Introduction

[Its_Got2Happen]

Wow, there has been a lot of negative shit on here lately. Starting to see what people mean in saying, "take what you need from the site and leave the rest".

Day 31 one for me today, getting better everyday. I still cannot believe how hard the first 2 weeks were. But on the other hand, if I had any inkling that I could actually do it, I would have done it a long time ago.

I hate seeing people sign up and then drop off. Wish they could only see how possible this is, and how great it is. It has been a great ride so far. I have met quitters from all around the country and they are some damn fine people. I am happy to be quit with you all.

Peace, Ryan

[jhaenel23]

I have been texting back and forth with my spring fishing buddy all day.  Weve been walleye fishing and dipping together for several years.  I have been worried about getting back together with him since I no longer dip.  Turns out he is miserable and wants to quit too, but thinks he cant. 

I don't want to push my quit on him.  I know he's got to want it.  I am just hoping to plant a seed.  I just sent him an email (below), what do you think?  Probably should just leave it alone now and let him reach out if he wants to. 

"Here is it, man, (the allen Carr book).  Good luck man.  I am here to support you.  You can support me too.  I am only 30 days ahead of you.  I have bad news for you about the cutting down method.....it really doesn't work.  I have done it 100 times.  Its a good start, but when your ready, you gotta go all out, balls to the fucking wall, throw the shit out, declare NEVER AGAIN and suck it up.  The withdrawal is really, really shitty.  But the good news is...............you do it only once.  Then you move on with your life, one day at a time.  You can do this man, you are a fucking bad ass, and that is exactly what this takes. 

The cool thing about this book is that the author says, go ahead and keep using until after you finish the book.  I am not sure I suggest that but thats what he says.  I suggest you take a look it.  Also that website I told you about is unbelievable.  Major, major support on there.  Without the support I do not think it would be possible.  www.killthecan.org  Check it out man, just read all you can on there and you will begin to see that you dont need this shit.  It WILL fucking kill you. 

Keep me posted brotha.  Chew or no chew, we gonna get on the river this spring.  If you decide not to quit, just dont offer me any.  I broke outta prison 30 days ago, I am walking back into my cell for nothing. 

Ryan

Amen

Well put brother! He had to quit for him!!

[CleanFuel]

I have been texting back and forth with my spring fishing buddy all day. Weve been walleye fishing and dipping together for several years. I have been worried about getting back together with him since I no longer dip. Turns out he is miserable and wants to quit too, but thinks he cant.

I don't want to push my quit on him. I know he's got to want it. I am just hoping to plant a seed. I just sent him an email (below), what do you think? Probably should just leave it alone now and let him reach out if he wants to.

"Here is it, man, (the allen Carr book). Good luck man. I am here to support you. You can support me too. I am only 30 days ahead of you. I have bad news for you about the cutting down method.....it really doesn't work. I have done it 100 times. Its a good start, but when your ready, you gotta go all out, balls to the fucking wall, throw the shit out, declare NEVER AGAIN and suck it up. The withdrawal is really, really shitty. But the good news is...............you do it only once. Then you move on with your life, one day at a time. You can do this man, you are a fucking bad ass, and that is exactly what this takes.

The cool thing about this book is that the author says, go ahead and keep using until after you finish the book. I am not sure I suggest that but thats what he says. I suggest you take a look it. Also that website I told you about is unbelievable. Major, major support on there. Without the support I do not think it would be possible. www.killthecan.org Check it out man, just read all you can on there and you will begin to see that you dont need this shit. It WILL fucking kill you.

Keep me posted brotha. Chew or no chew, we gonna get on the river this spring. If you decide not to quit, just dont offer me any. I broke outta prison 30 days ago, I am walking back into my cell for nothing.

Ryan

Amen

[Its_Got2Happen]

I have been texting back and forth with my spring fishing buddy all day. Weve been walleye fishing and dipping together for several years. I have been worried about getting back together with him since I no longer dip. Turns out he is miserable and wants to quit too, but thinks he cant.

I don't want to push my quit on him. I know he's got to want it. I am just hoping to plant a seed. I just sent him an email (below), what do you think? Probably should just leave it alone now and let him reach out if he wants to.

