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Re: Mike in TX 20 yr and giving it up
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2012, 07:56:00 PM »
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Day Three Rant
I was told to share this kind of stuff with some of you and that it might help someone. I am sure you guys get tons of rants, raves and rage outs here. I so I will try to make this one short. The best place to start is by first saying “Hey, I've been addicted to Nicotine for almost 38 yrs.” I came to this conclusion this morning while sitting here in this day 3 fog. I come from a long line of nicotine addicts and I was most likely addicted while in the womb. My mother was a smoker and is still one to this day. Hell, everyone in my family is some sort of addict. The home I grew up in was a chain smokers home. So I really haven’t had a break from this shit.
This morning as I reflected on the last time I “attempted to quit” and realized I wasn't doing it for myself. I was doing it so people would quit nagging. That did not work out quite as planned because I have always been a big fan of Cigars. I figure one a day wouldn't hurt. It also didn't allow me to flush my system. The human body is amazing. When it is not getting something it is craving quite as much as it is used to it will adapt to the situation. Metabolisms slow, things happen on a cellular level. I am not a biologist but I have read enough to know this is true. So the fact was I hadn't actually quit, my body just adapted to the amount it was getting and was just waiting for “a Can” moment.
That moment happened a few months down the road. Stress hits and I just happen to be on my way to a gas station and guess who is there. A snuff rep and he is giving the shit away free all day. Yep he caught me and I got 4 logs free and had a pinch in before I even got outta the store. 
Now here is the reflection part. That pinch should have given me a buzz, I mean I was quit for several months, right. Wrong.
I am on day 3. I can tell you I did not feel any of this last time. I got the fog or whatever the hell itÂ’s called and you know what, it will pass. IÂ’m good because this time, this is my quit.
I have already put everyone in my house on full alert. My wife, bless her heart, comes to me this morning and informs me that we need to go to the grocery store… I promptly put the brakes on this one. I politely let her know that I would not be going shopping with her until I am a bit further into this. I absolutely hate shopping. I am not a browser. I hit the stores with a vengeance, get in and out as fast as I can. My wife, Oh lets walk around and look. 
I thought about this while she was telling me about the shopping. Yep I always had a dip in while in the store with her. TriggerÂ…. Identified and not going there yet.

So I guess my point is, if there is any, if you are not doing this for you, it ain't going to work. (and hell yeah I said "ain't". That a word in the south). Be aware of what your triggers were and do your best to avoid them the first few days. Tackle them later, when you are stronger.

Well, I'm done. Enough said.

Mike
Mr. MS I just finished writing this great big long rant to you and the f'n computer dumped it. You are lucky I don't need to rant and rage anymore now I got it out of my system already. so I'll make it short get over to September 12 HOF Post roll and do it everyday early, make the promise to a bunch of addicts that are total strangers (at least for now) Keep your promise for the day and repeat it again the next day.
I am a 38 + yr. addict also and have made that promise every morning for the past 70 days. I know that I can never let these guys and gals down. If I make that promise I will keep it. If I fail to promise, I'm putting myself in jeopardy.
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Re: Mike in TX 20 yr and giving it up
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2012, 07:47:00 PM »
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Day Three Rant
I was told to share this kind of stuff with some of you and that it might help someone. I am sure you guys get tons of rants, raves and rage outs here. I so I will try to make this one short. The best place to start is by first saying “Hey, I've been addicted to Nicotine for almost 38 yrs.” I came to this conclusion this morning while sitting here in this day 3 fog. I come from a long line of nicotine addicts and I was most likely addicted while in the womb. My mother was a smoker and is still one to this day. Hell, everyone in my family is some sort of addict. The home I grew up in was a chain smokers home. So I really haven’t had a break from this shit.
This morning as I reflected on the last time I “attempted to quit” and realized I wasn't doing it for myself. I was doing it so people would quit nagging. That did not work out quite as planned because I have always been a big fan of Cigars. I figure one a day wouldn't hurt. It also didn't allow me to flush my system. The human body is amazing. When it is not getting something it is craving quite as much as it is used to it will adapt to the situation. Metabolisms slow, things happen on a cellular level. I am not a biologist but I have read enough to know this is true. So the fact was I hadn't actually quit, my body just adapted to the amount it was getting and was just waiting for “a Can” moment.
That moment happened a few months down the road. Stress hits and I just happen to be on my way to a gas station and guess who is there. A snuff rep and he is giving the shit away free all day. Yep he caught me and I got 4 logs free and had a pinch in before I even got outta the store. 
Now here is the reflection part. That pinch should have given me a buzz, I mean I was quit for several months, right. Wrong.
I am on day 3. I can tell you I did not feel any of this last time. I got the fog or whatever the hell itÂ’s called and you know what, it will pass. IÂ’m good because this time, this is my quit.
I have already put everyone in my house on full alert. My wife, bless her heart, comes to me this morning and informs me that we need to go to the grocery store… I promptly put the brakes on this one. I politely let her know that I would not be going shopping with her until I am a bit further into this. I absolutely hate shopping. I am not a browser. I hit the stores with a vengeance, get in and out as fast as I can. My wife, Oh lets walk around and look. 
I thought about this while she was telling me about the shopping. Yep I always had a dip in while in the store with her. TriggerÂ…. Identified and not going there yet.

