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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #336 on: April 19, 2012, 08:00:00 AM »
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I know this is kind of a bummer question, but does anyone know the overall success rate here? I would think that it is pretty high, but was just curious.
Not a bummer at all. But a very difficult question to answer quite frankly.

Obviously, not everyone that registers gets/stays quit for the long term. Unfortunately, the only way we "know" if someone is quit is when they're following the program set forth and posting roll on a daily basis. Also unfortunately, many people seem to think that they're "cured" after 100 days (the hall of fame) and drift away from the site thinking they can now go it on their own. Invariably, these people (more often than not) come slinking back to the site a few weeks, months, years later posting a day #1 cause they thought they could have "just one".

Re-reading that, it sounds rather cynical... but I can tell you from a LOT of experience around these parts it's not... it happens all too often.

National "success" rates range anywhere between 5% and 25%. I put success in quotes because it depends on how you define success. I'd say the success rate of our members reaching the hall of fame (100 days) is MUCH higher than that... probably closer to 50%. As for POST-HOF, it's difficult to say because as I alluded to before, when people go away from the site, we can only assume they're still quit.

What I CAN tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt is the folks that put their name on this line index.php?showtopic=3 (and hundreds others like it on this site) are quit today.

Sorry for the long winded answer... I'm sure it was much more than you were looking for.

chewie
That is what I was looking for, thanks! I am beginning to understand the one day at a time mentality, but it has taken me a few days to get it. Maybe because I am in a fog or maybe I am just a slow learner. :blink: I am quit today and that is all I am going to worry about going forward.
You can beat yourself up about the stupid things you did yesterday, but that won't get you anywhere.
You can make some sort of promise (reasonable or wild) about what you'll do tomorrow, but you aren't there yet.

You can quit now and choose not to put the worm dirt into your mouth today because it's the only moment you have control over.
A successful quit is a series of "nows" strung together.
I have achieved a 100% success ratio by using this site. You can too. It's entirely your choice. That's what matters.
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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #335 on: April 19, 2012, 07:55:00 AM »
Quote from: Keddy
Quote from: chitownsnus
Quote from: iuchewie
Quote from: chitownsnus
I know this is kind of a bummer question, but does anyone know the overall success rate here? I would think that it is pretty high, but was just curious.
Not a bummer at all. But a very difficult question to answer quite frankly.

Obviously, not everyone that registers gets/stays quit for the long term. Unfortunately, the only way we "know" if someone is quit is when they're following the program set forth and posting roll on a daily basis. Also unfortunately, many people seem to think that they're "cured" after 100 days (the hall of fame) and drift away from the site thinking they can now go it on their own. Invariably, these people (more often than not) come slinking back to the site a few weeks, months, years later posting a day #1 cause they thought they could have "just one".

Re-reading that, it sounds rather cynical... but I can tell you from a LOT of experience around these parts it's not... it happens all too often.

National "success" rates range anywhere between 5% and 25%. I put success in quotes because it depends on how you define success. I'd say the success rate of our members reaching the hall of fame (100 days) is MUCH higher than that... probably closer to 50%. As for POST-HOF, it's difficult to say because as I alluded to before, when people go away from the site, we can only assume they're still quit.

What I CAN tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt is the folks that put their name on this line index.php?showtopic=3 (and hundreds others like it on this site) are quit today.

Sorry for the long winded answer... I'm sure it was much more than you were looking for.

chewie
That is what I was looking for, thanks! I am beginning to understand the one day at a time mentality, but it has taken me a few days to get it. Maybe because I am in a fog or maybe I am just a slow learner. :blink: I am quit today and that is all I am going to worry about going forward.
You can beat yourself up about the stupid things you did yesterday, but that won't get you anywhere.
You can make some sort of promise (reasonable or wild) about what you'll do tomorrow, but you aren't there yet.

You can quit now and choose not to put the worm dirt into your mouth today because it's the only moment you have control over.
A successful quit is a series of "nows" strung together.
hi everyone im in day 2, i am doing the nicotine patch. has anyone tried this or has everyone quit cold turkey? thanks rambos0184

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #334 on: April 17, 2012, 11:14:00 AM »
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Quote from: iuchewie
Quote from: chitownsnus
I know this is kind of a bummer question, but does anyone know the overall success rate here? I would think that it is pretty high, but was just curious.
Not a bummer at all. But a very difficult question to answer quite frankly.

