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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #111 on: January 31, 2012, 09:17:00 PM »
Note to mods and admins:

As I see it, when you guys moved into your positions you took on a different sort of responsibility to the group. You moved into a role that is primarily that of being caregivers. Sure there always is some giving and receiving in the mutual accountability that is part of KTC, but by definition, your roles make you more givers than receivers.

I’m pointing this out, not because I know better than you, but merely as a warning. Over the past week or two, I’ve seen some of you come close to “burnout.” To avoid getting emotionally exhausted by constantly giving, you will need to keep connected to those who have helped you with your quits. You may even need to ask some special quit friends to be a listening ear for you. Your own personal support base needs to be strengthened or the loneliness of leadership will exacerbate the funks that we addicts all experience.

Long term and effective service to KTC necessitates this healthy balance of giving and receiving. We’ve all seen the “drama queens” who think they deserve everything given to them on a silver platter. They are self destructive. Be careful that you don’t end up in the opposite extreme of getting too caught up in giving that you fail to receive or seek the support that you need.

If this is something that all of you discuss regularly, please excuse my candidness. But IÂ’ve experienced the dysfunction of burnout firsthand and have helped many others to struggle through it. The recovery process can be rough and itÂ’s best to avoid the need if possible.

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #110 on: January 31, 2012, 09:02:00 PM »
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Need to figure out what group I belong to. This is not my original username on here. I messaged Chewie to send me the info. I need to come clean with my original group first though. Any suggestions? My quit year was 2009.
You have the info now...and I see you have posted up in May...time to come clean.

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #109 on: January 31, 2012, 02:39:00 AM »
Anyone know where I can order a can of Jake's Mint Chew by a can? All I see on the site is rolls. Chewie's review got me interested in trying but don't really want to buy a whole roll if I don't have to. Anyone else have an opinion on the stuff??

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #108 on: January 30, 2012, 02:40:00 PM »
New blog post: Us Vs. Them In A Nutshell

http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/us-v ... -nutshell/
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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #107 on: January 29, 2012, 12:17:00 AM »
Quote from: bluebonnetman
Quote from: redyota
Quote from: RatedRKO16
Hopefully the right place to post a question?  I have depression/anxiety and on Day 28, last 5 days or so its been hardly bareable.  I've tried some jogging, was wondering if anyone else has some tips for this 'stage'.  I've talked to a few guys here and they say it happens to some of us...

Thanks.
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rated -

yeah, for some of us with depression and anxiety - like me - this month of quit has been a real rollercoaster. the men and women all over this site - vets and newbies - talk about the fog, the irritability, the frustration, the questions. the projection. (it's pretty obvious about the projection whenever newbies start spraying all over vets and vets call them on it and things blow up. it's kind of entertaining actually. the vets say it's a way to keep the quitter focused on something other than the lack of nicotine, the lack of the habit, etc.)
one thing i'm doing is walking - everybody talks about exercise being good - and that seems to help. (i needed to start walking anyway, so this works.) i also come and read what people have written, look at hall of fame speeches. i text back and forth with some other april quitters.
i think PART of what would be good for me to do is to stop doing so MUCH soul-searching. it's like that's all i can do lately. huge questions about work, purpose of life, kids, marriage, calling, direction, health, blah blah blah. I've been going through a tough few years anyway, and The Quit has helped me feel much more confident and hopeful - but the flip side is the increased FEELING. i mean, i just FEEL THINGS more - there's no nicotine haze, no nicotine buzz, no dipping habituation. this is good ... and it's also like being turned to 11.
if the depression/anxiety gets acute or scary, call the doctor immediately. but then if you know you have depression/anxiety, you may already know to do that.
there is much support in this community.
personal message fellow april quitters. they will reach out to you.
get outside. look at the sky. do something. move.
this too shall pass. i promise. no shit.

bluebonnetman
Thanks, this helped a lot. Just at that point where I'm sitting here and I'm not doing ANYTHING. I don't remember what I use to do? I think back and I was like ahh yeah... I'd take out a big dip and just sit here and during that time it didn't matter what I was doing because dipping was SOMETHING.

