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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #146 on: June 03, 2012, 10:19:00 AM »
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On and on, it never stops ~ some group is always moaning about posting - or some re-tread comes back in posting Day 1 again and uses the I didn't post roll often enough and slipped away.

This site is about accountability-responsible to somebody or for something

So the $64,000 question is who are you responsible to and who is depending on you?

If you didn’t post roll one day, how many people would notice?  Likewise, how many people out there are you holding accountable if they miss?
I love your post.
Agreed!

Use the site for its purpose and all gets better!

Accountability!

Get numbers and use numbers! Reach out and help and you will develop a much stronger QUIT!!
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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #145 on: June 02, 2012, 11:45:00 PM »
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On and on, it never stops ~ some group is always moaning about posting - or some re-tread comes back in posting Day 1 again and uses the I didn't post roll often enough and slipped away.

This site is about accountability-responsible to somebody or for something

So the $64,000 question is who are you responsible to and who is depending on you?

If you didnÂ’t post roll one day, how many people would notice? Likewise, how many people out there are you holding accountable if they miss?
I love your post.

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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #144 on: June 02, 2012, 01:22:00 PM »
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On and on, it never stops ~ some group is always moaning about posting - or some re-tread comes back in posting Day 1 again and uses the I didn't post roll often enough and slipped away.

This site is about accountability-responsible to somebody or for something

So the $64,000 question is who are you responsible to and who is depending on you?

If you didnÂ’t post roll one day, how many people would notice? Likewise, how many people out there are you holding accountable if they miss?
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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #143 on: May 31, 2012, 09:41:00 AM »
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It's been said so many times on this site - it's not personal, it's about the quit or take what you can and leave the rest...

Filter out everything else out- the only thing of importance is your quit and keeping your word to your brothers and sisters here

everything else is noise
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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #142 on: April 27, 2012, 02:15:00 PM »
How do we judge success here? Easy right, we stay quit. Zero Tolerance is the benchmark.
ItÂ’s a lofty goal, especially for the new quitter. Our nicotine lace minds can see ourselves quit for all of 1 day max and itÂ’s screaming for the next fix. ItÂ’s a physical and mental conditioning that we have allowed ourselves to fall into. How do we get out of said trap?

Do we subscribe to the hardcore boot camp reprogramming or is a laissez-faire mentality the way to go? Some of you already know me and my stance on the subject so for you new guys, itÂ’s not the latter. There is no negotiating with the nic bitch. Let me be perfectly clear here. It should be a black and white not grey area question to be answered.

Coach Steve has dubbed the phrase QLF. donÂ’t know what that means? Click on the linked QLF and read it QLF is an attitude. You do one thing over and over and it becomes second nature. When you take nicotine off the table every morning without argument and repeat to yourself, QLF, it also becomes a mantra.

Mantra, an expression or idea that is repeated, often without thinking about it and closely associated with something.- Yeah, just like my quit!

OopsÂ… I touched on a sore subject. Taking nicotine off the table every day but posting roll. Why is that concept so difficult to wrap our brains around? Is it because we donÂ’t want to burn our bridges? Yes, we kind of want to be around for our wives/families with jaw intact??? Really- I want to live life to the fullest and enjoy every day God gives me. Posting roll is our way of committing ourselves and telling our brothers/sisters that we will look each other in the eye and swear by all things holy that we will not use nicotine today. I guess if you donÂ’t have that same conviction, you shouldnÂ’t bother reading the rest of this post.

Still with me? Good! Good read QLF again and come back. You energized? What is your quit meter measuring? Mushroom Cloud Laying MFer - Superfly TNT - IÂ’m the Guns of Navarone. You ain't got no problem, Jules. I'm on the mfer. Go back in there, chill them nxxxxxs out and wait for the Wolf who should be coming directly. (little Pulp Fiction)

So weÂ’ve agreed to:
Post roll daily
We fulfill our promise
We repeat

With nicotine off the table every morning, our brains can start to focus on other things that we may have neglected over the years. Guilty as charged. IÂ’ve tried to make a mental note of thinking through my entire response before letting my mouth get too far ahead of me. Secondly, I have set myself a 34 week training program to run a marathon. This might not be what you need or want to work on, but find something that will challenge you physically, mentally and spiritually.

WeÂ’ve got a lot of living left. Get to it
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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #141 on: April 23, 2012, 09:12:00 AM »
This is WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT

QLF
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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #140 on: April 20, 2012, 09:42:00 AM »
Today we are witness to another cave.

Folks, how many times does this have to happen before it sinks in?

