General Discussion - 2014

[RES17CUE]

How's it going everyone. I guess this is as good a place as any to post. I'm 25 years old and have dipped skoal mint, straight, or grizzly wintergreen since I was 13. I was dipping at least a can a day for the last 8 years. Today I posted roll for the second time and it is my 3rd full day without any nicotine. I woke up and said "I don't want to do this anymore". I have a few cans of Baccoff wintergreen which helps a little with the oral fixation, but I'm pretty sure I just yelled at the milk carton for being too big. I'm freaking the fuck out. I have already apologized to my dog 40 times for yelling at him.

The reason I'm posting is because I want people to know my story and care that I make it. I don't want to just be another name on the roll. I can't do this alone. The temptation to get in the truck and go buy a can is killing me. Anyone have any help or words of wisdom (even if it's just "man the hell up" I'd greatly appreciate it.

[chewie]

New Blog Post: Instead Of An OdeÂ… Rap For Day 81!
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[Nolaq]

Here you go, boys.

Don't say Nolaq never gave you nothin'!

[Wt57]

So, apparently I'm a prick in the comments on the site. Certainly not my intention. Just passionate. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... mment-3952

Haha, oh little Tyler.

I better THROW out an answer as well.

This must be a conspiracy or something. You and wastepanel joining KTC 2 days apart? Are you trying to get everybody to quit? Meanies...... 'drool' I am quit for 275 days because of you guys by the way!!!!

Sorry, couldn't help myself. 'embarrassed'

Fucking tool.

Chewie you crazy statistician, the only real numbers that I see you throwing around is the number of quitters KTC has assisted. I'm glad Tyler had such an easy time quitting and that he is concerned his old man might be one of the "6". Cancer sucks no matter what the odds.

[Nolaq]

So, apparently I'm a prick in the comments on the site. Certainly not my intention. Just passionate. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... mment-3952

Haha, oh little Tyler.

I better THROW out an answer as well.

This must be a conspiracy or something. You and wastepanel joining KTC 2 days apart? Are you trying to get everybody to quit? Meanies...... 'drool' I am quit for 275 days because of you guys by the way!!!!

Sorry, couldn't help myself. 'embarrassed'

Fucking tool.

[Doc2quit4good]

So, apparently I'm a prick in the comments on the site. Certainly not my intention. Just passionate. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... mment-3952

Haha, oh little Tyler.

I better THROW out an answer as well.

This must be a conspiracy or something. You and wastepanel joining KTC 2 days apart? Are you trying to get everybody to quit? Meanies...... 'drool' I am quit for 275 days because of you guys by the way!!!!

[wastepanel]

So, apparently I'm a prick in the comments on the site. Certainly not my intention. Just passionate. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... mment-3952

Haha, oh little Tyler.

I better THROW out an answer as well.

[chewie]

So, apparently I'm a prick in the comments on the site. Certainly not my intention. Just passionate. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... mment-3952

[Wt57]

Tony Gwynn, another reason to quit. It amazes me to see a increase in membership after the death or diagnosis of cancer of a public figure or someone we know personally. Over the decades of my addiction I had more of these scares than I can count and more planned quits than I want to think about. I sat with a friend and watched oral cancer literally eat his face away. Did I quit? No! I quit 40 or more New Years Days, birthdays, 33 wedding anniversaries, 30 birthdays of my daughter and had hundreds of other good intended attempts. I don't want to criticize anyone's reasons or motivation for quitting but I predict that the influx of Tony Gwynn motivated quitters will dwindle over the next few weeks. Addiction is a powerful motivation to continue dipping, our body acquired a stronger and stronger need to be satisfied with more and more nicotine. Until we as addicts finally get tired of being controlled and want to experience freedom it won't happen.
To be honest I still don't have the freedom I desire. Sure I've been nicotine free for 800+ days but I'm still not free of the occasional craving and dip thoughts. Being successful ODAAT leads to a level of self satisfaction that as an addict I never experienced.
May all of us addicts have the desire and strength to win against this powerful drug.

[wastepanel]

I am new to this site. I have posted roll the last 2 days and am almost 48 hours dip free. I am actually doing pretty well as far as not wanting to dip. I am too stubborn now that i have made my decision, and too pissed off that i let that shit control me for 11 years.

