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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #145 on: February 22, 2015, 07:06:00 PM »
Hi I'm not really sure how to use this website yet it sure if I posted this in the right place even, but I need help, I just signed up for this. I am on day 20 of my quit (I quit on 2/2/15) and its been really rough. Is there anyone that can help me get through it, I feel so alone doing this since all of my friends still pack every day. Since I quit I've had a sore throat, canker sores, occasional mild jaw aches, anxiety, depression, and headaches. It's awful I'm nervous and I don't know what to do or how to handle it. I hate dip so much and I'm never touching it again that's for sure. Help me out if you can! Thanks

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #144 on: February 18, 2015, 07:35:00 PM »
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I've been reading everything I can but I just don't know about forever. I don't want to be they that doesn't make it. Everyone seems so successful here.
I joined over 2 weeks and not sure about putting my name there
If you've been reading and lurking for the past two weeks, then you know what this place is all about. What are you waiting for? It's time. You know it and I know it.

Forget about forever. Forever doesn't exist. The reason why we are successful here is because we quit one day at a time. Simple as that.

If you'd justquit when you first came here, you'd be past the absolute worst of it by now. You will never regret quitting. You WILL regret not doing it sooner.

Post up your Day 1 and let's do this.
Tuco is right (as usual). Especially when he says, "you will never regret quitting."

Forever is a crazy thing to think about, you're right. I don't know about forever either. I'm 21. That's a lot of years. I like to think about myself in 30 years, at 51. If I don't quit now, what will I be doing then? Still dipping or smoking at 51? Still addicted? 30 years of my life wasted on finding the next fix and making sure I'm never without a can? That's what gives me the strength now.

Every time I "quit" for 20 minutes and put another dip right back in my lip, I regretted it. I can't stress this enough — there is not a SINGLE day I wake up and say "I regret quitting." So I don't focus on forever. I think about the next 24 hours. Will I regret dipping in the next 24 hours? Yes. Will I regret staying quit? No. Easy as that, amigo.

Post roll. Join us in starving our addiction to nicotine.
You want to think of yourself in the next 30 years? I stopped for 2 years when I was 26 and my first son was on his way. Celebrated his birth with a cigar....and the nic bitch grabbed me by the balls all over again.....and I managed to hold her off a bit with cigars until she whispered in my ear on the way to a camping trip that "I could handle just one can" for the trip.

I just turned 50 last June. Haven't stopped dipping since that camping trip at age 27. FOREVER COME A HELL OF A LOT FASTER THAN YOU CAN EVER IMAGINE.
Lucky enough to see my four kids all out of the house and on their way to success. I won that lottery......and now I want to go double or nothing so I can see them start their own families and their kids can have a memory of a grandpa some day. Never know if that'll happen, but if you want to buy 10,000+ cans of dip and spend over 40k on shit that will eventually kill you and will definitely own you on a daily basis, then keep convincing yourself that you LOVE it. I did. You are going to be somewhere in 30 years...why not man up and decide that wherever it is, it won't be with nicotine in your system. Part of me wants to slap the shit out of my 20 year old self so that I will listen this time....but I don't get to do that...so I'm going to slap you upside your 20 something head and tell you to knock off your fucking excuses, stop whining about all the things I whined about, stop thinking about all the ways you can hide it, get away with it, control it, minimize it, etc. etc. etc. and just STOP. NOW.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #143 on: February 17, 2015, 11:44:00 AM »
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Finally made it through the night. Last chew was 19 hours ago.
Great work, I understand the withdrawal symptoms they can be tough.
First get over to the welcome center read up: forum/55560/
Second get over to May and post roll: topic/10927055/270/
Third: drinks tons of water, exercise and eat, work the poison out of your body.
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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #142 on: February 17, 2015, 10:06:00 AM »
Finally made it through the night. Last chew was 19 hours ago.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #141 on: February 17, 2015, 09:36:00 AM »
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How's it goin guys I am a United States Marine and I'm new to this site and I'm on quit day one. I managed to quit for a month and a half during a tour in Afghanistan however I didn't even make it 2 weeks back in America.. I am extremly motivated to quit for good this time but the struggle for me is that everyone I know/work with dips and smokes or both. we work early mornings and late nights especially training in the field and it seems dip is what keeps me goin sometimes. Is there anyone out there with experience fighting the uphill battle of quitting the Chaw when your constantly surrounded by it?
Marine.

