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[bluebonnetman]

Day 104

A mix of emotions crowds my thought this morning regarding the recent posts by a couple of dropouts from April 2012.  I sit here speechless - right hold the applause
Two separate speeches from two members of the glass of April (albeit not active members) decided to give this site credit for the quit and in the same breath flipped off most everyone on the site.  If spite or anger is what drives any decision, history and my experience shows that it will end poorly. 

This site is based on brotherhood, accountability and success.  The first two are achieved by posting roll on a daily basis and the latter is the culmination or the fruition of the first two.  If you decide not to post roll daily, YOU WILL CATCH FLACK.  It part of the reprogramming of our habits.  Along with the reprogramming, the vets offer up their experience and warn of activities that are best to avoid early in one’s quit.

In both instances, each of these guys were not willing post regularly or avoid certain activities early in their quit,  so they reaped the whirlwind of the vets trying to help these guys adopt new habits to offset nicotine.  Feel free to crawl back through the annals of April 2012 and you will plainly see “strongly worded encouragement” being offered.  In the end, both of these guys left the site saying the “internet tough guy” role was too much.  Guess neither of these guys were ever underclassmen or the “fish” on a sports team. 

Being able to separate the emotion and rage of your present circumstances while a vet is “bullying” you is critical. Did I explode?  Yes.  It might be hard to find but it’s there.  Would I have handled it differently now, probably but I am glad that I didn’t put petty emotion in front of my brotherhood.

If you do decide to leave this site, for whatever reason do it with class and dignity.

Above all STAY QUIT!

Very well put!

The bottom line here is everyone came to this site for the HELP! I am not sure why when they get the help they then decide to go all molly pissy pants and take their ball and go home.......

I agree with Cbird in that no matter what stay quit and I also agree that if you are going to leave do so with class.

Just my $.02

Well put Cbird, and you know I feel exactly the same way. I would like to add one thing though and I'll keep it brief since it's your Intro thread.

This site is littered with stories of quitters who tried once, told everyone to fuck off, then failed, and then came back and accepted the err of their ways. It is also littered with poor souls that told everyone to fuck off, failed, but did not return because of their foolish pride or because of shame. Then you have our two most recent April dropouts. They profess not to need KTC or any of the accountability that it provides, yet they took the time to return and post a BS HOF speech. At least one of them has returned and taken the time to re-engage on the forums under the guise that "he just wanted to piss Coach Steve off because I called him out."

If you ask me, you two ass clowns need KTC and us more than you'd like to admit. Even if it's just the spite that's driving your quits right now. Well....who do you think created those spiteful feelings? That's right, US. As always, I hope you stay quit.

i like this ship but i really don't care for it that a few "quitters" feel it necessary to say they're quit but, as we say in texas, act ugly.
everything about ktc is about support and help and if somebody gets their feathers ruffled it's their shit. defensiveness, irritability, shadow, not dealing with their own stuff.
but then, that's pretty much how everything is - it's just that this community super-charges it.
it's like what they say about being famous; if you're a kind person before you get famous, you'll just be more kind when everyone's watching. if you're a dickhead before you get famous, you'll be the biggest dickhead on earth when you're in the spotlight.
the quit brings out everything that's in there. just more so. and there's a lot that we like to keep in the shadows if we can. especially cuz we're addicts and we don't think straight about our addiction and the issues that go with it.

you think the problem is ktc? it's just a big mirror.

boom.

bluebonnetman

[Coach Steve]

Day 104

A mix of emotions crowds my thought this morning regarding the recent posts by a couple of dropouts from April 2012.  I sit here speechless - right hold the applause
Two separate speeches from two members of the glass of April (albeit not active members) decided to give this site credit for the quit and in the same breath flipped off most everyone on the site.  If spite or anger is what drives any decision, history and my experience shows that it will end poorly. 

