General Discussion - 2010

[LaQuitter]

Big Tobacco Bullshit

Chewie, I am sure that you've already reported on this one...but in case you haven't. I ran across this on MSN today.

Pisses me off to no end.

[DEK904]

I was diagnosed w/GERD too. As well as Tinnitus  TMJ all w/in a 3 month period. I thought I was dying. I used to wake up in the middle of the night w/such bad reflux I thought I was giving birth to a fuckingi baby calf thru my throat...still gets bad, but not as bad w/out the stress level.

Got a CT-Scan to reveal I had a wicked fucking sinus infection, which I still have today. So w/all these things going on as well as the arrival of my first child  a absess tooth that had me freakin' out, needless to say, I started having anxiety attacks  had to get on some anti-depressants...

I've since been off those, but god damn, most of this  more is a result of me dipping. Stress does FUCKED UP things to your body, take it from me....

[DJS]

Hi dip peeps!  I'm a little disturbed.  Let me just throw this out there.  I've been dipping every day for about 12 years.  In the last six months to a year I seem to of gotten pretty intollerant to a lot of different kinds of carbohydrates.  Really bad gas ect.  I always wondered if it had something to do with dipping.  I added snus to my repetoir as well in the last year because I could sneak that at work.  I started to wonder what swallowing that juice was doing to my gut... and the bacteria in the intestine etc.

We'll I quit last week.  Today is day 8.  I have quit before a few years ago and experienced some irregularity and or diareah etc.

This time its a little weird.  Starting on about day 5 I have been having non stop diareah..  but its very weird.  It does not smell like shit.  Not sure what it smells like but its like whitish oily kind of sludge.  It's really nasty stuff.

I'd be really conserned and off to the doctor emediately if I didn't just quit.  Has anything like this happened to anyone when they quit?

I didn't have this particular issue, but I can tell you that my digestion was all kinds of fucked up for quite a while after I quit. I had GERD prior to my quit and things actually got much WORSE after I quit. After a while though I got to a point where I didn't even need to take my GERD meds.

There's nothing wrong with going to see a doc if you're worried, but in all likelihood it's nothing more than "quit shits".

chewie

Thanks for the feedback. Somethings up. Hopefully it will all work itself out. I'll give it more time. I'm not the only one to quit and then something comes up where you are like.. "great I quit and now i have cancer!" Scary! But I didn't really need the scare at this point. I could of used a nice cancer scare when I was dipping. Thats for sure. I like the term "quit shits"!

[chewie]

Hi dip peeps! I'm a little disturbed. Let me just throw this out there. I've been dipping every day for about 12 years. In the last six months to a year I seem to of gotten pretty intollerant to a lot of different kinds of carbohydrates. Really bad gas ect. I always wondered if it had something to do with dipping. I added snus to my repetoir as well in the last year because I could sneak that at work. I started to wonder what swallowing that juice was doing to my gut... and the bacteria in the intestine etc.

We'll I quit last week. Today is day 8. I have quit before a few years ago and experienced some irregularity and or diareah etc.

This time its a little weird. Starting on about day 5 I have been having non stop diareah.. but its very weird. It does not smell like shit. Not sure what it smells like but its like whitish oily kind of sludge. It's really nasty stuff.

I'd be really conserned and off to the doctor emediately if I didn't just quit. Has anything like this happened to anyone when they quit?

I didn't have this particular issue, but I can tell you that my digestion was all kinds of fucked up for quite a while after I quit. I had GERD prior to my quit and things actually got much WORSE after I quit. After a while though I got to a point where I didn't even need to take my GERD meds.

There's nothing wrong with going to see a doc if you're worried, but in all likelihood it's nothing more than "quit shits".

chewie

[DJS]

Hi dip peeps! I'm a little disturbed. Let me just throw this out there. I've been dipping every day for about 12 years. In the last six months to a year I seem to of gotten pretty intollerant to a lot of different kinds of carbohydrates. Really bad gas ect. I always wondered if it had something to do with dipping. I added snus to my repetoir as well in the last year because I could sneak that at work. I started to wonder what swallowing that juice was doing to my gut... and the bacteria in the intestine etc.

We'll I quit last week. Today is day 8. I have quit before a few years ago and experienced some irregularity and or diareah etc.

This time its a little weird. Starting on about day 5 I have been having non stop diareah.. but its very weird. It does not smell like shit. Not sure what it smells like but its like whitish oily kind of sludge. It's really nasty stuff.

I'd be really conserned and off to the doctor emediately if I didn't just quit. Has anything like this happened to anyone when they quit?

[pkpzp228]

Is this where I would post general quit related questions?