The part I am struggling with is my body is fucked. i cant sleep, i cant shit, i have a pounding headache, and feel very foggy. Also i have this fear that the damage is already done. Im scared I may have already fucked myself up. I dont have anything that looks wierd in my mouth or anything but ive had a sore throat for a few days and some swollen lymph nodes in my neck and im scared shitless of the worst case scenarios. Maybe part of it is my head is just a little messed off from the lack of nicotine...either way I will not go back. I will post roll every day and not let myself down, or my family, or anyone here. What i am wondering is if anyone else has had a similiar experience to the things i am struggling with right now? Any insight would be helpful and appreciated

Get through the moment because it gets better....waaaaaay better.

We tortured our bodies for years, and the initial suck is well deserved but nasty. We're lucky it only lasts a few days until the poison is out of our systems. Once it is, you begin to heal.

Drink water (lots of it), and avoid caffeine as much as possible. And when I say water, I mean I want you to be unable to walk past a bathroom without stopping.

Exercise-run if you don't already. Do push-ups. The sweat pushes the poison out.

Make some friends here and read, read, and read! You have a whole band of brothers kicking themselves for the abuse they did on their bodies. Surely, you can find a common bond.

How many numbers you got?

Nolaq and wastepanel...appreciate the advice. I did an intro page (i think anyways, not very tech savvy). Trying to figure out everything on here while being this irritable is a bad combo, but everyones advice and encouragement is helping me a lot as far as dealing with this hell of the first few days. Have been reading a ton and it helps. Will try more water...heading to take the dog for a run now

Ps you mean phone numbers?

Yes, I do mean phone numbers.

We've all been where you are, and we all walk the same path today. Some days, the path is easier to walk and some days...it's not.

Grab some numbers from your brothers, and hit up a few vets as well (poking you mine as soon as this is posted). Vets are awesome, but you got a ton of brothers that are going through the same shit you currently are. Stand back to back. If you protect, you'll be protected. There's a ton of good and interesting folks here.

I know it sucks now, but it gets to be fun. Laugh, and be glad. What you are doing is truly badass and nobody can tell you any different.

[Paul1231]

I am new to this site. I have posted roll the last 2 days and am almost 48 hours dip free. I am actually doing pretty well as far as not wanting to dip. I am too stubborn now that i have made my decision, and too pissed off that i let that shit control me for 11 years.

The part I am struggling with is my body is fucked. i cant sleep, i cant shit, i have a pounding headache, and feel very foggy. Also i have this fear that the damage is already done. Im scared I may have already fucked myself up. I dont have anything that looks wierd in my mouth or anything but ive had a sore throat for a few days and some swollen lymph nodes in my neck and im scared shitless of the worst case scenarios. Maybe part of it is my head is just a little messed off from the lack of nicotine...either way I will not go back. I will post roll every day and not let myself down, or my family, or anyone here. What i am wondering is if anyone else has had a similiar experience to the things i am struggling with right now? Any insight would be helpful and appreciated

Get through the moment because it gets better....waaaaaay better.

We tortured our bodies for years, and the initial suck is well deserved but nasty. We're lucky it only lasts a few days until the poison is out of our systems. Once it is, you begin to heal.

Drink water (lots of it), and avoid caffeine as much as possible. And when I say water, I mean I want you to be unable to walk past a bathroom without stopping.

Exercise-run if you don't already. Do push-ups. The sweat pushes the poison out.

Make some friends here and read, read, and read! You have a whole band of brothers kicking themselves for the abuse they did on their bodies. Surely, you can find a common bond.

How many numbers you got?

Nolaq and wastepanel...appreciate the advice. I did an intro page (i think anyways, not very tech savvy). Trying to figure out everything on here while being this irritable is a bad combo, but everyones advice and encouragement is helping me a lot as far as dealing with this hell of the first few days. Have been reading a ton and it helps. Will try more water...heading to take the dog for a run now

Ps you mean phone numbers?

[wastepanel]

I am new to this site. I have posted roll the last 2 days and am almost 48 hours dip free. I am actually doing pretty well as far as not wanting to dip. I am too stubborn now that i have made my decision, and too pissed off that i let that shit control me for 11 years.

The part I am struggling with is my body is fucked. i cant sleep, i cant shit, i have a pounding headache, and feel very foggy. Also i have this fear that the damage is already done. Im scared I may have already fucked myself up. I dont have anything that looks wierd in my mouth or anything but ive had a sore throat for a few days and some swollen lymph nodes in my neck and im scared shitless of the worst case scenarios. Maybe part of it is my head is just a little messed off from the lack of nicotine...either way I will not go back. I will post roll every day and not let myself down, or my family, or anyone here. What i am wondering is if anyone else has had a similiar experience to the things i am struggling with right now? Any insight would be helpful and appreciated

Get through the moment because it gets better....waaaaaay better.

