General Discussion - 2013

[loot]

New blog post: Social Media And The Quitter
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/soci ... e-quitter/

Awesome. Just saw the pic of the cake. That thing is kickass.

Thanks for sharing chews2002.

[chewie]

New blog post: Social Media And The Quitter
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/soci ... e-quitter/

[Keddy]

So now here comes the Irony.  Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up. 

Bullshit Commercial

Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around"  with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke?  He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom" 

FUCK THEM.  They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer.  They want you hooked.  Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix. 

I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch.  I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice.  Nicotine you lying bitch.  You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person.  Numb them to cope and not achieve.  Bullshit!  Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.       

Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine.  That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back.  Healthy alternative?  How about just being quit?   

I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today, 

I AM FREE


Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU!  'Finger'

What a load of crap

Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!

I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her

Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.

So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?

HA!

He wants people to validate his behavior.

You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.

True freedom is being who you want to be.

If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.

This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".

I took back my freedom.

He found a nicer cell.

I dunno what the answer is. I was able to get a buddy here and he Quit. He doesn't post roll, but he bought into the acountability thing.

He was ready.

I have another freind who still smokes. Last time I talked to him, he gave me the, 'I just really like smoking' BS.

He's not ready.

Switching shackles doesn't set a person free!

[Nolaq]

So now here comes the Irony.  Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up. 

Bullshit Commercial

Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around"  with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke?  He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom" 

FUCK THEM.  They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer.  They want you hooked.  Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix. 

I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch.  I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice.  Nicotine you lying bitch.  You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person.  Numb them to cope and not achieve.  Bullshit!  Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.       

Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine.  That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back.  Healthy alternative?  How about just being quit?   

I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today, 

I AM FREE


Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU!  'Finger'

What a load of crap

Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!

I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her

Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.

So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?

HA!

He wants people to validate his behavior.

You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.

True freedom is being who you want to be.

If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.

This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".

I took back my freedom.

He found a nicer cell.

I dunno what the answer is. I was able to get a buddy here and he Quit. He doesn't post roll, but he bought into the acountability thing.

He was ready.

I have another freind who still smokes. Last time I talked to him, he gave me the, 'I just really like smoking' BS.

He's not ready.

[wastepanel]

So now here comes the Irony.  Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up. 

Bullshit Commercial

Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around"  with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke?  He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom" 

FUCK THEM.  They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer.  They want you hooked.  Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix. 

I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch.  I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice.  Nicotine you lying bitch.  You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person.  Numb them to cope and not achieve.  Bullshit!  Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.       

Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine.  That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back.  Healthy alternative?  How about just being quit?   

I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today, 

I AM FREE


Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU!  'Finger'

What a load of crap

Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!

I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her

Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.

So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?

HA!

He wants people to validate his behavior.

You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.

True freedom is being who you want to be.

If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.

This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".

I took back my freedom.

He found a nicer cell.

[Its_Got2Happen]

So now here comes the Irony.  Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up. 

Bullshit Commercial

Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around"  with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke?  He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom" 

FUCK THEM.  They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer.  They want you hooked.  Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix. 

I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch.  I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice.  Nicotine you lying bitch.  You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person.  Numb them to cope and not achieve.  Bullshit!  Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.       

Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine.  That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back.  Healthy alternative?  How about just being quit?   

I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today, 

I AM FREE


Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU!  'Finger'

What a load of crap

Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!

I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her

[Kdip]

So now here comes the Irony.  Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up. 

Bullshit Commercial

Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around"  with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke?  He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom" 

FUCK THEM.  They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer.  They want you hooked.  Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix. 

I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch.  I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice.  Nicotine you lying bitch.  You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person.  Numb them to cope and not achieve.  Bullshit!  Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.       

Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine.  That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back.  Healthy alternative?  How about just being quit?   

I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today, 

I AM FREE


Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU!  'Finger'

What a load of crap

Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!

[Mjollnir]

So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.

Bullshit Commercial

Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"

FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.

I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.

Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit?

I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,

I AM FREE


Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'

What a load of crap

[Mthomas3824]

So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.

Bullshit Commercial

Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"

FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.

I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.

Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit?

I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,

I AM FREE


Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'

[Mthomas3824]

Btw. General discussion and all: this has been burnin my ass. Why does country music insist on glorifying dip. I'm a country fan, but after hearing the new Blake shelton song, boys round here, I'd like to drag him outside and administer an ass whoopin. I'm so tired of hearing chew be glorified. "Skoal  ring" "Copenhagen smile" "pinch of Skoal" "chew ta-bacca" this shit should be demonized, not glorified!

Good words Fordtruckman! They build an image that all the young guys who want to be cool end up imitating and then wish they hadn't. There's NOTHING glorious or cool about dip. It kills . . . .

x2!!!! US Smokeless could be doing some backdoor advertising here????? Wouldn't put it past those scumbags!!!

Who is Fordtruckman? I am a fan. Well said quit brother. Well said!

[Kdip]

Btw. General discussion and all: this has been burnin my ass. Why does country music insist on glorifying dip. I'm a country fan, but after hearing the new Blake shelton song, boys round here, I'd like to drag him outside and administer an ass whoopin. I'm so tired of hearing chew be glorified. "Skoal  ring" "Copenhagen smile" "pinch of Skoal" "chew ta-bacca" this shit should be demonized, not glorified!

Good words Fordtruckman! They build an image that all the young guys who want to be cool end up imitating and then wish they hadn't. There's NOTHING glorious or cool about dip. It kills . . . .

x2!!!! US Smokeless could be doing some backdoor advertising here????? Wouldn't put it past those scumbags!!!

[Keddy]

Btw. General discussion and all: this has been burnin my ass. Why does country music insist on glorifying dip. I'm a country fan, but after hearing the new Blake shelton song, boys round here, I'd like to drag him outside and administer an ass whoopin. I'm so tired of hearing chew be glorified. "Skoal ring" "Copenhagen smile" "pinch of Skoal" "chew ta-bacca" this shit should be demonized, not glorified!

Good words Fordtruckman! They build an image that all the young guys who want to be cool end up imitating and then wish they hadn't. There's NOTHING glorious or cool about dip. It kills . . . .

[Fordtruckman]

Btw. General discussion and all: this has been burnin my ass. Why does country music insist on glorifying dip. I'm a country fan, but after hearing the new Blake shelton song, boys round here, I'd like to drag him outside and administer an ass whoopin. I'm so tired of hearing chew be glorified. "Skoal ring" "Copenhagen smile" "pinch of Skoal" "chew ta-bacca" this shit should be demonized, not glorified!

[copingwithoutcopen]

hey guys, I quit dip today and need some help. I have what looks like a callous on my lower lip. it is white in color, there is no pain. I am very nervous and hoping someone has had this that can tell me if I'm alright. btw, I'm 18 and trying to go strong.
'Remshot'

Congratulations on taking your life back! Your best course of action is to have it checked out by your dentist asap. My white patch got better every day after I quit. After a month it was almost gone... Your body has an incredible ability to heal if you give it a chance.

[Fordtruckman]

hey guys, I quit dip today and need some help. I have what looks like a callous on my lower lip. it is white in color, there is no pain. I am very nervous and hoping someone has had this that can tell me if I'm alright. btw, I'm 18 and trying to go strong.
'Remshot'

Go to the dentist and get it checked. It is most likely leukoplakia. You should be fine but STOP now while your ahead young brother. It'll be the best choice you ever made.