My good cave

[Wt57]

I'm just really glad that I live so far from store, on Sunday the closest chew is 150 mile round trip.

Wow, you're 75 miles from the nearest store? Where the heck do you live?

the middle of nowhere and then take a left

Isnt that just south of Wherethehellami ave.?

Actually it's north

[Grizzly25]

I'm just really glad that I live so far from store, on Sunday the closest chew is 150 mile round trip.

Wow, you're 75 miles from the nearest store? Where the heck do you live?

the middle of nowhere and then take a left

Isnt that just south of Wherethehellami ave.?

[Wt57]

I'm just really glad that I live so far from store, on Sunday the closest chew is 150 mile round trip.

Wow, you're 75 miles from the nearest store? Where the heck do you live?

the middle of nowhere and then take a left

[rgross298]

I'm just really glad that I live so far from store, on Sunday the closest chew is 150 mile round trip.

Wow, you're 75 miles from the nearest store? Where the heck do you live?

[Wt57]

Ive been feeling really good the past few days only mild craves. This morning was great. Then out of nowhere, no trigger, nothing BAM I got hit by a huge crave. I'm not in danger because I quit today but it was so fricking big that I wasn't prepared for it. My commitment to quit is bigger than that SOB.

thank god for the high price of gas

I've been trying to understand this massive crave today don't know of any trigger, I'm just really glad that I live so far from store, on Sunday the closest chew is 150 mile round trip. Not that I haven't made the trip before only for a can; KTC, my commitment this morning, my new found integrity, the price of gas, my wife, and grand kids help me keep my promise to quit all day today!!
Thank You

[rangy96]

ONE DAY AT A TIME
I'm only human; I'm just a man
Help me believe in what I could be and all that I am
Show me the stairway
I have to climb
Lord for my sake
Teach me to take
One day at a time

One day at a time, sweet Jesus
That's all I'm asking from you
Give me the strength to do everything that I have to do
Yesterday's gone sweet Jesus
And tomorrow may never be mine
Help me today
Show me the way
One day at a time.

Could you remember
When you walked among men
Jesus, you know when you're looking below
It's worse now than then
Pushin' and shovin' crowd in your mind
Lord for my sake
Teach me to take
One day at a time

My grandmother used to sing this and play it on the piano all the time. I had forgotten. Seeing a these words brought a flood of stuff.

I am quit today. One day at a time.


Thanks for making me remember.

[Wt57]

Ive been feeling really good the past few days only mild craves. This morning was great. Then out of nowhere, no trigger, nothing BAM I got hit by a huge crave. I'm not in danger because I quit today but it was so fricking big that I wasn't prepared for it. My commitment to quit is bigger than that SOB.

[Leahy16]

Congrats WT!!!   The first two weeks are the hardest.  You're off to a great start.  But remember, that's all it is...a start.  It sounds like you know already, but quitting is done one day at a time.  Stay strong and stay quit, brother.

You've been here for two weeks already? Wow that went fast. For me at least. Nice work this is therapy for all of us.

Actually day 13 but I look at the day before I quit as a pivotal day in my life. I did a lot of deep soul searching that day paced the floor for hours, read KTC and prayed for strength. I know that I was lead into this new life by God and all of you my quit family. Thanks again.

The freedom from that crap is great isn't it? Never forget that you thought you couldn't live without the can. Never forget what it feels like to step up and be a man and conquer that shit.

You are kicking ass. Keep it up.

Quit for today...just today.

[Wt57]

Congrats WT!!!  The first two weeks are the hardest.  You're off to a great start.  But remember, that's all it is...a start.  It sounds like you know already, but quitting is done one day at a time.  Stay strong and stay quit, brother.

You've been here for two weeks already? Wow that went fast. For me at least. Nice work this is therapy for all of us.

Actually day 13 but I look at the day before I quit as a pivotal day in my life. I did a lot of deep soul searching that day paced the floor for hours, read KTC and prayed for strength. I know that I was lead into this new life by God and all of you my quit family. Thanks again.

[Grizzly25]

Fellow quitters:  My mind is beginning to clear, I'm seeing thing that I haven't seen for alooong time.  I've been trying to decide how I want to track my quit.  I've read a lot of others experiences, their logs, journal etc.  like everything I read.  I see several purpose, therapy for myself, help other and hell sometime it's just funny.

My reflection on the past 14 days: day before my quit was hell I really didn't want to quit (not true).  I was afraid to quit, I didn't know how to live without tabacco, I really never have. 

Day 1-11 of my quit yo-yo in the dark.  Too many different emotions to express.  Not alone though KTC friend have been great!