Welcome.

To answer your question directly...we ALL have experienced what you're going through, as far as Quitting goes. Don't use your environment as an excuse to fail. We have Quitters here who are married to active users. We have Quitters who have Quit with their spouses. We are Marines, sailors, engineers, truck drivers, construction workers, bankers brokers, athletes and parents. We all have our unique situations that we once used, to tell ourselves, "I can't quit because XX or YY"

You need to learn that all that is addict speak, and it's bullshit. If you are serious about Quitting, and are ready to do it, it doesn't matter if your mother dips every day. If you want to Quit, you will Quit, in SPITE of your surroundings.

We can help. We've walked this path. Read all you can here, and when you're ready, post your promise, and I, along with hundreds of other guys will walk this path with you.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #140 on: February 17, 2015, 05:11:00 AM »
How's it goin guys I am a United States Marine and I'm new to this site and I'm on quit day one. I managed to quit for a month and a half during a tour in Afghanistan however I didn't even make it 2 weeks back in America.. I am extremly motivated to quit for good this time but the struggle for me is that everyone I know/work with dips and smokes or both. we work early mornings and late nights especially training in the field and it seems dip is what keeps me goin sometimes. Is there anyone out there with experience fighting the uphill battle of quitting the Chaw when your constantly surrounded by it?

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #139 on: February 17, 2015, 02:27:00 AM »
First night and I wake up at 1:30 sweating.... pounding headache

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #138 on: February 16, 2015, 09:17:00 PM »
Just joined the site. Took my last chew of Red Man Golden Blend this afternoon. I am 41 and have chewed since I was 14.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #137 on: February 16, 2015, 01:50:00 PM »
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This is a cold turkey quit site. BY replacing dip with the gum, you're merely substituting one method of nicotine delivery for another. In reality, when you feel "stressed out", you're really going through withdrawal from nicotine, and by using the gum, you''re not freeing yourself of your addiction.
Thanks. I've quit now... day 3.
Glad to see you made it to roll...read all you can, and reach out if you need anything. Get to know your brothers in May 2015...they will become a huge part of your life, much more than just part of your support network.
Nice. Have a look at all the responses to this article from nicorette addicts: http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Smoking-Ad ... show/43418

It's a very real addiction.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #136 on: February 14, 2015, 11:02:00 PM »
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This is a cold turkey quit site. BY replacing dip with the gum, you're merely substituting one method of nicotine delivery for another. In reality, when you feel "stressed out", you're really going through withdrawal from nicotine, and by using the gum, you''re not freeing yourself of your addiction.
Thanks. I've quit now... day 3.
Glad to see you made it to roll...read all you can, and reach out if you need anything. Get to know your brothers in May 2015...they will become a huge part of your life, much more than just part of your support network.
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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #135 on: February 14, 2015, 03:53:00 PM »
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This is a cold turkey quit site. BY replacing dip with the gum, you're merely substituting one method of nicotine delivery for another. In reality, when you feel "stressed out", you're really going through withdrawal from nicotine, and by using the gum, you''re not freeing yourself of your addiction.
Thanks. I've quit now... day 3.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #134 on: February 12, 2015, 10:46:00 AM »
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Hello, first time poster. I've been chewing for the better part of 23 years. I did manage to quit before and honestly I don't remember how long I made it. I think one time was perhaps a couple years.

It seems like I've been trying to quit for a long time, but never seem to be able to succeed. What seems to happen with me is that I quit for several days and then tell myself "Hey I've managed to stop for a few days... I must not be all that addicted!" And then I buy a can to reward myself. It doesn't make a damn bit of sense. Before I know it, I'm back into the habit.

So far I'm 6 days without chewing, so that's a reasonably good accomplishment for me. I'm on the 2mg gum, but haven't been chewing more than 3 or 4 pieces per day.
Every single day of the week I've had moments where I've considered going to buy a can, and I let myself feel that way for awhile before popping a piece of gum. I think that for me, I want to avoid getting in the habit of routinely chewing the gum and instead use it only when I really need it. When I do pop the gum it definitely helps me get past that feeling where i need to buy a can.

