chances of relapsing.

So could a lot of things.

Look, like has been said - the oral habit of chewing (or smoking) is a bitch, but it is not the main concern right now. The addiction to nicotine is the problem - do whatever you have to do to keep that shit out of your system. Fake, seeds, candy, gum, suckers - anything. I shit you not I think I went through 1lb or more of fireballs every couple days, plus enough seeds to cover nebraska, jolly ranchers, life savers, gum, and a couple tins of fake.

The desire to use substitutes will go away over time.

J2b says is right. Focus on dealing to get a hold of dealing with the mind games from the poison.

then when the time comes, you will have the ability to leave the fake just disappear (as there is no chemical in it to hold you to it).

keep the quit strong.

Let me know when you see a guy with his face peeled back and his jaw being removed, due to sunflower seeds, gum, fireballs, worthers originals, beef jerky, etc... Because if that's the case I'm fucked.

Personally speaking for me only. I chewed gum like a mother fucker. Even slept with it in. I ordered a bunch of fakes online and didn't get into them. I just felt like I was spitting into a bottle for no reason. Plus I didn't like the consistency of it, just didn't jibe for me. I think it was NICOTINE that I was missing.

Also, for about a year I constantly bit the corner of my bottom lip. Must have looked like Molly Ringwald for that year.

Bottom line...whatever it takes to keep the shit out yo lip.

Quit on...

Diesel, bro, I'm sure you still look like Molly Ringwald.

I do look pretty in pink.

[Doc Chewfree]

Posted this is my Quit group thread and it prob should've been here - any thoughts are much appreciated:

Wanted to get everyone's opinion on this. I am on day 7 and yesterday had major cravings. I used some of the fake stuff (Smokey Mtn, which is actually pretty good). Anyway, it seems I have really tricked my brain into thinking it's getting its fix. I know this should be a positive, but all day today I looked forward to dipping the fake stuff at around the same times I would normally have dipped on a Saturday. Is that normal? I used no fake stuff for the 1st 5 days b/c I didn't have any. I just don't want my addict brain to start the whole planning my day around dipping, even if it is fake stuff.

Any thoughts?

Hey dude- get rid of the smokey mountain, hooch is the shit.

I was feeling the same way lighty, almost like im getting more cravings since I picked up the fake stuff, but whatever, its corn silk and spices.

Ive had almost all of the kinds they have reviewed on KTC, and I have to say Hooch is my favorite. Spitfire,then the whiskey flavor. I got the rough cut which is closer to long cut. smokey mtn isnt bad, and these two are the best brands in my opinion, but the flavors arent as good (I gave up straight, never much for the minty flavors)

Good question - I've been afraid to start on the fake stuff or even seeds because I'm afraid they'll just be a gateway for me and increase my chances of relapsing.

So could a lot of things.

Look, like has been said - the oral habit of chewing (or smoking) is a bitch, but it is not the main concern right now. The addiction to nicotine is the problem - do whatever you have to do to keep that shit out of your system. Fake, seeds, candy, gum, suckers - anything. I shit you not I think I went through 1lb or more of fireballs every couple days, plus enough seeds to cover nebraska, jolly ranchers, life savers, gum, and a couple tins of fake.

The desire to use substitutes will go away over time.

J2b says is right. Focus on dealing to get a hold of dealing with the mind games from the poison.

then when the time comes, you will have the ability to leave the fake just disappear (as there is no chemical in it to hold you to it).

keep the quit strong.

Let me know when you see a guy with his face peeled back and his jaw being removed, due to sunflower seeds, gum, fireballs, worthers originals, beef jerky, etc... Because if that's the case I'm fucked.

Personally speaking for me only. I chewed gum like a mother fucker. Even slept with it in. I ordered a bunch of fakes online and didn't get into them. I just felt like I was spitting into a bottle for no reason. Plus I didn't like the consistency of it, just didn't jibe for me. I think it was NICOTINE that I was missing.

Also, for about a year I constantly bit the corner of my bottom lip. Must have looked like Molly Ringwald for that year.

Bottom line...whatever it takes to keep the shit out yo lip.

