Introduction

[KingNothing]

Well I went into a convienence store for the first time since Jan 2nd and managed to walk out without a can! I do roll call and it really helps, who wants to be a douche bag who can't keep his word for a day!

Post roll early and keep your word. Great formula for success

Congrats AB, these victories will pile up in no time. Every little victory is more distance between you and nicotine.

[JGlav]

Well I went into a convienence store for the first time since Jan 2nd and managed to walk out without a can! I do roll call and it really helps, who wants to be a douche bag who can't keep his word for a day!

Post roll early and keep your word. Great formula for success

[Airborne]

Well I went into a convienence store for the first time since Jan 2nd and managed to walk out without a can! I do roll call and it really helps, who wants to be a douche bag who can't keep his word for a day!

[JGlav]

What the fuck does "This ^^^" mean? I swear I think my writing is fucking clear, and there goes some fucking 20 year old typing shit that is meaningless to me. Yea sent digits, daughter taught me how to block fuckers.

So right now I feel like a total duche bag, I'm feeling all sorry for myself cuz I want to suck all the mint flavor out of a can of dip right now while my wife is having total stress gettng final plans made for her mom's funeral tomorrow, well the rosary is tomorrow. Funeral next day. We're catholic and that's the way we roll.

Fucking Big Tobaco.

Agreed on Big Tobacco. Also, I'll circle the beads for your mother in law. Bottom line, this place is here for you. Use it. It's worth it, i promise.

I'm a bead rattler and I do a circle for your family as well.

[KingNothing]

What the fuck does "This ^^^" mean? I swear I think my writing is fucking clear, and there goes some fucking 20 year old typing shit that is meaningless to me. Yea sent digits, daughter taught me how to block fuckers.

So right now I feel like a total duche bag, I'm feeling all sorry for myself cuz I want to suck all the mint flavor out of a can of dip right now while my wife is having total stress gettng final plans made for her mom's funeral tomorrow, well the rosary is tomorrow. Funeral next day. We're catholic and that's the way we roll.

Fucking Big Tobaco.

Agreed on Big Tobacco. Also, I'll circle the beads for your mother in law. Bottom line, this place is here for you. Use it. It's worth it, i promise.

[FISHFLORIDA]

What the fuck does "This ^^^" mean? I swear I think my writing is fucking clear, and there goes some fucking 20 year old typing shit that is meaningless to me. Yea sent digits, daughter taught me how to block fuckers.

So right now I feel like a total duche bag, I'm feeling all sorry for myself cuz I want to suck all the mint flavor out of a can of dip right now while my wife is having total stress gettng final plans made for her mom's funeral tomorrow, well the rosary is tomorrow. Funeral next day. We're catholic and that's the way we roll.

Fucking Big Tobaco.

^^^^ is simply arrows pointing to whatever is above it, in that case, a post.
If I typed "what he said ^^^^!!!", I was referring to the guy above me. Thanks for your service. Glad to see you posted up and what you said about Walkers dog dying was good tough love.

[Airborne]

What the fuck does "This ^^^" mean? I swear I think my writing is fucking clear, and there goes some fucking 20 year old typing shit that is meaningless to me. Yea sent digits, daughter taught me how to block fuckers.

So right now I feel like a total duche bag, I'm feeling all sorry for myself cuz I want to suck all the mint flavor out of a can of dip right now while my wife is having total stress gettng final plans made for her mom's funeral tomorrow, well the rosary is tomorrow. Funeral next day. We're catholic and that's the way we roll.

Fucking Big Tobaco.

[KingNothing]

Airborne,
I've been reading through your intro, relating to just about everything you have said. I'm a few years younger, and maybe a little more computer savy, but other than that...I'm right there with you. I've been trying the fake snuff (Smokey Mountain)  it has been helping a bunch. If you happen to text, send me a message on PM  we can exchange numbers. It's good to have someone there to hold you to your word, shoot a text to for encouragement, etc. Hang in there, We can do this!