This site is based on brotherhood, accountability and success.  The first two are achieved by posting roll on a daily basis and the latter is the culmination or the fruition of the first two.  If you decide not to post roll daily, YOU WILL CATCH FLACK.  It part of the reprogramming of our habits.  Along with the reprogramming, the vets offer up their experience and warn of activities that are best to avoid early in one’s quit.

In both instances, each of these guys were not willing post regularly or avoid certain activities early in their quit,  so they reaped the whirlwind of the vets trying to help these guys adopt new habits to offset nicotine.  Feel free to crawl back through the annals of April 2012 and you will plainly see “strongly worded encouragement” being offered.  In the end, both of these guys left the site saying the “internet tough guy” role was too much.  Guess neither of these guys were ever underclassmen or the “fish” on a sports team. 

Being able to separate the emotion and rage of your present circumstances while a vet is “bullying” you is critical. Did I explode?  Yes.  It might be hard to find but it’s there.  Would I have handled it differently now, probably but I am glad that I didn’t put petty emotion in front of my brotherhood.

If you do decide to leave this site, for whatever reason do it with class and dignity.

Above all STAY QUIT!

Very well put!

The bottom line here is everyone came to this site for the HELP! I am not sure why when they get the help they then decide to go all molly pissy pants and take their ball and go home.......

I agree with Cbird in that no matter what stay quit and I also agree that if you are going to leave do so with class.

Just my $.02

Well put Cbird, and you know I feel exactly the same way. I would like to add one thing though and I'll keep it brief since it's your Intro thread.

This site is littered with stories of quitters who tried once, told everyone to fuck off, then failed, and then came back and accepted the err of their ways. It is also littered with poor souls that told everyone to fuck off, failed, but did not return because of their foolish pride or because of shame. Then you have our two most recent April dropouts. They profess not to need KTC or any of the accountability that it provides, yet they took the time to return and post a BS HOF speech. At least one of them has returned and taken the time to re-engage on the forums under the guise that "he just wanted to piss Coach Steve off because I called him out."

If you ask me, you two ass clowns need KTC and us more than you'd like to admit. Even if it's just the spite that's driving your quits right now. Well....who do you think created those spiteful feelings? That's right, US. As always, I hope you stay quit.

[Grizzly25]

Day 104

A mix of emotions crowds my thought this morning regarding the recent posts by a couple of dropouts from April 2012. I sit here speechless - right hold the applause
Two separate speeches from two members of the glass of April (albeit not active members) decided to give this site credit for the quit and in the same breath flipped off most everyone on the site. If spite or anger is what drives any decision, history and my experience shows that it will end poorly.

This site is based on brotherhood, accountability and success. The first two are achieved by posting roll on a daily basis and the latter is the culmination or the fruition of the first two. If you decide not to post roll daily, YOU WILL CATCH FLACK. It part of the reprogramming of our habits. Along with the reprogramming, the vets offer up their experience and warn of activities that are best to avoid early in oneÂ’s quit.

In both instances, each of these guys were not willing post regularly or avoid certain activities early in their quit, so they reaped the whirlwind of the vets trying to help these guys adopt new habits to offset nicotine. Feel free to crawl back through the annals of April 2012 and you will plainly see “strongly worded encouragement” being offered. In the end, both of these guys left the site saying the “internet tough guy” role was too much. Guess neither of these guys were ever underclassmen or the “fish” on a sports team.

Being able to separate the emotion and rage of your present circumstances while a vet is “bullying” you is critical. Did I explode? Yes. It might be hard to find but it’s there. Would I have handled it differently now, probably but I am glad that I didn’t put petty emotion in front of my brotherhood.

If you do decide to leave this site, for whatever reason do it with class and dignity.

Above all STAY QUIT!

Very well put!

The bottom line here is everyone came to this site for the HELP! I am not sure why when they get the help they then decide to go all molly pissy pants and take their ball and go home.......

