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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #176 on: Today at 12:37:16 AM »
What's up fellas. I have an odd type of question and am looking for someone who may have experienced this before. Been dipping for 15+ years. I recently stopped drinking, but just about every time I put a dip in I get terrible anxiety, shaking, extremely sweaty hands. Not to mention my bp goes up much farther than before, to around 140+/95 or 100. This has been consistent for months now. Body still craves dip, but once I pack one in I get those terrible symptoms. Don't get me wrong, my goal is to quit, but I'm hoping there's someone out there who has experienced this and might have some extra insight.
@Xiipher was it also your goal to "quit" back in September of 2017 when you quit stopped for about a week before going radio silent?

Are you just trying to explain your symptoms? Or do you actually want to be quit? Sounds like most of your problems would go away if you stopped poisoning yourself with nicotine. Just think, you could be almost 3 years quit right now and not dealing with any of this shit (or at least not to such a degree).

So what say you? You going to sack up and quit this time? Let's start by posting roll early, every damn day and focus on keeping that promise 24 hours at a time.  There is an army of people here ready to help you out but you have to take the first step and do this for yourself. We can't quit for you but we can help you along the way. Please start by answering the three questions: 1.) What happened? 2.) Why did it happen? 3.) What are you going to do differently this time?

(Also, you need to send me a PM so we can get you back on your original account. Multiple accounts are never allowed here at KTC since honesty, transparency and accountability are foundational aspects of the site.)
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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #175 on: August 03, 2020, 08:31:26 PM »
What's up fellas. I have an odd type of question and am looking for someone who may have experienced this before. Been dipping for 15+ years. I recently stopped drinking, but just about every time I put a dip in I get terrible anxiety, shaking, extremely sweaty hands. Not to mention my bp goes up much farther than before, to around 140+/95 or 100. This has been consistent for months now. Body still craves dip, but once I pack one in I get those terrible symptoms. Don't get me wrong, my goal is to quit, but I'm hoping there's someone out there who has experienced this and might have some extra insight.

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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #174 on: August 02, 2020, 09:41:27 AM »
How does everybody get threw the sick ness feeling and brain fog

SHUTUPANFISH. Day 7 here so im probaly not much help but i drink a lot of coffee and just try to keep calm and distracted. It helps to have someone who understands what your going through. I have a co-worker an freind who lets me bitch an rant an listens but he also tells me when im being a dumbass.
 Its hard though, i keep telling myself "this really sucks and isnt worth it"  but then i think the only thing worse would be to have to go through it all again if i cave now. Good luck brother, im rooting for you!

Hey @Ellery you've got some good advice here from @Shutupanfish - having someone you can vent to is one of the BEST things you can do... and you're in the best place to do it. There are THOUSANDS of quitters here that 'get it' and we'll tell it to you straight.

Chatting on the forums, or on live chat, the main site, our social channels, etc. is a GREAT distraction from the day to day early quit craves.

Take it one day, one hour, one minute at at time if necessary... those +1's will begin to add up to a PILE of quit before you know it.

Hang in there.

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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #173 on: August 01, 2020, 11:57:15 AM »
How does everybody get threw the sick ness feeling and brain fog

SHUTUPANFISH. Day 7 here so im probaly not much help but i drink a lot of coffee and just try to keep calm and distracted. It helps to have someone who understands what your going through. I have a co-worker an freind who lets me bitch an rant an listens but he also tells me when im being a dumbass.
 Its hard though, i keep telling myself "this really sucks and isnt worth it"  but then i think the only thing worse would be to have to go through it all again if i cave now. Good luck brother, im rooting for you!

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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #172 on: July 28, 2020, 06:43:13 PM »
How does everybody get threw the sick ness feeling and brain fog

@Ellery

We do it One Day at a Time.

The process here is really simple:

1. Wake Up
2. Piss
3. Post your promise to remain nicotine free for the next 24 hours
4. Keep your word
5. Repeat Daily

The place to post your promise is Here if you quit on or after 7/25/2020.  If you quit a little earlier than that, then your group is Here.