For nearly as long as I've been preoccupied with nicotine I've also been preoccupied with health (go figure), I'm a little worried about post quit weight gain. 

I would like hear the experiences of some regulars, Was weight gain substantial?  Could you keep it in check with regular exercise? etc?

~cheers

Yes... perfect place for general quit questions.

I can only speak from personal experience... I gained about 30 lbs or so. Now that's not ALL quit weight, but some really bad eating habits, the fact that I had a kid 53 days prior to my quit and let my self go to shit. Had I kicked my ass back into gear I don't think it would have been nearly that significant.

That being said, weight gain is NOTHING compared to the damage I was doing to my body by stuffing my lip with chew all day every day.

I was one of those skinny fuckers that couldn't put on weight to save my life. I am in excellent physical shape and very active.

When I quit, I put on 10 lbs of muscle in about 40 days and for me that is something I could not do while I was dipping.

Your metabolism will definitely change, the important thing is not to replace your dip habit with an eating habit.

Start an exercise program that you will stay with and create good eating habits and you will be in great shape.

Hope that helps

Bragger.

:P

I had already been in a weight gain funk prior to my quit. My weight has always fluctuated wildly, depending on my general "give-a-shit" level. Since college, I've been as light as 197, and as heavy as 265. Last May, I was around 210...this New Year's, I was around 235. Subconsciously, I think quitting in February gave me an excuse to eat like crazy, drink a lot of beer, and push myself up JUST shy of 250.

I'm starting to fight back now...have worked out 3 of the last 4 nights  trying to eat much better. As was mentioned earlier, I'd much rather deal with dangerously-snug pants for awhile than cancer.

worry about your quit and your quit only right now. Do not deprive yourself of anything else you want right now. If you want a big mac, go get one.
After a while, 100 days or so, then you can start thinking about loosing weight.

I do recommend exercisig. It will make you feel much better.

Thanks for the feedback guys. Though it doesn't have any impact on my decision to quit nor my fortitude for that matter I just worry that I'll experience an (excessive) uncontrollable change in metabolism. That said I guess I shouldn't care one way or the other if it's uncontrollable anyway. I'm an avid exerciser and immediately noticed an increase of endurance around day 2 - 3, makes me wonder if nico in the blood effects oxygen uptake.

I've also found that exercise is a bit of an anti trigger in a sense. That is, dipping is the last thing I desire when I'm exercising hard so naturally exercising has become a bit of a quit crutch for me. If you could call exercise a crutch.

Anyway thanks for the support.

~cheers

[CalNotKodiakBears]

Putting gas....got the signs out, "Camel Dip".  So I guess now Joe Camel will be packing a fatty.  Death-dealing fucks.

No shit? I remember I thought I was cool smokin camels.....collected the bucks and everything. Now the only thing I like about a camel is their toes. 'archer'

Sunday, I played golf with a guy that had RedMan long cut in a little round tin. He said they are selling it for $1.49 in Illinois. Fucking pricks!

They originally sold this in 90 or 91 (when I first started).

I remember loading up on Red Man Snuff - Wintergreen when it was promo priced. It was only around for a few years though.

[MikeA]

Is this where I would post general quit related questions?

For nearly as long as I've been preoccupied with nicotine I've also been preoccupied with health (go figure), I'm a little worried about post quit weight gain. 

I would like hear the experiences of some regulars, Was weight gain substantial?  Could you keep it in check with regular exercise? etc?

~cheers

Yes... perfect place for general quit questions.

I can only speak from personal experience... I gained about 30 lbs or so. Now that's not ALL quit weight, but some really bad eating habits, the fact that I had a kid 53 days prior to my quit and let my self go to shit. Had I kicked my ass back into gear I don't think it would have been nearly that significant.

That being said, weight gain is NOTHING compared to the damage I was doing to my body by stuffing my lip with chew all day every day.

I was one of those skinny fuckers that couldn't put on weight to save my life. I am in excellent physical shape and very active.

When I quit, I put on 10 lbs of muscle in about 40 days and for me that is something I could not do while I was dipping.

Your metabolism will definitely change, the important thing is not to replace your dip habit with an eating habit.

Start an exercise program that you will stay with and create good eating habits and you will be in great shape.

Hope that helps

Bragger.

:P

I had already been in a weight gain funk prior to my quit. My weight has always fluctuated wildly, depending on my general "give-a-shit" level. Since college, I've been as light as 197, and as heavy as 265. Last May, I was around 210...this New Year's, I was around 235. Subconsciously, I think quitting in February gave me an excuse to eat like crazy, drink a lot of beer, and push myself up JUST shy of 250.