I agree with Cbird in that no matter what stay quit and I also agree that if you are going to leave do so with class.

Just my $.02

[cbird65]

Day 104

A mix of emotions crowds my thought this morning regarding the recent posts by a couple of dropouts from April 2012. I sit here speechless - right hold the applause
Two separate speeches from two members of the glass of April (albeit not active members) decided to give this site credit for the quit and in the same breath flipped off most everyone on the site. If spite or anger is what drives any decision, history and my experience shows that it will end poorly.

This site is based on brotherhood, accountability and success. The first two are achieved by posting roll on a daily basis and the latter is the culmination or the fruition of the first two. If you decide not to post roll daily, YOU WILL CATCH FLACK. It part of the reprogramming of our habits. Along with the reprogramming, the vets offer up their experience and warn of activities that are best to avoid early in oneÂ’s quit.

In both instances, each of these guys were not willing post regularly or avoid certain activities early in their quit, so they reaped the whirlwind of the vets trying to help these guys adopt new habits to offset nicotine. Feel free to crawl back through the annals of April 2012 and you will plainly see “strongly worded encouragement” being offered. In the end, both of these guys left the site saying the “internet tough guy” role was too much. Guess neither of these guys were ever underclassmen or the “fish” on a sports team.

Being able to separate the emotion and rage of your present circumstances while a vet is “bullying” you is critical. Did I explode? Yes. It might be hard to find but it’s there. Would I have handled it differently now, probably but I am glad that I didn’t put petty emotion in front of my brotherhood.

If you do decide to leave this site, for whatever reason do it with class and dignity.

Above all STAY QUIT!

[Suck-It]

Day 100-
Today is a very special day indeed, Happy Easter.  Remeber the true meaning of today-  I will and will never forget this one.

Today I am quit with all my amigos, buddies, compatriots, gumbas, home slices, brothas, and pals who have helped, encouraged, challenged or slapped me down in order to get me here!

ItÂ’s my honor to be quit with all of you!

Congrats CBird! Proud to be quit with you.

Congrats Sir. Enjoy the day, You earned it.

Congrats Cbird. You have definitely earned it. Have a great Easter Sunday, enjoy the day, your first Easter in a long, long time without a chew. Continue to lead the way.

[Ready]

Day 100-
Today is a very special day indeed, Happy Easter.  Remeber the true meaning of today-  I will and will never forget this one.

Today I am quit with all my amigos, buddies, compatriots, gumbas, home slices, brothas, and pals who have helped, encouraged, challenged or slapped me down in order to get me here!

ItÂ’s my honor to be quit with all of you!

Congrats CBird! Proud to be quit with you.

Congrats Sir. Enjoy the day, You earned it.

[T-Cell]

Day 100-
Today is a very special day indeed, Happy Easter. Remeber the true meaning of today- I will and will never forget this one.

Today I am quit with all my amigos, buddies, compatriots, gumbas, home slices, brothas, and pals who have helped, encouraged, challenged or slapped me down in order to get me here!

ItÂ’s my honor to be quit with all of you!

Congrats CBird! Proud to be quit with you.

[Grizzly25]

Day 100-
Today is a very special day indeed, Happy Easter. Remeber the true meaning of today- I will and will never forget this one.

Today I am quit with all my amigos, buddies, compatriots, gumbas, home slices, brothas, and pals who have helped, encouraged, challenged or slapped me down in order to get me here!

ItÂ’s my honor to be quit with all of you!

Congrats brother!!!!!

Quit on quiter!!!

[cbird65]

Day 100-
Today is a very special day indeed, Happy Easter. Remeber the true meaning of today- I will and will never forget this one.

Today I am quit with all my amigos, buddies, compatriots, gumbas, home slices, brothas, and pals who have helped, encouraged, challenged or slapped me down in order to get me here!

ItÂ’s my honor to be quit with all of you!