12,775 days, that is how long I polluted my body with nicotine. IÂ’m posting for the 112th consecutive time of my 112 day quit. Bully for me? Sure if posting 100% meant that I was free for life, unfortunately it means diddly squat! I take that back, it means I am embracing the brotherhood concept this site was built upon. The WE as my quit brother and friend calls it is what will bind us together, help us on our daily fight as well as lift us up or give us a kick in the shorts if we need it.

I canÂ’t count the number of caves that have been posted here since my quit started last New YearÂ’s Eve but I am willing to bet nearly 100% of them were the result of the caver drifting away.

Do yourself a favor – get serious or get out
I am a QLF Crewmember
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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #139 on: April 18, 2012, 10:18:00 AM »
day 110

things I wished I had learned in the first week here

I saw this line a week ago. The "tools plus the personal contacts made on KTC are like bullets." They must be loaded with determination, the gun must be aimed accurately and then the trigger must be pulled in order to hit your target.

Building friendships among your quit brothers adds another layer to your quit but it is action oriented and for many it will take you out of your comfort level. It takes time to seek someone out, to get to know them, to share with them and soon trust them. How likely are you to cheat on your friend?

Get outside of yourself and stop focusing only on yourself. But IÂ’m hurting you say. I reply, go find someone who is hurting more. Find a way to encourage or challenge your brother to take one more step. When you stop focusing on your own pain and help another, two quits are strengthened in the process.

Use the ChatLive room- a whole different environment all together

Exercise coupled with an increase of water consumption, to date, has been one of the best activities to combat the nic bitch. Exercise and water will help flush out the poison weÂ’ve ingested for years and it is good for every aspect of your quit. The release of the anxiousness, pent up anger or rage with the benefit of dedicated thought time. Start becoming a better man/woman. If the stress and rage becomes too much, log on and vent to your group. Never, and I mean never vent on your family.

WeÂ’re learning to recondition our thought and response methods. .ItÂ’s funny how we like to romance our history with nicotine. We had all the same emotional ups and downs we have now. What did nicotine really do ~ nothing. There is no clarity enhancing characteristic in the chemical compound of nicotine, we just associated it and choose to remember it that way.

No fingerprint is identical; neither is the quit for any member here; however, you are joining an organization created by quitters and this site has seen it all. Remember this: “It ain’t personal, it’s about the quit” and in most cases the guys offering you advice are trying to help you so just listen. Your "quit is in infancy stage" so park your attitude and ego. You are not a special butterfly.

This site is based on honor, brotherhood, accountability and success. What are you doing with your quit when no one is watching?
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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #138 on: April 14, 2012, 01:53:00 PM »
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Day 106-

Think the nic bitch is working overtime.  I’ve had 3 dip dreams in the first 100 days or so and have had a dream the last three nights in a row now.  Wondering if it’s the workout program – infant stages of marathon training in Dec 2012
I think its your free mind playing games with you!

The nic-bitch is a sneaky take every opportunity she can kinda bitch so anytime you feel good about yourself or start to relax she will try to pop in to say hello and try to make you cave!

You stay strong and stay focused and she will realize your resolve will not give in and she will again go away!

Keep on quiting quiter!!!
I spent roughly 25 years stuffing cancer candy in my pie hole. At 500+ days I still get dip dreams. They're not every night but they happen. Keep fighting. As long as you're riding goats and sucking cancer candy in your dreams and not in the conscious moments of life, you're a step ahead.

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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #137 on: April 14, 2012, 08:24:00 AM »
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Think the nic bitch is working overtime. I’ve had 3 dip dreams in the first 100 days or so and have had a dream the last three nights in a row now. Wondering if it’s the workout program – infant stages of marathon training in Dec 2012
I think its your free mind playing games with you!

The nic-bitch is a sneaky take every opportunity she can kinda bitch so anytime you feel good about yourself or start to relax she will try to pop in to say hello and try to make you cave!

You stay strong and stay focused and she will realize your resolve will not give in and she will again go away!

Keep on quiting quiter!!!
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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #136 on: April 14, 2012, 08:08:00 AM »
Day 106-

Think the nic bitch is working overtime. I’ve had 3 dip dreams in the first 100 days or so and have had a dream the last three nights in a row now. Wondering if it’s the workout program – infant stages of marathon training in Dec 2012
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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #135 on: April 12, 2012, 06:52:00 PM »
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Day 104

A mix of emotions crowds my thought this morning regarding the recent posts by a couple of dropouts from April 2012.  I sit here speechless - right hold the applause
Two separate speeches from two members of the glass of April (albeit not active members) decided to give this site credit for the quit and in the same breath flipped off most everyone on the site.  If spite or anger is what drives any decision, history and my experience shows that it will end poorly. 