I can feel it getting better though. 28 days through and day #28 didn't lay down to take a nap from boredom/exhaustion. Day 21-27 though was one roller coaster ride though!!!

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #106 on: January 28, 2012, 09:51:00 PM »
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Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: Anewman
Need to figure out what group I belong to. This is not my original username on here. I messaged Chewie to send me the info. I need to come clean with my original group first though. Any suggestions? My quit year was 2009.
Anewman,

While you are waiting to hear back on your user name/ password, you need to figure out if the door is closed this time.

Read about Tom and Jenny Kern here...start from the bottom.

There are links to things that helped me along my journey here. Maybe somewhere in those links you will find something that resonates, something that makes you finally close the door.

do you remember who any of the quitters were in your original group?
KodiakDan, Dean the Coot were a couple of the guys I was with I think.
Any of these look familiar?

June 2009 index.php?s=a...CODE=whot=2172

July 2009 index.php?s=a...CODE=whot=2251

Looks like dean and kodiakdan were in different groups. It might take a couple of minutes for each link to load.

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #105 on: January 28, 2012, 09:02:00 PM »
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Quote from: Anewman
Need to figure out what group I belong to. This is not my original username on here. I messaged Chewie to send me the info. I need to come clean with my original group first though. Any suggestions? My quit year was 2009.
Anewman,

While you are waiting to hear back on your user name/ password, you need to figure out if the door is closed this time.

Read about Tom and Jenny Kern here...start from the bottom.

There are links to things that helped me along my journey here. Maybe somewhere in those links you will find something that resonates, something that makes you finally close the door.

do you remember who any of the quitters were in your original group?
KodiakDan, Dean the Coot were a couple of the guys I was with I think.
Dip Quit Date - January 8, 2016; Here's to better days ahead! Phillipians 4:13

All men dream but not equally,
Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their mind wake to find it was all vanity,
But the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,
for they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it reality...

TE Lawrence - 7 Pillars of Wisdom

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #104 on: January 28, 2012, 01:16:00 PM »
Quote from: Anewman
Need to figure out what group I belong to. This is not my original username on here. I messaged Chewie to send me the info. I need to come clean with my original group first though. Any suggestions? My quit year was 2009.
Anewman,

While you are waiting to hear back on your user name/ password, you need to figure out if the door is closed this time.

Read about Tom and Jenny Kern here...start from the bottom.

There are links to things that helped me along my journey here. Maybe somewhere in those links you will find something that resonates, something that makes you finally close the door.

do you remember who any of the quitters were in your original group?

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #103 on: January 28, 2012, 01:08:00 PM »
Quote from: Anewman
Need to figure out what group I belong to. This is not my original username on here. I messaged Chewie to send me the info. I need to come clean with my original group first though. Any suggestions? My quit year was 2009.
Anewman,

While you are waiting to hear back on your user name/ password, you need to figure out if the door is closed this time.

Read about Tom and Jenny Kern here...start from the bottom.

There are links to things that helped me along my journey here. Maybe somewhere in those links you will find something that resonates, something that makes you finally close the door.

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #102 on: January 28, 2012, 12:58:00 PM »
Need to figure out what group I belong to. This is not my original username on here. I messaged Chewie to send me the info. I need to come clean with my original group first though. Any suggestions? My quit year was 2009.
Dip Quit Date - January 8, 2016; Here's to better days ahead! Phillipians 4:13

All men dream but not equally,
Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their mind wake to find it was all vanity,
But the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,
for they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it reality...

