Introducing pat

[Funktronic42]

Another great victory for me today. I ran a chainsaw for most of the day was not compelled too heavily to want tobacco in my mouth. I sawed fast, smart and skillfully and Coppenahgen had nothing to do with it. I was worried about how bad it would affect me to not have chew but the fact that I had some smokey mt in there took my mind right off of it and focusing on sawing. Super cool.

[Funktronic42]

So today I spent about an hour total of my time at work, which is also the sate governments time since they are paying me, laying into tobacco and persuading the corpsmembers in my program to stop chewing and join the forum. 

One fellow both smokes and chews.  He is under the impression that he should work on quitting one addiction at a time.  As though they were two totally different addictions.  As though doing one at a time will help get clean from anything.  For three days now I have been giving him a hard time and he I think that gears are starting to turn.  I will convince him to quit soon enough.

The other young man has been on my crew before and looks up to me as a mentor.  Today I saw him with a dip in his mouth and I said, "spit that crap out and try this."  I threw him my can of the oregon mint chew and he looked at, shrugged threw out his copenhagen, put some mint in his mouth and said, "Mmmm.  That's pretty good!  Where do you get this?"  I directed him to the local store and told him to join up with KTC.   He replied: "I'll look into that tonight."

I am in a position to influence young adult minds and mentor a group of five people every year.  I have been taking this groups message to masses of outdoor field work.  Time to help make some change.

Congrats Pat,  proud of you for using all your influence  learning here to help out others, that's just awesome!

I feel like I am almost pushing the boundary line with how persistent I am. But then I remember that I am saving lives. And I don't care. Fuck big tobacco.

Dig the passion but you may want chill a bit and worry about YOU. If someone doesn't want to quit, you cannot make them.

In the meat of my addiction, if someone came at me strong, telling to quit..."fuck you" would have been the first two words out of my mouth.

Again, it's great you are trying to edumacate these young fellas but your quits still wet and fresh. You need to focus on YOU. If you can get some guys to come along on your journey, that's great, but don't put too much energy into it. Use it for your own quit and let US mentor YOU.

Quit on...

I can definitely see where deisel is coming from funktronic. Your very early in your quit brother and to be honest with you it will be a little while before your head is on straight. I didn't really begin getting control of my emotions until after hof. I know you believe your helping and that is great, but you need to do you for a while. Help if you can, but don't push to hard. Quit with you brother.

I hear ya. Today at work I backed off already. this kid has expressed for a long time that he wants to quit and needs to quit so for a couple of days I pushed really hard. But you are right. This program won't work for someone that doesn't decide for themselves to join. It comes from within.

I put the tools in front of him and just need to let him choose them for himself.

I guess the amount of success that I have had here has made me feel like I am invincible. I have never felt this good when I have tried to quit. I mean the suck is always knocking on my brain in one fashion or another, but when I look at the whole thing I feel like a whole new person. Capable of more than I ever imagined. I am losing some humility I guess.

If someone wants to quit, offer tools. Don't force them. And 20 days isn't many when I share words with men that have 400+ under their belt.

[srans]

So today I spent about an hour total of my time at work, which is also the sate governments time since they are paying me, laying into tobacco and persuading the corpsmembers in my program to stop chewing and join the forum. 

One fellow both smokes and chews.  He is under the impression that he should work on quitting one addiction at a time.  As though they were two totally different addictions.  As though doing one at a time will help get clean from anything.  For three days now I have been giving him a hard time and he I think that gears are starting to turn.  I will convince him to quit soon enough.

The other young man has been on my crew before and looks up to me as a mentor.  Today I saw him with a dip in his mouth and I said, "spit that crap out and try this."  I threw him my can of the oregon mint chew and he looked at, shrugged threw out his copenhagen, put some mint in his mouth and said, "Mmmm.  That's pretty good!  Where do you get this?"  I directed him to the local store and told him to join up with KTC.   He replied: "I'll look into that tonight."

I am in a position to influence young adult minds and mentor a group of five people every year.  I have been taking this groups message to masses of outdoor field work.  Time to help make some change.

Congrats Pat,  proud of you for using all your influence  learning here to help out others, that's just awesome!

I feel like I am almost pushing the boundary line with how persistent I am. But then I remember that I am saving lives. And I don't care. Fuck big tobacco.

Dig the passion but you may want chill a bit and worry about YOU. If someone doesn't want to quit, you cannot make them.

In the meat of my addiction, if someone came at me strong, telling to quit..."fuck you" would have been the first two words out of my mouth.

Again, it's great you are trying to edumacate these young fellas but your quits still wet and fresh. You need to focus on YOU. If you can get some guys to come along on your journey, that's great, but don't put too much energy into it. Use it for your own quit and let US mentor YOU.