[cbird65]

Day 98
Two observations, actually one with two applications. I know your siting there saying geez, here we go again, doesnÂ’t this guy every come out and say something straight out.
IÂ’ve read some posts recently about HOFerÂ’s experiencing the toughest days of their quit following 100. Maybe the nic bitch decided to take another serious run at them, thinking the celebration time might be her window of opportunity. Maybe it was the simple fact of short-sighted goals. Say what? IÂ’ll explain.
When you started your quit, did you look set HOF as a goal or just a milestone marker? IÂ’m not there yet but itÂ’s a sign post, a marker telling me IÂ’m headed in the right direction. When I hit 100 on Sunday, guess what, itÂ’s another day. When I post on Monday, oh yeah thatÂ’s another day also; albeit 101. I will not be cured at 100 or ever- I will be a recovering addicting battling my poor judgment as my father (love ya Dad!) used to say for the rest of my life.

Second point. Short and sweet- IÂ’m not calling anyone out because I see the value in verbally committing to posting daily till the Second Floor butÂ’s almost identical to the Hall. Yes, it would nice to get to the 2nd Floor, but it will be another day and another sign post reaffirming IÂ’m still on the right road. The ongoing question of will I post roll, Nope sorry, you guys are stuck with me.

I think this thread brings light to Life Past 100

IÂ’ll shuffle off now. Remember the meaning of Sunday

[Ready]

Day 95
In five days I will hit the Hall, yes on Easter Sunday.  This has a very special meaning to me but I must express something else before I forget it.

Yesterday was a interesting day.    Like the 2nd week of my quit, my wife is out of town and I found myself relying on this site to reinforce my quit.  The gheys in April were there as usual but a few had wandered in the neighborhood.  Me, being the designated “watcher” went in search and wound up in the firestorm of a newbie trying to test his wings and I had reflect back oh so long ago and smile.  Preference is trumped by principle every time. 
What are you talking about bird, you ask?  Let me explain. 

I am a believer.  I believe that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was virgin born, lived a sinless life, was crucified and was resurrected three days later.  I believe He was the sacrifice and He alone is is the way the truth and the light and no one shall come to the Father without Him  This my friends is a principle-  it is NOT up for debate.

My choice of church I worship in is a preference.

Long way around the bend to stick with me.  I had to steal something from Loot

” Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.

We require a simple “one day at a time” philosophy. Make roll call, concentrate on today and today only. We’ll work through the troubles of today with you. We’ll worry about tomorrow when it gets here.

Roll call will build accountability with your brothers. You know that the man next to you in line is going through or has dealt with the exact same things you are. Lean on the knowledge of those who have walked that road. Develop relationships with them and especially the guys in your home group. These people will save your life if you let them”.

This is a principle.  You cannot separate the end goal of brotherhood, accountability and success without posting. 

Make an impact today on your group and this site as a whole and strengthen the accountability!

Nice work Cbird.
I agree with your sentiment, this site works because we re-inforce one another. Posting roll is that principle "act" that demonstrates your quit.
I've only been quit for 54 days so far, but it is pretty obvious to me that half the the people who get to this site are not ready to quit, period. So, that being the case, of course it is too difficult to post roll every morning, or to avoid drinking, etc. They simply are not ready to be quit.
Proud to be quit with you, congrats on your approaching HOF....

Cbird - great post. You were the first person to PM me in this quit and I have enjoyed reading all your posts. 5 days til the hall - that is awesome. You have been a great quit brother because in the beginning you have reached out to newbies like me and have lead the way. Keep up the great work. Continue to post and pave the way for the rest of us. Very proud to be quit with you.

Not only a kick ass quitter but a leader as well.

Lead on Sir.

I will quit with you any day.

[Suck-It]

Day 95
In five days I will hit the Hall, yes on Easter Sunday.  This has a very special meaning to me but I must express something else before I forget it.

