General Discussion - 2010

[Greg5280]

Life throws you some shit sometimes.  Are you ever ready for it?  Things are going along fine and then, boom.  Car breaks down.  Boss lays you off.  Your daughter got denied her student loan.  Your mortgage is overdue.  Your wife is leaving you.  Your mom dies.

It has been said many times before by people who are far more articulate than I, so I will paraphrase -  It matters not how many times a man gets knocked down; what matters is how many times he gets back up.  I am getting back up today.  I will get back up tomorrow.  I will continue to get up.  That's who I am.  That's who my kids think I am.  That's who my wife needs me to be.  That's who my parents raised me to be.  I will continue to get up because God has given me that resolve.

My addiction will not help me stand.  It will not help me get up.  For those of you that have been following the drama in the Springer family, I have been dealing with even more than I have shared here.  The one thing is, I will not dip to 'make it all better'.  I will not dip to 'ease the nerves'.  I will not dip 'just to get through this'.  I will not dip.

To all the incredible quitters here that have sent their prayers, kind words, and support; I cannot begin to thank you all.  Words cannot express my gratitude.  From the fine group of quitters in June 2010 to everyone that PM'd, texted, or emailed.  I couldn't list you all, because I'd forget someone and I don't want to do that. 

If you're a newbie and thinking about quitting dip - stick around.  You're in for the ride of your life.  The question is, "Are you ready?"

This right here is what is meant by Bad Ass Quitter.

WERD !!

GREAT POST !!

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[MikeA]

Life throws you some shit sometimes. Are you ever ready for it? Things are going along fine and then, boom. Car breaks down. Boss lays you off. Your daughter got denied her student loan. Your mortgage is overdue. Your wife is leaving you. Your mom dies.

It has been said many times before by people who are far more articulate than I, so I will paraphrase - It matters not how many times a man gets knocked down; what matters is how many times he gets back up. I am getting back up today. I will get back up tomorrow. I will continue to get up. That's who I am. That's who my kids think I am. That's who my wife needs me to be. That's who my parents raised me to be. I will continue to get up because God has given me that resolve.

My addiction will not help me stand. It will not help me get up. For those of you that have been following the drama in the Springer family, I have been dealing with even more than I have shared here. The one thing is, I will not dip to 'make it all better'. I will not dip to 'ease the nerves'. I will not dip 'just to get through this'. I will not dip.

To all the incredible quitters here that have sent their prayers, kind words, and support; I cannot begin to thank you all. Words cannot express my gratitude. From the fine group of quitters in June 2010 to everyone that PM'd, texted, or emailed. I couldn't list you all, because I'd forget someone and I don't want to do that.

If you're a newbie and thinking about quitting dip - stick around. You're in for the ride of your life. The question is, "Are you ready?"

This right here is what is meant by Bad Ass Quitter.

[Nolaq]

Life throws you some shit sometimes. Are you ever ready for it? Things are going along fine and then, boom. Car breaks down. Boss lays you off. Your daughter got denied her student loan. Your mortgage is overdue. Your wife is leaving you. Your mom dies.

It has been said many times before by people who are far more articulate than I, so I will paraphrase - It matters not how many times a man gets knocked down; what matters is how many times he gets back up. I am getting back up today. I will get back up tomorrow. I will continue to get up. That's who I am. That's who my kids think I am. That's who my wife needs me to be. That's who my parents raised me to be. I will continue to get up because God has given me that resolve.

My addiction will not help me stand. It will not help me get up. For those of you that have been following the drama in the Springer family, I have been dealing with even more than I have shared here. The one thing is, I will not dip to 'make it all better'. I will not dip to 'ease the nerves'. I will not dip 'just to get through this'. I will not dip.

To all the incredible quitters here that have sent their prayers, kind words, and support; I cannot begin to thank you all. Words cannot express my gratitude. From the fine group of quitters in June 2010 to everyone that PM'd, texted, or emailed. I couldn't list you all, because I'd forget someone and I don't want to do that.

If you're a newbie and thinking about quitting dip - stick around. You're in for the ride of your life. The question is, "Are you ready?"

[MikeA]

Does Kill the Can have a cell phone app?

I post from my Droid all the time. I used to post from my Blackberry. It don't matter how you post roll you just have to do it everyday.

So, are you going to quit or not?

bottom line. Yes. I want to talk with my wife tonight, and with my employers. I want to really get a plan together. I'm not good with spur of the moment stuff. I have to get a firm game plan lined up................is bacc off cheating?