This ^^^. I don't tell you to exchange numbers with your fellow quitters willy-nilly. I know the resistance, especially in the geriatric crowd. However, these guys WILL have your back. If you give your number to a quitter, you best believe that quitter is going to blow your ass up if you don't post roll. THAT IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY KTC IS PREMISED UPON. Whether you're the guy doing the blowing up or you're getting blown up, you're feeling the effects of KTC and that's why this place works. You will not fall through the cracks if you make the effort to be a part of this thing.

[JGlav]

Mid-Day 10 (11JAN2016)-So I'm getting laid off soon and have plenty of time to reflect and read quite a bit in the Roll Call for the April Group (no work to be done and I look busy) :-), I'm in a good place and am blessed so don't fret about the getting laid off shit. I plan on putting in some of that Pergo stuff while I'm laying around the house. Shit, better have something to do or I'll go crazy. Quite a bit of drama in the Roll Call Forum, and after reading and contemplating what was being said it seems to me that the last time I stopped using dip if there had been a group like this (not much was on the internet in those days) where you would check in daily and say I'm not using this shit today, I believe I would have never started up again. I think daily reminder is a necessity. What I can tell you is I was off the stuff for a couple of years, yea years and in one moment of stupidity it led to another 15 year stent. Times are approximate, don't bust my balls if I said 13 years in one post and 15 in another.

Some cat fell off the wagon, lied, what the fuck ever and is being called a "TROLL". What the fuck does that mean? You young feller's need to understand that a few old fucks are in here and trying to make heads or tails out your post is quite challenging. For now I have time to kind of dig around and tie the pieces together and come with a story. So perhaps a vocabulary section would be nice. I can't tell you how many times I have to ask all the young people at work what is that? what does this mean? what is that emoti's? and fucking abbreviations are endless.

I got side tracked there. So this is the second time I am really giving it an effort to stop using dip. I actually find it easier this time with this forum. I'll sit here and read stuff about guys going through some really tough symptoms and cravings and kind of think I've got easier than that guy so I have no excuse to start up.

The point in this rant is the time I stopped using I never lost the craving for a dip, don't get me wrong it wasn't everyday and constant and I wasn't in a fog. I'd be sitting around a fire and just hanging out and it would hit, and it was real and powerful. Just a pinch...

So who ever put this thing together thanks. I believe it will make this time easier and longer lasting, I believe the whole roll call thing will be essential in maintenance.

The word Thumblewort mean "Man with Huge Donger" to anyone under 30. Tru dat homie!

Really what he is referring to is his Dongle. To anyone over thirty that is known as " a small device " to connect a computer to. NOTE Small

[Dan-Man]

Airborne,
I've been reading through your intro, relating to just about everything you have said. I'm a few years younger, and maybe a little more computer savy, but other than that...I'm right there with you. I've been trying the fake snuff (Smokey Mountain)  it has been helping a bunch. If you happen to text, send me a message on PM  we can exchange numbers. It's good to have someone there to hold you to your word, shoot a text to for encouragement, etc. Hang in there, We can do this!

[Thumblewort]

Mid-Day 10 (11JAN2016)-So I'm getting laid off soon and have plenty of time to reflect and read quite a bit in the Roll Call for the April Group (no work to be done and I look busy) :-), I'm in a good place and am blessed so don't fret about the getting laid off shit. I plan on putting in some of that Pergo stuff while I'm laying around the house. Shit, better have something to do or I'll go crazy. Quite a bit of drama in the Roll Call Forum, and after reading and contemplating what was being said it seems to me that the last time I stopped using dip if there had been a group like this (not much was on the internet in those days) where you would check in daily and say I'm not using this shit today, I believe I would have never started up again. I think daily reminder is a necessity. What I can tell you is I was off the stuff for a couple of years, yea years and in one moment of stupidity it led to another 15 year stent. Times are approximate, don't bust my balls if I said 13 years in one post and 15 in another.

Some cat fell off the wagon, lied, what the fuck ever and is being called a "TROLL". What the fuck does that mean? You young feller's need to understand that a few old fucks are in here and trying to make heads or tails out your post is quite challenging. For now I have time to kind of dig around and tie the pieces together and come with a story. So perhaps a vocabulary section would be nice. I can't tell you how many times I have to ask all the young people at work what is that? what does this mean? what is that emoti's? and fucking abbreviations are endless.