Quit on...

I can definitely see where deisel is coming from funktronic. Your very early in your quit brother and to be honest with you it will be a little while before your head is on straight. I didn't really begin getting control of my emotions until after hof. I know you believe your helping and that is great, but you need to do you for a while. Help if you can, but don't push to hard. Quit with you brother.

[Diesel2112]

So today I spent about an hour total of my time at work, which is also the sate governments time since they are paying me, laying into tobacco and persuading the corpsmembers in my program to stop chewing and join the forum. 

One fellow both smokes and chews.  He is under the impression that he should work on quitting one addiction at a time.  As though they were two totally different addictions.  As though doing one at a time will help get clean from anything.  For three days now I have been giving him a hard time and he I think that gears are starting to turn.  I will convince him to quit soon enough.

The other young man has been on my crew before and looks up to me as a mentor.  Today I saw him with a dip in his mouth and I said, "spit that crap out and try this."  I threw him my can of the oregon mint chew and he looked at, shrugged threw out his copenhagen, put some mint in his mouth and said, "Mmmm.  That's pretty good!  Where do you get this?"  I directed him to the local store and told him to join up with KTC.   He replied: "I'll look into that tonight."

I am in a position to influence young adult minds and mentor a group of five people every year.  I have been taking this groups message to masses of outdoor field work.  Time to help make some change.

Congrats Pat,  proud of you for using all your influence  learning here to help out others, that's just awesome!

I feel like I am almost pushing the boundary line with how persistent I am. But then I remember that I am saving lives. And I don't care. Fuck big tobacco.

Dig the passion but you may want chill a bit and worry about YOU. If someone doesn't want to quit, you cannot make them.

In the meat of my addiction, if someone came at me strong, telling to quit..."fuck you" would have been the first two words out of my mouth.

Again, it's great you are trying to edumacate these young fellas but your quits still wet and fresh. You need to focus on YOU. If you can get some guys to come along on your journey, that's great, but don't put too much energy into it. Use it for your own quit and let US mentor YOU.

Quit on...

[Funktronic42]

So today I spent about an hour total of my time at work, which is also the sate governments time since they are paying me, laying into tobacco and persuading the corpsmembers in my program to stop chewing and join the forum. 

One fellow both smokes and chews.  He is under the impression that he should work on quitting one addiction at a time.  As though they were two totally different addictions.  As though doing one at a time will help get clean from anything.  For three days now I have been giving him a hard time and he I think that gears are starting to turn.  I will convince him to quit soon enough.

The other young man has been on my crew before and looks up to me as a mentor.  Today I saw him with a dip in his mouth and I said, "spit that crap out and try this."  I threw him my can of the oregon mint chew and he looked at, shrugged threw out his copenhagen, put some mint in his mouth and said, "Mmmm.  That's pretty good!  Where do you get this?"  I directed him to the local store and told him to join up with KTC.  He replied: "I'll look into that tonight."

I am in a position to influence young adult minds and mentor a group of five people every year.  I have been taking this groups message to masses of outdoor field work.  Time to help make some change.

Congrats Pat,  proud of you for using all your influence  learning here to help out others, that's just awesome!

I feel like I am almost pushing the boundary line with how persistent I am. But then I remember that I am saving lives. And I don't care. Fuck big tobacco.

[Mike from AB]

So today I spent about an hour total of my time at work, which is also the sate governments time since they are paying me, laying into tobacco and persuading the corpsmembers in my program to stop chewing and join the forum.

One fellow both smokes and chews. He is under the impression that he should work on quitting one addiction at a time. As though they were two totally different addictions. As though doing one at a time will help get clean from anything. For three days now I have been giving him a hard time and he I think that gears are starting to turn. I will convince him to quit soon enough.

The other young man has been on my crew before and looks up to me as a mentor. Today I saw him with a dip in his mouth and I said, "spit that crap out and try this." I threw him my can of the oregon mint chew and he looked at, shrugged threw out his copenhagen, put some mint in his mouth and said, "Mmmm. That's pretty good! Where do you get this?" I directed him to the local store and told him to join up with KTC. He replied: "I'll look into that tonight."

I am in a position to influence young adult minds and mentor a group of five people every year. I have been taking this groups message to masses of outdoor field work. Time to help make some change.

Congrats Pat,  proud of you for using all your influence  learning here to help out others, that's just awesome!

[Funktronic42]

So today I spent about an hour total of my time at work, which is also the sate governments time since they are paying me, laying into tobacco and persuading the corpsmembers in my program to stop chewing and join the forum.

One fellow both smokes and chews. He is under the impression that he should work on quitting one addiction at a time. As though they were two totally different addictions. As though doing one at a time will help get clean from anything. For three days now I have been giving him a hard time and he I think that gears are starting to turn. I will convince him to quit soon enough.

