General Discussion - 2012

[30yraddict]

So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?

What part of BANNED don't you understand?

BWB, that's like your neighbor telling you to feel free to use his pool anytime and then inviting over someone you know to be unwelcome at your neighbor's house.

I get all of that, read the rest of it, seriously read the rest of it!

you are right. it is a circus cause dumbass keep posting tex and his bullshit. u state that you understand banning, but then you still chat with tex. I am not sure you really understand it. way to support the site and the leadership.

bottom line... The Mod/Admin team collectively decided to move on without Tex. We are SURE that is the correct direction for the site and it's members. As long as Tex continues to sneak in the back door and be enabled and empowered to do so, the wound will perpetually be open, and no healing will be possible. Not good for any of us. I would ask anyone who has continued contact with tex to encourage him to leave this site completely, so that we can all get back to the business of quitting and encouraging others to do the same.

Thank you.

[bman50317]

So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?

What part of BANNED don't you understand?

BWB, that's like your neighbor telling you to feel free to use his pool anytime and then inviting over someone you know to be unwelcome at your neighbor's house.

I get all of that, read the rest of it, seriously read the rest of it!

you are right. it is a circus cause dumbass keep posting tex and his bullshit. u state that you understand banning, but then you still chat with tex. I am not sure you really understand it. way to support the site and the leadership.

[bigwhitebeast]

So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?

What part of BANNED don't you understand?

BWB, that's like your neighbor telling you to feel free to use his pool anytime and then inviting over someone you know to be unwelcome at your neighbor's house.

I get all of that, read the rest of it, seriously read the rest of it!

[G]

So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?

What part of BANNED don't you understand?

BWB, that's like your neighbor telling you to feel free to use his pool anytime and then inviting over someone you know to be unwelcome at your neighbor's house.

[30yraddict]

So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?

What part of BANNED don't you understand?

[bigwhitebeast]

So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address? I saw him in chat once, we had a nice private conversation, maybe you should ban me?

What the fuck is going on around here? Mods changing roll call in February 2012, Pista telling people he is something special and not to mess with him in November?? WTF? Is this how it is? MODS are something special and the rest of us are just shit stains? Answer that for me please!

Something really fucked up is taking place here and it smells like shit, I understand people need to be banned, I understand people need to be moderators and I understand I need to know my place but the hypocrisy is really unbelievable, seriously part of the initial Tex ban conversation revolved around altering roll call and then some mod changes the shit!

It really is a circus, I have seen it a couple times now, realize that this site isn't about you (mods)and is about US.

Don't want to post this but good people are getting pissed and thinking about quitting, lets get over ourselves and realize others need help.

[flash]

Regarding PERSONAL CHAT:

This has been a very valuable tool in helping and encouraging new quitters.  Please make sure you are not over reacting to the misuse of a few by turning it off.  Don't let the tail wag the dog.

Thanks.

Keddy - you make a very valid point. And one that didn't go unnoticed when we made the decision. I'd like to personally apologize to the folks that use the chat the RIGHT way. It's not your fault. You guys are building a brotherhood, supporting new quitters and using the chat the way it was intended. Thank you and I'm sorry.

I full recognize that this next section may piss some people off. At this point, I don't care.

Dear Tex (and a few others)... this is because of you. Congratulations. You've succeeded in "ruining it for everyone" with your bullshit antics. For a site you seem to hate you sure spend an awful lot of time sticking around and reading stuff. You sure expel quite a bit of energy going into chat, coming on the boards and making sure that people know you're still around. Wow... you can change your IP address and spoof a bunch of email addresses. You sir are one bad ass hacker. Has Apple called you yet? You must be so proud.

You've got friends who add your name/number to a line making a mockery of the site. In my opinion that shit should stop. But roll is sacred round these parts, and if you guys want to make a mockery of your roll call, that's your choice. Believe me... I can understand why your quit brothers would be pissed that you're not here anymore. They're your brothers, and they feel that we've done something wrong by keeping you away from the site. But by you continuing to be here, you're taking time away from the process of quitting. You've wasted more mod  admin time than anyone in recent memory. Congratulations... you're the worst kind of troll. That said, I feel bad for you. My 4 year old thinks what you're doing is childish. Oh well...

I'll be honest here. There was a time when I thought that we may have made a mistake in banning you. You sure did have a lot of support. You had people coming out of the woodwork telling us to give you another chance and we'd see. But what you've done by not just going away gracefully is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind that we absolutely made the right call. These days, we need to waste time keeping you off the site when we should be dealing with helping new quitters and growing the site.

I've wasted enough time typing this response. I fully realize that I'm breaking the first rule of dealing with trolls: "Don't feed the trolls." For now, I'll go back to my cave and talk with the rest of the admins about how best to exact random rules on unsuspecting members. Apparently we're good at that.