We tortured our bodies for years, and the initial suck is well deserved but nasty. We're lucky it only lasts a few days until the poison is out of our systems. Once it is, you begin to heal.

Drink water (lots of it), and avoid caffeine as much as possible. And when I say water, I mean I want you to be unable to walk past a bathroom without stopping.

Exercise-run if you don't already. Do push-ups. The sweat pushes the poison out.

Make some friends here and read, read, and read! You have a whole band of brothers kicking themselves for the abuse they did on their bodies. Surely, you can find a common bond.

How many numbers you got?

[Nolaq]

I am new to this site. I have posted roll the last 2 days and am almost 48 hours dip free. I am actually doing pretty well as far as not wanting to dip. I am too stubborn now that i have made my decision, and too pissed off that i let that shit control me for 11 years.

The part I am struggling with is my body is fucked. i cant sleep, i cant shit, i have a pounding headache, and feel very foggy. Also i have this fear that the damage is already done. Im scared I may have already fucked myself up. I dont have anything that looks wierd in my mouth or anything but ive had a sore throat for a few days and some swollen lymph nodes in my neck and im scared shitless of the worst case scenarios. Maybe part of it is my head is just a little messed off from the lack of nicotine...either way I will not go back. I will post roll every day and not let myself down, or my family, or anyone here. What i am wondering is if anyone else has had a similiar experience to the things i am struggling with right now? Any insight would be helpful and appreciated

Breathe.

Breathe again.

Anxiety. Depression. Freaking the fuck out. Not being able to put two words together in a coherent sentence. Being so pissed off at the fucking remote when it runs out of batteries. Hating the sound of your boss' nasal breathing. Not being able to sleep. Not hungry. Just want to drink 1000 gallons of fucking coffee, but you already have the shakes.

All of that is your body throwing a temper tantrum.

Put that shit in the corner and breathe. Your body is fucked right now, fo sho'. This will pass.

Suggestions: Drink an ass ton of water. Exercise. Do both of those a lot. Also, post just like you did. Go make your own Intro page. The support you get there will overwhelm you.

Welcome Paul. Best decision ever.

[Paul1231]

I am new to this site. I have posted roll the last 2 days and am almost 48 hours dip free. I am actually doing pretty well as far as not wanting to dip. I am too stubborn now that i have made my decision, and too pissed off that i let that shit control me for 11 years.

The part I am struggling with is my body is fucked. i cant sleep, i cant shit, i have a pounding headache, and feel very foggy. Also i have this fear that the damage is already done. Im scared I may have already fucked myself up. I dont have anything that looks wierd in my mouth or anything but ive had a sore throat for a few days and some swollen lymph nodes in my neck and im scared shitless of the worst case scenarios. Maybe part of it is my head is just a little messed off from the lack of nicotine...either way I will not go back. I will post roll every day and not let myself down, or my family, or anyone here. What i am wondering is if anyone else has had a similiar experience to the things i am struggling with right now? Any insight would be helpful and appreciated

[chewie]

Found this community a few months back - hopefully I can use it to get off this stuff.

I'm 25, had my first dip around age 17. For the past ~5 years I've dipped virtually every night before bed. I don't get cravings during the day and the only time I want to dip is as I'm going to sleep, but its a strong behavioral addiction. It feels really strange to not have my moment of relaxation with my Grizzly pouches as I'm laying in bed.

My non-doctor opinion would be that I'm more addicted to that moment of relaxation than I am to the actual nicotine. Over the years I've gradually increased the amount of pouches I put in during my nightly ritual. These days I'm up to 4-5 pouches.

When I'm at my girlfriend's place I have to slip off to the bathroom to have my dip. Sometimes I avoid going to her place just so I can have my dip in my own bed. I'm pissed that it controls me that much. Time to stop messing around and get off this stuff. I've had a few half ass quit attempts in the past couple years, but I am more serious this time around.

There's no "more serious". Either you are serious, or you are not.

I'm 35 years old and have been dipping Skoal Mint for 15 years. Last month, I was going through 2 can's of snuff a day. I weened myself down using hard candy and pouches, and had my last pouch yesterday at 7:30 PM. I logged my first roll call today. I am quitting for me. I am quitting because I want to see me two young daughters go to their first day of school. I am quitting so that I can teach my daughters how to drive. I am quitting because I want to walk my daughters down the aisle. I am quitting for me.

2 posts in... this guy fucking gets it.

Welcome to both of you!