This site is based on brotherhood, accountability and success.  The first two are achieved by posting roll on a daily basis and the latter is the culmination or the fruition of the first two.  If you decide not to post roll daily, YOU WILL CATCH FLACK.  It part of the reprogramming of our habits.  Along with the reprogramming, the vets offer up their experience and warn of activities that are best to avoid early in one’s quit.

In both instances, each of these guys were not willing post regularly or avoid certain activities early in their quit,  so they reaped the whirlwind of the vets trying to help these guys adopt new habits to offset nicotine.  Feel free to crawl back through the annals of April 2012 and you will plainly see “strongly worded encouragement” being offered.  In the end, both of these guys left the site saying the “internet tough guy” role was too much.  Guess neither of these guys were ever underclassmen or the “fish” on a sports team. 

Being able to separate the emotion and rage of your present circumstances while a vet is “bullying” you is critical. Did I explode?  Yes.  It might be hard to find but it’s there.  Would I have handled it differently now, probably but I am glad that I didn’t put petty emotion in front of my brotherhood.

If you do decide to leave this site, for whatever reason do it with class and dignity.

Above all STAY QUIT!
Very well put!

The bottom line here is everyone came to this site for the HELP! I am not sure why when they get the help they then decide to go all molly pissy pants and take their ball and go home.......

I agree with Cbird in that no matter what stay quit and I also agree that if you are going to leave do so with class.

Just my $.02
Well put Cbird, and you know I feel exactly the same way. I would like to add one thing though and I'll keep it brief since it's your Intro thread.

This site is littered with stories of quitters who tried once, told everyone to fuck off, then failed, and then came back and accepted the err of their ways. It is also littered with poor souls that told everyone to fuck off, failed, but did not return because of their foolish pride or because of shame. Then you have our two most recent April dropouts. They profess not to need KTC or any of the accountability that it provides, yet they took the time to return and post a BS HOF speech. At least one of them has returned and taken the time to re-engage on the forums under the guise that "he just wanted to piss Coach Steve off because I called him out."

If you ask me, you two ass clowns need KTC and us more than you'd like to admit. Even if it's just the spite that's driving your quits right now. Well....who do you think created those spiteful feelings? That's right, US. As always, I hope you stay quit.
i like this ship but i really don't care for it that a few "quitters" feel it necessary to say they're quit but, as we say in texas, act ugly.
everything about ktc is about support and help and if somebody gets their feathers ruffled it's their shit. defensiveness, irritability, shadow, not dealing with their own stuff.
but then, that's pretty much how everything is - it's just that this community super-charges it.
it's like what they say about being famous; if you're a kind person before you get famous, you'll just be more kind when everyone's watching. if you're a dickhead before you get famous, you'll be the biggest dickhead on earth when you're in the spotlight.
the quit brings out everything that's in there. just more so. and there's a lot that we like to keep in the shadows if we can. especially cuz we're addicts and we don't think straight about our addiction and the issues that go with it.

you think the problem is ktc? it's just a big mirror.

boom.

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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #134 on: April 12, 2012, 11:10:00 AM »
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Quote from: CBird65
Day 104

A mix of emotions crowds my thought this morning regarding the recent posts by a couple of dropouts from April 2012.  I sit here speechless - right hold the applause
Two separate speeches from two members of the glass of April (albeit not active members) decided to give this site credit for the quit and in the same breath flipped off most everyone on the site.  If spite or anger is what drives any decision, history and my experience shows that it will end poorly. 

This site is based on brotherhood, accountability and success.  The first two are achieved by posting roll on a daily basis and the latter is the culmination or the fruition of the first two.  If you decide not to post roll daily, YOU WILL CATCH FLACK.  It part of the reprogramming of our habits.  Along with the reprogramming, the vets offer up their experience and warn of activities that are best to avoid early in one’s quit.

In both instances, each of these guys were not willing post regularly or avoid certain activities early in their quit,  so they reaped the whirlwind of the vets trying to help these guys adopt new habits to offset nicotine.  Feel free to crawl back through the annals of April 2012 and you will plainly see “strongly worded encouragement” being offered.  In the end, both of these guys left the site saying the “internet tough guy” role was too much.  Guess neither of these guys were ever underclassmen or the “fish” on a sports team. 

Being able to separate the emotion and rage of your present circumstances while a vet is “bullying” you is critical. Did I explode?  Yes.  It might be hard to find but it’s there.  Would I have handled it differently now, probably but I am glad that I didn’t put petty emotion in front of my brotherhood.

If you do decide to leave this site, for whatever reason do it with class and dignity.

Above all STAY QUIT!
Very well put!

The bottom line here is everyone came to this site for the HELP! I am not sure why when they get the help they then decide to go all molly pissy pants and take their ball and go home.......