Either way, you need to go post your promise to remain nicotine free.  This site is based on accountability and keeping our word to one another.  We do that one day at a time, only focusing on today.  Worry about tomorrow when tomorrow gets here.

As you already know, it is not going to be easy, but I promise you it will be worth the suck you are going through now.  We have all been there and know exactly what you are going through. 

Once you get into your group, start exchanging phone numbers with other quitters in there as well as some vets.  This is how we keep each other accountable.  It also gives you instant access to support when you need it.  Yes, it may feel strange reaching out to a complete stranger on the phone, but I assure you, it is 1000% better than giving in to the cancer can.

My digits are always available for the asking.  Only exchange phone numbers through the private message feature of this forum.

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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #171 on: July 28, 2020, 05:39:46 PM »
How does everybody get threw the sick ness feeling and brain fog

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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #170 on: July 18, 2020, 11:12:42 AM »
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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #169 on: July 18, 2020, 11:00:45 AM »
Hi all, can you use Tapatalk for the forum?  I can't find it.  Thanks.
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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #168 on: July 17, 2020, 04:17:52 PM »
Hi all, can you use Tapatalk for the forum?  I can't find it.  Thanks.
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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #167 on: July 17, 2020, 03:44:18 PM »
Hi all, can you use Tapatalk for the forum?  I can't find it.  Thanks.

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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #166 on: July 09, 2020, 12:21:08 PM »
This... is... amazing.

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« Reply #165 on: July 09, 2020, 10:29:35 AM »
The first time, I just wanted
To be cool, fat lip good ol’ boy.
Looking back, I was just
A fool, another Big Tobacco toy
In the making.

Got me drunk, made me swoon,
Liked that feeling, howled at the moon,
Swiped another can, too young to buy,
Now thief and liar, was once a good guy.

Down the road, left the can and
Picked up the pack.
Smoked like a chimney,
Not minding the nicotine attack.

A promise years later to be
A better man,
Put down the pack for good, but picked up
The can.

Needed the nic, or at least so
I thought.
No telling through the years
How many rolls of death I bought.

Wasted my money, ignored looks from my peers,
Never thinking of quitting, never believing
My own fears.
What led me here wasn’t a doc
Or the sight of gross spit;
A bump on my gum
Scared me to quit.

Seeing the look in my wife’s loving eyes
Was enough to finally
Stop living the lies
The Nic bitch was whispering
Each day in my ear:
“You need me, you want me;
There’s nothing to fear.”

I talked to my dentist and
Found Kill The Can.
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Make me a real man.
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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #164 on: July 06, 2020, 12:34:43 PM »
: Hi all I am about 90+ days of tobacco free after chewing for 15 years.  Over the last 3 months I have made a trip to the ER also saw a family doctor and also been the urgent care with the same issue I am having a loud beating heart fluttering feels like I'm having a heart attack and it's terrible.  I've had three EKGs and they became perfectly fine my blood pressure is perfect and my blood work was perfect.  I'm a healthy in shape human being and still have constant chest palpitations or feel like I do.  can you guys please help me out I'm really struggling these last couple days and have not slept in the last 24 hours

07-05 14:27Cimms119: My anxiety was so bad that my left arm was getting numb and it felt like I wasn't able to breath.

07-05 14:27Cimms119: Doc put me on BusPar which it seems to help but I can't sleep whatsover.  I've read a bunch of info on this site of the last few days and it may be what I am experiencing
@Cimms119  I am not a doctor (glad you have sought out medical advice). But what you are describing sounds to me like a textbook case of panic attacks and severe anxiety.  It is VERY common to have heightened levels of anxiety, often for some time, after quitting.  I certainly had to manage them for a while.  This will pass in time.