I'm starting to fight back now...have worked out 3 of the last 4 nights  trying to eat much better. As was mentioned earlier, I'd much rather deal with dangerously-snug pants for awhile than cancer.

worry about your quit and your quit only right now. Do not deprive yourself of anything else you want right now. If you want a big mac, go get one.
After a while, 100 days or so, then you can start thinking about loosing weight.

I do recommend exercisig. It will make you feel much better.

[mitch]

Is this where I would post general quit related questions?

For nearly as long as I've been preoccupied with nicotine I've also been preoccupied with health (go figure), I'm a little worried about post quit weight gain. 

I would like hear the experiences of some regulars, Was weight gain substantial?  Could you keep it in check with regular exercise? etc?

~cheers

Yes... perfect place for general quit questions.

I can only speak from personal experience... I gained about 30 lbs or so. Now that's not ALL quit weight, but some really bad eating habits, the fact that I had a kid 53 days prior to my quit and let my self go to shit. Had I kicked my ass back into gear I don't think it would have been nearly that significant.

That being said, weight gain is NOTHING compared to the damage I was doing to my body by stuffing my lip with chew all day every day.

I was one of those skinny fuckers that couldn't put on weight to save my life. I am in excellent physical shape and very active.

When I quit, I put on 10 lbs of muscle in about 40 days and for me that is something I could not do while I was dipping.

Your metabolism will definitely change, the important thing is not to replace your dip habit with an eating habit.

Start an exercise program that you will stay with and create good eating habits and you will be in great shape.

Hope that helps

Bragger.

:P

I had already been in a weight gain funk prior to my quit. My weight has always fluctuated wildly, depending on my general "give-a-shit" level. Since college, I've been as light as 197, and as heavy as 265. Last May, I was around 210...this New Year's, I was around 235. Subconsciously, I think quitting in February gave me an excuse to eat like crazy, drink a lot of beer, and push myself up JUST shy of 250.

I'm starting to fight back now...have worked out 3 of the last 4 nights  trying to eat much better. As was mentioned earlier, I'd much rather deal with dangerously-snug pants for awhile than cancer.

[sensei]

Is this where I would post general quit related questions?

For nearly as long as I've been preoccupied with nicotine I've also been preoccupied with health (go figure), I'm a little worried about post quit weight gain. 

I would like hear the experiences of some regulars, Was weight gain substantial?  Could you keep it in check with regular exercise? etc?

~cheers

Yes... perfect place for general quit questions.

I can only speak from personal experience... I gained about 30 lbs or so. Now that's not ALL quit weight, but some really bad eating habits, the fact that I had a kid 53 days prior to my quit and let my self go to shit. Had I kicked my ass back into gear I don't think it would have been nearly that significant.

That being said, weight gain is NOTHING compared to the damage I was doing to my body by stuffing my lip with chew all day every day.

I was one of those skinny fuckers that couldn't put on weight to save my life. I am in excellent physical shape and very active.

When I quit, I put on 10 lbs of muscle in about 40 days and for me that is something I could not do while I was dipping.

Your metabolism will definitely change, the important thing is not to replace your dip habit with an eating habit.

Start an exercise program that you will stay with and create good eating habits and you will be in great shape.

Hope that helps

[Death2Dip]

This is probably a dumb question, but after 86 days here, I don`t know! Why is the time of posting always messed up? It has never been right that I know of! Just curious.

I would say probably time zone

[chewie]

This is probably a dumb question, but after 86 days here, I don`t know! Why is the time of posting always messed up? It has never been right that I know of! Just curious.

My controls, board settings, time zone.

;)

[Martin]

This is probably a dumb question, but after 86 days here, I don`t know! Why is the time of posting always messed up? It has never been right that I know of! Just curious.

[chewie]

Is this where I would post general quit related questions?

For nearly as long as I've been preoccupied with nicotine I've also been preoccupied with health (go figure), I'm a little worried about post quit weight gain.

I would like hear the experiences of some regulars, Was weight gain substantial? Could you keep it in check with regular exercise? etc?

~cheers

Yes... perfect place for general quit questions.

I can only speak from personal experience... I gained about 30 lbs or so. Now that's not ALL quit weight, but some really bad eating habits, the fact that I had a kid 53 days prior to my quit and let my self go to shit. Had I kicked my ass back into gear I don't think it would have been nearly that significant.

That being said, weight gain is NOTHING compared to the damage I was doing to my body by stuffing my lip with chew all day every day.

[pkpzp228]

Is this where I would post general quit related questions?

For nearly as long as I've been preoccupied with nicotine I've also been preoccupied with health (go figure), I'm a little worried about post quit weight gain.

I would like hear the experiences of some regulars, Was weight gain substantial? Could you keep it in check with regular exercise? etc?

~cheers