Quit on...

Diesel, bro, I'm sure you still look like Molly Ringwald.

[Diesel2112]

Posted this is my Quit group thread and it prob should've been here - any thoughts are much appreciated:

Wanted to get everyone's opinion on this. I am on day 7 and yesterday had major cravings. I used some of the fake stuff (Smokey Mtn, which is actually pretty good). Anyway, it seems I have really tricked my brain into thinking it's getting its fix. I know this should be a positive, but all day today I looked forward to dipping the fake stuff at around the same times I would normally have dipped on a Saturday. Is that normal? I used no fake stuff for the 1st 5 days b/c I didn't have any. I just don't want my addict brain to start the whole planning my day around dipping, even if it is fake stuff.

Any thoughts?

Hey dude- get rid of the smokey mountain, hooch is the shit.

I was feeling the same way lighty, almost like im getting more cravings since I picked up the fake stuff, but whatever, its corn silk and spices.

Ive had almost all of the kinds they have reviewed on KTC, and I have to say Hooch is my favorite. Spitfire,then the whiskey flavor. I got the rough cut which is closer to long cut. smokey mtn isnt bad, and these two are the best brands in my opinion, but the flavors arent as good (I gave up straight, never much for the minty flavors)

Good question - I've been afraid to start on the fake stuff or even seeds because I'm afraid they'll just be a gateway for me and increase my chances of relapsing.

So could a lot of things.

Look, like has been said - the oral habit of chewing (or smoking) is a bitch, but it is not the main concern right now. The addiction to nicotine is the problem - do whatever you have to do to keep that shit out of your system. Fake, seeds, candy, gum, suckers - anything. I shit you not I think I went through 1lb or more of fireballs every couple days, plus enough seeds to cover nebraska, jolly ranchers, life savers, gum, and a couple tins of fake.

The desire to use substitutes will go away over time.

J2b says is right. Focus on dealing to get a hold of dealing with the mind games from the poison.

then when the time comes, you will have the ability to leave the fake just disappear (as there is no chemical in it to hold you to it).

keep the quit strong.

Let me know when you see a guy with his face peeled back and his jaw being removed, due to sunflower seeds, gum, fireballs, worthers originals, beef jerky, etc... Because if that's the case I'm fucked.

Personally speaking for me only. I chewed gum like a mother fucker. Even slept with it in. I ordered a bunch of fakes online and didn't get into them. I just felt like I was spitting into a bottle for no reason. Plus I didn't like the consistency of it, just didn't jibe for me. I think it was NICOTINE that I was missing.

Also, for about a year I constantly bit the corner of my bottom lip. Must have looked like Molly Ringwald for that year.

Bottom line...whatever it takes to keep the shit out yo lip.

Quit on...

[SirDerek]

Posted this is my Quit group thread and it prob should've been here - any thoughts are much appreciated:

Wanted to get everyone's opinion on this. I am on day 7 and yesterday had major cravings. I used some of the fake stuff (Smokey Mtn, which is actually pretty good). Anyway, it seems I have really tricked my brain into thinking it's getting its fix. I know this should be a positive, but all day today I looked forward to dipping the fake stuff at around the same times I would normally have dipped on a Saturday. Is that normal? I used no fake stuff for the 1st 5 days b/c I didn't have any. I just don't want my addict brain to start the whole planning my day around dipping, even if it is fake stuff.

Any thoughts?

Hey dude- get rid of the smokey mountain, hooch is the shit.

I was feeling the same way lighty, almost like im getting more cravings since I picked up the fake stuff, but whatever, its corn silk and spices.

Ive had almost all of the kinds they have reviewed on KTC, and I have to say Hooch is my favorite. Spitfire,then the whiskey flavor. I got the rough cut which is closer to long cut. smokey mtn isnt bad, and these two are the best brands in my opinion, but the flavors arent as good (I gave up straight, never much for the minty flavors)

Good question - I've been afraid to start on the fake stuff or even seeds because I'm afraid they'll just be a gateway for me and increase my chances of relapsing.

So could a lot of things.