Day 12  yesterday the sun has begun to rise, it is like a beautiful morning watching the fog lift.  I see how fresh everything looks and smells.  I also see patches of fog lingering about, some still quite dense.  I look forward to watching these patches lift.  I feel wonderful today, but like my granddad always said when we left on a long day of horse back ride ( don't forget your slicker "raincoat") you never know when a storm will come up out of nowhere.  I feel very good today but I have my slicker.  KTC is One of my slickers.

Day 14 the 13th day of my quit.  I just got through watching the sun rise in the east on a new day.  It is beautiful, I feel confident in my quit.  As I talk I'm keeping a eye on the western sky there are some suspicious clouds.  Thanks to all of you I'm bracing myself if a storm forms today.

Great first hurdle!!! 'Cheers'


Enjoy the early success and have it build resove and commitment!!! 'party2'

Great work getting the badass quit going well!!!!

Stay focused and stay QUIT!!!

[Mthomas3824]

Congrats WT!!! The first two weeks are the hardest. You're off to a great start. But remember, that's all it is...a start. It sounds like you know already, but quitting is done one day at a time. Stay strong and stay quit, brother.

You've been here for two weeks already? Wow that went fast. For me at least. Nice work this is therapy for all of us.

[Bean]

Congrats WT!!! The first two weeks are the hardest. You're off to a great start. But remember, that's all it is...a start. It sounds like you know already, but quitting is done one day at a time. Stay strong and stay quit, brother.

[Wt57]

Fellow quitters: My mind is beginning to clear, I'm seeing thing that I haven't seen for alooong time. I've been trying to decide how I want to track my quit. I've read a lot of others experiences, their logs, journal etc. like everything I read. I see several purpose, therapy for myself, help other and hell sometime it's just funny.

My reflection on the past 14 days: day before my quit was hell I really didn't want to quit (not true). I was afraid to quit, I didn't know how to live without tabacco, I really never have.

Day 1-11 of my quit yo-yo in the dark. Too many different emotions to express. Not alone though KTC friend have been great!

Day 12 yesterday the sun has begun to rise, it is like a beautiful morning watching the fog lift. I see how fresh everything looks and smells. I also see patches of fog lingering about, some still quite dense. I look forward to watching these patches lift. I feel wonderful today, but like my granddad always said when we left on a long day of horse back ride ( don't forget your slicker "raincoat") you never know when a storm will come up out of nowhere. I feel very good today but I have my slicker. KTC is One of my slickers.

Day 14 the 13th day of my quit. I just got through watching the sun rise in the east on a new day. It is beautiful, I feel confident in my quit. As I talk I'm keeping a eye on the western sky there are some suspicious clouds. Thanks to all of you I'm bracing myself if a storm forms today.

[El Barto]

wt,

You were the first one on this site to contact me as well. Im no veteran, but I have worked with quite a few patients who used tobacco up until the day they die. Lets not kid ourselves, quitting is really f-ing hard.

I wouldn't look at the ones who cave as failures on your part-just think about the difference you are making in the lives of those who stay quit.

That goes for everyone who posts on this forum. There are a lot of people out there who say they want to help their fellow man, want to be the hero, save lives, what have you. Then they miss the meaning that a simple word of encouragement can have when someone is going through tough times.

The support I have found on this forum has made a meaningful difference in my life so far. Keep up the good work!

[T-Cell]

Ive got a question for a vet, preferably one that is older. 
I am very strongly committed to my quit, I will be here every morning and promise myself, you other addicts and also I promise my wife of 32 years no more lies.  My delima is that I look at other quitter especialllly new ones, and especially if they are younger,   I try to get to know right away.  I want to just shake the shit out of them and show them what that shit has done to my life and strengthen their committment.  Now the true problem a couple times Ive done this and granted its only 10 days, but they have caved and I feel in some way that I have failed.  I know I didnt put that shit in their mouth but I wonder if I could have done more.  I almost feel the need to help some them to make up for my past failures, almost like a parent living the life they wish they had had through their children.  I know that my mane concern is my own quit but it just keeps eating at me.  Well so much for my rambling. Ill take any advise or suggestions.

Here are a couple of thoughts from a dude who caved....

First, there was nothing you could have done to stop me from caving when I did.

Guys tried - They texted and called and left messages and shit.

But I ignored them and caved.

Get your head around this, bro...

Your help is strong and alive, but it's here.

We all make it clear that the help lives here.

You're willing to give it but dudes have to show up and take it for it to work.

Own this - There's only so much you can do.

Thank you for keeping your help alive and working, bro.

Somebody's going to need it, but they're going to have to reach for it, at least halfway.

WT- I'm no sage vet, but I think SWJ is dead on. People have to want to be helped for help to be effective. You can't own other peoples caves or screw-ups. All you can do is chose for yourself, and be there to help if they ask for it and especially after they start over again. It is hard not to take it personally when someone you've talked to or gotten to know caves, but helping others stay tight always helps your own quit...