Obviously, not everyone that registers gets/stays quit for the long term. Unfortunately, the only way we "know" if someone is quit is when they're following the program set forth and posting roll on a daily basis. Also unfortunately, many people seem to think that they're "cured" after 100 days (the hall of fame) and drift away from the site thinking they can now go it on their own. Invariably, these people (more often than not) come slinking back to the site a few weeks, months, years later posting a day #1 cause they thought they could have "just one".

Re-reading that, it sounds rather cynical... but I can tell you from a LOT of experience around these parts it's not... it happens all too often.

National "success" rates range anywhere between 5% and 25%. I put success in quotes because it depends on how you define success. I'd say the success rate of our members reaching the hall of fame (100 days) is MUCH higher than that... probably closer to 50%. As for POST-HOF, it's difficult to say because as I alluded to before, when people go away from the site, we can only assume they're still quit.

What I CAN tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt is the folks that put their name on this line index.php?showtopic=3 (and hundreds others like it on this site) are quit today.

Sorry for the long winded answer... I'm sure it was much more than you were looking for.

chewie
That is what I was looking for, thanks! I am beginning to understand the one day at a time mentality, but it has taken me a few days to get it. Maybe because I am in a fog or maybe I am just a slow learner. :blink: I am quit today and that is all I am going to worry about going forward.
You can beat yourself up about the stupid things you did yesterday, but that won't get you anywhere.
You can make some sort of promise (reasonable or wild) about what you'll do tomorrow, but you aren't there yet.

You can quit now and choose not to put the worm dirt into your mouth today because it's the only moment you have control over.
A successful quit is a series of "nows" strung together.

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #333 on: April 17, 2012, 11:07:00 AM »
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Quote from: chitownsnus
I know this is kind of a bummer question, but does anyone know the overall success rate here? I would think that it is pretty high, but was just curious.
Not a bummer at all. But a very difficult question to answer quite frankly.

Obviously, not everyone that registers gets/stays quit for the long term. Unfortunately, the only way we "know" if someone is quit is when they're following the program set forth and posting roll on a daily basis. Also unfortunately, many people seem to think that they're "cured" after 100 days (the hall of fame) and drift away from the site thinking they can now go it on their own. Invariably, these people (more often than not) come slinking back to the site a few weeks, months, years later posting a day #1 cause they thought they could have "just one".

Re-reading that, it sounds rather cynical... but I can tell you from a LOT of experience around these parts it's not... it happens all too often.

National "success" rates range anywhere between 5% and 25%. I put success in quotes because it depends on how you define success. I'd say the success rate of our members reaching the hall of fame (100 days) is MUCH higher than that... probably closer to 50%. As for POST-HOF, it's difficult to say because as I alluded to before, when people go away from the site, we can only assume they're still quit.

What I CAN tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt is the folks that put their name on this line index.php?showtopic=3 (and hundreds others like it on this site) are quit today.

Sorry for the long winded answer... I'm sure it was much more than you were looking for.

chewie
That is what I was looking for, thanks! I am beginning to understand the one day at a time mentality, but it has taken me a few days to get it. Maybe because I am in a fog or maybe I am just a slow learner. :blink: I am quit today and that is all I am going to worry about going forward.

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #332 on: April 17, 2012, 10:48:00 AM »
Quote from: chitownsnus
I know this is kind of a bummer question, but does anyone know the overall success rate here? I would think that it is pretty high, but was just curious.
Not a bummer at all. But a very difficult question to answer quite frankly.

Obviously, not everyone that registers gets/stays quit for the long term. Unfortunately, the only way we "know" if someone is quit is when they're following the program set forth and posting roll on a daily basis. Also unfortunately, many people seem to think that they're "cured" after 100 days (the hall of fame) and drift away from the site thinking they can now go it on their own. Invariably, these people (more often than not) come slinking back to the site a few weeks, months, years later posting a day #1 cause they thought they could have "just one".

Re-reading that, it sounds rather cynical... but I can tell you from a LOT of experience around these parts it's not... it happens all too often.

National "success" rates range anywhere between 5% and 25%. I put success in quotes because it depends on how you define success. I'd say the success rate of our members reaching the hall of fame (100 days) is MUCH higher than that... probably closer to 50%. As for POST-HOF, it's difficult to say because as I alluded to before, when people go away from the site, we can only assume they're still quit.

What I CAN tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt is the folks that put their name on this line index.php?showtopic=3 (and hundreds others like it on this site) are quit today.

Sorry for the long winded answer... I'm sure it was much more than you were looking for.

chewie
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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #331 on: April 17, 2012, 09:41:00 AM »
I know this is kind of a bummer question, but does anyone know the overall success rate here? I would think that it is pretty high, but was just curious.