So I guess my point is, if there is any, if you are not doing this for you, it ain't going to work. (and hell yeah I said "ain't". That a word in the south). Be aware of what your triggers were and do your best to avoid them the first few days. Tackle them later, when you are stronger.

Well, I'm done. Enough said.

Mike
Mr. MS I just finished writing this great big long rant to you and the f'n computer dumped it. You are lucky I don't need to rant and rage anymore now I got it out of my system already. so I'll make it short get over to September 12 HOF Post roll and do it everyday early, make the promise to a bunch of addicts that are total strangers (at least for now) Keep your promise for the day and repeat it again the next day.
I am a 38 + yr. addict also and have made that promise every morning for the past 70 days. I know that I can never let these guys and gals down. If I make that promise I will keep it. If I fail to promise, I'm putting myself in jeopardy.
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Re: Mike in TX 20 yr and giving it up
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2012, 07:45:00 PM »
A did it bright and early this morning and will make roll call in the morning.

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Re: Mike in TX 20 yr and giving it up
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2012, 07:34:00 PM »
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Day Three Rant
I was told to share this kind of stuff with some of you and that it might help someone. I am sure you guys get tons of rants, raves and rage outs here. I so I will try to make this one short. The best place to start is by first saying “Hey, I've been addicted to Nicotine for almost 38 yrs.” I came to this conclusion this morning while sitting here in this day 3 fog. I come from a long line of nicotine addicts and I was most likely addicted while in the womb. My mother was a smoker and is still one to this day. Hell, everyone in my family is some sort of addict. The home I grew up in was a chain smokers home. So I really haven’t had a break from this shit.
This morning as I reflected on the last time I “attempted to quit” and realized I wasn't doing it for myself. I was doing it so people would quit nagging. That did not work out quite as planned because I have always been a big fan of Cigars. I figure one a day wouldn't hurt. It also didn't allow me to flush my system. The human body is amazing. When it is not getting something it is craving quite as much as it is used to it will adapt to the situation. Metabolisms slow, things happen on a cellular level. I am not a biologist but I have read enough to know this is true. So the fact was I hadn't actually quit, my body just adapted to the amount it was getting and was just waiting for “a Can” moment.
That moment happened a few months down the road. Stress hits and I just happen to be on my way to a gas station and guess who is there. A snuff rep and he is giving the shit away free all day. Yep he caught me and I got 4 logs free and had a pinch in before I even got outta the store. 
Now here is the reflection part. That pinch should have given me a buzz, I mean I was quit for several months, right. Wrong.
I am on day 3. I can tell you I did not feel any of this last time. I got the fog or whatever the hell itÂ’s called and you know what, it will pass. IÂ’m good because this time, this is my quit.
I have already put everyone in my house on full alert. My wife, bless her heart, comes to me this morning and informs me that we need to go to the grocery store… I promptly put the brakes on this one. I politely let her know that I would not be going shopping with her until I am a bit further into this. I absolutely hate shopping. I am not a browser. I hit the stores with a vengeance, get in and out as fast as I can. My wife, Oh lets walk around and look. 
I thought about this while she was telling me about the shopping. Yep I always had a dip in while in the store with her. TriggerÂ…. Identified and not going there yet.

So I guess my point is, if there is any, if you are not doing this for you, it ain't going to work. (and hell yeah I said "ain't". That a word in the south). Be aware of what your triggers were and do your best to avoid them the first few days. Tackle them later, when you are stronger.

Well, I'm done. Enough said.