Look, like has been said - the oral habit of chewing (or smoking) is a bitch, but it is not the main concern right now. The addiction to nicotine is the problem - do whatever you have to do to keep that shit out of your system. Fake, seeds, candy, gum, suckers - anything. I shit you not I think I went through 1lb or more of fireballs every couple days, plus enough seeds to cover nebraska, jolly ranchers, life savers, gum, and a couple tins of fake.

The desire to use substitutes will go away over time.

J2b says is right. Focus on dealing to get a hold of dealing with the mind games from the poison.

then when the time comes, you will have the ability to leave the fake just disappear (as there is no chemical in it to hold you to it).

keep the quit strong.

[J2b]

Posted this is my Quit group thread and it prob should've been here - any thoughts are much appreciated:

Wanted to get everyone's opinion on this. I am on day 7 and yesterday had major cravings. I used some of the fake stuff (Smokey Mtn, which is actually pretty good). Anyway, it seems I have really tricked my brain into thinking it's getting its fix. I know this should be a positive, but all day today I looked forward to dipping the fake stuff at around the same times I would normally have dipped on a Saturday. Is that normal? I used no fake stuff for the 1st 5 days b/c I didn't have any. I just don't want my addict brain to start the whole planning my day around dipping, even if it is fake stuff.

Any thoughts?

Hey dude- get rid of the smokey mountain, hooch is the shit.

I was feeling the same way lighty, almost like im getting more cravings since I picked up the fake stuff, but whatever, its corn silk and spices.

Ive had almost all of the kinds they have reviewed on KTC, and I have to say Hooch is my favorite. Spitfire,then the whiskey flavor. I got the rough cut which is closer to long cut. smokey mtn isnt bad, and these two are the best brands in my opinion, but the flavors arent as good (I gave up straight, never much for the minty flavors)

Good question - I've been afraid to start on the fake stuff or even seeds because I'm afraid they'll just be a gateway for me and increase my chances of relapsing.

So could a lot of things.

Look, like has been said - the oral habit of chewing (or smoking) is a bitch, but it is not the main concern right now. The addiction to nicotine is the problem - do whatever you have to do to keep that shit out of your system. Fake, seeds, candy, gum, suckers - anything. I shit you not I think I went through 1lb or more of fireballs every couple days, plus enough seeds to cover nebraska, jolly ranchers, life savers, gum, and a couple tins of fake.

The desire to use substitutes will go away over time.

[TrueToMyself]

Posted this is my Quit group thread and it prob should've been here - any thoughts are much appreciated:

Wanted to get everyone's opinion on this. I am on day 7 and yesterday had major cravings. I used some of the fake stuff (Smokey Mtn, which is actually pretty good). Anyway, it seems I have really tricked my brain into thinking it's getting its fix. I know this should be a positive, but all day today I looked forward to dipping the fake stuff at around the same times I would normally have dipped on a Saturday. Is that normal? I used no fake stuff for the 1st 5 days b/c I didn't have any. I just don't want my addict brain to start the whole planning my day around dipping, even if it is fake stuff.

Any thoughts?

Hey dude- get rid of the smokey mountain, hooch is the shit.

I was feeling the same way lighty, almost like im getting more cravings since I picked up the fake stuff, but whatever, its corn silk and spices.

Ive had almost all of the kinds they have reviewed on KTC, and I have to say Hooch is my favorite. Spitfire,then the whiskey flavor. I got the rough cut which is closer to long cut. smokey mtn isnt bad, and these two are the best brands in my opinion, but the flavors arent as good (I gave up straight, never much for the minty flavors)

Good question - I've been afraid to start on the fake stuff or even seeds because I'm afraid they'll just be a gateway for me and increase my chances of relapsing.

[lighty7]

Yeah - maybe I got a bad couple tins but I'm not feeling the Hooch Wintergreen. I know it's supposed to be like Kodiak, but the Smokey Mtn Wintergreen was a lot better in my opinion. Oh well - to each his own. The Hooch headquarters are literally like 10 mins from my house so maybe I'll go over there and see if they'll give me some more samples.

Quit on fellas