General Discussion - 2018

[Goody]

Hi guys itÂ’s been 31 days since my last dip, I quit cold turkey (this is hard) I gone to 2 dentist appointments they all say tissue and gums look great and gone to 3 doctor appointments they say im good, but i keep thinking I have cancer of the mouth, every night I look in the mirror with a flash light and see something new or feel something new, IÂ’m going crazy, and to make things worst I keep reading things online that are negative, like you will get oral cancer because you dipped. Is this common or am I just crazy? I use to be so energetic and now im just off. I have 2 young kids and wife that I love and I feel like an asshole for dipping this long (10 years). I donÂ’t know what to do and im only 33 years old. This is hard but I wont go back

Hey brother, good you're posting here but I don't recall seeing you in one of the quit groups. You can roll solo if you want but it sure is better with a wingman (or two, or 12, or 49). You commit to the group, they commit to you. As iron sharpens iron so the saying goes...
I'm with you on the cancer concerns. It IS an uneasy feeling and steals your peace. Quitting is in your favor though; you certainly can't help the situation with another chew.
Aside from the quit groups (by far the most valuable resource) there's a lot of information on the site and I encourage you to poke around and make yourself familiar with it.
Join a group and start posting roll - TODAY

Hello EOEO, I just wanted to say that you are not alone. I dipped for 40 straight years and happy to say 24 day without. I have, and now feel everything your talking about. And it is this site that is getting me through it. Just knowing your not alone. We all seem to have the same stories. You have to talk to someone that is in your shoes. No one else could possible understand what your dealing with. I had a really bad day on #21 for me . The wife wanted me to describe how I was feeling and when I finished she didn't get it. Although she wanted to she has no addictions. She can't understand what it is like. Stick to the site, MAKE ROLL every morning that really helps. And stand strong. Just remember you are not alone.

[Athan]

Hi guys itÂ’s been 31 days since my last dip, I quit cold turkey (this is hard) I gone to 2 dentist appointments they all say tissue and gums look great and gone to 3 doctor appointments they say im good, but i keep thinking I have cancer of the mouth, every night I look in the mirror with a flash light and see something new or feel something new, IÂ’m going crazy, and to make things worst I keep reading things online that are negative, like you will get oral cancer because you dipped. Is this common or am I just crazy? I use to be so energetic and now im just off. I have 2 young kids and wife that I love and I feel like an asshole for dipping this long (10 years). I donÂ’t know what to do and im only 33 years old. This is hard but I wont go back

Hey brother, good you're posting here but I don't recall seeing you in one of the quit groups. You can roll solo if you want but it sure is better with a wingman (or two, or 12, or 49). You commit to the group, they commit to you. As iron sharpens iron so the saying goes...
I'm with you on the cancer concerns. It IS an uneasy feeling and steals your peace. Quitting is in your favor though; you certainly can't help the situation with another chew.
Aside from the quit groups (by far the most valuable resource) there's a lot of information on the site and I encourage you to poke around and make yourself familiar with it.
Join a group and start posting roll - TODAY

[EOEO]

Hi guys itÂ’s been 31 days since my last dip, I quit cold turkey (this is hard) I gone to 2 dentist appointments they all say tissue and gums look great and gone to 3 doctor appointments they say im good, but i keep thinking I have cancer of the mouth, every night I look in the mirror with a flash light and see something new or feel something new, IÂ’m going crazy, and to make things worst I keep reading things online that are negative, like you will get oral cancer because you dipped. Is this common or am I just crazy? I use to be so energetic and now im just off. I have 2 young kids and wife that I love and I feel like an asshole for dipping this long (10 years). I donÂ’t know what to do and im only 33 years old. This is hard but I wont go back

[chris2alaska]

I actually dreamed about the shit last night. Dreamed I put a pinch in and savored it. Even there in my sleep I felt the shame. I can't believe it invades my sleep!