Mike
Mr. MS I just finished writing this great big long rant to you and the f'n computer dumped it. You are lucky I don't need to rant and rage anymore now I got it out of my system already. so I'll make it short get over to September 12 HOF Post roll and do it everyday early, make the promise to a bunch of addicts that are total strangers (at least for now) Keep your promise for the day and repeat it again the next day.
I am a 38 + yr. addict also and have made that promise every morning for the past 70 days. I know that I can never let these guys and gals down. If I make that promise I will keep it. If I fail to promise, I'm putting myself in jeopardy.
4/1/2012: Nicotine Quit Date
7/9/12: HOF The Missing Warning Label
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Re: Mike in TX 20 yr and giving it up
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 07:05:00 PM »
Day Three Rant
I was told to share this kind of stuff with some of you and that it might help someone. I am sure you guys get tons of rants, raves and rage outs here. I so I will try to make this one short. The best place to start is by first saying “Hey, I’ve been addicted to Nicotine for almost 38 yrs.” I came to this conclusion this morning while sitting here in this day 3 fog. I come from a long line of nicotine addicts and I was most likely addicted while in the womb. My mother was a smoker and is still one to this day. Hell, everyone in my family is some sort of addict. The home I grew up in was a chain smokers home. So I really haven’t had a break from this shit.
This morning as I reflected on the last time I “attempted to quit” and realized I wasn’t doing it for myself. I was doing it so people would quit nagging. That did not work out quite as planned because I have always been a big fan of Cigars. I figure one a day wouldn’t hurt. It also didn’t allow me to flush my system. The human body is amazing. When it is not getting something it is craving quite as much as it is used to it will adapt to the situation. Metabolisms slow, things happen on a cellular level. I am not a biologist but I have read enough to know this is true. So the fact was I hadn’t actually quit, my body just adapted to the amount it was getting and was just waiting for “a Can” moment.
That moment happened a few months down the road. Stress hits and I just happen to be on my way to a gas station and guess who is there. A snuff rep and he is giving the shit away free all day. Yep he caught me and I got 4 logs free and had a pinch in before I even got outta the store.
Now here is the reflection part. That pinch should have given me a buzz, I mean I was quit for several months, right. Wrong.
I am on day 3. I can tell you I did not feel any of this last time. I got the fog or whatever the hell itÂ’s called and you know what, it will pass. IÂ’m good because this time, this is my quit.
I have already put everyone in my house on full alert. My wife, bless her heart, comes to me this morning and informs me that we need to go to the grocery storeÂ… I promptly put the brakes on this one. I politely let her know that I would not be going shopping with her until I am a bit further into this. I absolutely hate shopping. I am not a browser. I hit the stores with a vengeance, get in and out as fast as I can. My wife, Oh lets walk around and look.
I thought about this while she was telling me about the shopping. Yep I always had a dip in while in the store with her. TriggerÂ…. Identified and not going there yet.

So I guess my point is, if there is any, if you are not doing this for you, it aint going to work. (and hell yeah I said "aint". Thats a word in the south). Be aware of what your triggers were and do your best to avoid them the first few days. Tackle them later, when you are stronger.

Well, I'm done. Enough said.

Mike

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Re: Mike in TX 20 yr and giving it up
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 06:49:00 AM »
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I would love to here input from anyone on which ones help fight that "need a pinch" urge.
man like that dakota guy says theres ways to order that fake stuff on line. some guys sware by it like the teck geek chewy what does lots a board stuff here. he's got lots a years quit. i dont like it none. cuz i failed so many times usin it.

theres lots a guys here what sware seeds are the way to go.

other guys like hard candy like them jolly rannches.

me? theres just one thing for me. tomic fire balls man. i rote bout them a lot in my intro. you can reed all bout it by checkin out that linky in my sign line. its the bestest thred you ever red one.
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Re: Mike in TX 20 yr and giving it up
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 07:13:00 PM »
MSymonds, I am at 6-days and have found that the fake stuff has worked for me, I tried hooch and smokey mountain, I now have found Holt, it is an alfalfa mix of non nic stuff. Some guys say useing the fake stuff is to much like the real thing that they perfer not to tempt fate, Alot of guys have said do what ever works to keep the nic bitch away. If you can't get fake stuff where you are at I would suggest you order some asap, what ever you do don't use! like you will hear from other guys post roll and promise the guys here every day you wont use. E-mail me if you want to shoot the shit.
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Re: Mike in TX 20 yr and giving it up
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 03:18:00 PM »
Flush that can and get to quittin! No more excuses Brother, you CAN do this. I see it every day on this website. Addicts quitting every day over here. You just have to reach down deep and do this for YOU.

Step 1 is posting roll. That's putting your name and reputation on the line. Posting roll is saying you will not dip today. Do it every morning and let those days stack up.

Craves will come and go. Be prepared. Stock up on gum, candy, sunflower seeds, atomic fireballs..whatever..anything but nicotine. Your mind will play tricks on you these first few days. Keep focused..

Now go post roll dude! Watcha waiting fer???