I agree with Cbird in that no matter what stay quit and I also agree that if you are going to leave do so with class.

Just my $.02
Well put Cbird, and you know I feel exactly the same way. I would like to add one thing though and I'll keep it brief since it's your Intro thread.

This site is littered with stories of quitters who tried once, told everyone to fuck off, then failed, and then came back and accepted the err of their ways. It is also littered with poor souls that told everyone to fuck off, failed, but did not return because of their foolish pride or because of shame. Then you have our two most recent April dropouts. They profess not to need KTC or any of the accountability that it provides, yet they took the time to return and post a BS HOF speech. At least one of them has returned and taken the time to re-engage on the forums under the guise that "he just wanted to piss Coach Steve off because I called him out."

If you ask me, you two ass clowns need KTC and us more than you'd like to admit. Even if it's just the spite that's driving your quits right now. Well....who do you think created those spiteful feelings? That's right, US. As always, I hope you stay quit.
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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #133 on: April 12, 2012, 09:05:00 AM »
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Day 104

A mix of emotions crowds my thought this morning regarding the recent posts by a couple of dropouts from April 2012. I sit here speechless - right hold the applause
Two separate speeches from two members of the glass of April (albeit not active members) decided to give this site credit for the quit and in the same breath flipped off most everyone on the site. If spite or anger is what drives any decision, history and my experience shows that it will end poorly.

This site is based on brotherhood, accountability and success. The first two are achieved by posting roll on a daily basis and the latter is the culmination or the fruition of the first two. If you decide not to post roll daily, YOU WILL CATCH FLACK. It part of the reprogramming of our habits. Along with the reprogramming, the vets offer up their experience and warn of activities that are best to avoid early in oneÂ’s quit.

In both instances, each of these guys were not willing post regularly or avoid certain activities early in their quit, so they reaped the whirlwind of the vets trying to help these guys adopt new habits to offset nicotine. Feel free to crawl back through the annals of April 2012 and you will plainly see “strongly worded encouragement” being offered. In the end, both of these guys left the site saying the “internet tough guy” role was too much. Guess neither of these guys were ever underclassmen or the “fish” on a sports team.

Being able to separate the emotion and rage of your present circumstances while a vet is “bullying” you is critical. Did I explode? Yes. It might be hard to find but it’s there. Would I have handled it differently now, probably but I am glad that I didn’t put petty emotion in front of my brotherhood.

If you do decide to leave this site, for whatever reason do it with class and dignity.

Above all STAY QUIT!
Very well put!

The bottom line here is everyone came to this site for the HELP! I am not sure why when they get the help they then decide to go all molly pissy pants and take their ball and go home.......

I agree with Cbird in that no matter what stay quit and I also agree that if you are going to leave do so with class.

Just my $.02
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"A QUITTER NEVER HAS TO GO THROUGH THE SUCK AGAIN!" tgafish 6-1-2012

QUIT LIKE FUCK MY BITCHES!!!

PATIENCE LIKE FUCK MY BITCHES!!!

Quit Date: 2-6-2012
HOF Date: 5-16-2012
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Re: Failed to Intro
« Reply #132 on: April 12, 2012, 08:56:00 AM »
Day 104

A mix of emotions crowds my thought this morning regarding the recent posts by a couple of dropouts from April 2012. I sit here speechless - right hold the applause
Two separate speeches from two members of the glass of April (albeit not active members) decided to give this site credit for the quit and in the same breath flipped off most everyone on the site. If spite or anger is what drives any decision, history and my experience shows that it will end poorly.

This site is based on brotherhood, accountability and success. The first two are achieved by posting roll on a daily basis and the latter is the culmination or the fruition of the first two. If you decide not to post roll daily, YOU WILL CATCH FLACK. It part of the reprogramming of our habits. Along with the reprogramming, the vets offer up their experience and warn of activities that are best to avoid early in oneÂ’s quit.

In both instances, each of these guys were not willing post regularly or avoid certain activities early in their quit, so they reaped the whirlwind of the vets trying to help these guys adopt new habits to offset nicotine. Feel free to crawl back through the annals of April 2012 and you will plainly see “strongly worded encouragement” being offered. In the end, both of these guys left the site saying the “internet tough guy” role was too much. Guess neither of these guys were ever underclassmen or the “fish” on a sports team.

Being able to separate the emotion and rage of your present circumstances while a vet is “bullying” you is critical. Did I explode? Yes. It might be hard to find but it’s there. Would I have handled it differently now, probably but I am glad that I didn’t put petty emotion in front of my brotherhood.

If you do decide to leave this site, for whatever reason do it with class and dignity.

Above all STAY QUIT!
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