TE Lawrence - 7 Pillars of Wisdom

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #101 on: January 28, 2012, 11:04:00 AM »
Quote from: redyota
Quote from: RatedRKO16
Hopefully the right place to post a question?  I have depression/anxiety and on Day 28, last 5 days or so its been hardly bareable.  I've tried some jogging, was wondering if anyone else has some tips for this 'stage'.  I've talked to a few guys here and they say it happens to some of us...

Thanks.
Post roll. Everyday.

Click on that salmon colored link above that says "Welcome Center" to get the why and how.
rated -

yeah, for some of us with depression and anxiety - like me - this month of quit has been a real rollercoaster. the men and women all over this site - vets and newbies - talk about the fog, the irritability, the frustration, the questions. the projection. (it's pretty obvious about the projection whenever newbies start spraying all over vets and vets call them on it and things blow up. it's kind of entertaining actually. the vets say it's a way to keep the quitter focused on something other than the lack of nicotine, the lack of the habit, etc.)
one thing i'm doing is walking - everybody talks about exercise being good - and that seems to help. (i needed to start walking anyway, so this works.) i also come and read what people have written, look at hall of fame speeches. i text back and forth with some other april quitters.
i think PART of what would be good for me to do is to stop doing so MUCH soul-searching. it's like that's all i can do lately. huge questions about work, purpose of life, kids, marriage, calling, direction, health, blah blah blah. I've been going through a tough few years anyway, and The Quit has helped me feel much more confident and hopeful - but the flip side is the increased FEELING. i mean, i just FEEL THINGS more - there's no nicotine haze, no nicotine buzz, no dipping habituation. this is good ... and it's also like being turned to 11.
if the depression/anxiety gets acute or scary, call the doctor immediately. but then if you know you have depression/anxiety, you may already know to do that.
there is much support in this community.
personal message fellow april quitters. they will reach out to you.
get outside. look at the sky. do something. move.
this too shall pass. i promise. no shit.

bluebonnetman

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #100 on: January 28, 2012, 07:44:00 AM »
Quote from: RatedRKO16
Hopefully the right place to post a question? I have depression/anxiety and on Day 28, last 5 days or so its been hardly bareable. I've tried some jogging, was wondering if anyone else has some tips for this 'stage'. I've talked to a few guys here and they say it happens to some of us...

Thanks.
Post roll. Everyday.

Click on that salmon colored link above that says "Welcome Center" to get the why and how.
"We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job." - Sir Winston Churchill

"Not using gets much easier as time goes by, but the consequences of "just one" never lessen." - Me

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #99 on: January 28, 2012, 07:42:00 AM »
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When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
You have to sign up for chat. It's different. But do use your same username as the forum.
Do you like the chat site? If so, why? Haven't tried it but curious.
It's how you get to know folks. Check it out.
If it weren't for chat, we wouldn't know about tarp's tranny obsession, or gmanns proclivity for the pean...

just sayin...
gmann has a van...and candy....he hangs out in chat....just sayin....
And after too many wine coolers he will spill the story of how he met Chris Hansen Dateline NBC...
5 posts til it turned. Good job.
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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #98 on: January 28, 2012, 03:54:00 AM »
Hopefully the right place to post a question? I have depression/anxiety and on Day 28, last 5 days or so its been hardly bareable. I've tried some jogging, was wondering if anyone else has some tips for this 'stage'. I've talked to a few guys here and they say it happens to some of us...

Thanks.

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Re: General Discussion - 2012
« Reply #97 on: January 26, 2012, 11:20:00 AM »
Quote from: noonelikesaquitter
Quote from: dippshit
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Jman
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Moondawggy
When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
You have to sign up for chat. It's different. But do use your same username as the forum.
Do you like the chat site? If so, why? Haven't tried it but curious.
It's how you get to know folks. Check it out.
If it weren't for chat, we wouldn't know about tarp's tranny obsession, or gmanns proclivity for the pean...

just sayin...
gmann has a van...and candy....he hangs out in chat....just sayin....
And after too many wine coolers he will spill the story of how he met Chris Hansen Dateline NBC...


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