I got side tracked there. So this is the second time I am really giving it an effort to stop using dip. I actually find it easier this time with this forum. I'll sit here and read stuff about guys going through some really tough symptoms and cravings and kind of think I've got easier than that guy so I have no excuse to start up.

The point in this rant is the time I stopped using I never lost the craving for a dip, don't get me wrong it wasn't everyday and constant and I wasn't in a fog. I'd be sitting around a fire and just hanging out and it would hit, and it was real and powerful. Just a pinch...

So who ever put this thing together thanks. I believe it will make this time easier and longer lasting, I believe the whole roll call thing will be essential in maintenance.

The word Thumblewort mean "Man with Huge Donger" to anyone under 30. Tru dat homie!

[JGlav]

Mid-Day 10 (11JAN2016)-So I'm getting laid off soon and have plenty of time to reflect and read quite a bit in the Roll Call for the April Group (no work to be done and I look busy) :-), I'm in a good place and am blessed so don't fret about the getting laid off shit. I plan on putting in some of that Pergo stuff while I'm laying around the house. Shit, better have something to do or I'll go crazy. Quite a bit of drama in the Roll Call Forum, and after reading and contemplating what was being said it seems to me that the last time I stopped using dip if there had been a group like this (not much was on the internet in those days) where you would check in daily and say I'm not using this shit today, I believe I would have never started up again. I think daily reminder is a necessity. What I can tell you is I was off the stuff for a couple of years, yea years and in one moment of stupidity it led to another 15 year stent. Times are approximate, don't bust my balls if I said 13 years in one post and 15 in another.

Some cat fell off the wagon, lied, what the fuck ever and is being called a "TROLL". What the fuck does that mean? You young feller's need to understand that a few old fucks are in here and trying to make heads or tails out your post is quite challenging. For now I have time to kind of dig around and tie the pieces together and come with a story. So perhaps a vocabulary section would be nice. I can't tell you how many times I have to ask all the young people at work what is that? what does this mean? what is that emoti's? and fucking abbreviations are endless.

I got side tracked there. So this is the second time I am really giving it an effort to stop using dip. I actually find it easier this time with this forum. I'll sit here and read stuff about guys going through some really tough symptoms and cravings and kind of think I've got easier than that guy so I have no excuse to start up.

The point in this rant is the time I stopped using I never lost the craving for a dip, don't get me wrong it wasn't everyday and constant and I wasn't in a fog. I'd be sitting around a fire and just hanging out and it would hit, and it was real and powerful. Just a pinch...

So who ever put this thing together thanks. I believe it will make this time easier and longer lasting, I believe the whole roll call thing will be essential in maintenance.

I was stopped for 5years. Did not know about KTC. One night on drive home I bought a tin. That was a couple years ago. I'm quit now because I make a promise to the guys in my Dec '15 group and all the other
friends I have made here. I would not let them down. That's why people take offense to those who cave. They are pissed that someone would promise one thing and do another, particularly given the tools KTC has in place.
I still get craves. I'm an addict and will always have them. But as long as I promise on roll first thing in the AM, the day is in the bag. I will stick with what works for me and for 495 days I have posted roll in the AM
or asked for help getting on roll if no internet coverage. Glad you are quit Airborne

[Airborne]

Mid-Day 10 (11JAN2016)-So I'm getting laid off soon and have plenty of time to reflect and read quite a bit in the Roll Call for the April Group (no work to be done and I look busy) :-), I'm in a good place and am blessed so don't fret about the getting laid off shit. I plan on putting in some of that Pergo stuff while I'm laying around the house. Shit, better have something to do or I'll go crazy. Quite a bit of drama in the Roll Call Forum, and after reading and contemplating what was being said it seems to me that the last time I stopped using dip if there had been a group like this (not much was on the internet in those days) where you would check in daily and say I'm not using this shit today, I believe I would have never started up again. I think daily reminder is a necessity. What I can tell you is I was off the stuff for a couple of years, yea years and in one moment of stupidity it led to another 15 year stent. Times are approximate, don't bust my balls if I said 13 years in one post and 15 in another.