Nope... no nicotine in Bacc Off or any of the products listed on this page: http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp No nic, no cheating.

baccoff is some nasty shit. I would recommend Hooch or Smokey Mountain. Do not pick your normal flavor. If you were a wintergreen guy get some mint fake. If you were a cope guy, go with wintergreen or mint. That way you are not trying to mimic the flavor and it will seem to you that you just switched brands.
Lease that is what helped me.
Talk to your wife and employer, tell them you have quit, Quitting right now is the best choice you can make. Not tomorrow, right now!!

[chewie]

Does Kill the Can have a cell phone app?

I post from my Droid all the time. I used to post from my Blackberry. It don't matter how you post roll you just have to do it everyday.

So, are you going to quit or not?

bottom line. Yes. I want to talk with my wife tonight, and with my employers. I want to really get a plan together. I'm not good with spur of the moment stuff. I have to get a firm game plan lined up................is bacc off cheating?

Nope... no nicotine in Bacc Off or any of the products listed on this page: http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp No nic, no cheating.

[babybanana]

Does Kill the Can have a cell phone app?

I post from my Droid all the time. I used to post from my Blackberry. It don't matter how you post roll you just have to do it everyday.

So, are you going to quit or not?

bottom line. Yes. I want to talk with my wife tonight, and with my employers. I want to really get a plan together. I'm not good with spur of the moment stuff. I have to get a firm game plan lined up................is bacc off cheating?

[MikeA]

Does Kill the Can have a cell phone app?

I post from my Droid all the time. I used to post from my Blackberry. It don't matter how you post roll you just have to do it everyday.

So, are you going to quit or not?

[Bean]

Not sure what your mean, but I access it with iPhone on weekends and you can get phone numbers from other quitters for support...even mine, I suppose. But you gotta quit first.

[babybanana]

Does Kill the Can have a cell phone app?

[Bean]

Moodiness? USE THIS SITE. Vent all you want, cuss like a sailor, whatever it takes, but stay quit.

Also, tell your employer and co-workers what you are doing and what you're going through. You are responsible for your actions, but I bet they are supportive.

If they don't help you at least a little, or if you lost your job because you were saving your life...FUCK THEM!!! Do you need them or that job more than you and your family need you alive? I doubt it.

But, if so, please let me know where to apply because that job sounds great...and they will be looking for your replacement if you don't quit dipping now. (HA!!)

Seriously though...you (1 person) got yourself into this position and we (tons of folks) are all here to help you get out. We will support you. We won't go away. And we will do it tirelessly and at no cost to you.

Commit to your quit today...and set yourself free and save your life. Not bad, huh?

[babybanana]

"Love the product, hate the addiction?"...I think every quitter once thought that. Nobody can quit for you. YOU must quit. I knew I wanted to quit, but Copenhagen was so much a part of my routine...mowing the lawn, driving to or from work, outdoor activities, etc. I really just enjoyed dipping...really?!!

Nicotine is a powerful drug. Copenhagen WAS SLOWLY KILLING ME AND GOING TO DISFIGURE MY JAW AND FACE BEYOND RECOGNITION and I pretended it wasn't. I knew this, and yet I refused to change. I had convinced myself that I wasn't a "heavy dipper" so it was harmless, right? I knew it would be just a matter of time until my teeth fall out or "they find something." By the way, if that happens, you'd better get your affairs in order quit because you will die soon.

True, they can remove "the suspicious site," but that will take your tongue and/or part of your jaw. What a great life you will have, huh? Besides being disfigured, you will likely only give yourself an extra six months or so to live...it comes back...

We all know this will happen...yet we convince ourselves it won't, at least not to me. Here is the truth...the only way to prevent this is to quit. THE QUESTION IS HOW?!!

The key (at least for me) was finding my motivation. I found mine it in the faces on my children. I saw a TV show commemorating the victims of September 11th...a child who has managed the last 9 years without his father. And there it was...I quit right there on the spot. NO WAY WAS I GOING TO SEND MY SON THROUGH THIS CRAZY FUCKING WORLD WITHOUT HELPING HIM. I spit out my dip and quit right then and there...cold turkey.

Then I read about the Kern family...God bless the Kern family. Tom Kern died with his children at his feet pleading for him not to go as he lost his battle with cancer. Read their story. Read his children's story. Read their entries into their diaries about how much they miss their father when they were getting ready for prom, playing baseball, etc. Is that going to be your family's story?