The other young man has been on my crew before and looks up to me as a mentor. Today I saw him with a dip in his mouth and I said, "spit that crap out and try this." I threw him my can of the oregon mint chew and he looked at, shrugged threw out his copenhagen, put some mint in his mouth and said, "Mmmm. That's pretty good! Where do you get this?" I directed him to the local store and told him to join up with KTC. He replied: "I'll look into that tonight."

I am in a position to influence young adult minds and mentor a group of five people every year. I have been taking this groups message to masses of outdoor field work. Time to help make some change.

[Funktronic42]

Today was the first day back into the full swing of work with a new crew.  The best part about it is...  None of them use tobacco.  AWESOME!!!!!  I almost hired them tat way.  it got to the point where I was feeling a little silly with some oregon mint snuff in my mouth because why on earth did I need anything today.  I didn't get rid of it because I am sure that will change tomorrow.    or some day down the line.  But it was a good day on the chew front. 

I am tired as hell though.  No amount of sleep is enough.  No matter what.

Congrats brother and continue to keep those little "bug out" bags full of dip alternatives near you. I have certainly utilized mine and odd times.

Stay focused on your quit and it is great to hear that you have a dip free crew to work with now.

Pinched

I kind of want to try some different stuff. There are just so many fake products out there to choose from. Hard to say what is better. Some sound really delicious.

[Pinched]

Today was the first day back into the full swing of work with a new crew. The best part about it is... None of them use tobacco. AWESOME!!!!! I almost hired them tat way. it got to the point where I was feeling a little silly with some oregon mint snuff in my mouth because why on earth did I need anything today. I didn't get rid of it because I am sure that will change tomorrow. or some day down the line. But it was a good day on the chew front.

I am tired as hell though. No amount of sleep is enough. No matter what.

Congrats brother and continue to keep those little "bug out" bags full of dip alternatives near you. I have certainly utilized mine and odd times.

Stay focused on your quit and it is great to hear that you have a dip free crew to work with now.

Pinched

[Funktronic42]

Today was the first day back into the full swing of work with a new crew. The best part about it is... None of them use tobacco. AWESOME!!!!! I almost hired them tat way. it got to the point where I was feeling a little silly with some oregon mint snuff in my mouth because why on earth did I need anything today. I didn't get rid of it because I am sure that will change tomorrow. or some day down the line. But it was a good day on the chew front.

I am tired as hell though. No amount of sleep is enough. No matter what.

[Punkin]

I just read through your Intro and Im proud to be quit with you.

[Mike from AB]

I had an interesting moment today in which I began getting angry at tobacco use and the industry that spawned.

It started with some severe cravings that stuck to me in the morning and held on for god knows what reason. I just started to become manic with the desire to have a high from nicotine. I went over to my daughters soccer coach who has been quitting and asked him if he had some of the NIP the GRIP substitute that he had let me try a few days earlier. I wanted to connect with a fellow quitter and get something that was close but not chew. at this point he told me that he was out and that told me that he was chewing again. he offered me some chew and I said, "No way man. I'm 15 days quit and I am not throwing that away." As I look back there may have been shame in his eyes but I also want there to be shame in his eyes.

I strolled off to the bathroom where I sat on the john thinking about how badly I wanted to dip when I shot a text off to sportsfan112 and told him about the gas station 100 yrds away and how strong my cravings were. I was close to walking over to the gas station for some chew. He reminded me of how great it would be to meet my grand children and stay healthy enough to watch them grow and how I wouldn't have that if I didn't stay quit. He talked me down and for that I am eternally grateful.

Then at half time I noticed that coach was dipping in front of the team. and I got mad. I didn't say anything then, because I didn't want to make a giant emotional scene in front of the team and all the parents so I went and told his wife to hound him and get him on this site.

but for the first time I was mad at another person for chewing. I have been telling everyone I know that chews about KTC but this time I wanted to hound this man. Chase him down and give him the business. I intend to go to the next practice and talk to him about it in a more civilized manner. When I am not ready to yell.

Then I read the story about SGT112's dad and super sad and needed to drop this all out. I feel burnt out. worn to the ground but confident in victory for not falling to the the nicifiend. Stay strong my brothers and much love to SGT and sports fan. They are true troopers.

So he fell off the wagon,  tempted you but you stayed on  hung on, awesome work yesterday bro! Proud to be quit with you today. Who knows? Maybe your daughter's soccer coach will be looking up to your example  wondering just how the heck you stayed quit  you'll have a great story to share that he can take some inspiration from. You got this, you're doing it. The more emotionally involved you become here with the guys  friends  such it's harder, if not impossible to cave. Just post roll everyday. Proud to be quit with you today.