Yesterday was a interesting day.    Like the 2nd week of my quit, my wife is out of town and I found myself relying on this site to reinforce my quit.  The gheys in April were there as usual but a few had wandered in the neighborhood.  Me, being the designated “watcher” went in search and wound up in the firestorm of a newbie trying to test his wings and I had reflect back oh so long ago and smile.  Preference is trumped by principle every time. 
What are you talking about bird, you ask?  Let me explain. 

I am a believer.  I believe that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was virgin born, lived a sinless life, was crucified and was resurrected three days later.  I believe He was the sacrifice and He alone is is the way the truth and the light and no one shall come to the Father without Him  This my friends is a principle-  it is NOT up for debate.

My choice of church I worship in is a preference.

Long way around the bend to stick with me.  I had to steal something from Loot

” Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.

We require a simple “one day at a time” philosophy. Make roll call, concentrate on today and today only. We’ll work through the troubles of today with you. We’ll worry about tomorrow when it gets here.

Roll call will build accountability with your brothers. You know that the man next to you in line is going through or has dealt with the exact same things you are. Lean on the knowledge of those who have walked that road. Develop relationships with them and especially the guys in your home group. These people will save your life if you let them”.

This is a principle.  You cannot separate the end goal of brotherhood, accountability and success without posting. 

Make an impact today on your group and this site as a whole and strengthen the accountability!

Nice work Cbird.
I agree with your sentiment, this site works because we re-inforce one another. Posting roll is that principle "act" that demonstrates your quit.
I've only been quit for 54 days so far, but it is pretty obvious to me that half the the people who get to this site are not ready to quit, period. So, that being the case, of course it is too difficult to post roll every morning, or to avoid drinking, etc. They simply are not ready to be quit.
Proud to be quit with you, congrats on your approaching HOF....

Cbird - great post. You were the first person to PM me in this quit and I have enjoyed reading all your posts. 5 days til the hall - that is awesome. You have been a great quit brother because in the beginning you have reached out to newbies like me and have lead the way. Keep up the great work. Continue to post and pave the way for the rest of us. Very proud to be quit with you.

[T-Cell]

Day 95
In five days I will hit the Hall, yes on Easter Sunday. This has a very special meaning to me but I must express something else before I forget it.

Yesterday was a interesting day. Like the 2nd week of my quit, my wife is out of town and I found myself relying on this site to reinforce my quit. The gheys in April were there as usual but a few had wandered in the neighborhood. Me, being the designated “watcher” went in search and wound up in the firestorm of a newbie trying to test his wings and I had reflect back oh so long ago and smile. Preference is trumped by principle every time.
What are you talking about bird, you ask? Let me explain.

I am a believer. I believe that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was virgin born, lived a sinless life, was crucified and was resurrected three days later. I believe He was the sacrifice and He alone is is the way the truth and the light and no one shall come to the Father without Him This my friends is a principle- it is NOT up for debate.

My choice of church I worship in is a preference.

Long way around the bend to stick with me. I had to steal something from Loot

” Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.

We require a simple “one day at a time” philosophy. Make roll call, concentrate on today and today only. We’ll work through the troubles of today with you. We’ll worry about tomorrow when it gets here.

Roll call will build accountability with your brothers. You know that the man next to you in line is going through or has dealt with the exact same things you are. Lean on the knowledge of those who have walked that road. Develop relationships with them and especially the guys in your home group. These people will save your life if you let them”.

This is a principle. You cannot separate the end goal of brotherhood, accountability and success without posting.

Make an impact today on your group and this site as a whole and strengthen the accountability!

Nice work Cbird.
I agree with your sentiment, this site works because we re-inforce one another. Posting roll is that principle "act" that demonstrates your quit.
I've only been quit for 54 days so far, but it is pretty obvious to me that half the the people who get to this site are not ready to quit, period. So, that being the case, of course it is too difficult to post roll every morning, or to avoid drinking, etc. They simply are not ready to be quit.
Proud to be quit with you, congrats on your approaching HOF....