I'll be expecting your new site which is run infinitely better than this to pop up any day in Google.

Love,
chewie

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Thank you to all on this site, Members, Mods and Admins, who are busy rowing the boat instead of rocking it. Lives are at stake. I don't want it on anyone's conscious if we miss one.

[30yraddict]

Regarding PERSONAL CHAT:

This has been a very valuable tool in helping and encouraging new quitters.  Please make sure you are not over reacting to the misuse of a few by turning it off.  Don't let the tail wag the dog.

Thanks.

Keddy - you make a very valid point. And one that didn't go unnoticed when we made the decision. I'd like to personally apologize to the folks that use the chat the RIGHT way. It's not your fault. You guys are building a brotherhood, supporting new quitters and using the chat the way it was intended. Thank you and I'm sorry.

I full recognize that this next section may piss some people off. At this point, I don't care.

Dear Tex (and a few others)... this is because of you. Congratulations. You've succeeded in "ruining it for everyone" with your bullshit antics. For a site you seem to hate you sure spend an awful lot of time sticking around and reading stuff. You sure expel quite a bit of energy going into chat, coming on the boards and making sure that people know you're still around. Wow... you can change your IP address and spoof a bunch of email addresses. You sir are one bad ass hacker. Has Apple called you yet? You must be so proud.

You've got friends who add your name/number to a line making a mockery of the site. In my opinion that shit should stop. But roll is sacred round these parts, and if you guys want to make a mockery of your roll call, that's your choice. Believe me... I can understand why your quit brothers would be pissed that you're not here anymore. They're your brothers, and they feel that we've done something wrong by keeping you away from the site. But by you continuing to be here, you're taking time away from the process of quitting. You've wasted more mod  admin time than anyone in recent memory. Congratulations... you're the worst kind of troll. That said, I feel bad for you. My 4 year old thinks what you're doing is childish. Oh well...

I'll be honest here. There was a time when I thought that we may have made a mistake in banning you. You sure did have a lot of support. You had people coming out of the woodwork telling us to give you another chance and we'd see. But what you've done by not just going away gracefully is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind that we absolutely made the right call. These days, we need to waste time keeping you off the site when we should be dealing with helping new quitters and growing the site.

I've wasted enough time typing this response. I fully realize that I'm breaking the first rule of dealing with trolls: "Don't feed the trolls." For now, I'll go back to my cave and talk with the rest of the admins about how best to exact random rules on unsuspecting members. Apparently we're good at that.

I'll be expecting your new site which is run infinitely better than this to pop up any day in Google.

Love,
chewie

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[Franpro]

Regarding PERSONAL CHAT:

This has been a very valuable tool in helping and encouraging new quitters.  Please make sure you are not over reacting to the misuse of a few by turning it off.  Don't let the tail wag the dog.

Thanks.

Keddy - you make a very valid point. And one that didn't go unnoticed when we made the decision. I'd like to personally apologize to the folks that use the chat the RIGHT way. It's not your fault. You guys are building a brotherhood, supporting new quitters and using the chat the way it was intended. Thank you and I'm sorry.

I full recognize that this next section may piss some people off. At this point, I don't care.

Dear Tex (and a few others)... this is because of you. Congratulations. You've succeeded in "ruining it for everyone" with your bullshit antics. For a site you seem to hate you sure spend an awful lot of time sticking around and reading stuff. You sure expel quite a bit of energy going into chat, coming on the boards and making sure that people know you're still around. Wow... you can change your IP address and spoof a bunch of email addresses. You sir are one bad ass hacker. Has Apple called you yet? You must be so proud.

You've got friends who add your name/number to a line making a mockery of the site. In my opinion that shit should stop. But roll is sacred round these parts, and if you guys want to make a mockery of your roll call, that's your choice. Believe me... I can understand why your quit brothers would be pissed that you're not here anymore. They're your brothers, and they feel that we've done something wrong by keeping you away from the site. But by you continuing to be here, you're taking time away from the process of quitting. You've wasted more mod  admin time than anyone in recent memory. Congratulations... you're the worst kind of troll. That said, I feel bad for you. My 4 year old thinks what you're doing is childish. Oh well...

I'll be honest here. There was a time when I thought that we may have made a mistake in banning you. You sure did have a lot of support. You had people coming out of the woodwork telling us to give you another chance and we'd see. But what you've done by not just going away gracefully is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind that we absolutely made the right call. These days, we need to waste time keeping you off the site when we should be dealing with helping new quitters and growing the site.

I've wasted enough time typing this response. I fully realize that I'm breaking the first rule of dealing with trolls: "Don't feed the trolls." For now, I'll go back to my cave and talk with the rest of the admins about how best to exact random rules on unsuspecting members. Apparently we're good at that.

I'll be expecting your new site which is run infinitely better than this to pop up any day in Google.