I took myself to the ER twice during my quit cause I thought I was having a heart attack.  I remember it very vividly.  I was laying on the floor watching TV and my chest was on fire from reflux.  In addition, my left arm/hand was numb (which as you know is a classic symptom of a heart attack).  Naturally, at this point I started to freak out and took my pulse, which at this point was through the roof as well cause I was stressing out.  Took myself to the ER, got an EKG and everything checked out perfectly.  They gave me some stuff to get the reflux attack under control and sent me home.  Turned out it was "just" anxiety do to my quit.
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In the beginning, my anxiety was horrible.  Made me come to the conclusion that I had been using tobacco as my own form of Prozac.  My doctor gave me a script for Wellbutrin for about 8 weeks and it was like a miracle taking away almost all of the anxiety (with no side effects).  I know all drugs don't work the same for everybody, but it may be worth a shot.
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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #163 on: July 06, 2020, 11:48:39 AM »
: Hi all I am about 90+ days of tobacco free after chewing for 15 years.  Over the last 3 months I have made a trip to the ER also saw a family doctor and also been the urgent care with the same issue I am having a loud beating heart fluttering feels like I'm having a heart attack and it's terrible.  I've had three EKGs and they became perfectly fine my blood pressure is perfect and my blood work was perfect.  I'm a healthy in shape human being and still have constant chest palpitations or feel like I do.  can you guys please help me out I'm really struggling these last couple days and have not slept in the last 24 hours

07-05 14:27Cimms119: My anxiety was so bad that my left arm was getting numb and it felt like I wasn't able to breath.

07-05 14:27Cimms119: Doc put me on BusPar which it seems to help but I can't sleep whatsover.  I've read a bunch of info on this site of the last few days and it may be what I am experiencing
@Cimms119  I am not a doctor (glad you have sought out medical advice). But what you are describing sounds to me like a textbook case of panic attacks and severe anxiety.  It is VERY common to have heightened levels of anxiety, often for some time, after quitting.  I certainly had to manage them for a while.  This will pass in time.

I took myself to the ER twice during my quit cause I thought I was having a heart attack.  I remember it very vividly.  I was laying on the floor watching TV and my chest was on fire from reflux.  In addition, my left arm/hand was numb (which as you know is a classic symptom of a heart attack).  Naturally, at this point I started to freak out and took my pulse, which at this point was through the roof as well cause I was stressing out.  Took myself to the ER, got an EKG and everything checked out perfectly.  They gave me some stuff to get the reflux attack under control and sent me home.  Turned out it was "just" anxiety do to my quit. 
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44th Floor - 8.9.18 / 45th Floor - 11.17.18 / 46th Floor - 2.25.19 / 47th Floor - 6.5.19 / 48th Floor - 9.13.19 / 49th Floor - 12.22.19 / 5K - 4.1.20 / 51st Floor - 7.9.20
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Re: General Discussion - 2020
« Reply #162 on: July 05, 2020, 09:37:27 PM »
: Hi all I am about 90+ days of tobacco free after chewing for 15 years.  Over the last 3 months I have made a trip to the ER also saw a family doctor and also been the urgent care with the same issue I am having a loud beating heart fluttering feels like I'm having a heart attack and it's terrible.  I've had three EKGs and they became perfectly fine my blood pressure is perfect and my blood work was perfect.  I'm a healthy in shape human being and still have constant chest palpitations or feel like I do.  can you guys please help me out I'm really struggling these last couple days and have not slept in the last 24 hours

07-05 14:27Cimms119: My anxiety was so bad that my left arm was getting numb and it felt like I wasn't able to breath.

07-05 14:27Cimms119: Doc put me on BusPar which it seems to help but I can't sleep whatsover.  I've read a bunch of info on this site of the last few days and it may be what I am experiencing
@Cimms119  I am not a doctor (glad you have sought out medical advice). But what you are describing sounds to me like a textbook case of panic attacks and severe anxiety.  It is VERY common to have heightened levels of anxiety, often for some time, after quitting.  I certainly had to manage them for a while.  This will pass in time. 
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