[Sportsfan231]

I had an interesting moment today in which I began getting angry at tobacco use and the industry that spawned.

It started with some severe cravings that stuck to me in the morning and held on for god knows what reason. I just started to become manic with the desire to have a high from nicotine. I went over to my daughters soccer coach who has been quitting and asked him if he had some of the NIP the GRIP substitute that he had let me try a few days earlier. I wanted to connect with a fellow quitter and get something that was close but not chew. at this point he told me that he was out and that told me that he was chewing again. he offered me some chew and I said, "No way man. I'm 15 days quit and I am not throwing that away." As I look back there may have been shame in his eyes but I also want there to be shame in his eyes.

I strolled off to the bathroom where I sat on the john thinking about how badly I wanted to dip when I shot a text off to sportsfan112 and told him about the gas station 100 yrds away and how strong my cravings were. I was close to walking over to the gas station for some chew. He reminded me of how great it would be to meet my grand children and stay healthy enough to watch them grow and how I wouldn't have that if I didn't stay quit. He talked me down and for that I am eternally grateful.

Then at half time I noticed that coach was dipping in front of the team. and I got mad. I didn't say anything then, because I didn't want to make a giant emotional scene in front of the team and all the parents so I went and told his wife to hound him and get him on this site.

but for the first time I was mad at another person for chewing. I have been telling everyone I know that chews about KTC but this time I wanted to hound this man. Chase him down and give him the business. I intend to go to the next practice and talk to him about it in a more civilized manner. When I am not ready to yell.

Then I read the story about SGT112's dad and super sad and needed to drop this all out. I feel burnt out. worn to the ground but confident in victory for not falling to the the nicifiend. Stay strong my brothers and much love to SGT and sports fan. They are true troopers.

hope you have a better day today count yesterday as victory.

[Funktronic42]

I had an interesting moment today in which I began getting angry at tobacco use and the industry that spawned.

It started with some severe cravings that stuck to me in the morning and held on for god knows what reason. I just started to become manic with the desire to have a high from nicotine. I went over to my daughters soccer coach who has been quitting and asked him if he had some of the NIP the GRIP substitute that he had let me try a few days earlier. I wanted to connect with a fellow quitter and get something that was close but not chew. at this point he told me that he was out and that told me that he was chewing again. he offered me some chew and I said, "No way man. I'm 15 days quit and I am not throwing that away." As I look back there may have been shame in his eyes but I also want there to be shame in his eyes.

I strolled off to the bathroom where I sat on the john thinking about how badly I wanted to dip when I shot a text off to sportsfan112 and told him about the gas station 100 yrds away and how strong my cravings were. I was close to walking over to the gas station for some chew. He reminded me of how great it would be to meet my grand children and stay healthy enough to watch them grow and how I wouldn't have that if I didn't stay quit. He talked me down and for that I am eternally grateful.

Then at half time I noticed that coach was dipping in front of the team. and I got mad. I didn't say anything then, because I didn't want to make a giant emotional scene in front of the team and all the parents so I went and told his wife to hound him and get him on this site.

but for the first time I was mad at another person for chewing. I have been telling everyone I know that chews about KTC but this time I wanted to hound this man. Chase him down and give him the business. I intend to go to the next practice and talk to him about it in a more civilized manner. When I am not ready to yell.

Then I read the story about SGT112's dad and super sad and needed to drop this all out. I feel burnt out. worn to the ground but confident in victory for not falling to the the nicifiend. Stay strong my brothers and much love to SGT and sports fan. They are true troopers.

[Funktronic42]

I am however now in this bit of a dark phase. I think that I may be just generally unhealthy anyway but there is this current cloud of depression hanging on me lately. Is this just another symptom of brain re-wiring?

Ok,,, We have yoda who's screen name is FUNKtronic talking about the dark phase. Am I the only one seeying all this,, LOL..

Your doing great my friend. These were the worst part of the quit for me. I'm not one to get depressed, but yet I got really depressed, felt like the world was going to end as I Knew it.

These funks last a few days. Exercise and eating helps. I had a hard time exercising, but no problem eating. I good milk shake does wonders right after a medium well steak. Get yourself busy doing something. Sitting around is the worst thing you can do. Keep your mind busy doing something, anything. Glad to be quit with you.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! 'crackup'

I didn't see that. Well played sir. The force is strong in you.

I have managed to exorcise more than normal actually. Quitting is what got me started on an exorcise plan at all. Swimming is the way to go. And eating has not been a problem for me either. that's also why I have hit the pool. I'm just glad to know it is part of the package. I mean, it was a logical conclusion. I understand enough about brain chemistry and addiction to realize that that is probably the case. But to have it affirmed, is assuring.