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Re: Mike in TX 20 yr and giving it up
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 02:56:00 PM »
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hi MSymonds,
Glad you could make your "get your life back" appointment. You did have an appointment, didn't you? You didn't arrive here by accident....you were looking for help with your "gotta have a pinch" urge....
Well, you're gonna get alot of support and hear alot of shit that is 100% true cause we ain't sellin' nothing, we're just quittin' nicotine.
It is real simple here:
post roll when you wake up in the morning (earlier the better), Keep your promise, get to bed, wake and REPEAT. See how simple it is....Welcome to hell brother. I said it is simple, not easy. It is far from easy and the 1st week is the hardest (for me anyway I am day 14).
Read everything on this site, all the links, subjects. Bury your ass here as long as you can everyday.
oh before i forget. You're an addict just like me. You're not allowed any nictotine gum, patches or even a little pinch. you have to BURN YOUR BRIDGES, DESTROY THE PILINGS, SO THE NIC BITCH CAN'T REBUILD.
You see, the can is the big nic bitch, the sissy patches and gum are the little nic bitches. Kick them all in the teeth, flush them down the toilet, destroy anything/everything dip related. Quit now, quit today. You can do this MSymonds. If I can, YOU can. Get quit now.
30isEnuff is right.

"My wife just doesn't understand what it's like to just give up."

Neither did mine. She was hurt that I didn't love her enough to quit for her. She was shocked when my kids pleaded with me and had an intervention that I didn't quit for them.

Oh every time, I thought, "This shit isn't worth it, this is my last can." It never was.

I am 86 days quit today and so intrigued with how great I feel to be quit. It hasn't been an easy road, but it was easier to control my addiction vs. hide it from everyone.

Are you sick of tobacco running and ruining your life? Do you wonder why you still use it when it is no longer fun and you really don't want it? If you are wanting to quit because you are guilty but still worship the drug, you will fail yet again. You see, you are an addict. Addicts have to be the ones that want and desire to be done. You can't quit for God, your wife, your job. Nothing is more important to your desire to quit except you. Are you selfish enough to do this for you? If you are, then you can quit.

You will need your wife to support you. She doesn't understand because it sounds like she isn't an addict. When you quit, post roll and then print out the article on how a spouse can support a quitter. I gave that to my wife. I also send her weekly emails to let her know the struggles and successes of staying quit. She didn't understand how hard it was but she loved that I was so determined. My sex life is fantastic BTW. Almost 21 years of marriage and she treats me like George Clooney! She probably thinks of him in the act but I don't care It is a fun roll in the hay.


Finally the need for a pinch. Anything nicotine free is acceptable to stay quit. I wrestle with the term, "Need" for a pinch though. It is a want for a pinch but if you don't do it and restrain, you wont die. So you need to breathe and you want a pinch.

I wanted a pinch but went cold turkey. I did use some Aussie licorice at times but I didn't ever want it to appear that I was dipping so I stayed away from the fake stuff.

If you want a pinch, shredded carrots, Shredded beef jerky, smokey mountain etc. If it isn't nicotine, do what you must to stay quit. Alcohol is a huge trigger to a cave it is recommended that you abstain from alcohol for the first 50 days while your brain rewires.
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Re: Mike in TX 20 yr and giving it up
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 02:47:00 PM »
Go to the Welcome Center (index.php?showforum=13) and start reading.

Pills and patches are for pussies. You gotta be a bad-ass to quit. There are no short-cuts and nobody can do this for you. Learn to love the craves and the suck that goes with quitting...that is HEALING!!!

You can do this. You've got everything you need already...desire, commitment and support from all the quitters on this site. Great choice, brother!!!

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Re: Mike in TX 20 yr and giving it up
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 02:24:00 PM »
hi MSymonds,
Glad you could make your "get your life back" appointment. You did have an appointment, didn't you? You didn't arrive here by accident....you were looking for help with your "gotta have a pinch" urge....
Well, you're gonna get alot of support and hear alot of shit that is 100% true cause we ain't sellin' nothing, we're just quittin' nicotine.
It is real simple here:
post roll when you wake up in the morning (earlier the better), Keep your promise, get to bed, wake and REPEAT. See how simple it is....Welcome to hell brother. I said it is simple, not easy. It is far from easy and the 1st week is the hardest (for me anyway I am day 14).
Read everything on this site, all the links, subjects. Bury your ass here as long as you can everyday.
oh before i forget. You're an addict just like me. You're not allowed any nictotine gum, patches or even a little pinch. you have to BURN YOUR BRIDGES, DESTROY THE PILINGS, SO THE NIC BITCH CAN'T REBUILD.
You see, the can is the big nic bitch, the sissy patches and gum are the little nic bitches. Kick them all in the teeth, flush them down the toilet, destroy anything/everything dip related. Quit now, quit today. You can do this MSymonds. If I can, YOU can. Get quit now.
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Mike in TX 20 yr and giving it up
« on: June 07, 2012, 02:12:00 PM »
I've tried to quit about 5yrs ago. Well I'm here so it didn't work for me. The hardest part was the need to have a pinch. I stumbled here while browsing for alternative nicotine free products. I am Impressed with the support groups here. My wife just doesn't understand what it's like to just give up. She went and bought me some nicotine gum and that crap just makes me sick to my stomach. None of the stores around here carry the nicotine free products. I would love to here input from anyone on which ones help fight that "need a pinch" urge.