That is the power of nicotine...it makes your think it is harmless while it is actually killing you and torturing the folks you care most for...your spouse, your young children, your parents, your friends.

Really? Still can't quit? It is too hard to quit, right? It makes you feel all nervous and jittery, or makes you crave? I just considered how my son would "crave" to have me around as he grows up...and how "jittery" he would be as his little body shook unconsolably as he cried over funeral or disfiguring surgery. That was my motivation.

Quitting sucks...you feel like crap, angry at the world, etc. But making the right decision for my family is the best feeling in the world. This site is here to help you...just read and read, post roll call everyday, and "stay quit" one day at a time. It sucks at first, of course, but this site will even walk you through that, too. This site is an endless supply of support for folks that truly want to kick the habbit.

Well, if my words can't motivate you to quit, then I'm sorry. I have failed you. And, by the way, I don't want to ever meet you because you will be another casualty of tobacco. And it is too upsetting to me to think I had the chance to save your life, but I failed...I let you and your family down.

But, if you read these words and it motivates you to quit, there is no charge, nor any need to thank me. YOU have just saved every future family Christmas, every first-day of school, every little girl's wedding day, every little league game, every...well, every fucking everything...for you and your family. Congrats!!!

You're spot on, Bean. My family is probably the biggest reason I'm on this website. My wife and I are coming up on our first wedding anniversary. I always thought I would quit when I got married. Now we're talking about having children in the near future. I don't want this for my family, but honestly its like I'm on crack. People think, "oh, just snuff." But this is as strong as anything you could possibly be addicted to. I've never done any illegal drugs, but I hear about junkies getting shakes.........I GET THOSE WHEN I CANT FIND MY CAN.

[teaka]

I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?

Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.

Put your big boy pants on and come back when you are serious. There is some bad ass quitting going on around here and the serious guys do not need your shit.

big boy pants? listen man....all of these 'badass quitters' were in my shoes once. You all dipped, and you liked it. it tasted good mostly, and it helped you relax. No reason to get high and mighty because you're not dipping anymore. You were exactly where I am once. I'm only asking: How do I get where you are?

You have to want to quit and you obviously do not want too you just feel you need to. You may be feeling sick right now, you have a mouth sore, you have chest pains, you have something in you that is telling you that you have to quit. Well guess what, once you quit you will feel so much better and in a few weeks the nic bitch will tell you that because you are feeling better and that it will be OK to dip a little and since you don't want to quit, you will dip a little and you will have wasted all of our time. We have seen it many times.
So like we said, you need to want to quit and want to be quit with us. We will help but you had better convince us that you are worth our time.

So, no tricks or secrets whatsoever? just determination?

Determination and accountability is the name of the game around here. We all are in a quit group and we post roll call everyday saying to our quit brothers that we will not use nicotine that day. Our word is our bond. We we post roll and give our word we keep it. We do it all over again the next day and so on.

My word is as good as gold. How is your's?

Yeah, you can say I once was in your shoes. I remember the time I felt I needed to quit, but not the want. It took nearly 30 more years and several half-assed attempts because I didn't really want it. It was "only" when I want and when I was damn determined to make this a serious high priority, finding this site and listening to every bad-ass quitter who went before me, that I was successful.

How do you deal with the moodiness associated with a withdrawal. My mood is great 'normally?' but on a withdrawal....to be honest, I'm afraid I may loose my job. I'm not necessarily abrassive, but I get this, "I'm not going to take any shit from anybody attitude," and I'm in a job where I have to take a lot of shit. How do you maintain the same mood when you quit?

That is a good question. I have been quit for almost a month, and I am moody as shit. a full fledged asshole, some of the time. But I don't give a shit, my quit is now taking priority over others feelings, I apologize alot afterwards and explain my situation and most people understand. Be honest with people. And through talking to vets, it does get better in time

[chewie]

My mood is great 'normally?' but on a withdrawal....to be honest, I'm afraid I may loose my job.

If that's what it takes, then that's what it takes.

And no... I'm not joking. IF you're ready to quit, then you must be ready to quit. Period end of story. THAT becomes your job.

This is quite literally a fight for your life. When you're ready to fight, we'll help.

[babybanana]

I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?

Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.

Put your big boy pants on and come back when you are serious. There is some bad ass quitting going on around here and the serious guys do not need your shit.

big boy pants? listen man....all of these 'badass quitters' were in my shoes once. You all dipped, and you liked it. it tasted good mostly, and it helped you relax. No reason to get high and mighty because you're not dipping anymore. You were exactly where I am once. I'm only asking: How do I get where you are?

