the hold this addiction and the nic b*tch has on you is amazing....I feel like I have more cravings now than I did when I first quit. The fog might have been a factor then, but the last two weeks I've had cravings what feels like every two days
Also what I thought cravings would be like and what they are actually like are two different things. I thought they’d be more mental (at times they can be) but I’ve had a lot of physical cravings of my mouth feeling off until I throw fake dip in and then things feel fine afterwards
I'm 158 days in and my mouth is still fucky. I don't get why.
I would assume that our mouth/mind still isn't used to not doing something we did for years/decades. Plenty of veterans attest it does get better. I'm just amazed and how my body has reacted. I always assumed in the past, quitting would entail being stronger than a mental urge but its been so much more than that
Just don't go wandering off into the woods for 3 days like WrestlingAddiction did.
I will tell you that the years of damage we did to our mouths and bodies is going to take a hell of a lot longer to correct than 100, 200 days. I would bet that there is a mathematical formula for it.
Way to keep holding the line Mac! You are a beacon of light for all of us quitters. We all feel/felt those same pains.
It gets better. Trust me. PTBQWYT.
-Jeff
378 days for me and I still feel that way with the mouth. I had actually quit fake for a month in my early 200's to get my reflux in check and that was just as bad as first 30 days. I like to have the fake but it does instigate my reflux from either the cayenne in smokey mountain or the vinegar in baccoff. I had a vet in the comma club tell me he even has the fog and craves show up so it happens. It does get easier and I know because now I can fight thru even without the fake but it does make it better. Keep pushing thru knowing that it gets better and will be easier. Keep posting here and don't be afraid to reach out to others if you have their digits. Find an outlet even if it distracts you for a few minutes and set goals for yourself. I drive alot for my job and I had set mileage goals the first year because staring at that windshield really sucked for distractions. We have some great people here that are willing to help and if you need anything let me know. Now I will copy what Jeff did and put my name below which I like as its more personal that way.
Doug
y’all are some badass quitters , we in the suck and that’s sucks #suckon Mac suckon! -nick-
I’m kinda diggin’ this little convo. It 100% reminds us old heads of that part of quitting we do NOT want to have to deal with again!
Funks suck.
Healing sucks.
White knuckling sucks.
But as has been said... if you want freedom from this you have to pay the price. What you guys are going through is forging your quit for the rest of your lives and... your personality in a way that will constantly be revealing itself. Each quitters timeline is so different. I wish there WAS a sharply defined timeline we could get out there... it certainly would feel better than just a “hang in there” sometimes but... life ain’t tidy like that.
It gets better.
It really does.
And in ways that will surprise you.
I finally felt solid close to the time I hit 500ish. Like... ok, yeah, this is easy. This is goooood. I’m about a HOF away from 3,000 right now and let me tell ya... it’s no effort to be quit. I’m done “quitting”... I’m Quit. Easy is the wrong word anymore because, like you guys are doing now, I put in the work and I mucked through the suck and I owned it. Easy? Nah... normal. The new normal, I guess.
Anyway... I ramble. Rock on, bros. QLF.
Some days are better than others. But that's how life is in general. I'm still adjusting to the new normal and adjusting to it. glad to be apart of this brotherhood. for sure don't ever want to have to deal with this ever again and I am still in the midst of it.
It does get better. We conditioned our bodies to want the dip, and the dip conditioned our minds to need the nicotine. Man, it's a wicked cycle. We do it because. I couldn't tell you the last time I got that good relaxed, almost buzzing feeling from dip. It was years, I'm sure, mainly because I never let myself go too long without a dip. Not even while I was asleep.
You may be in the midst of a royal mindfuck right now. The Nic bitch is crazy; she's whispering in your ear one minute, tickling your lip the next, and winding up to punch you in the skull when you don't give in.
Don't listen to the whisper. Ignore that tickle. Take that beating. With every daily promise, with every HOF speech read, with every text with a KTC brother or sister, you are getting stronger and solidifying your quit. You're right. Day 1 again? Fuck that. Be here, where you are, today. That's all that matters. PTBQWY.