Dude,

I had the same dream two nights ago. I woke up thinking, "WTF have I done. I broke my promise." Then I realized it was a dream but I still felt like shit.

[chewie]

I just started quitting earlier today and I already want to get a buzz on. It making have an "itch" and I don't like it. What should I get? Chewing gum? I was thinking sunflower seeds since its kinda of simulates it. 'bang head'

I've been using cinnamon sticks. An old guy that I worked with years ago said that's how he quit smoking so I tried it. It helps with the oral fixation. The KTC community is where it's at though.
Post roll every day, first thing and just do that. You can always call a brother and talk (would highly recommend this for the first week). You just gotta make it through today, that's it.
Matt 6:34

There's a ton of great fake dips out there that have no nicotine and no tobacco if you're looking for something to "scratch that itch".

https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/sm ... ernatives/

[Athan]

I just started quitting earlier today and I already want to get a buzz on. It making have an "itch" and I don't like it. What should I get? Chewing gum? I was thinking sunflower seeds since its kinda of simulates it. 'bang head'

I've been using cinnamon sticks. An old guy that I worked with years ago said that's how he quit smoking so I tried it. It helps with the oral fixation. The KTC community is where it's at though.
Post roll every day, first thing and just do that. You can always call a brother and talk (would highly recommend this for the first week). You just gotta make it through today, that's it.
Matt 6:34

[MECHCOMMANDO]

I just started quitting earlier today and I already want to get a buzz on. It making have an "itch" and I don't like it. What should I get? Chewing gum? I was thinking sunflower seeds since its kinda of simulates it. 'bang head'

[Chillyjoyner]

I quit yesterday after 20 years. My will-power is on board, but every few minutes my mind reminds me it is time to put in a dip. I say no, not this time.

The resources on this page https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/wh ... t-dipping/ are amazing and dead on. Knowing others know what I'm going through and what to expect, I think, this time, I'm going to be able to killthecan.

Thank you

[JB65]

I actually dreamed about the shit last night. Dreamed I put a pinch in and savored it. Even there in my sleep I felt the shame. I can't believe it invades my sleep!

Great job on the quitting Athan. Great post.

Your right, this quitting thing is not easy. I still have dip dreams. So real it seems i need to get up and star at day 1 again. That was a yuuuuge point for me, admitting i was an addict, will be forever and accepting it.

I do, as I'm sure many vets do, a whole lot of thinking on the 'addiction' thing. In the early days, when I would see dip or smell it, i would want one. Even seeing a stogie, which i used to enjoy occasionally, i wanted one.

Now, no way. The stench of chew is maddening. Disgusting. I will have to admit tho, i do crave a stogie every now and again, - golfing, sitting around the firepit... but as you said " I'm an addict".

I'm an addict and cant have 'nice things'. Like a cigar for example. My addictive personality would take over, and lead to other things. In this case, past performance IS indicative of future results. Ive seen me ruin a quit before, Ive seen me cave.... and its imply not going to happen.

Since I joined this place 906 days ago, I've built a wall of quit brick by brick, day by day, digits by digits i have in my phone, its getting higher every day. The bricks are my days quit, the mortar is my KTC family. These are useless alone, but put them together and its solid.

Look forward to hearing more about your quit, PM me anytime, if you need digits I'd be happy to share. Giving back it the friggin KEY to this place man. JB

[Athan]

I actually dreamed about the shit last night. Dreamed I put a pinch in and savored it. Even there in my sleep I felt the shame. I can't believe it invades my sleep!