[Kdip]

Day 95
In five days I will hit the Hall, yes on Easter Sunday.  This has a very special meaning to me but I must express something else before I forget it.

Yesterday was a interesting day.    Like the 2nd week of my quit, my wife is out of town and I found myself relying on this site to reinforce my quit.  The gheys in April were there as usual but a few had wandered in the neighborhood.  Me, being the designated “watcher” went in search and wound up in the firestorm of a newbie trying to test his wings and I had reflect back oh so long ago and smile.  Preference is trumped by principle every time. 
What are you talking about bird, you ask?  Let me explain. 

I am a believer.  I believe that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was virgin born, lived a sinless life, was crucified and was resurrected three days later.  I believe He was the sacrifice and He alone is is the way the truth and the light and no one shall come to the Father without Him  This my friends is a principle-  it is NOT up for debate.

My choice of church I worship in is a preference.

Long way around the bend to stick with me.  I had to steal something from Loot

” Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.

We require a simple “one day at a time” philosophy. Make roll call, concentrate on today and today only. We’ll work through the troubles of today with you. We’ll worry about tomorrow when it gets here.

Roll call will build accountability with your brothers. You know that the man next to you in line is going through or has dealt with the exact same things you are. Lean on the knowledge of those who have walked that road. Develop relationships with them and especially the guys in your home group. These people will save your life if you let them”.

This is a principle.  You cannot separate the end goal of brotherhood, accountability and success without posting. 

Make an impact today on your group and this site as a whole and strengthen the accountability!

Great powerful stuff Cbird!!

Very inspiring and you are truly an example of what being quit and taking a lead is all about!


I am truly proud to be quit with you and as your about to enter into the Hall of Fame, you should be very proud as well. You should be proud of your commitment, conviction, and your resolve!!!

Keep on keeping on quiter!!

Nice work Bird!! and what a special day to hit the Hall!! I love it when other old farts like me make it to the Hall and beyond and discover a whole new self after being a slave for so long!!! You're doing great and I am proud of you!!! Stick around, help a newbie,and pay it forward.

[Grizzly25]

Day 95
In five days I will hit the Hall, yes on Easter Sunday. This has a very special meaning to me but I must express something else before I forget it.

Yesterday was a interesting day. Like the 2nd week of my quit, my wife is out of town and I found myself relying on this site to reinforce my quit. The gheys in April were there as usual but a few had wandered in the neighborhood. Me, being the designated “watcher” went in search and wound up in the firestorm of a newbie trying to test his wings and I had reflect back oh so long ago and smile. Preference is trumped by principle every time.
What are you talking about bird, you ask? Let me explain.

I am a believer. I believe that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was virgin born, lived a sinless life, was crucified and was resurrected three days later. I believe He was the sacrifice and He alone is is the way the truth and the light and no one shall come to the Father without Him This my friends is a principle- it is NOT up for debate.

My choice of church I worship in is a preference.

Long way around the bend to stick with me. I had to steal something from Loot

” Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.

We require a simple “one day at a time” philosophy. Make roll call, concentrate on today and today only. We’ll work through the troubles of today with you. We’ll worry about tomorrow when it gets here.

Roll call will build accountability with your brothers. You know that the man next to you in line is going through or has dealt with the exact same things you are. Lean on the knowledge of those who have walked that road. Develop relationships with them and especially the guys in your home group. These people will save your life if you let them”.

This is a principle. You cannot separate the end goal of brotherhood, accountability and success without posting.

Make an impact today on your group and this site as a whole and strengthen the accountability!

Great powerful stuff Cbird!!

Very inspiring and you are truly an example of what being quit and taking a lead is all about!


I am truly proud to be quit with you and as your about to enter into the Hall of Fame, you should be very proud as well. You should be proud of your commitment, conviction, and your resolve!!!

Keep on keeping on quiter!!