"Here is it, man, (the allen Carr book). Good luck man. I am here to support you. You can support me too. I am only 30 days ahead of you. I have bad news for you about the cutting down method.....it really doesn't work. I have done it 100 times. Its a good start, but when your ready, you gotta go all out, balls to the fucking wall, throw the shit out, declare NEVER AGAIN and suck it up. The withdrawal is really, really shitty. But the good news is...............you do it only once. Then you move on with your life, one day at a time. You can do this man, you are a fucking bad ass, and that is exactly what this takes.

The cool thing about this book is that the author says, go ahead and keep using until after you finish the book. I am not sure I suggest that but thats what he says. I suggest you take a look it. Also that website I told you about is unbelievable. Major, major support on there. Without the support I do not think it would be possible. www.killthecan.org Check it out man, just read all you can on there and you will begin to see that you dont need this shit. It WILL fucking kill you.

Keep me posted brotha. Chew or no chew, we gonna get on the river this spring. If you decide not to quit, just dont offer me any. I broke outta prison 30 days ago, I am walking back into my cell for nothing.

Ryan

[Its_Got2Happen]

That fire and hatred will help keep you quit. One warning for now avoid making long term proclamations, concentrate on today. I understand that desire to scream, kick and curse nicotine. For myself and many others the days came that thinking past today became a near-cave experience! Concentrating on today is ALWAYS possible!

I hear ya WT57. and I know that is probably how I should be thinking.

But I quit man and I feel the need to shout it from the roof top sometimes? Isn't there some strength in a proclamation? I do have my guard up bro. Trust me. But I find it to be a bit of a dichotomy to say I quit for today, and not be able to say it with a finality. To me, that has been the strength of my quit. It is the forever affirmations that make THIS different than any other attempt I have ever made. These are the principles and phrases that made me know it was possible this time.

"N.A.F.A.R."
"Shut the door"
Yoda, "do or not do, no try"
"Caving is NOT an option."
etc, I could go on and on.

Not only possible, but simple. Freedom became a just a decision and it was mine for the taking.

I guess maybe all you are saying is ......... each day is new. And that "decision" must be made, not once, but everyday. OK, I got ya.

Or maybe your saying, just shut the hell up newbie and get a couple of months under your belt. Whichever it is, please know that every once of input is appreciated. I read it, hear, reflect upon it and integrate it if it makes sense.

Thanks again for all your responses. I am damn proup to be quit with you WT57.

[Wt57]

That fire and hatred will help keep you quit. One warning for now avoid making long term proclamations, concentrate on today. I understand that desire to scream, kick and curse nicotine. For myself and many others the days came that thinking past today became a near-cave experience! Concentrating on today is ALWAYS possible!

[Its_Got2Happen]

I was physically addicted to a substance and 100% brainwashed about what I thought it did for me. Physically and mentally entangled, trapped and hopeless.
Guess what quit brothers, I am not ruled by a tin can full of shit any longer. I quit. That fucking garbage is out of my life forever.

When I look back at this thread I am embarrassed at the credit I gave nicotine. I don't want to glorify nicotine any longer and talk like life with nicotine was so great. What I realize today is that IT NEVER WAS. And things that were in fact great, did not have a damn motherfucking thing to do with a wad of cancer balled up in my lip.

I thank all of you for your support, comments, advice, etc. And most of all for sharing your experiences. Ryan

Yeah Deisel, I guess I am pissed. More sick and disgusted really. 20+ years I gave to this nic bitch, lying whore addiction. I have directed alot of the anger upon myself lately and even before my quit, but I dont think that is healthy.

Reading alot about the industry and how much they direct marketing to kids. I got started at 12 or 13, when me a buddy used to fill out the card in magazines and get the shit mailed to us. Hawken wintergreen. That was some nasty puke shit. But for reason I always had a can. 1 can used to last a week or more, but we all know how that goes. Some CEO should be locked up for that shit. Actually no, I'd say its more of a capital offense, send in the fucking firing squad. And what about the fucking greedy shlep that sold us cans when they damn well knew were not 18. I would like to pound their heads into the pavement too.

Not sure if getting pissed has alot of value at this point. I guess I will use the anger to keep me quit. Peace all. Keep quitting.

Ryan IG2H

[Diesel2112]

I was physically addicted to a substance and 100% brainwashed about what I thought it did for me.  Physically and mentally entangled, trapped and hopeless.
Guess what quit brothers, I am not ruled by a tin can full of shit any longer.  I quit.  That fucking garbage is out of my life forever. 