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #330 on: April 17, 2012, 03:29:00 AM »
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Hi all. I've been chewing for 5 years. It's time to quit...my teeth are shifting. And my hangovers are terrible. I emptied my last can. I'm bookmarking this page. I know it's going to be tough. Here we go baby.
You need to go to the welcome center and read about posting roll, read everything you can. You are in the July quitters. PM me with any questions!
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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #329 on: April 16, 2012, 07:42:00 PM »
Hi all. I've been chewing for 5 years. It's time to quit...my teeth are shifting. And my hangovers are terrible. I emptied my last can. I'm bookmarking this page. I know it's going to be tough. Here we go baby.

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #328 on: April 13, 2012, 12:25:00 PM »
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Hello, I've chewed Copenhagen for 14 years, and the last 7 of them it was 2 cans a day. I decided to quit on the 10th of april for my health and my family.

Im on day 4 now and I haven't killed anyone, But man am I sick. Is this normal. I cant get warm, chills, stomach feels like I ate enough for 10 people, my body hurts all over.. WTF.
You could be really sick or most likely you're experiencing withdrawal in your own personal way. Everyone goes through the first stages of quitting a little differently. No matter how you spell it, it sucks!!

Could be either but it wouldn't surprise me if it's nic withdrawal.

Tough it out. Your life is worth the fight.

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #327 on: April 13, 2012, 11:24:00 AM »
Hello, I've chewed Copenhagen for 14 years, and the last 7 of them it was 2 cans a day. I decided to quit on the 10th of april for my health and my family.

Im on day 4 now and I haven't killed anyone, But man am I sick. Is this normal. I cant get warm, chills, stomach feels like I ate enough for 10 people, my body hurts all over.. WTF.

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #326 on: April 12, 2012, 04:51:00 PM »
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This is really sad...

Minnesota Twins Back Off Plan to Ban Dip

The Twins had previously decided to ban all tobacco use at its stadium. Now they've gone back on their word and decided dip is ok.

Boo.
Fucking terrible.

Thanks for posting.
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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #325 on: April 12, 2012, 04:01:00 PM »
This is really sad...

Minnesota Twins Back Off Plan to Ban Dip

The Twins had previously decided to ban all tobacco use at its stadium. Now they've gone back on their word and decided dip is ok.

Boo.
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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #324 on: April 07, 2012, 11:06:00 PM »
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alright guys, Im 15 yes its sad being that young and already addicted. I really need some support... I quit smoking after a year and I was happy, my doctor already could tell I smoked cause my lungs were getting all clogged up with nasty tar. Im a husky boy from oklahoma and I had dipped recently but it just got worse once I kicked one habit, another, just as deadly one began. I need some emtional support not getting sappy on you guys just need some support. My parents knew I smoked after i told my pops straight out when he asked. I now have started spitting two cans a week! ): I need some help... Some guidance.
That's about when I started you better quit now buddy because once your hooked 20 years goes quick and 1000's of dollars waisted on killing yourself. Get off th shit, stay stong
jake the emotional support you want and need along with a good ass kicking from time to time, is in the quit groups. If you want to quit, you need to introduce your self in the introduce forum and then post day one with your promise you will be quit for that day. Have you spent any time looking around and reading? you need to. do it, today, I can help you but you gotta want this. email me if you have any questions or comments.
My little brother. Started when I was 15, just like you now. I'm 45 now, 30 years of a waste of money, and damage to my body.... I sure wish I could talk to me back then, like we can you, right now.

To hell with tobacco. Join us man, I'm 3 days into my quit and its going great. Its hard yes, but nothing you cant do. If I can, you can. Come join our unit and fight with us. Its a war, and every day is a battle. I'll fight with ya. Fight with us now.
Hell Kid you need to quit NOW!!!! its been 2 days since you were lurking around, You know what you need to do QUIT already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't fuck with the bitch another minute or in 15 or 20 yrs you'll look back and say "WHY". Answer YOU kept putting the shit in your face.
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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #323 on: April 07, 2012, 03:43:00 AM »
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New blog post: 5 Words That Can Kill A Quit: “Can I Bum A Dip”

http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/5-wo ... bum-a-dip/
All true hell I'm 54 and have wasted $10s of thousands. Who In their right mind would do that. We all have been doing it, some longer than others but time don't matter. What Matters is that we gain control of our mind and make it right,
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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #322 on: April 06, 2012, 05:46:00 PM »
New blog post: 5 Words That Can Kill A Quit: “Can I Bum A Dip”

http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/5-wo ... bum-a-dip/
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