Love,
chewie

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[chewie]

Regarding PERSONAL CHAT:

This has been a very valuable tool in helping and encouraging new quitters. Please make sure you are not over reacting to the misuse of a few by turning it off. Don't let the tail wag the dog.

Thanks.

Keddy - you make a very valid point. And one that didn't go unnoticed when we made the decision. I'd like to personally apologize to the folks that use the chat the RIGHT way. It's not your fault. You guys are building a brotherhood, supporting new quitters and using the chat the way it was intended. Thank you and I'm sorry.

I full recognize that this next section may piss some people off. At this point, I don't care.

Dear Tex (and a few others)... this is because of you. Congratulations. You've succeeded in "ruining it for everyone" with your bullshit antics. For a site you seem to hate you sure spend an awful lot of time sticking around and reading stuff. You sure expel quite a bit of energy going into chat, coming on the boards and making sure that people know you're still around. Wow... you can change your IP address and spoof a bunch of email addresses. You sir are one bad ass hacker. Has Apple called you yet? You must be so proud.

You've got friends who add your name/number to a line making a mockery of the site. In my opinion that shit should stop. But roll is sacred round these parts, and if you guys want to make a mockery of your roll call, that's your choice. Believe me... I can understand why your quit brothers would be pissed that you're not here anymore. They're your brothers, and they feel that we've done something wrong by keeping you away from the site. But by you continuing to be here, you're taking time away from the process of quitting. You've wasted more mod  admin time than anyone in recent memory. Congratulations... you're the worst kind of troll. That said, I feel bad for you. My 4 year old thinks what you're doing is childish. Oh well...

I'll be honest here. There was a time when I thought that we may have made a mistake in banning you. You sure did have a lot of support. You had people coming out of the woodwork telling us to give you another chance and we'd see. But what you've done by not just going away gracefully is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind that we absolutely made the right call. These days, we need to waste time keeping you off the site when we should be dealing with helping new quitters and growing the site.

I've wasted enough time typing this response. I fully realize that I'm breaking the first rule of dealing with trolls: "Don't feed the trolls." For now, I'll go back to my cave and talk with the rest of the admins about how best to exact random rules on unsuspecting members. Apparently we're good at that.

I'll be expecting your new site which is run infinitely better than this to pop up any day in Google.

Love,
chewie

[Keddy]

Regarding PERSONAL CHAT:

This has been a very valuable tool in helping and encouraging new quitters. Please make sure you are not over reacting to the misuse of a few by turning it off. Don't let the tail wag the dog.

Thanks.

[chewie]

Hey i guys im new and i am just at the 24 hour mark of quitting. I hope this place can help me out. I do have a question my shoulders and neck have been tight they almost feel like a cramp is this normal?

Yep. While this isn't one of the things that we list on our "What To Expect" page http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp this is certainly something that we see often. Your body is going through quite a few changes right now... and it's PISSED.

Head over to November 2012 and introduce yourself: index.php?showtopic=6793

Welcome aboard!

chewie

[Adizzle]

Hey i guys im new and i am just at the 24 hour mark of quitting. I hope this place can help me out. I do have a question my shoulders and neck have been tight they almost feel like a cramp is this normal?

[chewie]

New blog post: Nip The Grip - RAW

http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/07/nip-the-grip-raw/

[jklivin40]

For starters I am not a doctor, so take all in consideration to your own health/safety concerns, discuss w/ a doc if you have conditions or whatever. This has been a great remedy for me so far, day 3 for me and I havent had a lot of problems, not to say they are not around the corner but so far this has helped me.
a. 1 tbsp Apple cider vinegar w/ 1 tsp honey in 32oz. of water 3x a day(fix to taste, helps cleanse, taste will get better w/ time)
b. Omega supplement w/ EPA  DHA
c. good whole food vitamin
d. plenty of fiber (this helps absorb all the crap your body is getting rid of from nic use plus if you are drinking about 1gallon of water a day this will help w/ movin things along in the belly)
e. walk for 15-20 mins after a meal (helps w/ digestion and the after meal crave)
f. avoid fat and increase veggies and fruit (to many benefits to list)
g. good probiotic (this helps w/ digestion and rebuilds the good bacteria in the gut that tobacco use has killed)
h. hot tea (not as much caff. as coffee, which can cause anxiety, but enough to get u stimulated, there are some calming teas that can really help w/ mood issues thru the day or sleep)
i. herbal snuff
j. 10-20 mins yoga in the morning and before bed(there is great stuff on youtube, you dont need to be a pro, just do what you can)
k. cold showers (work your way into this, reduce temp each time)
l. i have heard and read that some homeopath supplements work real well, havent tried it

again my disclaimer: i am not a doctor, so use at own risk. all this has worked for me; more energy, less cravings, better mood, sleep well, no constipation, and a lot more.