When I look back at this thread I am embarrassed at the credit I gave nicotine.  I don't want to glorify nicotine any longer and talk like life with nicotine was so great.  What I realize today is that IT NEVER WAS.  And things that were in fact great, did not have a damn motherfucking thing to do with a wad of cancer balled up in my lip.

I thank all of you for your support, comments, advice, etc.  And most of all for sharing your experiences.  Ryan

True dat, yo. Building some hate. I like it.

[Its_Got2Happen]

I was physically addicted to a substance and 100% brainwashed about what I thought it did for me. Physically and mentally entangled, trapped and hopeless.
Guess what quit brothers, I am not ruled by a tin can full of shit any longer. I quit. That fucking garbage is out of my life forever.

When I look back at this thread I am embarrassed at the credit I gave nicotine. I don't want to glorify nicotine any longer and talk like life with nicotine was so great. What I realize today is that IT NEVER WAS. And things that were in fact great, did not have a damn motherfucking thing to do with a wad of cancer balled up in my lip.

I thank all of you for your support, comments, advice, etc. And most of all for sharing your experiences. Ryan

[Mthomas3824]

Well it appears I can drink again......as long as I have a big wad of shredded jerkey to suck on.  I never felt compelled to try the fake dip shit but I dig this jerky. Felt good to have a few IPAs last night but damn it did provoke some craves.

I survived but definitely need to proceed cautiously.

I warn you, Icarus, to fly a middle course
Don't go too low or the water will weigh down your wings.
Don't go too high or the sun will burn them
Keep to the middle way. And one more thing:
No fancy steering by star or constellation.
Follow (our) lead!

I approve this message!!!!!

Vets have never lead me astray. They never lead me astray.

If Wastepanel comments to you, Know that he believes in you and that you are worth his time.

Stay worth his time by following orders. He knows his shit. He knows agony and perfect victory.

Listen and follow. Period!!!!

We are all rooting for you! We believe in you but you have a lot to learn as well.

Keep your head up and nose down. You are still a novice. #1 are you calling for support when you are in a fight? I worry that you think it is a bad ass to fight on your own and resist evil. Early on, just make a call out for help. See how much stronger you are with a team to call.

[wastepanel]

Well it appears I can drink again......as long as I have a big wad of shredded jerkey to suck on. I never felt compelled to try the fake dip shit but I dig this jerky. Felt good to have a few IPAs last night but damn it did provoke some craves.

I survived but definitely need to proceed cautiously.

I warn you, Icarus, to fly a middle course
Don't go too low or the water will weigh down your wings.
Don't go too high or the sun will burn them
Keep to the middle way. And one more thing:
No fancy steering by star or constellation.
Follow (our) lead!

[Its_Got2Happen]

Well it appears I can drink again......as long as I have a big wad of shredded jerkey to suck on. I never felt compelled to try the fake dip shit but I dig this jerky. Felt good to have a few IPAs last night but damn it did provoke some craves.

I survived but definitely need to proceed cautiously.

[Diesel2112]

I have a calmness today that I have not felt in a long while. Today I am not a slave to this addiction. I am still an addict and must not forget that, but I am not owned and controlled by a can. I am in control of my actions and decisions and today I choose QUIT. Seeing all these day 1 quitters inspires me to march onward. Life with freedom is greater than life in bondage.

Keep your guard up and keep on rolling. Good work.

[Mthomas3824]

I have a calmness today that I have not felt in a long while. Today I am not a slave to this addiction. I am still an addict and must not forget that, but I am not owned and controlled by a can.   I am in control of my actions and decisions and today I choose QUIT. Seeing all these day 1 quitters inspires me to march onward.  Life with freedom is greater than life in bondage.

When times are good, we practice for those inevitable bad times.

When times are bad, we react and we lean on what we've practiced and learned.

Great attitude. I'm very proud of you.

:wub: this post. Good job

'Popcorn'

Good quit going on. Going to love to watch the growth through good and bad times. I'm betting this one is in it to win. Makes me so happy to see this. Today is a good quit day.

[Skoal Monster]

I have a calmness today that I have not felt in a long while. Today I am not a slave to this addiction. I am still an addict and must not forget that, but I am not owned and controlled by a can.  I am in control of my actions and decisions and today I choose QUIT. Seeing all these day 1 quitters inspires me to march onward.  Life with freedom is greater than life in bondage.

When times are good, we practice for those inevitable bad times.

When times are bad, we react and we lean on what we've practiced and learned.

Great attitude. I'm very proud of you.

:wub: this post. Good job