Some cat fell off the wagon, lied, what the fuck ever and is being called a "TROLL". What the fuck does that mean? You young feller's need to understand that a few old fucks are in here and trying to make heads or tails out your post is quite challenging. For now I have time to kind of dig around and tie the pieces together and come with a story. So perhaps a vocabulary section would be nice. I can't tell you how many times I have to ask all the young people at work what is that? what does this mean? what is that emoti's? and fucking abbreviations are endless.

I got side tracked there. So this is the second time I am really giving it an effort to stop using dip. I actually find it easier this time with this forum. I'll sit here and read stuff about guys going through some really tough symptoms and cravings and kind of think I've got easier than that guy so I have no excuse to start up.

The point in this rant is the time I stopped using I never lost the craving for a dip, don't get me wrong it wasn't everyday and constant and I wasn't in a fog. I'd be sitting around a fire and just hanging out and it would hit, and it was real and powerful. Just a pinch...

So who ever put this thing together thanks. I believe it will make this time easier and longer lasting, I believe the whole roll call thing will be essential in maintenance.

[KingNothing]

KingNothing... No Buzz at all, that went away a long time ago didn't that last about a week into it? I don't know if was just a habit or what, but I like dipping. The last time I stopped using from about '97~'02 I thought about it quite a lot. I missed the shit in my mouth and the flavor the spitting... Right now I'm thinking how great it would be to have a dip in my mouth, a beer in my left hand and a spit can in my right. That sounds like a good time to me. With all that said what I don't like is the addictive part of it. I really didn't enjoy being out on the deer lease and being more worrying about when my dip was running out than hunting. So it pissed me off. If it wasn't addictive I'd be doing it right now.

So there you go, the addictive portion of dipping is what pissed me off enough to stop using. Not all the other stuff involved, I quite enjoyed all that stuff. Dentist said all my gums and stuff are ok, I did spend a bit of time cleaning gums and washing out with Listerine, flossed too daily. So I guess that paid off.

Peace

Air, I appreciate the honesty. First off, I'm glad the addiction (aka slavery) is what drove you to quit. That's what got me here too, and it is great motivation. Second, the reason I am asking you to dig a little deeper into why you "liked" to dip, was because you have to tackle that part head-on. If you allow the romantic aspects of dipping to creep in, it will start to consume all the good reasons you mentioned for quitting. It's not going to happen overnight, but to give yourself the best chance at this, you have to learn to hate nicotine and what it did to you. A spitter in one hand and a beer in the other is a "comfort zone" for you that you allowed to be entrenched into your brain for years. Nicotine slowly started to control the synapses in your brain and before you knew it, nicotine had you believing it was a sort of friend to you. It's bullshit. It's Big Tobacco's #1 trick to keeping you on a leash. If they can keep you believing that dip was your friend and will be there for you when no one else will, they win. They'll steal your hard-earned money to watch you kill yourself. One day you'll back on this intro and realize how deeply you were controlled by nicotine and it will disgust you to your core. The good news is, you will have piled up hundreds of days quit by that time and you will have put that part of you in the past. One day at a time (ODAAT) will get it done.

[Airborne]

Start of Day 10 (11JAN2016)- Not too bad this morning, rolled out of bed took shower, dressed, and ate. Started to drive into to work and that was the first thought of dipping, got to work and "Roll Called". Looked like a shit load of drama was happening on that roll call sheet. I'd say that is an improvement over the previous days, actually a big improvement. I am in the middle of a bunch of stress and for some strange reason I am a bit at ease with it all, hopefully it is not the calm before the storm. I've been staying away from alcohol, seems like I'll drink a few beers and the dip craving goes from a manageable level to feelings of day 1. When I say staying away I mean getting drunk, not having a beer, lets not get carried away.

I appreciate all the stories people post, helps keep things in perspective and I'm not alone.

Peace

PS: I've been real tired lately, at night I just crash hard. That seems to be a perk, I usually am up for hours and have a terrible time falling asleep. Guessing that nicotine has been really fucking with my sleep over the years.

Oh yea, I've been eating everything in sight. No problem, I can go on a diet in a month.