[Athan]

Had to get outside. She's driving me crazy. With the nicotine, any excuse will do and I've allowed her to be that excuse so many times in the past. Not today. Something inherently masculine about splitting wood with a wedge and a sledge. I could feel the blood of my Spartan ancestors coursing through my veins. No way the Spartan warrior was a slave to lusts of the flesh. The core of their ethos was mastery of self. Normally, I would have had a great big fatty in there while I went about the task. Went for a stick of cinnamon instead. Took the edge off of things for a bit. Been pondering the addiction thing lately. It's a lot bigger than I realized. I now know why previous quits have failed. In the past, it was just a can that I put down for a bit and took back up again; something I viewed rather myopically. The broader view and broader implications have become starkly clear since I joined KTC. It was always just a bad habit, like biting your nails or picking you nose; not an addiction. I've had to get honest and admit that - I'm a nicotine addict. Read somewhere on here that it doesn't define me (wise words) but does affect my decisions and behaviors. I'm liking the roll call and the commitment every morning, first thing. Liking the veterans who have stuck around and reach out periodically and open to requests for help. Hope to be there for another brother some day. Kind of therapeutic to sit down and write all this out. Hope you all don't mind the rambling. Was feeling a trigger earlier and posted, got some support and feedback and I'm still quit. Glad to be here.

[Stranger999]

new here, 1st post, dont know if this is the right spot for my question.
I quit 60+ days ago. things actually went pretty good in the beginning. i have had a headache for 3 weeks plus now. I have other aches and pains and heartburn. heartburn to an extreme level all day. I am not in danger of starting up again but I felt soooo much better when I chewed. my attitude has hit an all-time low and I even broke up with my girlfriend. Any feedback would be great. has anyone else had this happen after everything went so well to start. I will add that I have been around nicotine my entire life. 50+ years old.

I was a heartburn guy too.... I felt like complete dogshit when I quit. I know it won't help much right now but trust me when I say, it gets better.

Give this a read... may give you some insight into what you're dealing with, or at least let you know you're not alone in what you're experiencing: https://www.killthecan.org/heartburn-when-quitting-dip/

Chewie

60+ days may seem like a lot. It may seem that you should magically feel much better. I used nicotine most of my life and didn't quit until I was 49 years old. 35 plus years of nicotine use. I'm almost to 900 days now and I still feel like nicotine has its fangs in me. Stay on the path and it does get better, one day at a time.

My advice is to find your quit group and start posting roll every damn day. Quitting with a team gives you a better shot at beating nicotine for good than quitting by yourself.

I quit with you today. Stranger999 day 882

[chris2alaska]

Hey guys,

I won 2 cans of Chatahoochie herbal snuff (fake dip...no nicotine, no tobacco) They are whiskey flavored pouches. I really have no need for them so thought if anyone wanted one or both cans, you could PM your address to me and I would mail them to you. I opened one can to smell but have not touched the product. The other can is unopened.

Quit with you all Today,

Chris

[chewie]

new here, 1st post, dont know if this is the right spot for my question.
I quit 60+ days ago. things actually went pretty good in the beginning. i have had a headache for 3 weeks plus now. I have other aches and pains and heartburn. heartburn to an extreme level all day. I am not in danger of starting up again but I felt soooo much better when I chewed. my attitude has hit an all-time low and I even broke up with my girlfriend. Any feedback would be great. has anyone else had this happen after everything went so well to start. I will add that I have been around nicotine my entire life. 50+ years old.

I was a heartburn guy too.... I felt like complete dogshit when I quit. I know it won't help much right now but trust me when I say, it gets better.

Give this a read... may give you some insight into what you're dealing with, or at least let you know you're not alone in what you're experiencing: https://www.killthecan.org/heartburn-when-quitting-dip/

Chewie

[coco62]

new here, 1st post, dont know if this is the right spot for my question.
I quit 60+ days ago. things actually went pretty good in the beginning. i have had a headache for 3 weeks plus now. I have other aches and pains and heartburn. heartburn to an extreme level all day. I am not in danger of starting up again but I felt soooo much better when I chewed. my attitude has hit an all-time low and I even broke up with my girlfriend. Any feedback would be great. has anyone else had this happen after everything went so well to start. I will add that I have been around nicotine my entire life. 50+ years old.