You have to want to quit and you obviously do not want too you just feel you need to. You may be feeling sick right now, you have a mouth sore, you have chest pains, you have something in you that is telling you that you have to quit. Well guess what, once you quit you will feel so much better and in a few weeks the nic bitch will tell you that because you are feeling better and that it will be OK to dip a little and since you don't want to quit, you will dip a little and you will have wasted all of our time. We have seen it many times.
So like we said, you need to want to quit and want to be quit with us. We will help but you had better convince us that you are worth our time.

So, no tricks or secrets whatsoever? just determination?

Determination and accountability is the name of the game around here. We all are in a quit group and we post roll call everyday saying to our quit brothers that we will not use nicotine that day. Our word is our bond. We we post roll and give our word we keep it. We do it all over again the next day and so on.

My word is as good as gold. How is your's?

Yeah, you can say I once was in your shoes. I remember the time I felt I needed to quit, but not the want. It took nearly 30 more years and several half-assed attempts because I didn't really want it. It was "only" when I want and when I was damn determined to make this a serious high priority, finding this site and listening to every bad-ass quitter who went before me, that I was successful.

How do you deal with the moodiness associated with a withdrawal. My mood is great 'normally?' but on a withdrawal....to be honest, I'm afraid I may loose my job. I'm not necessarily abrassive, but I get this, "I'm not going to take any shit from anybody attitude," and I'm in a job where I have to take a lot of shit. How do you maintain the same mood when you quit?

[Bean]

"Love the product, hate the addiction?"...I think every quitter once thought that. Nobody can quit for you. YOU must quit. I knew I wanted to quit, but Copenhagen was so much a part of my routine...mowing the lawn, driving to or from work, outdoor activities, etc. I really just enjoyed dipping...really?!!

Nicotine is a powerful drug. Copenhagen WAS SLOWLY KILLING ME AND GOING TO DISFIGURE MY JAW AND FACE BEYOND RECOGNITION and I pretended it wasn't. I knew this, and yet I refused to change. I had convinced myself that I wasn't a "heavy dipper" so it was harmless, right? I knew it would be just a matter of time until my teeth fall out or "they find something." By the way, if that happens, you'd better get your affairs in order quit because you will die soon.

True, they can remove "the suspicious site," but that will take your tongue and/or part of your jaw. What a great life you will have, huh? Besides being disfigured, you will likely only give yourself an extra six months or so to live...it comes back...

We all know this will happen...yet we convince ourselves it won't, at least not to me. Here is the truth...the only way to prevent this is to quit. THE QUESTION IS HOW?!!

The key (at least for me) was finding my motivation. I found mine it in the faces on my children. I saw a TV show commemorating the victims of September 11th...a child who has managed the last 9 years without his father. And there it was...I quit right there on the spot. NO WAY WAS I GOING TO SEND MY SON THROUGH THIS CRAZY FUCKING WORLD WITHOUT HELPING HIM. I spit out my dip and quit right then and there...cold turkey.

Then I read about the Kern family...God bless the Kern family. Tom Kern died with his children at his feet pleading for him not to go as he lost his battle with cancer. Read their story. Read his children's story. Read their entries into their diaries about how much they miss their father when they were getting ready for prom, playing baseball, etc. Is that going to be your family's story?

That is the power of nicotine...it makes your think it is harmless while it is actually killing you and torturing the folks you care most for...your spouse, your young children, your parents, your friends.

Really? Still can't quit? It is too hard to quit, right? It makes you feel all nervous and jittery, or makes you crave? I just considered how my son would "crave" to have me around as he grows up...and how "jittery" he would be as his little body shook unconsolably as he cried over funeral or disfiguring surgery. That was my motivation.

Quitting sucks...you feel like crap, angry at the world, etc. But making the right decision for my family is the best feeling in the world. This site is here to help you...just read and read, post roll call everyday, and "stay quit" one day at a time. It sucks at first, of course, but this site will even walk you through that, too. This site is an endless supply of support for folks that truly want to kick the habbit.

Well, if my words can't motivate you to quit, then I'm sorry. I have failed you. And, by the way, I don't want to ever meet you because you will be another casualty of tobacco. And it is too upsetting to me to think I had the chance to save your life, but I failed...I let you and your family down.

But, if you read these words and it motivates you to quit, there is no charge, nor any need to thank me. YOU have just saved every future family Christmas, every first-day of school, every little girl's wedding day, every little league game, every...well, every fucking everything...for you and your family. Congrats!!!