Thanks rsnftw, proud to be quit with you today. I read your intro and also a post about a weird dream involving a cousin you tripped up. Weird thing is my older cousins BF gave me my first Skoal dip on the Ortega hwy. It was kind of a manhood challenge i Guess, Big challenge considering that mountain pass and my propensity for car sickness. How could I not take the challenge?, I mean I had to prove my manhood here in this situation... I handled it ok but ,,,,,What a fucked up System! I was a dipper after that day.