I'm really really hoping that I'll be able to do this! I definitely chew when I get stressed out, so I need to be really careful to properly deal with those stress triggers. So far so good.

A bit more about my habit. I've hidden it (at least tried to) from most everyone, so I tend to only chew not all day long. Instead, I would go into the bathroom during the work day, or when I'm taking a shower at home, and I'd put in a really huge dip. Since I would only be able to keep it in for 10-15 minutes, I tended to take it out and re-use it. Did any of you do this? It's kind of gross, but it became second nature to me and I found that a single huge dip could be reused 2-3 times. I would tend to go through a can around every 2-3 days, but this was only because I did my reuse trick.







So gowgow, a couple of things...

This is a cold turkey quit site. BY replacing dip with the gum, you're merely substituting one method of nicotine delivery for another. In reality, when you feel "stressed out", you're really going through withdrawal from nicotine, and by using the gum, you''re not freeing yourself of your addiction.

You aren't quit. You've never been quit. You've merely stopped and/or replaced one method of ingesting poison with another.

The only way this is going to work is for you to dump your stash of gum, and get quit. I'm not going to try to fool you, because it is going to suck big time. But if you can make it past 72 hours without dip or gum, the nicotine is out of your system once and for all. Why keep feeding you addiction instead of ramming it head on and addressing it?

You're welcome to peruse the site while you're using the gum, but I would encourage you to do what others encouraged me to do 1503 days ago:

Dump the gum, get rid of all the cans you have, and post a Day 1 in May 2015.

You need any help, shoot me a PM and I will be glad to help. We are a no nicotine in any form kind of site. You aren't Quit until you make that move.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #133 on: February 11, 2015, 08:07:00 PM »
Hello, first time poster. I've been chewing for the better part of 23 years. I did manage to quit before and honestly I don't remember how long I made it. I think one time was perhaps a couple years.

It seems like I've been trying to quit for a long time, but never seem to be able to succeed. What seems to happen with me is that I quit for several days and then tell myself "Hey I've managed to stop for a few days... I must not be all that addicted!" And then I buy a can to reward myself. It doesn't make a damn bit of sense. Before I know it, I'm back into the habit.

So far I'm 6 days without chewing, so that's a reasonably good accomplishment for me. I'm on the 2mg gum, but haven't been chewing more than 3 or 4 pieces per day.
Every single day of the week I've had moments where I've considered going to buy a can, and I let myself feel that way for awhile before popping a piece of gum. I think that for me, I want to avoid getting in the habit of routinely chewing the gum and instead use it only when I really need it. When I do pop the gum it definitely helps me get past that feeling where i need to buy a can.

I'm really really hoping that I'll be able to do this! I definitely chew when I get stressed out, so I need to be really careful to properly deal with those stress triggers. So far so good.

A bit more about my habit. I've hidden it (at least tried to) from most everyone, so I tend to only chew not all day long. Instead, I would go into the bathroom during the work day, or when I'm taking a shower at home, and I'd put in a really huge dip. Since I would only be able to keep it in for 10-15 minutes, I tended to take it out and re-use it. Did any of you do this? It's kind of gross, but it became second nature to me and I found that a single huge dip could be reused 2-3 times. I would tend to go through a can around every 2-3 days, but this was only because I did my reuse trick.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #132 on: February 11, 2015, 04:11:00 PM »
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This is my 1st post on here. I hope I'm in the right place. The last dip I had was on January 28. I started when I was 12 and I just turned 52 early Feb. Almost 40 yrs is enough, way too much. There was only 3 choices when I started.Skoal Original Fine Cut (which is what I always dipped), Copenhagen and Happy Days. Today marks 2 weeks for me and to be perfectly honest, I don't miss it one bit. I really only had 1 craving for it around day 3. I just finally decided I had enough and was taking my life back. No more. Never again.
well hello there Woodsmith!!

Have you posted with May 2015? thatll be your quit group, or the group youll hit 100 days with. quit one day at a time with those guys and you cant lose! congras on pulling your head out of your ass and quitting. welcome to the cool kids club
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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #131 on: February 11, 2015, 04:10:00 PM »
I found a mouse in my desk. that is all.
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